This Japanese Chord Progression Feels Illegal To Know

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  • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
    @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hello you lovelies! Check out my Math Rock & Midwest emo Guitar Essentials eBook here: bit.ly/4eV2Elp

  • @geoffstockton
    @geoffstockton 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    It's funny how cultures will keep feeding each other's cultures back to one another. Japanese musicians definitely pulled this progression from Motown circa 1970-72. There are a bunch of examples I've found over the years but the first that comes to mind is Ain't No Mountain High Enough, which I especially like because when it goes from the IV chord to the V chord, the IV stays in the bass, creating a super bright extended Lydian chord. I'd also encourage players to experiment with taking the second half of that length of Am7 and using it to set up a secondary IIm7-V7 back to the IVmaj7 chord. (Gm7 C9 or tritone substitute the C9 for Gb7alt).

  • @RegularBeico
    @RegularBeico 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    Final Fantasy VII may be cool, but have you tried Final Fantasy VIIm7b5?

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      😂

    • @swakbutfunny
      @swakbutfunny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😭

    • @alessio_tasco
      @alessio_tasco 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn.

    • @PepperElDev
      @PepperElDev 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That could easily be a new spin-off, seeing how videogames can be when it comes to naming conventions.

  • @mattcarter7973
    @mattcarter7973 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    I’ve been writing riffs based around a particular chord progression for like 3 years trying to break away from it. Your channel has been really inspiring for me to get out of that box 📦 keep up the good work!

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's what I love to hear! The motivation I need to keep making this kind of content. Thanks! 🙌

  • @samuelbanya
    @samuelbanya 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Em7/B, wow what a cool chord.
    Sweet idea for the inversions.

  • @tyeman3039
    @tyeman3039 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude I love the way you present the guitar.

  • @mrbubbies_
    @mrbubbies_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you've both encouraged me to get back to practice and given me a breakthrough in a song ive been writing that's in the same key

  • @NateToker
    @NateToker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video has been wildly helpful for where I'm at on guitar. Learning inversions is opening a whole world of sound for me. Great video!😁

  • @giovannyyreyess
    @giovannyyreyess 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    One of my favorite progressions

  • @fawachaneru
    @fawachaneru 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    the inversion of chords that only used he highest 4 strings are what i call ukulele voicing cuz you play it the same way on that instrument as well, hey maybe someone should do a math rock song on just ukulele!

  • @GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435
    @GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The most staple full chord progression in Japanese music would be either the Koakuma a.k.a. Royal Road or many variations of the Bird Blues. A lot of people seem to default to Koakuma, but I think I prefer the Church-y feel of the Bird Blues variations much more.

  • @michaelc.1710
    @michaelc.1710 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've always wondered what this was. Thank you for such a great and easily understandable breakdown of it. Liked, subscribed and signed up for the newsletter!

  • @nicholas_james
    @nicholas_james 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    To add at the end of the final progression, I first heard a Gm7, that I would start at the 10th fret, but then I reconsidered the words "smooth change", and thought of a Bbmaj7/D starting at the 5th fret and 5th string - D, B♭, D, F, A or frets 5, 8, 7, 6, 5 shaped as a barre chord. That's my take.

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      excellent! Thanks for sharing. I went with a Gm7/D (G minor 7 second inversion). On the guitar it would be: x 5 5 3 6 x

  • @cloudstrife5648
    @cloudstrife5648 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I would go with the Gm9 at that question mark you at the end of the video: 3rd finger on fret 5 of D string. First finger on 3rd fret covering the 4 below strings and finger number 4 on the 5th fret from the first E string.

  • @drifter811
    @drifter811 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I learned so much from this video, especially that I need a jazzmaster

  • @samuelcasale
    @samuelcasale 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What a great lesson!!!

  • @DLK_FOXX
    @DLK_FOXX 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    LUV THE CONTENT ❤💥💥mostly the explanations

  • @SeanFarFlung
    @SeanFarFlung 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting. I will try this out. I would just add though that a proper example would have elevated this lesson a lot. I mean like 30-40 seconds of playing a discrete piece of music without discussion. I hope you'll add this in future lessons, I'll keep an eye on your channel. Peace

  • @JuneIsFinallyHere
    @JuneIsFinallyHere 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A video about how to do riffs like tera melos (in their 2010-2018) would be cool!!!

  • @emmanuelibus
    @emmanuelibus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's my favorite progression.

  • @kudo7821
    @kudo7821 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gotta do a math rock cover of “those who fight further” now

  • @kilgoreplumbus1360
    @kilgoreplumbus1360 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i found this sound by accident by using e minor 7 as a sub for cmaj7, a 2516 or 4516 doing that gives a very similar sound

  • @marcosleonardo4725
    @marcosleonardo4725 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For the last chord I would use a Dm6/11 starting on the G string and it looking like x5546x

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing! If you played this chord x5536x you'll have a Gm7/D (G minor 7 second inversion) and I found this provides smooth voice leading.

  • @joshuaamos8356
    @joshuaamos8356 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    That’s a last dinosaurs type chord progression. My favorite Australian / Japanese band

    • @skyz5961
      @skyz5961 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Reminded me of apollo

    • @LongTim-
      @LongTim- 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Is that a newer band? Last Dinosaur is a popular song by the pillows which is pretty famous J rock band from the 90s

    • @itsScoots
      @itsScoots 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@LongTim-They're a Brisbane, Australia based band that have found success in the last seven years. I wouldnt call them a Japanese band so much as two of their band members are Australian-Japanese. They're very indie rock.

  • @scriprat
    @scriprat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    never gonna give-

  • @swift_footed
    @swift_footed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video! How about japanese songs in minor key what chord progression are they using?

  • @Bulldog-fk4ci
    @Bulldog-fk4ci 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the best end is the Em7 chord but on the 5th fret😎

  • @fawachaneru
    @fawachaneru 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    answer for the question at the end! my personal choice would be a G9 chord because it adds a different flavor instead of the usual G minor chord

  • @BlextheFat
    @BlextheFat 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Intro sounded like Sunny from Frieren

  • @davm9993
    @davm9993 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SHIZUMU YOWO NI TOKETE YUKU YOWO NI

  • @kraig800i
    @kraig800i 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've just paused it at 9:33
    I'm thinking a Cmaj7 on the third fret, don't know if it fits into the scale. Would that be a Maj 2nd? ? ?

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the progression is still the IV - V - iii - vi so the Gm chord is the functional choice. But for the most smooth transition, I was thinking more about voice leading so using the smallest jumps between chords. Following that, I thought a Gm7/D (G minor 7 second inversion) works well. You could play that chord like this: x 5 5 3 6 x

    • @Hesi-m2e
      @Hesi-m2e 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@LetsTalkAboutMathRockI thought of x-10-8-10-8-x which might not be as smooth but has some extra flare

  • @ArielBenichou
    @ArielBenichou 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    IV V iii vii

  • @greyrabbit2157
    @greyrabbit2157 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    fly me to the moon ahh chord progression

  • @peterkelly8357
    @peterkelly8357 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    What is a JRPG?

  • @kilgoreplumbus1360
    @kilgoreplumbus1360 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    G7 to answer the last question, it's basically what you just taught but a tone down

  • @bluecrow48
    @bluecrow48 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gm7

  • @beforever
    @beforever 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Did you goto ACM?

  • @Y0nG0097
    @Y0nG0097 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very nice looking jazzmaster.

  • @shwilly
    @shwilly 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This does have a familiar ring to it. Any J-pop culture connoisseur care to list some examples of series/games, etc. that feature this progression?

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's a ton of examples in this video: th-cam.com/video/6aezSL_GvZA/w-d-xo.html

    • @GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435
      @GuyWhoLikesTheSnarkies1435 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As OP said already, there are just too many examples to pinpoint in all honesty, so it's kind of hard to point out the most striking examples and even the Wiki page for Royal Road has lots of non-Japanese examples from other countries esp. Indonesia (which goes to show you the significance of its popularity).
      That being said, the most memorable use of it for me is the ending theme for the original Boogiepop Phantom anime, "Yūdachi" by Shikao Suga. Outside Japan, I think the Indonesian song "Siapkah Kau 'tuk Jatuh Cinta Lagi" by the pop group Hivi (stylized as H!VI) has some of the tastiest use of the progression within a long progression context.

  • @thebestpiever
    @thebestpiever 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why is it called the royal road progression?

    • @yeetman7880
      @yeetman7880 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mario Kart 🫡

    • @eriiq96
      @eriiq96 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its like a philosophy thing, this is considered the most harmonious hence the name, like "this is the way"

  • @hxcovo9877
    @hxcovo9877 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    sir,what this guitar model?

    • @MrKanti-yy5ux
      @MrKanti-yy5ux 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some kind of Jazzmaster, I think.

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      a partscaster. American Performer body, WD pickguard, pure vintage 65 pickups, and a vintera jazzmaster neck 👍

    • @hxcovo9877
      @hxcovo9877 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LetsTalkAboutMathRock oh,like mjt right?

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @hxcovo9877 nope, from the Stratosphere ebay site 👍 the pickguard is custom made though by WD music

    • @hxcovo9877
      @hxcovo9877 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LetsTalkAboutMathRock thanks a lot

  • @abyssal_ch
    @abyssal_ch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    and this is why all those popular "I wrote a anime riff" videos fall flat to me

  • @overtonesnteatime198
    @overtonesnteatime198 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    why did you change the channel name? weird.

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol didnt even realise i had till you pointed it out! I changed my name in my google account for some verification thingy. Didn’t know it would change it here too!

  • @xenod1066
    @xenod1066 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cruel to be kind?

  • @bonofacii
    @bonofacii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Am I the only one noticing this "midwest emo on crack riff" guitar? It's gorgeous, what's the story behind it?

    • @LetsTalkAboutMathRock
      @LetsTalkAboutMathRock  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's Yvette Young signature guitar. Do a quick search for Ibanez YY20 to find it :)

    • @bonofacii
      @bonofacii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@LetsTalkAboutMathRock yeah, I know it. Just curious how it got into your collection. Is it like mustang + jazzmaster + telecaster body shape?