I am an funeral assistant in Brazil, and a worked a lot in Shot Victims Morgues. These "weak" calibers almost every time perforated at least two vital organs of the victims. This weapons are very dangerous.. In São Paulo i saw in past a Police Man that died when a .22lr revolver shoted in short distnce and crossed an expired bulletproof vest.
Il Cal. 22 LR è micidiale. Al 99% si muore di sicuro. Se non prende organi vitali direttamente, la morte sopraggiunge per emorragia. Anche per i medici è difficile intervenire. Le ferite sono piccole ma devastanti.
@@infjintegrityvsnarcissism7295It depends, I carried a J-frame as a bug in the 80s in Las Vegas but there were guys carrying all kinds of guns. Our Dept let us carry literally any gun we wanted to. They supplied a 9mm S&W but half the guys chose their own guns even a few still carrying revolvers. In a Dept of about 1,100 cops you saw all kinds of bugs; Derringers, .25 autos, old I- frame .32s, you name it, some guy was carrying it. There were Depts that had standard issued carry guns and standard bugs, there were Depts that did not allow bugs at all.
Understanding the mission of a pocket gun, any caliber is really fine. It’s for breaking contact with the enemy, not for taking him into custody. Beretta Bobcat is my choice. Reliable with good ammo, very easy to shoot, safe in the pocket, rugged and small.
People talk caliber, I just got sick of paying double for .380 ammo than 9mm lol, even before the past election .380 was higher than .45. For pocket carry (what I do the most now) I switched to the Diamondback DB9, never looked back. It's uncomfortable and kicks like a .38 snubby, but it's reliable and I can hit man sized targets out to 50 yards with it consistently.
As a retired LEO, my philosophy was if I could use it if disarmed, it could come into play. Or if I could break contact, and back myself into a close range ambush position and wait for the bad guy to blunder into my sights. PS. You aren't far from me. I live in Hendersonville NC.
I carried two Bobcats back in the day when I had to wear a dress shirt and tie for work in corrections. One in 22lr and one in 25acp. No one knew I had them on me. They were never needed but, I had them in case they were needed.
Another good vid Sootch. I really hate the term, "mouse gun". I am pretty sure that no one shot by a mouse gun, would ever call it that. I have a big variety of carry guns, but a new 380 has moved into first place for me. As I have heard Hickok45 say, " a gun is a gun", no matter the caliber. I agree.
@@sootch00 , yes, there are better choices. There are always better choices, but most of those are not always 24/7 carry options. The little gun that is always on you, is the best choice for most people, imo.
@@glennsammon4465 Yup, just ask Eric Royce Leonard, The Thrill Killer. He killed 6 people with a .25 Beretta. 3 one Tuesday night, the other 3 the following Tuesday night.
I bought a Beretta 950 Jetfire and a Glock 19 for $400 total a few years ago at a pawn shop. Definitely the best used gun haul I've had, unfortunately the Taliban has my haul beat 😂
I have one of the Berettas you were holding. Bought it after someone attempted to rob my wife as we left her restaurant late one night and I did not have my full sized sidearm on me. I have carried it everywhere since that night. side note, the perp had a bad night as I was carrying a 1 gallon can of paint home and as he tried to wrestle a deposit bag away from her, I crushed that can over his head. If I had been armed, he would not have walked away.
I have many, including the pre-safety Jetfire, a Bauer 25, Seecamp 32, two NAA revolvers, Kel-Tec P32, the LCP MAX, and a smattering of others. Love these little works of art.
@@cartelplug8183 I don't know.. the Jetfire is pretty good in that it's safe to carry with the hammer lowered on a live round; you thumb-cock it as you draw. Later (American-made) models have a manual safety that allows for "cocked-and-locked" carry. Wasn't the Colt Junior actually made by Astra? I really wanted one for the hammer-fired mechanism, but found the old Jetfire first.
@Warren Brenner I've read that that also makes it easier for a blow to the muzzle (or to the hammer) to cause the hammer to slip the sear and fall. I have not been able to confirm that for certain. Just be cautious. Since you have the BS, you should consider carrying it fully-cocked, with the safety on. Mine is an Italian, made in 1964, and does not have the safety lever. I don't carry mine, but it is in the safe loaded, as I have little use for an unloaded gun. ;-)
@@Just1American1966 The 1/2 cocked is really a 1/4 cocked or less and not enough pressure to ignite the round.I would only carry it cocked and locked if it had a grip safety .I've only been able to find reproduction black plastic grips for it,nothing in a nice wood. Thanks!
Great video. Thank you .brought back some memories. I actually remember my dad taking several Jack Rabbits with the .22 short Astra. I have the Berreta M21 in .22 LR and I love it! God bless all here.
Surprised to see that I own a few of these mouse guns. I have the original LCP, the Pug Mini Revolver and my grandfather left me his Seecamp. A pistol I will never get rid of.
My grandfather was given the Beretta 950 and other small firearm when he was about 8 years old by his father who was like part of the Ministry of the police in Mexico.
Purchased my Jetfire new in the early/mid 90s. I don't currently carry guns but I love this little pistol. My three kings are my Jetfire, S&W 4013 and Ruger Mark 2 Target. I've owned other guns and still own the excellent Glock 19 but those 3 are like vintage cars that I plan to keep for the rest of my life
OK boys.... I will never refer to my "pocket pistols" or "mouse guns" as such ever again! They are now POCKET MONSTERS - thanks Mr. Sootch for the new phase - love it.
My first BUG when I started my LE career was a Beretta 21A in .22LR. Years went by and I sold it to another fellow who refused to listen to my safety briefing. He was a vet, knew "all about these" etc., etc. He was not listening when I warned him about the lack of extractor or ejector. He "cleared" it one night by dropping the mag and racking the slide. He also failed to notice nothing came out of the chamber. He then pulled the trigger and had to fill out an incident report with his agency on why he had a .22 caliber bullet wound through his hand. He called me later and apologized for not listening. He became a much better listener after that. Sometimes we all just need an object lesson. ;)
The LCP Max is the current King of pocket guns imo. A reliable design with up to 13 round capacity in a capable caliber, in a pistol that shoots much softer than you'd think AND has good, usable sights (and tritium at that)....all the size of your palm. You can also get them for about $369 in a lot of places. Put the 99 grain federal hst in it and your attacker is going to need a coroner.
I agree, but if you're going in a pocket, every mm matters and the extra size over the OG LCP or even the LCP2 does make a difference even if the round count is greater with the Max.
@@MrHav1k agreed. While not a use size difference, every mm counts between the sights, etc. personally, I wish they had left the sights off snd stayed with the standard lcp 2 sights. They were much less likely to get hung on your pocket and plenty adequate for a pocket gun
No truer words have been spoken, "Mouse guns can be addictive". For as many as I already cherish, this collection has me wanting a couple more. If you don't think one may be enough... carry another. Great video.
I made a TON of the "Baby Browning" .25 autos under the PSP name for domestic sales and the Browning name for export when I worked for Precision Small Parts in Charlottesville, VA. I can attest to them being excellent pistols. We were told at the time by a visiting State Police representative that it was the preferred backup and undercover pistol for State Police officers due to their small size, capacity, and reliability. Designed by none other than John Browning, it still has a place in this world and is relevant even today. We had one test pistol in the vault that I'd run proof loads through, and even after having logged well over 100 proof loads, it showed NO signs of fatigue and was just as tight and accurate as it was for the first 6 "normal" loads. Great pistols, if you can find one of the original "PSP .25" guns (not the later "PSA .25" guns, which I won't go into).
Seecamp 32 all day. I have 2. Missing is the Keltec 32 which is also excellent. I have 2 of them as well. I might add that a proper pocket or wallet holster is necessary. These guns may be small but they could safe your life.
My 2 EDCs until moving to New Zealand were a P32 spring/summer.and a PF9 fall/winter. Both were light, reliable, easily concealable and consistent. Have never understood why Kel-Tecs get so much distain in the gun community. Never had an issue with either of mine. Probably had 600.00 in both guns with holsters.
My daily carry is the m and p bodyguard .380. Have a +1 magguts, 7+1, and a pinky extension for a full three finger grip. Painted the front sight white for better target acquisition. I load it with either Hornady critical defense or Federal hydrashock. I'll regularly shoot 300+ rounds at the range and it just begs for more. Keep it in a desantis nemesis pocket holster. Not a single hiccup after thousands of rounds.
I have a first issue BG, I never liked the laser so I removved the battery and just forgot it's there. The sights are good for this type of gun, and my BG is quite accurate. The only thing I don't like about it is that it feels like an m-80 going off in my hand. I never understood all the hate being leveled at the trigger. It's not for target shooting, you want a heavier trigger for sd. Plus the trigger stages better than most.
The one problem with the Bodyguard is the mag release wears out from friction with a holster. I had to replace mine 3 times so I stopped carrying it. Not fun when you take your first shot and the mag falls out of the gun. I did finally find a metal mag release button to replace it. I'm very happy now though with my Sig 238. Even more reliable than the S&W Bodyguard.
I was given a titan.25 cal. Had a brushed aluminum slide and light wood grips. If I had known it was going to be so collectable, I wouldn't have sold it to a pawn shop for $20.😅
I'm still happy with my Smith and Wesson M&P Body Guard 380 auto. When it was time to get a mouse gun, I went the Smith and Wesson, since I'm a Smith and Wesson guy. My Bodyguard has at least 500 rounds through it, without any issues.
Love my Seecamp! Wish you'd have shown the wallet size holster. Rides in the back pocket of my Wranglers with zero print. The Beretta Tomcat always stuck out a little and hammer bite was a problem.
Love, love, love you doing a video on this! And you are absolutely right - shooting and collecting these are all about just enjoying firearms. Mouse guns that roar are just plain fun
I inherited a Colt 1908 25 ACP vest pocket from my great grandfather who bought it new in the early 1920's and treasure it. I also have a Taurus PT22 and that is another mouse gun that is a ton of fun to shoot.
My baby browning is so tiny pics and videos don’t make justice on how small it is it looks like a toy I was laughing when I first saw it In hand and happy I got it I would not sell if even if I got offered 1k
I can see why these become so addictive to collect! Back in the 90s when I was a cop I believe it was the Japanese police forces used the Barreta .32 tomcat, which I may have to try to locate one to buy later this summer or fall this year!
I hate tiny guns but I held a new Tomcat at my local gun store a couple weeks ago and was SO tempted to buy it on the spot. It felt really really good in the hand for a tiny gun.
Should have bought it. I had a chance to buy a Jetfire a few years ago, didn't, and have been kicking myself ever since. Go with those temptations! Life is short, treat yourself!
@@SgtRock420 I had just promised my wife I wouldn't buy a gun that day and i've got at least 3 other guns that are significantly higher priority. I rarely make impulse purchases for anything over $200. Someday though.
These are all so innovative and fun. I love the tip-up barrel. Thanks for showing and shooting all of them, because I know you had to clean them all afterwards!
The Colt Junior was made for Colt by Astra until 1968 when it could no longer be imported. Colt started making them themselves and production ran till 1973. The Astra guns are marked made for Colts on the left side of the frame. Astra also produced a small quantity of the Junior in 22 short for Colt
+2 for Keltec P32 or P3AT. Great at the beach in a swim suit or when u need to discreet or BUG . Ruger copied them on the LCP design...that tells u something
I have one and it’s my summer EDC when I wear shorts. Looking to get both a Beretta 950BS in .25 ACP and a Seecamp in .32 ACP. Winter EDC rotates between a Glock 42, a Glock 43, and a Ruger LCR in .357 Magnum.
A mint boxed Astra Cub with paperwork from 1966 will hit GBO next week. Also a mint boxed G17 First gen. with all. And a mint Colt officer. Happy bidding. Thanks for this interesting "mouse "review.
My favorite is the Baby Browning. There is a stainless copy of the Browning that is almost identical. The Berretta tip barrels are really nice. There are some Italian “25’s” that are based on the Walter fixed barrel design that came in prior to 1968 that are dead on accurate. The Galesi is pretty nice. And then there is the Colt vest pocket “25” that is a Browning design.
Are you referencing the Bauwr automatic? I have one and it's great, I've never had a malfunction even though it is not as nicely made as the browning. I also can't avoid getting slide bite sometimes because it is so small, still love it though
When I was a corp refugee in California in 1997, I purchased a new old stock Browning Baby from Gun shop in Van Nauyn for $299.00 plus $32.00 background check with 2 weeks waiting periods. The gun is lovely and I still have it.
Great video Sootch00. Besides my routine 9mm/380 carry, I carry both a NAA 22 mini revolver and a Beretta 21A INOX. I jog early each morning and I always carry the NAA 22 with me while doing so. I also carry the 21A in a pocket holster quite a bit simply because it is so convenient regardless of what I'm wearing. I feel fairly well armed with either of these.
I love mouse guns. I have the Beretta 950BS, Beretta 20, Beretta 21, Browning Baby, PSA 25, Bauer 25, Beretta Tomcat 32, Walther THP 25, Walther #9, Colt Junior, Colt Vest Pocket, Keltec P32, Seecamp 32, NAA Mini Revolvers in 22short, LR and WMR, Colt Mustang, S&W 31, 36, and H&K HK4
My first pistol was a new 950b in 1968, still have & carry. Also have Beretta 71 & Bersa thunder 22. Also have 9mm S&W, 10mm S&W, .40 S&W , .40 Sig, AMT Backup.45, among others, carry ' all, love 'em all! Always wanted a PPK, thinking about it now that I can get it in stainless. Used to have a P-38, I regret selling it. Got my S&W 1006 10mm under my coat right now; big, loud, heavy recoil, all manageable, but it delivers. Also .45 Backup in side picket. Awful recoil, but manageable, and final. Dont laugh at .25s, tho, my dad always said "6 rounds outta one'll make a guy awful sick". His first pistol was a .25 baby Browning, a 21st birthday gift from his dad in 1925. Like to have inherited that!
I had shoulder surgery 3 weeks ago. My dominant right arm is going to be out of commission for the next 8 months. All my rigs are right handed manipulation. I went out and bought the lcp max. I can control it easily with my left hand. Just drop it in my back pocket and go. I will take 11 rounds of 380 any day over nothing, it's all about shot placement anyway.
Had a new Beretta .25 auto yrs ago wished I would have kept it. Only pocket pistol I could actually hit beer cans with & didn't jam up. Sweet little piece. Only payed $50 for it off a co worker.
What about the Beretta Tomcat in .32 ACP? I used to swear by the .22 and .25 ACP Bobcat, but i wanted a same-size pocket pistol with more authority, and I now swear by the Tomcat and love the .32 ACP round. Keep it by the front door, JIC, but for my all-grown-up mousegu , the Ruger LCP II in .380 Auto. Too small a pistol to enjoy shooting the .380 (I understand why you like the .25 and .22 for plinking), but for self-protection, I prefer a .32 or especially a .380. Thanks for a good program
@@LCRider13 Poor quality? The Tomcat? Are we thinking of the same gun? They have excellent fit and finish and are made from good materials. As most Berettas are. Especially the new Inox wide slide.
@@StanwoodSpartans The newer wide slides seem to have mitigated that to a certain extent. Still don’t want to run really hot stuff through them, but people seem to be having very, very few issues with that on the newer guns from what I’ve seen. Interested if you have more info though!
I am glad you said sub 380. 380 used to be considered a mouse caliber, but I don’t think you can consider it as such anymore. It is at least as good as 9 mm was back in the 80s, and it is what I currently carry every day, when I’m not carrying my 38 special. I love my Beretta cheetah, and my Smith and Wesson model 36! The .22mag is no joke, either!
The Beretta 950 Jetfire is my favorite too. I keep mine ready to go and it finds it's way into my pocket or over-night bag fairly often. Mine is a 1964 950B. The "B" model has improved safety (inertial firing pin, I believe) making it safer to carry loaded with the hammer down. The BS model came about after the infamous 1968 Gun Control Act as that safety made it legal for import. Mine, being a 1964 model, lacks that tiny safety but I'd rather thumb back the hammer anyway. One other advantage of the tip-up barrel is for hammer-down carry. If you cock it and decide not to shoot, you can tip up the barrel to manually lower the hammer without risking a whooopsie. ;)
Love my Magnum Research Micro Desert Eagle in 380 ACP Stainless steel. They stopped making them in 2014 but are they nice guns. Also my Beretta Tomcat 32 ACP in Inox with the Super rosewood checkered grips from Altamont. I also have a mint condition Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket mfd in 1910. It's a very, very small pistol.
I own two of these - the NAA Pug in .22WMR, and the LifeCard in .22WMR. I need to add to my collection. Sticky Holsters actually makes a holster for the NAA Pug, and it sits upright in the bottom of your pants pocket.
Thanks for the kind words about the Baby Browning. Mine has the most sentimental value out of all my handguns, since it was purchased by my Grandfather back in 1967 after he was crippled by rheumatoid arthritis, since he didn't want to be helpless against a robber in his small apartment. The .25 round doesn't have much stopping power, but it's not exactly painless either. For its ability to carry in my hip pocket, I take it everywhere I go.
I always wanted one of those little Raven Arms .25 autos. I thought it was such a neat little Pistol, especially for the $69.00 price back in 1986 when I saw one.
@@timallen6035 I liked it a lot when I got it back in 1987. Now, though, when I put it up against the higher-quality guns I've gotten over the decades since, it's clearly an inferior-feeling piece. Still would be good for a knock-around boat or tackle-box gun, though I even have better beaters for those purposes, too.
Once upon a long ago I owned a Beretta Jetfire (950). It was imported long prior to GCA '68. it had no manual or grip safety. I sold due to a severe attack of poverty. Wish I still had it. I enjoy this sort of video as I collect .25 and .32 ACP pistols designed prior to WW2. I have a 'Baby' Browning. i'm looking for an FN 1931, the redesign of the FN1906 .25 ACP designed bt John Browning. it is small, but I have one smaller: the Walther number 4. Tiny.
I carry a "mouse" gun pretty regularly as I don't dress around my CCW and these are so easy to conceal. If you like small revolvers, look into the Charter Arms Undercoverette in .32 H&R magnum. Good punch for the size.
I’m not really a mouse gun guy but I bought my dad a Ruger LCR in .22LR that he loves. He has bad arthritis so he can’t handle the recoil of even a .380acp. Definitely not ideal but 8 CCI mini mags isn’t something to scoff at either. The nice thing about a .22 revolver is that should you have a round that fails to ignite, you just pull the trigger again.
Yes, you' re right for more reliabliabilty over rim fire . Also it was his last design he was working on before he passed away. I've thought about selling mine , I'll pass away too ha. Has loaded chamber indicator, and cocking indicator. A lot in a small pocket pistol 6+1.
Still have my .380 Taurus 738 TCP. Sadly it was kinda replaced by the Taurus Spectrum. Still have hundreds of rounds of .380, and I'm still considering replacing my TCP with another. 380. Thanks for the video to give me ideas!
Kel-tec P32 original model is hard to beat. I have the Beretta 950BS and 21A and NAA Black Widow as well. I disagree on reloading the NAA, with practice it is smooth and relatively fast. Thanks for the review!
@@glennsammon4465 Yeah, the 950 and 21A are neat little pistols. The 21A is a little finicky in 22lr, but improves dramatically with use. I put about 800 rnds through my 21A 22lr before it became reliable with CCIs. I have always wanted a 21 in 25, but cant justify it. I have carried my 950 and trust it. But honestly, I have complete trust in my Kel-Tec original model P-32. I have shot it. and several others extensively. Likewise my Black Widow is a trusted companion.
@@cvr527 I also have the mini revolvers from NAA. one in 22lr with 1.125 inch barrel and one in 22mag, ( black widow with 2' barrel) and I have no problem putting the cylinders in. even thought of buying extra cylinders for them.I always liked the little P32s but never bought one . wondered what recoil would be like out of such a small and light gun chambering 32acp. but thought they were really novel with the 7 round mags for such a small gun. but then I here some had problems. even looked at the NAA guardian 32acp. but never got one .
@@glennsammon4465 The P32 is easy to shoot. The recoil is negligible. I almost bought a Guardian, but the weight and bulk compared to my other mouse guns, deterred me. I want one of the new sidewinders and maybe an Earl, lol.
I am an funeral assistant in Brazil, and a worked a lot in Shot Victims Morgues. These "weak" calibers almost every time perforated at least two vital organs of the victims. This weapons are very dangerous.. In São Paulo i saw in past a Police Man that died when a .22lr revolver shoted in short distnce and crossed an expired bulletproof vest.
RIP 😢
I don't know how I felt about this but I am glad to know the dangers of small guns
Stay in Brazil
@@johnlacass5985 Do you think i need your sheety country ?? I am quite well here..
Il Cal. 22 LR è micidiale. Al 99% si muore di sicuro. Se non prende organi vitali direttamente, la morte sopraggiunge per emorragia. Anche per i medici è difficile intervenire. Le ferite sono piccole ma devastanti.
I love them all. I carried a Bauer 25 acp in a empty cuff case on my belt as a backup when I was a cop many many years ago in North Chicago
I got the Fraser, same gun , new owner of the gun company that made them. still stainless steel and still good.
My buddy just sold his Bauer 25 to a collector, apparently they're very desirable.
I thought all cops carried j frames as BUGs in the “old days”?
@@infjintegrityvsnarcissism7295It depends, I carried a J-frame as a bug in the 80s in Las Vegas but there were guys carrying all kinds of guns. Our Dept let us carry literally any gun we wanted to. They supplied a 9mm S&W but half the guys chose their own guns even a few still carrying revolvers. In a Dept of about 1,100 cops you saw all kinds of bugs; Derringers, .25 autos, old I- frame .32s, you name it, some guy was carrying it. There were Depts that had standard issued carry guns and standard bugs, there were Depts that did not allow bugs at all.
Understanding the mission of a pocket gun, any caliber is really fine. It’s for breaking contact with the enemy, not for taking him into custody. Beretta Bobcat is my choice. Reliable with good ammo, very easy to shoot, safe in the pocket, rugged and small.
People talk caliber, I just got sick of paying double for .380 ammo than 9mm lol, even before the past election .380 was higher than .45. For pocket carry (what I do the most now) I switched to the Diamondback DB9, never looked back. It's uncomfortable and kicks like a .38 snubby, but it's reliable and I can hit man sized targets out to 50 yards with it consistently.
But I have a license to kill. It has my name on it.
As a retired LEO, my philosophy was if I could use it if disarmed, it could come into play. Or if I could break contact, and back myself into a close range ambush position and wait for the bad guy to blunder into my sights.
PS. You aren't far from me. I live in Hendersonville NC.
I carried two Bobcats back in the day when I had to wear a dress shirt and tie for work in corrections. One in 22lr and one in 25acp. No one knew I had them on me. They were never needed but, I had them in case they were needed.
This comment literally will save lives. Sometimes just fighting to get away is more important than fighting to win. Always look at every option
Beretta .22: "It's just so cute." I love it!
Used to own one, it was fun but had problems with feeding ammo... could be the ammo type but i ran it with 3 diff kinds
I have two baby Browning's, and they're my go to. They just fit my hands so nicely.
Another good vid Sootch. I really hate the term, "mouse gun". I am pretty sure that no one shot by a mouse gun, would ever call it that. I have a big variety of carry guns, but a new 380 has moved into first place for me. As I have heard Hickok45 say, " a gun is a gun", no matter the caliber. I agree.
Thanks Brother. These are a lot of fun but yes, shot placement makes these effective, even though there are better choices.
Pocket Monsters is a much better term.
@@sootch00 , yes, there are better choices. There are always better choices, but most of those are not always 24/7 carry options. The little gun that is always on you, is the best choice for most people, imo.
If all guns were equal you'd only need one. 🖖🤷♂️
Amen to that .
A “mouse” gun in the pocket is better than a full sized bullet launcher in the safe.
Damn right.
and they can be just as deadly.
@@glennsammon4465 Yup, just ask Eric Royce Leonard, The Thrill Killer. He killed 6 people with a .25 Beretta. 3 one Tuesday night, the other 3 the following Tuesday night.
@SgtBooker44 Truth !
Mouse Gun 🔫 Every Day Carrier Right Here😁
I bought a Beretta 950 Jetfire and a Glock 19 for $400 total a few years ago at a pawn shop. Definitely the best used gun haul I've had, unfortunately the Taliban has my haul beat 😂
Wow That is an Amazing Deal
Amazingly, the Taliban were not subjected to background checks and a 3-day waiting period either!
@@lancecahill5486 haha luckily no 3 day waiting in OK. The Beretta was actually the pawn shop owner's gun so it was a private transfer.
@@RobotechII You got a sweet deal my friend! 😀
I'm still waiting for m4 surplus. If crazy joe don't want them...
My most effective mouse gun is the Kel-Tec p32. I love mouse gun reviews
I second this and i carry my gen2 p32 daily
I, too, carry my P32 as an EDC. It is with me everywhere except work, because that is a felony in my State.
The 380 version is the same size but its harder to find since its been discontinued
My grandfather passed down his Beretta Minx when he passed, and it’s definitely one of my favorite guns to shoot for fun!
I have one of the Berettas you were holding. Bought it after someone attempted to rob my wife as we left her restaurant late one night and I did not have my full sized sidearm on me. I have carried it everywhere since that night. side note, the perp had a bad night as I was carrying a 1 gallon can of paint home and as he tried to wrestle a deposit bag away from her, I crushed that can over his head. If I had been armed, he would not have walked away.
I had someone tell me one day that the .22 in your pocket is better than the .45 you left at home
Those are sweet. I had a old Colt 25. It was a great pocket gun.
The beretta 950 jetfire would be excellent for concealed carry and a self defense weapon.
Wish I had one.
I have many, including the pre-safety Jetfire, a Bauer 25, Seecamp 32, two NAA revolvers, Kel-Tec P32, the LCP MAX, and a smattering of others. Love these little works of art.
Baby browning top best 25 then colt jr 25
@@cartelplug8183
I don't know.. the Jetfire is pretty good in that it's safe to carry with the hammer lowered on a live round; you thumb-cock it as you draw. Later (American-made) models have a manual safety that allows for "cocked-and-locked" carry.
Wasn't the Colt Junior actually made by Astra? I really wanted one for the hammer-fired mechanism, but found the old Jetfire first.
@@Just1American1966 Hi! When I carry my 950BS it's in 1/2 cocked position to make it easier to thumb cock.
@Warren Brenner
I've read that that also makes it easier for a blow to the muzzle (or to the hammer) to cause the hammer to slip the sear and fall. I have not been able to confirm that for certain. Just be cautious.
Since you have the BS, you should consider carrying it fully-cocked, with the safety on. Mine is an Italian, made in 1964, and does not have the safety lever.
I don't carry mine, but it is in the safe loaded, as I have little use for an unloaded gun. ;-)
@@Just1American1966 The 1/2 cocked is really a 1/4 cocked or less and not enough pressure to ignite the round.I would only carry it cocked and locked if it had a grip safety .I've only been able to find reproduction black plastic grips for it,nothing in a nice wood. Thanks!
Great video. Thank you .brought back some memories. I actually remember my dad taking several Jack Rabbits with the .22 short Astra. I have the Berreta M21 in .22 LR and I love it!
God bless all here.
Surprised to see that I own a few of these mouse guns. I have the original LCP, the Pug Mini Revolver and my grandfather left me his Seecamp. A pistol I will never get rid of.
I carry the NA Arms in 22 magnum as a backup and it is a great little get off me gun.
My grandfather was given the Beretta 950 and other small firearm when he was about 8 years old by his father who was like part of the Ministry of the police in Mexico.
Purchased my Jetfire new in the early/mid 90s. I don't currently carry guns but I love this little pistol. My three kings are my Jetfire, S&W 4013 and Ruger Mark 2 Target. I've owned other guns and still own the excellent Glock 19 but those 3 are like vintage cars that I plan to keep for the rest of my life
I have the Ortgies in 380 and love shooting it. And as you said, it is history in your pocket.
OK boys.... I will never refer to my "pocket pistols" or "mouse guns" as such ever again! They are now POCKET MONSTERS - thanks Mr. Sootch for the new phase - love it.
Pokemon lol
In the hood there called pocket rockets 😂
I'm glad someone finally said it thanks.
Pika-shoot
My first BUG when I started my LE career was a Beretta 21A in .22LR. Years went by and I sold it to another fellow who refused to listen to my safety briefing. He was a vet, knew "all about these" etc., etc. He was not listening when I warned him about the lack of extractor or ejector. He "cleared" it one night by dropping the mag and racking the slide. He also failed to notice nothing came out of the chamber. He then pulled the trigger and had to fill out an incident report with his agency on why he had a .22 caliber bullet wound through his hand. He called me later and apologized for not listening. He became a much better listener after that. Sometimes we all just need an object lesson. ;)
The LCP Max is the current King of pocket guns imo. A reliable design with up to 13 round capacity in a capable caliber, in a pistol that shoots much softer than you'd think AND has good, usable sights (and tritium at that)....all the size of your palm. You can also get them for about $369 in a lot of places.
Put the 99 grain federal hst in it and your attacker is going to need a coroner.
Yup, LCP Max is the new standard, imo. I have the choice of dozens of carry guns, but the LCP Max is my choice these days.
I agree, but if you're going in a pocket, every mm matters and the extra size over the OG LCP or even the LCP2 does make a difference even if the round count is greater with the Max.
I want one so bad. Building my gun money back up
@@MrHav1k agreed. While not a use size difference, every mm counts between the sights, etc. personally, I wish they had left the sights off snd stayed with the standard lcp 2 sights. They were much less likely to get hung on your pocket and plenty adequate for a pocket gun
Just got 1 a week ago and love it! Been carrying the lcp 2 since it came out and didn't think it could get better
No truer words have been spoken, "Mouse guns can be addictive". For as many as I already cherish, this collection has me wanting a couple more. If you don't think one may be enough... carry another. Great video.
I made a TON of the "Baby Browning" .25 autos under the PSP name for domestic sales and the Browning name for export when I worked for Precision Small Parts in Charlottesville, VA. I can attest to them being excellent pistols. We were told at the time by a visiting State Police representative that it was the preferred backup and undercover pistol for State Police officers due to their small size, capacity, and reliability. Designed by none other than John Browning, it still has a place in this world and is relevant even today. We had one test pistol in the vault that I'd run proof loads through, and even after having logged well over 100 proof loads, it showed NO signs of fatigue and was just as tight and accurate as it was for the first 6 "normal" loads. Great pistols, if you can find one of the original "PSP .25" guns (not the later "PSA .25" guns, which I won't go into).
My wife has a cool little Raven Arms 25 ACP. Surprisingly we've been able to find ammo for it.
Never had any trouble finding.25 ACP but it costs as mich as 9mm if not more. Love my Beretta 950b.
Seecamp 32 all day. I have 2. Missing is the Keltec 32 which is also excellent. I have 2 of them as well. I might add that a proper pocket or wallet holster is necessary. These guns may be small but they could safe your life.
Keltec 32 here. I like how small and light it is. Easier on my arthritis than a .380 too.
My 2 EDCs until moving to New Zealand were a P32 spring/summer.and a PF9 fall/winter. Both were light, reliable, easily concealable and consistent. Have never understood why Kel-Tecs get so much distain in the gun community. Never had an issue with either of mine. Probably had 600.00 in both guns with holsters.
I love how Beretta re-introduce the 21-A with a threaded barrel to use as a suppressor host
My daily carry is the m and p bodyguard .380. Have a +1 magguts, 7+1, and a pinky extension for a full three finger grip. Painted the front sight white for better target acquisition. I load it with either Hornady critical defense or Federal hydrashock. I'll regularly shoot 300+ rounds at the range and it just begs for more. Keep it in a desantis nemesis pocket holster. Not a single hiccup after thousands of rounds.
The perfect carry gun, is the one that is always there. It sounds like the 380 Bodyguard is just right for you. No one can argue with that.
My first carry handgun was a m&p shield 9mm and the bodyguard almost went home with me instead .
I also am a bodyguard carrier. The one w the laser embedded. Also love the beretta jetfire bs. My 1st gun.
I have a first issue BG, I never liked the laser so I removved the battery and just forgot it's there. The sights are good for this type of gun, and my BG is quite accurate. The only thing I don't like about it is that it feels like an m-80 going off in my hand. I never understood all the hate being leveled at the trigger. It's not for target shooting, you want a heavier trigger for sd. Plus the trigger stages better than most.
The one problem with the Bodyguard is the mag release wears out from friction with a holster. I had to replace mine 3 times so I stopped carrying it. Not fun when you take your first shot and the mag falls out of the gun. I did finally find a metal mag release button to replace it. I'm very happy now though with my Sig 238. Even more reliable than the S&W Bodyguard.
Thanks buddy for the video. I got my Mother in laws Colt 25 that she carried back in the day. She fended off two attackers with it.
Just bought an old German Walther 25 at a pawn shop. Very fun little gun
I still have one of the old Titans in the 25 ACP. Definitely a reliable pocket pistol or mouse gun.
Give me that titan lol
I was given a titan.25 cal. Had a brushed aluminum slide and light wood grips.
If I had known it was going to be so collectable, I wouldn't have sold it to a pawn shop for $20.😅
I'm still happy with my Smith and Wesson M&P Body Guard 380 auto. When it was time to get a mouse gun, I went the Smith and Wesson, since I'm a Smith and Wesson guy. My Bodyguard has at least 500 rounds through it, without any issues.
Love my Seecamp! Wish you'd have shown the wallet size holster. Rides in the back pocket of my Wranglers with zero print. The Beretta Tomcat always stuck out a little and hammer bite was a problem.
Same here
Mine is my daily carry. .32 is pleasant to shoot, the .380 is reportedly kinda nasty.
My .380 is great. Not as bad as a LCP in .380.
380 isnt nasty imo.
Awesome video Sootch, been waiting for another mouse gun vid. A top 10 was definitely worth the wait..👍🇺🇸
Love, love, love you doing a video on this! And you are absolutely right - shooting and collecting these are all about just enjoying firearms. Mouse guns that roar are just plain fun
I have a Tanfoglio giuseppe 25acp. Also called the Saturday night special, it's an awesome little gun.
I have one 2 is it a gt27
I inherited a Colt 1908 25 ACP vest pocket from my great grandfather who bought it new in the early 1920's and treasure it. I also have a Taurus PT22 and that is another mouse gun that is a ton of fun to shoot.
Coolest pocket pistol story on this list of comments so far for sure.
I have a Model 20 Beretta. Minty condition. Fairly rare. Love it.
Mouse guns are SO COOL to collect. Love my Beretta 950, but also the Baby Browning. Oh yeah…Let’s not forget my Seecamp in .32. So addictive. 😂
Got some cool stuff there, for sure!
My baby browning is so tiny pics and videos don’t make justice on how small it is it looks like a toy I was laughing when I first saw it In hand and happy I got it I would not sell if even if I got offered 1k
I can see why these become so addictive to collect! Back in the 90s when I was a cop I believe it was the Japanese police forces used the Barreta .32 tomcat, which I may have to try to locate one to buy later this summer or fall this year!
I hate tiny guns but I held a new Tomcat at my local gun store a couple weeks ago and was SO tempted to buy it on the spot. It felt really really good in the hand for a tiny gun.
Should have bought it. I had a chance to buy a Jetfire a few years ago, didn't, and have been kicking myself ever since. Go with those temptations! Life is short, treat yourself!
Tomcat can only handle up to 140 ft lbs of energy.
Lot of frame cracks with the tomcat
@@SgtRock420 I had just promised my wife I wouldn't buy a gun that day and i've got at least 3 other guns that are significantly higher priority. I rarely make impulse purchases for anything over $200. Someday though.
I absolutely love my LCP II in .380. Picked it up from Palmetto for like $199, it's a great shooter for it's size.
These are all so innovative and fun. I love the tip-up barrel. Thanks for showing and shooting all of them, because I know you had to clean them all afterwards!
The Colt Junior was made for Colt by Astra until 1968 when it could no longer be imported. Colt started making them themselves and production ran till 1973. The Astra guns are marked made for Colts on the left side of the frame. Astra also produced a small quantity of the Junior in 22 short for Colt
I’ve got a Beretta 950 BS. Love it. The flip up barrel caught my attention. It is small, but deceiving.
I love the 950 wish I had it I have the 2 mean cats the bobcat and tomcat 😂
Honorable mention.....the Beretta Tomcat. 32ACP
Love my Beretta Tomcat. Small enough to easily conceal at work (or just t-shirt weather) but still a valid threat deterrent.
Great topic. The Keltec P32 is another favorite still in production and very light and reliable.
+2 for Keltec P32 or P3AT. Great at the beach in a swim suit or when u need to discreet or BUG . Ruger copied them on the LCP design...that tells u something
@@jasonvelasquez6673 I need one
Every time I look at or handle mine, I'm still impressed with what was accomplished with this design, and I've had it ten year.
I have one and it’s my summer EDC when I wear shorts. Looking to get both a Beretta 950BS in .25 ACP and a Seecamp in .32 ACP. Winter EDC rotates between a Glock 42, a Glock 43, and a Ruger LCR in .357 Magnum.
I would love to see what a Jerry Miculek-type could do with that Seecamp with no sights
Yes. Let’s comment on his channel as a request
A blast from the past video. Awesome to see the guns that were beautiful and ran excellent. Thanks.
Carry my little Walther TPH .22LR everyday as a B/U EDC. Love it.
I’d gladly pick up a Beretta .32 pistol…except the ammo is ridiculously expensive
one box dose it with those guns a just in case.
A mint boxed Astra Cub with paperwork from 1966 will hit GBO next week. Also a mint boxed G17 First gen. with all. And a mint Colt officer. Happy bidding. Thanks for this interesting "mouse "review.
My favorite is the Baby Browning. There is a stainless copy of the Browning that is almost identical. The Berretta tip barrels are really nice. There are some Italian “25’s” that are based on the Walter fixed barrel design that came in prior to 1968 that are dead on accurate. The Galesi is pretty nice. And then there is the Colt vest pocket “25” that is a Browning design.
Are you referencing the Bauwr automatic? I have one and it's great, I've never had a malfunction even though it is not as nicely made as the browning. I also can't avoid getting slide bite sometimes because it is so small, still love it though
When I was a corp refugee in California in 1997, I purchased a new old stock Browning Baby from Gun shop in Van Nauyn for $299.00 plus $32.00 background check with 2 weeks waiting periods. The gun is lovely and I still have it.
Went to the gun store to purchase a mouse gun 22 lr, came home with a taurus tx22, no regrets, lots of fun.
Very good choice WW.
Great video Sootch00. Besides my routine 9mm/380 carry, I carry both a NAA 22 mini revolver and a Beretta 21A INOX. I jog early each morning and I always carry the NAA 22 with me while doing so. I also carry the 21A in a pocket holster quite a bit simply because it is so convenient regardless of what I'm wearing. I feel fairly well armed with either of these.
With this day and age you have too
I carried a Beretta .25 in my boot as a back up in uniform for years. I sold in when I retired (mistake) in ‘97 & carry a post 2013 LCP or 340PD now.
I love mouse guns. I have the Beretta 950BS, Beretta 20, Beretta 21, Browning Baby, PSA 25, Bauer 25, Beretta Tomcat 32, Walther THP 25, Walther #9, Colt Junior, Colt Vest Pocket, Keltec P32, Seecamp 32, NAA Mini Revolvers in 22short, LR and WMR, Colt Mustang, S&W 31, 36, and H&K HK4
GEEZE!!! I thought I spent money :-0. Got a Saint Victor 5.56 last weekend. All these lil things, I'd hurt myself..
@@semlohde1 That is 27 years of collecting and sadly inheriting. Those are just off the top of my head.
@@semlohde1 The Saint Victor is nice
Sweet collection!
@@SgtRock420 Thank You
I have the Ruger and Tomcat in SS. Love them.
My first pistol was a new 950b in 1968, still have & carry. Also have Beretta 71 & Bersa thunder 22. Also have 9mm S&W, 10mm S&W, .40 S&W , .40 Sig, AMT Backup.45, among others, carry ' all, love 'em all! Always wanted a PPK, thinking about it now that I can get it in stainless. Used to have a P-38, I regret selling it. Got my S&W 1006 10mm under my coat right now; big, loud, heavy recoil, all manageable, but it delivers. Also .45 Backup in side picket. Awful recoil, but manageable, and final. Dont laugh at .25s, tho, my dad always said "6 rounds outta one'll make a guy awful sick". His first pistol was a .25 baby Browning, a 21st birthday gift from his dad in 1925. Like to have inherited that!
My Beretta 950 in .25 is my Favorite pocket mouse gun
Yeah, it's a great little pistol Thanks Bill
I want that one so it can be next to my bobcat and tomcat and my baby browning
I have one of the first generation Keltec 3at's. It's been very reliable. Lightweight. 👍
I have a Beretta Tomcat in the .32 ACP caliber and it's fun! I have recently acquired a Ruger LCP Max, and is my new favorite small pistol!
My Philosophy is theyre meant to be shot one-handed. I never train with two hands on my mouse gun.
I had shoulder surgery 3 weeks ago. My dominant right arm is going to be out of commission for the next 8 months. All my rigs are right handed manipulation. I went out and bought the lcp max. I can control it easily with my left hand. Just drop it in my back pocket and go. I will take 11 rounds of 380 any day over nothing, it's all about shot placement anyway.
Thats not a bad approach to these small guns at all. I think your right there really are made for one hand operation in mind
I bought a little Colt Jr, OD prefix on the serial number, made in 1971 by Colt in Florida from parts made by European partners.
Had a new Beretta .25 auto yrs ago wished I would have kept it. Only pocket pistol I could actually hit beer cans with & didn't jam up. Sweet little piece. Only payed $50 for it off a co worker.
What about the Beretta Tomcat in .32 ACP? I used to swear by the .22 and .25 ACP Bobcat, but i wanted a same-size pocket pistol with more authority, and I now swear by the Tomcat and love the .32 ACP round. Keep it by the front door, JIC, but for my all-grown-up mousegu , the Ruger LCP II in .380 Auto. Too small a pistol to enjoy shooting the .380 (I understand why you like the .25 and .22 for plinking), but for self-protection, I prefer a .32 or especially a .380. Thanks for a good program
Tomcats are some nice guns escpecially the new model varieties
Frame cracking issues limit your Ft Lb when it comes to ammo
@LIFE RIPS I’m going to go ahead and say definitively that zero humans can pocket carry a 365 without massive printing.
@@LCRider13 Poor quality? The Tomcat? Are we thinking of the same gun? They have excellent fit and finish and are made from good materials. As most Berettas are. Especially the new Inox wide slide.
@@StanwoodSpartans The newer wide slides seem to have mitigated that to a certain extent. Still don’t want to run really hot stuff through them, but people seem to be having very, very few issues with that on the newer guns from what I’ve seen. Interested if you have more info though!
Love these little guys!
I love videos like this...nice job!
Love a good pocket pistol, my favorite in my collection is my I-frame S&W Terrier in .38 S&W
I am glad you said sub 380. 380 used to be considered a mouse caliber, but I don’t think you can consider it as such anymore. It is at least as good as 9 mm was back in the 80s, and it is what I currently carry every day, when I’m not carrying my 38 special. I love my Beretta cheetah, and my Smith and Wesson model 36!
The .22mag is no joke, either!
My Ruger .380 is a hand cannon . Great shooting little gun
The Beretta 950 Jetfire is my favorite too. I keep mine ready to go and it finds it's way into my pocket or over-night bag fairly often. Mine is a 1964 950B. The "B" model has improved safety (inertial firing pin, I believe) making it safer to carry loaded with the hammer down. The BS model came about after the infamous 1968 Gun Control Act as that safety made it legal for import. Mine, being a 1964 model, lacks that tiny safety but I'd rather thumb back the hammer anyway.
One other advantage of the tip-up barrel is for hammer-down carry. If you cock it and decide not to shoot, you can tip up the barrel to manually lower the hammer without risking a whooopsie. ;)
Love my Magnum Research Micro Desert Eagle in 380 ACP Stainless steel. They stopped making them in 2014 but are they nice guns. Also my Beretta Tomcat 32 ACP in Inox with the Super rosewood checkered grips from Altamont.
I also have a mint condition Colt Model 1908 Vest Pocket mfd in 1910. It's a very, very small pistol.
I own two of these - the NAA Pug in .22WMR, and the LifeCard in .22WMR. I need to add to my collection. Sticky Holsters actually makes a holster for the NAA Pug, and it sits upright in the bottom of your pants pocket.
Pocket Monsters? Well looks like I gotta catch em all!
The beretta is nice. Thanks for another great video
Beretta 950 Bs
Jet Fire
Beretta Model 21a
Bobcat
Baby Browning
Ruger Lcp 2
Ruger Lcp 22
Smith Wesson 351c Airweight
22 Magmum
Colt Jr.
Love my bobcat always carry it in the pocket
Don, why haven’t you ever reviewed the Hi Point C9? Considered the best of the “cheap” handguns.
Love the mouse gun collection and these videos about them
WOW ! I didn't know that Small, Little, Tiny pistols were available. Which come with the Most, Uniquest Assessaries?
I ordered a 21a Bobcat Covert a few days ago, this video was meant for me, I can't wait to get it and thread can on it
Love your videos! Some of the best reviews out there!
Kel-tec P32 is my fav micro from my bunch. 6oz. $225.00.
Thanks for the kind words about the Baby Browning. Mine has the most sentimental value out of all my handguns, since it was purchased by my Grandfather back in 1967 after he was crippled by rheumatoid arthritis, since he didn't want to be helpless against a robber in his small apartment. The .25 round doesn't have much stopping power, but it's not exactly painless either. For its ability to carry in my hip pocket, I take it everywhere I go.
I always wanted one of those little Raven Arms .25 autos. I thought it was such a neat little Pistol, especially for the $69.00 price back in 1986 when I saw one.
If you mention the Raven, then you gotta mention the Jennings J22, too. ;-)
@@Just1American1966 yeah, that one was another cool little pistol. It just happens to be one that I never wanted.
@@timallen6035
I liked it a lot when I got it back in 1987. Now, though, when I put it up against the higher-quality guns I've gotten over the decades since, it's clearly an inferior-feeling piece. Still would be good for a knock-around boat or tackle-box gun, though I even have better beaters for those purposes, too.
Once upon a long ago I owned a Beretta Jetfire (950). It was imported long prior to GCA '68. it had no manual or grip safety. I sold due to a severe attack of poverty. Wish I still had it.
I enjoy this sort of video as I collect .25 and .32 ACP pistols designed prior to WW2.
I have a 'Baby' Browning. i'm looking for an FN 1931, the redesign of the FN1906 .25 ACP designed bt John Browning. it is small, but I have one smaller: the Walther number 4. Tiny.
I carry a "mouse" gun pretty regularly as I don't dress around my CCW and these are so easy to conceal. If you like small revolvers, look into the Charter Arms Undercoverette in .32 H&R magnum. Good punch for the size.
O yeah I carry that charter arms 32 mag in a iwb holster and a kel tec p32 in my pocket
Love the channel ... I collect these little pistons too ... thanks for putting all the time it takes to make these vids
Kel Tec p32
I’m not really a mouse gun guy but I bought my dad a Ruger LCR in .22LR that he loves. He has bad arthritis so he can’t handle the recoil of even a .380acp. Definitely not ideal but 8 CCI mini mags isn’t something to scoff at either. The nice thing about a .22 revolver is that should you have a round that fails to ignite, you just pull the trigger again.
I too have arthritis and can't handle the small .380s well. I have a Keltec p32 that I find much easier to handle. Might want to give one a try.
One reason JMB designed the .25ACP was the challenge of making the smallest centerfire cartridge possible with a standard pistol primer.
Yes, you' re right for more reliabliabilty over rim fire .
Also it was his last design he was working on before he passed away. I've thought about selling mine , I'll pass away too ha.
Has loaded chamber indicator, and cocking indicator.
A lot in a small pocket pistol 6+1.
Love that you caught the brass
Still have my .380 Taurus 738 TCP. Sadly it was kinda replaced by the Taurus Spectrum. Still have hundreds of rounds of .380, and I'm still considering replacing my TCP with another. 380. Thanks for the video to give me ideas!
Thanks for watching Brother!
Merci pour le partage, effectivement les petits pistolets et petits révolvers sont un excellent choix à avoir sur soi en permanence.
Kel-tec P32 original model is hard to beat. I have the Beretta 950BS and 21A and NAA Black Widow as well. I disagree on reloading the NAA, with practice it is smooth and relatively fast.
Thanks for the review!
I have a M950 and I love it. but I also want 2 M21s , one in each caliber.
@@glennsammon4465 Yeah, the 950 and 21A are neat little pistols. The 21A is a little finicky in 22lr, but improves dramatically with use. I put about 800 rnds through my 21A 22lr before it became reliable with CCIs. I have always wanted a 21 in 25, but cant justify it.
I have carried my 950 and trust it. But honestly, I have complete trust in my Kel-Tec original model P-32. I have shot it. and several others extensively. Likewise my Black Widow is a trusted companion.
@@cvr527 I also have the mini revolvers from NAA. one in 22lr with 1.125 inch barrel and one in 22mag, ( black widow with 2' barrel) and I have no problem putting the cylinders in. even thought of buying extra cylinders for them.I always liked the little P32s but never bought one . wondered what recoil would be like out of such a small and light gun chambering 32acp. but thought they were really novel with the 7 round mags for such a small gun. but then I here some had problems. even looked at the NAA guardian 32acp. but never got one .
@@glennsammon4465 The P32 is easy to shoot. The recoil is negligible. I almost bought a Guardian, but the weight and bulk compared to my other mouse guns, deterred me.
I want one of the new sidewinders and maybe an Earl, lol.
@@cvr527 I want the Ranger
My bobcat 22 long rifle loves Remington yellow jacket in viper conical shaped bullets.. never a stoppage with the yellow jackets and vipers
I have the Beretta Tomcat 32 ACP, then I went and bought the Beretta 81 cheetah in 32 ACP