I came from Reddit - 3d printing. Great video, I really enjoyed it. Seeing the whole process was very insightful. I never considered using 3d scans before in prototyping. Now I need to learn how to do it lol. Liked and Subbed, keep up the good work
I have a Fat Tire bike and I always wanted to find a way to convert it into a belt drive, I found your video very informative and you have certainly did an amazing work 🤯!!, keep up the good work!! subscribed 👍
That's pretty slick! As someone with very little knowledge when it comes to bike repair and modding, I'd really appreciate a detailed look into your design. I don't think the actual CAD files would be any good, since the size varies from bike to bike, plus you put a lot of time and effort into it so it wouldn't be fair to expect you to share them anyway. A breakdown of how the different sections work would be amazing.
Try researching immersive waxing for bike chains. It's a bit of an rabbit hole to get fully into it, but once you switch to waxing, you will never go back to chain oil. Wax doesn't attract dirt, it is hydrophobic, so no more dirty hands while handling the chain. Also it has superior lubrication properties compared to any oil out there, so the whole drivetrain will last much longer. I own both bikes with chain and carbon drive belt and honestly since I started waxing the chain, I see no real disadvantages to chain over the belt. And the best thing is that all you need to do to have chain pristine clean is to put it in a jar with hot water and shake. The wax will fully melt and since it's less dense than water, it will foat on top of the water with all the contaminants. Then you just need to dry the chain and reapply the wax.If you rotate 2-3 chains, it can give you even few months of riding between needing to think about waxing.
putting a chain into a jar is way too much work. as is taking it off at all. what? every how many km do you do this? do you ride through out the whole winter?
Interesting. I've looked into it and unfortunately paraffin wax isn't biodegradable, so it will be shed into the environment as pollutant, belt drive on the other hand will release some microplastic over its lifetime, although I doubt the amounts are comparable.
@@difflocktwo @jebysblog - I find waxing actually much easier and much less time consuming. I need to re-wax about 1-2 times a season and I always do about 10 chains at the same time. Each of my bikes have 3 chains which I just swap until they need re-waxing. I also have belt drive on my commuter bike, and even though it is pretty much "maintenance free", you have to do service eventually to tighten the belt to spec and change oil/grease in the planetary gear inside the hub and that I find to be a hell of a job. Also belt drive as of now, is not very suitable for full suspension enduro and trail bikes, so even though it could be an alternative to waxing, it has it's limitations. It is also less efficient compared to chain.
@@FranticGuitar88 So wax three chains once a year, then swap chains twice a year? And they last? I buy a new chain once a year and and also have a 8 speed hub that I oil bath once a year.
Great work! Did you try applying full torque at the cranks (while standing on pedals) to see if the plastic sprockets would survive? In theory they should, I guess, as 1000W power motors use plastic gears (but they are nylon and injection molded)
Yes, I did some good test on the crankset. The front sprocket and the rear one are in PETG at about 75% infill, and so far, they show no signs of cracking or premature wear. The only issue I have is that if I put a lot of tension, the belt sometimes skips a tooth. This happens because I couldn’t apply enough tension. The second version of this assembly will likely address this problem.
that is a neat solution with little practical use. added friction, complexity, points of failure, maybe some vulnerability to dirt, janky mounting.. especially when split belts exist. but you didn't do it because it was practical, did ya? Looks like a fun project.
Nicely done, hope you have printed that with a suitable material if you are planning to take it out on long journeys. I am designing a bike that will use a belt drive system soon, any chance you would be happy to share the stl files for people to study and adapt, for their own use cases?
Классно придумал. Стало интересно, какие отличия по весу. Сколько грамм выиграл? Cool idea. How much weight difference from steel gears+chain to plastic gears+rubber belt? What about resource, will be video after year of use?
if the belt was a bit shorter you could get this to work with only two bearings -_ _----------- _ _- // \ o --- o / \\ \\ _ _ // \\ _ _ // ----- ----- i hope the drawing makes sense
I thought a lot about your response, and I realize it’s actually quite clever. At first, I couldn’t see how to tighten the strap with your system, but after thinking about it, by moving the second bearing closer to the crankset, it could indeed create a tension . I’ll keep that in mind for a potential version 2 !
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This video saved my marriage, thank you.
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Lovely design. Please keep testing and let us know the durability.
Great ideas are always simple at the end, but they are so hard to find.
I came from Reddit - 3d printing. Great video, I really enjoyed it. Seeing the whole process was very insightful. I never considered using 3d scans before in prototyping. Now I need to learn how to do it lol.
Liked and Subbed, keep up the good work
My curiosity is very much sparked
I have a Fat Tire bike and I always wanted to find a way to convert it into a belt drive, I found your video very informative and you have certainly did an amazing work 🤯!!, keep up the good work!! subscribed 👍
This kind of design is also good for printing because it engages more teeth on the sprockets.
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That's pretty slick!
As someone with very little knowledge when it comes to bike repair and modding, I'd really appreciate a detailed look into your design.
I don't think the actual CAD files would be any good, since the size varies from bike to bike, plus you put a lot of time and effort into it so it wouldn't be fair to expect you to share them anyway. A breakdown of how the different sections work would be amazing.
Yea, I will probably make an other video, explain it more !
This is a great idea! I hope bike manufacturers catch on and release this kind of system
Why would they if they can sell you an expensive new bike instead?
The problem is how to make a gear box for that
The future is now!
This is a very nice video ! And a very cool and interesting project !
Awesome video! This guy is a genius!
Hey nice work. Keep it up. I love equally designing new propelling mechanisms for bicycles. Let's stay connected.
Wow insane really nice idea!
Awesome work!
I had a belt bench drill. Ithr belt didn't last drilling one hole.
Such a nice video!
Great stuff man!
What a gem ❤
Try researching immersive waxing for bike chains. It's a bit of an rabbit hole to get fully into it, but once you switch to waxing, you will never go back to chain oil. Wax doesn't attract dirt, it is hydrophobic, so no more dirty hands while handling the chain. Also it has superior lubrication properties compared to any oil out there, so the whole drivetrain will last much longer. I own both bikes with chain and carbon drive belt and honestly since I started waxing the chain, I see no real disadvantages to chain over the belt. And the best thing is that all you need to do to have chain pristine clean is to put it in a jar with hot water and shake. The wax will fully melt and since it's less dense than water, it will foat on top of the water with all the contaminants. Then you just need to dry the chain and reapply the wax.If you rotate 2-3 chains, it can give you even few months of riding between needing to think about waxing.
putting a chain into a jar is way too much work. as is taking it off at all. what? every how many km do you do this? do you ride through out the whole winter?
Try belt... I've belt on one of my bikes and dream about bringing it on all my bikes
Interesting. I've looked into it and unfortunately paraffin wax isn't biodegradable, so it will be shed into the environment as pollutant, belt drive on the other hand will release some microplastic over its lifetime, although I doubt the amounts are comparable.
@@difflocktwo @jebysblog - I find waxing actually much easier and much less time consuming. I need to re-wax about 1-2 times a season and I always do about 10 chains at the same time. Each of my bikes have 3 chains which I just swap until they need re-waxing. I also have belt drive on my commuter bike, and even though it is pretty much "maintenance free", you have to do service eventually to tighten the belt to spec and change oil/grease in the planetary gear inside the hub and that I find to be a hell of a job. Also belt drive as of now, is not very suitable for full suspension enduro and trail bikes, so even though it could be an alternative to waxing, it has it's limitations. It is also less efficient compared to chain.
@@FranticGuitar88 So wax three chains once a year, then swap chains twice a year? And they last?
I buy a new chain once a year and and also have a 8 speed hub that I oil bath once a year.
Great work! Did you try applying full torque at the cranks (while standing on pedals) to see if the plastic sprockets would survive? In theory they should, I guess, as 1000W power motors use plastic gears (but they are nylon and injection molded)
Yes, I did some good test on the crankset. The front sprocket and the rear one are in PETG at about 75% infill, and so far, they show no signs of cracking or premature wear. The only issue I have is that if I put a lot of tension, the belt sometimes skips a tooth. This happens because I couldn’t apply enough tension. The second version of this assembly will likely address this problem.
That's awesome! Why go through it when you can just go around it 😄
Amazing work, I love it!!! Could you share the design so I can fit to my frame?
Interesting project! What software did you use for scanning your bike?
Polycam on Iphone. Work very well
If you had a slightly shorter belt, you could have gotten away with only 1 roller at the front, moving it up/down to tighten the belt.
Nice work!
Curious about the longevity, but amazing design work already!
Cool, in the future, I would like to see how it goes.
Make a commercial kit with such a conversion. I'm curious how it would work with a mid drive and planetary hub.
Awesome!, i made a similar project involving a splittable belt.
that is a neat solution with little practical use. added friction, complexity, points of failure, maybe some vulnerability to dirt, janky mounting.. especially when split belts exist.
but you didn't do it because it was practical, did ya? Looks like a fun project.
I just don’t like oiling the chain, haha. But I’m sure there’s a way to simplify it a lot if I put more thought into it.
Wow, that is actually pretty cool. Are you planning on releasing the models?
Nha. This is not universal.
Yet. ; )
Nicely done, hope you have printed that with a suitable material if you are planning to take it out on long journeys.
I am designing a bike that will use a belt drive system soon, any chance you would be happy to share the stl files for people to study and adapt, for their own use cases?
This will not fit your bike. This is not universal. You can take the idea tho, and model you're own now that you know the concept work
@Westloki Yes, for sure the design won't fit. Was just interested in the profile of the model where it meshes with the belt really.
You need to commercialize this!
Классно придумал. Стало интересно, какие отличия по весу. Сколько грамм выиграл?
Cool idea. How much weight difference from steel gears+chain to plastic gears+rubber belt? What about resource, will be video after year of use?
Still testing it. Will make a video after tho !
Chains are only rusty and noisy when you don't look after your bike. Have you ever wondered what oil is for ?
Don't need oil anymore ; )
Less maintenance with a belt
Hey man, interesting project, what filament did you use?
PETG. not expensive, and the best for outside use
you can cut the frame and prınt a goof frame conection :D
nice
Great work!
Tho the ai voice makes the video hard to watch
Yea... I will fix that in the next one
Can you make 3d printed gearbox for your bike?
This will be the next subject of the next video ; )
I like the approach, Can you share your files
This will not fit your bike. This is not universal. You can take the idea tho, and model you're own now that you know the concept work :)
Can you switch speeds with this design or is it single-speed transmission?
Only 1 speed for the moment. I will work on something for the V2
@@Westloki Yeah, it would be great to have multi speed bike. But you've already done great job with current design!
any belt slippage biking uphill?
Not really. The belt need to have a good tension. And the gear, the good pitch.
What software did you use for the photogrammetry? Then the modelling?
Polycam for the scan, and Solidworks for the modelling
if the belt was a bit shorter you could get this to work with only two bearings
-_ _----------- _ _-
// \ o --- o / \\
\\ _ _ // \\ _ _ //
----- -----
i hope the drawing makes sense
I thought a lot about your response, and I realize it’s actually quite clever. At first, I couldn’t see how to tighten the strap with your system, but after thinking about it, by moving the second bearing closer to the crankset, it could indeed create a tension . I’ll keep that in mind for a potential version 2 !
@Westloki thanks :) you did all the work, though. it's awesome that this works without a split in the belt or the frame. looking forward to v2
Awesome work! Would have loved to hear what this sounds like after the earlier note about chain driven bikes being noisy.
Nice build! If any custom metal parts may help? We're open to sponsor! (PCBWay zoey)
That sounds great! For the next version of this project, it could be really useful. How can I reach out to you?
What are if any the benefits over the traditional chain?
Dont need oil. Just that is a good point for me.
Both system have their pro and con
But how does it sound while cycling?
You don't hear the clicking noise like the chain. So it's a little bit better.
What material is this printed with?
PETG. No problem for now 👍
@@Westloki I was thinking ABS but PETG should work.
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Do you sell or share the 3D model or Print files?
Not this version. I will likely share the V2 after testing this one for a long run.
Please share the files :)
This will not fit your bike. This is not universal. But I will work on something ; )
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