Time for a BIG Rig! DRILLING the CENTRAL CORE! - Vanilla SPACE ENGINEERS Gameplay - Survival - Ep 9

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  • @SkyeStorme
    @SkyeStorme  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    FULL SERIES PLAYLIST ► bit.ly/3ZoLirk

    • @Kaboom-0623
      @Kaboom-0623 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      you could have put 4 drills pointing up on 2 opposite arms and as the drill rotates it also carves the ceiling out as it expands ... dig a 10m hole UNDER the rotor ... yes hook the conveyor up down there to the rotor and then a piston on top IF you do 4 arms with one drill each pointing out and 3 pointing up attached to one side going towards the center of the rig then you not only drill the sides but drill up ...
      best drill speed is 0.1 ... on pistons and 1 to 1.5 rotation on the rotor ... further a bit of of screen upkeep ... move you conveyor lines into the floor hook up the connectors in the maintenance bay pop a door in the maintenance bay back wall and DIG out space for as many large containers as will fit along your tunnel use conveyor Sorters to split the stone into one side and the parts made into the other ... you may only need 1 or 2 large bins for parts so if you have 10 bins 8 for stone 2 for bits n pieces
      although you are NOT playing with the encounters mod most seasoned players do ... consider base defense as well .. the wind turbines out front look like people choppers so keep em ... you could even add a bathroom into the storage bin room for engineer convenience

    • @mr-steve-kuling
      @mr-steve-kuling 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Press T to turn off autorotate blocks. You complained about cargo container was placed wrong and that was probably caused by autorotation. You see a icon for it on the bottom of your screen

  • @zeek5589
    @zeek5589 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    perfect timing. I get bored, open TH-cam and there's a brand new Skye video. Today's a good day.

  • @IraRomfh
    @IraRomfh 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Skye I have to say you really must respect a person that only makes the videos they want to make. The joy in you voice while you are recording these is precious. I have exactly 0 desire to play this game but I can’t wait until your next episode.

  • @jlivewell
    @jlivewell 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    I’m sorry that I have to register this complaint…here goes……. These videos are too short and posted only daily…. I want to watch hours and hours of these all the time…. Your creativity is so fun and great. Thx.. 😊

    • @mutho7024
      @mutho7024 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      +1

    • @barongerhardt
      @barongerhardt 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      A twenty four hour vod posted twice a day would be perfect.

    • @mutho7024
      @mutho7024 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@barongerhardt perfect, I watch watch most stuff with 2x speed already, 48h a day would fit nicely

  • @bonden7
    @bonden7 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    Niice! A treat when i come home tonight 🎉
    Hang out with Sky before sleep 😊

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Grats on first ;)

  • @tylerhallon5007
    @tylerhallon5007 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Since you asked, the best way to turn it off would be: first the pistons, then the rotor, and then the drills after the momentum has stopped.
    That way, if the momentum swings the drills against some material, the drills will still go through it because they're last to turn off..
    Turning on should be: drills first, then rotor, then pistons.

    • @CornDogShaun
      @CornDogShaun 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Braking torque on the rotor, but yes on your order

  • @lyranidis
    @lyranidis 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I love how much fun he has to do that kind of stuff :D

  • @marcgarrett4401
    @marcgarrett4401 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Suggestion: make use of an event controller to turn off the drill system when your containers are near full. They can turn them on again once the stone is processed.

  • @xLONER18x
    @xLONER18x 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Being able to build with large and small grids at the same time is the greatest thing ever! If I can have a Light, a railed platform, and a Window on the same block I'll pre-order and pay 70 bucks and buy every DLC! (I've already done this with Space Engineers) Keen deserves it!

  • @-yttrium-1187
    @-yttrium-1187 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    If you really want to consume all the stone you're producing you could use speed modules on a refinery dedicated to stone.

    • @ancapftw9113
      @ancapftw9113 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      About to post this. Just use a sorter to feed all of the stone to one bank of refineries and a different sorter to send the others to one with efficiency modules.

  • @johnnimalm6844
    @johnnimalm6844 10 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    In the button of the toolbar there are a symbol of a block with 2 arrows and a (T) under it 😊 push T so the symbol is not highlighted anymore, then when you build the blocks don’t keep turning 🎉🎉

  • @MatheusGanzo1
    @MatheusGanzo1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Noice. You can build the storage in the floor (under or as it).

  • @mutho7024
    @mutho7024 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thank you sky. I had a ruff day and your Timberborn and Space Engineer videos are the little light I missed in these stressfull times

  • @budwilliams7908
    @budwilliams7908 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    In your save games options when you load the game, you can turn on "in-game scripts" and with that i qould suggest downloading "Izy's Inventory manager" you will thank me lol
    5:53 QoL tip for building rigs...if you build the drill that connects to the conveyor system first you can use the conveyor ports on the drill to pull materials from instead of having to run to a nearby cargo container
    15:05 if you increase the braking torque of the rotor your rotor will stop instead of freewheeling

  • @travistharp4215
    @travistharp4215 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You should always turn on the drills first when it’s that compact so it can save it self it won’t get hung up and snap off

  • @danmatthews1281
    @danmatthews1281 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is s a treat, was expecting a few days before next vid! appreciate your hard work!

  • @samtrenchard1246
    @samtrenchard1246 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this series from you, keep up the good work.

  • @wofulmickymomo
    @wofulmickymomo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks again!
    Getting in to space engineers just in time for the sequel to be announced!
    😅
    16:41 Also theres a setting to keep block orientation from auto flipping around.

  • @Canoby
    @Canoby 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I tend to build in odd numbers to avoid the issue you had w having to have an off set rotor etc.

  • @Ben-wi4ww
    @Ben-wi4ww 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dear sky, my suggestions are as follows, dump the gravel out of your storage hook your drill ship up inside the hanger to the connectors that you already have placed and create a welding ship, even though some will argue it’s faster to do it by hand, I find once you have all the blocks place that you want to build you can load your welding ship with all the components and sit there and weld without having to fly back-and-forth to pick up components when they’re loaded into your ship, so it kind of evens out. But I find it’s a good excuse to build another ship.😅

  • @ericwemmer402
    @ericwemmer402 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I find myself getting excited with 33MN set on the rotor and so many pistons and drills to crash into the cave walls. Getting the .

  • @TheAlethian
    @TheAlethian 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    For the blocks being flipped automatically hit t, it'll make the blocks keep the same orientation as your placing

  • @laggytim
    @laggytim 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm not sure if I have the time or energy to play SE but enjoying watching this series

  • @FanfictionEnjoyer
    @FanfictionEnjoyer 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Have you noticed that your power system on the front of the base looks like drills? So your base looks like some kind of baby driller flying in like baby crocodiles safely nestled in their mother's mouth. It's almost adorable in a mechanical way.

  • @DragonLoon
    @DragonLoon 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    you should add a drill on the top and bottom of each drill stack so that you are drilling at the same level as the floor and roof of what you already drilled. It looks like you have more than enough space for them

  • @puddlejumper6999
    @puddlejumper6999 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    hey skye, when you are having trouble building bigger parts and cant see enough of the BP then you can CTRL+scroll to adjust the projection and set point farther, then you can stand back further and see the whole of the BP

  • @fredpryde8555
    @fredpryde8555 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    that circle drill is awesome great job i having same problem so much stone and i need to keep increasing storage for ores ingots components

  • @chadp6307
    @chadp6307 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Stone is so plentiful, you're slightly wasting yield modules on it. Perhaps do 3 speed and 1 power saving module per refinery, as the speed boost will put a strain on your power grid.
    Yield modules give you the best 'bang-for-the-buck' with the more rare ores (gold, platinum, uranium), and you can set a dedicated high-yield refinery to refine them by using sorters.

  • @HeilTec
    @HeilTec 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    17:00 . . . have to turn them every time . . .
    Press T to toggle auto rotate.

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I turned it off .. must have got turned on again my accident :)

  • @sawyeriii
    @sawyeriii 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Maybe add some upwards facing drills on each arm back to the center to smooth out and raise the roof when you put in the 3rd piston on each arm?

  • @lindsaybruce1396
    @lindsaybruce1396 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Regarding rotational speed, for a rig this size I would run the rotor very slowly so as the pistons extend the drills don't get overloaded and start banging into the walls. For your setup I'd probably run the rotor at 0.2 rpm and drop to 0.1 rpm as the pistons get closer to 10m. Worth running the drills until they no longer collect stone as that will give you the smoothest tunnel walls which not only looks nice, but will minimise impact on your save file (voxel data is notoriously large, so the cleaner the surface the better in terms of save data).
    Also worth looking at the Drill and Fill mod which can cut perfect tunnels and rooms with flat surfaces.

  • @rodentnolastname6612
    @rodentnolastname6612 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I highly recommend shutting down pistons, rotor THEN drills.reverse for startup

  • @kholdanstaalstorm6881
    @kholdanstaalstorm6881 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Add in some large grid welders and a projector, then this would only need to have room in storage and refineries.

  • @Wildtails1
    @Wildtails1 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You may know already but if you hold ctrl and mmb a storage instead of just mmb, it'll pull enough to make 10 of what youve got in the planner (or as you can hold) and doesn't remove the item from the planner, useful when making lots of conveyors

  • @travistharp4215
    @travistharp4215 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’d be patient with the first run and let it do its thing and see it run

  • @nexious4568
    @nexious4568 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you press T it should make it so the blocks you're placing don't flip ever time you change your angle

  • @k98killer
    @k98killer 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think that drills should be turned on first and turned off last; pistons should be turned on last and turned off first. Otherwise, it might be possible that the drill heads collide with the cave wall while they are off.

  • @darkinterceptoralex2419
    @darkinterceptoralex2419 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Pretty good idea with different rooms. Why you dont put the cargo an its face. so you can stack ist onto each other! you just have to build a tiny room but a high one.

  • @guingstongg1287
    @guingstongg1287 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Drigg Rills for days

  • @Gochen86
    @Gochen86 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Always activate the drills _first when turning on_ but always _last when turning off_ the rig. You don't want the rotor to still be spinning with the drills inactive and risk breaking them! As for storage... Why not try making the large storages part of the floor? It'll save on a ton of resources and open up a ton of floor space to add more detailing work. As for the refineries, I'd highly recommend realigning them so they _DON'T_ block half of the hangar door! That said, it's a shame you can't do a partial rotation, and have a block on the diagonal facing. If you could, you'd be able to make an eight-faceted drill rig.

  • @nadca2
    @nadca2 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    yay my coffee is still fresh, bless you for your engineering

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      lol .. you're welcome ;)

    • @nadca2
      @nadca2 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@SkyeStorme another great episode. i love the all the drilling. if you dig too far down, can you get below the planet's crust?

  • @m14srv
    @m14srv 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😂 I have no idea how you use the planner thing but it's a skill that needs to be learned

  • @jamesduncan5814
    @jamesduncan5814 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Don't forget each one of your cargo containers you accessing as well. But you can install issys inventory mod it will handle a lot

  • @trippyrabbit9972
    @trippyrabbit9972 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like making ship carts so the ship can land onto the cart near the entrance, then the cart takes it into a parking/repair bay. solves the low ceiling problem

  • @TheMum1
    @TheMum1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dear Skye rotation speed I run at .5 piston at .5. And if you are doing stone do 2 speed and 2 yield on the refinery. It chew faster an slightly less ingot. Also run 4 refinery’s the same way.

  • @pieair
    @pieair 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Daily positive comment
    Dinner time? Making the bed? Lounging on the sofa?
    Not without a Skye vid in front of me!
    Also remember to pet Picture 😊

  • @icelotus
    @icelotus 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    if your not playing with mods...
    When refining stone you will get literal tons of gravel as well as the ore, 10's of thousands of bags of it, which is only needed for reactors last i checked, in tiny amounts...
    You might consider dumping them out an airlock (or land based equivalent) for the game to delete for you, it tends to just eat up cargo space otherwise :)

  • @romanmiclo6724
    @romanmiclo6724 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Gravel throw a way. Try use time block for multiple actions at once

  • @robertmcknight8628
    @robertmcknight8628 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Programmable block and the isy's easy inventory script and the gravel sifter mod.

  • @Belnivek
    @Belnivek 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Remember since you have 2 pistons extending together that is twice the speed selected.

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I pointed that out in the last video :)

  • @firiedemon
    @firiedemon 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    loving the base design, really getting a proper sci fyi seel to it!, also tried playing this game and learned i suck!
    Failed the tutorial as i couldnt finish most of it due to exploding the ships, one i caught the mining ships battery on the hanger, it exploded and rocketed my cockpit with me inside miles away! usually had to do the tutorials before i pressed the buttons or due to breaks in the game i couldnt start it XD had a right laugh at it as im not use to failing at games it was a nice change! then with 90% of tutorials failed decided to start planetfall with knowledge of watching sky, died 4 times in the first 30 mins due to pressing z instead of x so instead of slowing down and landing, i turned off dampeners, sped up and went slat XD, buit a base only to learn i had a spawn with no ores within 75k meters XD, next world went alright till i built my first miner and it refused to unload or recharge XD tried to use the projector to use one from the workshop, the projector complained about a grid issue? 10/10 would recommend!

  • @carpemkarzi
    @carpemkarzi 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank god you don’t plan any large, multi level bases, keep on keeping it simple

  • @mathias_jensen1
    @mathias_jensen1 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    😁👍 i vaguely remember there should be a storage script that you can download and watch a tutorial on how it works
    It allows for a auto restock of selected components in a selected storage.
    Example: you define in the (premade) script that you want a 1000 motors in storage unit x always and then i will always try to keep a 1000 motors in storage

  • @MegaLokopo
    @MegaLokopo 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How do you fix the game crashing when the inventory fills up?

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Didn't crash for me ..

  • @catleya8649
    @catleya8649 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm the person that don't play the game and only enjoy watching it you play. So I don't have an idea 😂 sooo dumb question here. Can you make a storage wall so it won't fill you space?? Make those container tucked in the wall? Or the floor??

  • @DLWOLFORD
    @DLWOLFORD 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey SKye. Maybe you should plan a Medical Room to replace those Survival kits?? Your mancave looks 👍 😎

  • @stephenprice5052
    @stephenprice5052 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    To free up a lot of your storage you need to get rid of your gravel

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ... or I could save it and use it ...

    • @stephenprice5052
      @stephenprice5052 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      You won't need millions gravel as only one item uses gravel

    • @einsford9894
      @einsford9894 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed, I try to maintain about 500k of gravel and biff the rest

    • @Serathim
      @Serathim 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@SkyeStorme You want to build a conveyor tube leading outside of your base, then put a conveyor sorter on it white listing gravel then put a ejector port on it, it'll spit out all your gravel and free up a tone of space. The only use for gravel is making reactor components, and your gonna have more than you could ever need with all the stone your mining, so tossing it out is the best thing to do. If you end up needing some for building a reactor then you can just mine some very easily.

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      WTH are you guys talking about ... I only have about 200k of gravel

  • @freelilminja
    @freelilminja 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Highlight of the day

  • @MyMaverick3
    @MyMaverick3 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Get rid of the gravel. It'll free up a bunch of space.

  • @MrHippie1973
    @MrHippie1973 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    If you use "t" the blok placement should be at last ones.

  • @johnathanbrandt2526
    @johnathanbrandt2526 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Timberborn has made it impossible for me to listen to you say the word shaft without snickering

  • @caribu0824
    @caribu0824 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    throw out the gravel you'll only need a small amount for reactors at a later date. dont need it now at all and its taking up to 14k plus in your storage

  • @heinshaaine8153
    @heinshaaine8153 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    poor picture he always only remembers doing the shaft and forgets the head

  • @jbweld138
    @jbweld138 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great job.

  • @lagoman78
    @lagoman78 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Look into mods that do something with gravel. otherwise dump most of it, you only need 20k for your entire play thru and it will clog up your storage

  • @thecolonel7524
    @thecolonel7524 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love your vids btw

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thank you! :)

    • @stephenprice5052
      @stephenprice5052 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Because you will run out of room

    • @thecolonel7524
      @thecolonel7524 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@stephenprice5052 ?

  • @ChristianKlasen-mq4rs
    @ChristianKlasen-mq4rs 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    "big" 😂 that's what he think. XD

  • @tylerhendrix14
    @tylerhendrix14 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is there a way for the tunnels to have something that guides the ships through them? It could keep them level and at a consistent speed.

  • @CraigLYoung
    @CraigLYoung 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks for sharing 👍

  • @GamerGrover
    @GamerGrover 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I was late dang it I love the serios so far.

  • @fusseltyger
    @fusseltyger 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    what? It's that late again? It's Skye Time... 😂

  • @omaewamoushindeiru2014
    @omaewamoushindeiru2014 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    in childhood:digging the hole to china today-digging the central core in a video game 😎

  • @CaptainSnackbar
    @CaptainSnackbar 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i wish they have a way to add stones back to fill in gaps

  • @illercrazy6666
    @illercrazy6666 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Could we get a time laps of you drilling it out?

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      We'll see .. I might be able to time lapse a bit of it :)

  • @thepope56
    @thepope56 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sky you should have use the speed upgrades instead of yield

  • @Makro3d
    @Makro3d 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Skye, any chance of an R&D episode for this series?

  • @hugosales8102
    @hugosales8102 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm enjoying the videos, but I don't know the game, so I would have appreciated explanations on some things, like why you need to be so careful with the ship (I assume it breaks? is it such a big deal?) Also, the way the camera rotates is assenine, who thought that was a good idea??

  • @mons-fe9fw
    @mons-fe9fw 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    First video i saw so don’t know if u addressed this in a previous video but why dont u have colorful hud/items

  • @cmilkau
    @cmilkau 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You can just type "stone" if you want to see where the stone is.

  • @malpherian9459
    @malpherian9459 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your build has a serious issue you can't build a circular chamber unless you have a central axis point which you can't do with four blocks you have to add another block to the side of that chamber so that you can extend out of Central plain into the center of your circle otherwise no matter what you do it's going to be offset by about 20 degrees you need to rebuild that whole chamber or at the very least add another block to the side of that chamber so that you can get a central axis.

  • @airbornejesus3845
    @airbornejesus3845 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hey sky, is there a storage or something that has 2 inputs on the same side?
    If so you could throw in 2 Tspliters that both go into aforementioned item then have one out tube coming from said item to keep your feng shui.

  • @FARBerserker
    @FARBerserker 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    so he wants his big drill going up and down in the drak hole

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  13 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ... you spotted that did you? ;)

  • @Lazygames2
    @Lazygames2 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hy you could have made the 4 button to turn every thing on
    and off

  • @oddranch1429
    @oddranch1429 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Tip for refineries: use speed modules for processing stone, iron, nickel, silicon, cobolt, and magnesium. Use yield modules for processing gold, silver, platinum, and uranium. Only use efficiency modules if you have problems producing enough power.

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Why? You may as well just throw half the "stone, iron, nickel, silicon, cobolt, and magnesium" ore out an airlock ...

    • @oddranch1429
      @oddranch1429 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @SkyeStorme it has to do with the amount of material you get for the amount of ore going in. The high yield inputs it is just better to process them faster then wait longer for a minimal increase in output. Take it from the pros that have been playing 10 years, they know the most efficient ways to do things.

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      No .. you're just wrong. Speed is irrelevant .. if you want to process faster just build more refineries. Refineries should only care about yield.

  • @kampretman
    @kampretman 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sorry Skye. I've been trying to enjoy this gameplay from the start of the series. But i have to skip forward to when you're stationary every 5 secs because if not i suffer from motion sickness.

  • @williamddougans
    @williamddougans 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    PLEASE PLEASE GOD PLAY MORE TIMBERBORN

    • @SkyeStorme
      @SkyeStorme  12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ... and another day gets added ...

    • @williamddougans
      @williamddougans 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ NOOOOOOOO

  • @thecolonel7524
    @thecolonel7524 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Under 13 minute gang

  • @turkeytrac1
    @turkeytrac1 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So you've given up on timberborn?

  • @jokkadread
    @jokkadread 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    usefull tips #2
    - 0.1 extending is the perfect speed to the piston, for a drill to make a hole
    -Manual labor in the game is very easy with Build Vision 3.0 mod.. you thank me later
    -Labeling stuff in base/blueprints/ships will save you a lot of issues, [my.base]my.object my.action # , when you connect them all you can see it all clear