Addressing the JoJo Siwa Controversy - The Try Pod Ep. 258
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 พ.ค. 2024
- We settle once and for all the best way to ghost someone, how to spill tea, and whether you should keep socks on or off in bed.
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Executive Producers - Keith Habersberger, Eugene Lee Yang, & Zach Kornfeld
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It took me 258 episodes of the Trypod to figure out the person Miles reminds me of is Gina Linetti
Omg that is spot on
@@rhondabear5639 ikr, what an icon
🤯
Oh yeah, sure
Oh my life!!! That's why I love him so much!!!!! 😂😂😂
"I can almost guarantee the person I vote for this year I do not love" LMAO 😂
The youths have informed me that the “soft fade away pass” is referred to as “caspering”. Because it’s ghosting but friendlier.
Keith's empathy and understanding is such an impressive personality trait. It's so easy to jump to easy criticisms of popular figures, him pointing out Jojo's never gotten to experience the real world was such an under rated moment. You can tell he's holding a lot of space in the conversation for her human-ness. Really appreciate that nuance in these conversations!
I LOVE the idea of Zach and Keith knowing their employees are outside taking shit about them and being so cool about it lmao, ethical shit talking your bosses for the good of the company
Maggie mentioned that she liked Danny Phantom at YCWSU pod (ep192) and Zach wearing a Danny Phantom shirt is so sweet ❤
I came here to say the same thing!!
32:07 Hey Miles, you definitely dodged a bullet with the person who you called on the phone. That girl sounds like she had self esteem issues/ego issues and is not on your level of chill.
Miles and Bowie's bromance is the gift that keeps on giving
im so hyped i just watched the pod at zachs house where bowie was all over miles im so hyped
i love everyone citing the genie rules from aladdin like they’re Official™️
and they are
So glad Conan is getting his flowers. I grew up loving him, and my mom would joke that he’s secretly my dad because I have red hair. His series Conan Without Borders is one of my comfort shows.
his new show on max is supposed to be really good.
Can you imagine if you could get Sean Evans on eat the menu?
The way they included footage of Zach sneezing in the montage for Advice That’ll Go for Miles because of the previous episode where he brought up the sneezing kink 😭
why does miles have the most lesbian music taste ever it’s so funny
i was thinking this today!!! the man loves boygenius and chappell roan 😭 he is my favourite honorary lesbian
Idk but his wife's mom has said something similar lol
He gives off a similar vibe to Seth Meyers, another one of my favorite honorary lesbian 😂
we have the same taste and i’m bisexual so it’s hilarious to me too 😅
@@blake9033genuinely curious where did his wife say that??
i have this in my notes app from 2019: idea for buzzfeed: "i change my bitmojis outfit every day for a month"
Tripod genuinely discussing jojo wasn’t on my 2024 bingo card 😂
Same
My local mall was just bought out by some locals. They're striving to put in mom and pop businesses first before big chains. They're even having events there. I was a vendor at one of their first pop up event and it was AMAZING. I can't wait for them to do more. It was a lot more inviting and accessible for the community.
Ngl, i like Mythical Kitchen’s Last Meal series instead Hot Ones coz The team will cook celebs fave meals aka last meals and Josh is a good interviewer w/o eating hot wings
Last meal is like the self care celebrities need after going through hot ones. Both are so good, I definitely love that Josh came up with the nice version and his questions are just as good.
I think they're both really great and both work because the styles are so different
@@Rachelholly3000 maybe because i don’t like watching people eat and then became uncomfortable. 😅 Like i just want a chill, mukbang interview style haha. but yap, both are good. I just prefer to watch the whole video of mythical kitchen last meal instead of hot ones, to each its own
@@Teffe-dl6dztrue . Its just my preference but both are great. Like its an alternative for hot ones or the other way around
The hot ones try to get real answers out of celebrity’s instead of cultivated answers.
I feel like Rainie needs to be getting her flowers for the edits during the advice theme song. Today’s was phenomenal and we need to talk about it
tripod talking bout this wasn’t on my 2024 docket. . .
This was definitely on my bingo card
Wish I could be part of this conversation IRL to remind everyone that the third rule for genies is that you can’t wish for more wishes and the Midwest pie place Keith is talking about is Bakers Square lol
Hilarious that they think Barry Keoghan hasn’t dealt with much worse, the poor foster kid who grew up in Dublin inner city
Thank you I was just thinking that
IDK if many Americans realize how rough Dublin can be. I know I didn't until I visited. It's not really a place we ever hear anything negative about.
That story about Keith and the homecoming dance and the girl being like "no, we're still dating" makes a lot more sense when he explained that her parents were obsessed and indulgent with her XD Clearly not the type of girl who was used to being told "no."
If the big event isn't grease boy, imma riot.
the montage style of the miles advice theme song has become so camp and iconic, can i just say
Rainie…can we get the guys on board for stopping by Denver on tour ? How can they not visit the queen of the podcast’s hometown? Thanks y’all for cheering up our Thursday!
Bowseph trying to kick Miles out of his chair is everything.
The Better Help ad runs from 15:07 to 16:15 if you don't want to skip it.
It’s kind of sweet that Keith is genuinely concerned about Jojo
The idea I have ever voted for someone I love is so rude to me honestly.
brittany matthews spotted
“Is love fraud?” said within a week of the tortured poets dept coming out 😂
Keith screaming “how cold is it”, literally 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
There are few moments in life where I actually stop and laugh out loud. Love you guys
Thank you for not jumping on the bandwagon and ripping Jojo apart.
I see a young woman who has made mistakes (probably due to a lack of good management honestly) and who we have seen deal with a batshit childhood. That much attention on a child is insane.
The fact that ppl haven't learned a thing about judging kid stars from Brittany or Miley's stories is just crazy.
I never cared about Jojos work. I'm too old to have been into it.
But it's covering my feed now. So here I am with an option.😂
*screaming at my phone* YOU ALSO CANT WISH FOR MORE WISHES
Keith's story reminds me of the Seinfeld episode where George "Try's" to break up with someone & the person was like......."No, were Not breaking up!" 😂🤣😂🤣
Keith told before that he has no more stories to tell and he must have told everything... then we have this golden nugget of a break-up story
For the record, it's Barry "Key-OH-gan"
Keith positioning and gently holding the skeleton is very sweet and fatherly.
honestly HARD disagree on the ghosting conversation; I was very surprised to hear all of you agree abt it. I (& most ppl I talk to) would much prefer a direct "hey! I had fun but I'm not interested in taking this further" message than a ghost.
like genuinely I was SO shocked to hear all of you agree on that ghosting standpoint, b/c I don't think I've ever hear someone say that before. maybe it's an LA dating culture thing? idk
Okay, I had to pause and say a few things:
1. Not-single millennial here, and maybe it's a generational thing: I could never do a soft fade-away! I've had guys do that and I feel like it just wasted my time. I'd so much rather know up front it's not a good fit, and the few times that short convo has happened, I feel like everyone was just like, "Oh, okay. Gotcha. Thanks for letting me know and not leading me on. See ya!" and no one's time was wasted.
2. The worst way a guy broke up with me was after we hooked up twice, had a thousand convos about things we wanted to do in LA together, maybe a Vegas trip in the future, and then he comes out and texts me that he fell into a hole (a literal one) and probably shouldn't date someone right now. Like literally, I asked if he was okay/needed help, and he was like, "Oh yeah. I got out of the hole, but it was a big one in the middle of a street. Anyway, take care." So...hey Josh, if you're reading.
These glasses are *WORKING* for Zach
Keith correcting and saying “gotten” instead of “had to” was iconic
Jojo Newswa was woefully under-appreciated
"El Cajon, where you at?" Every Sandiegan is cackling! It's awesome but hilarious that you guys chose there hahah
I have NO empathy for Jojo, her and her mother both have allegations of abuse and ableism to a girl in the pop group her and her mother started, she also just defends people who’ve harmed children and that’s ick
I 100% get where your are coming from. Personally I can offer more grace to JoJo than her Mom. Just because I thtink Jojo still has the opportunity to realize and acknowledge that she was abused, mistreated, and surrounded by adults that took advantage of her. And then she continued that cycle. If she could admit that and apologize and work to better herself I could let go of her misdeeds.
@@ceeceepg if she does that great! But until then I won’t let it go as a disabled individual
@@ceeceepg would you be saying that if she was bigoted towards any other group? because ive come to realise that people ignore/excuse ableism a lot more than any other form of bigotry.
@@TheeEnglishKnight Yes I believe I would. I don't expect anyone who was victimized by her to forgive her. And she would have to do some serious work and acknowledge that she did abusive and hurtful things. But I also know she has just barely gained independence from her parents that are very controlling and manipulative. So I want to believe she can grow and learn after stepping out of the echo chamber she grew up in.
@@Clownbunnycosplay And that is completely understandable. Forgiveness isn't something anyone is owed. And it is never a victim's responsibility to help an abuser.
I would LOVE a heist video!! Like a Brooklyn Nine-Nine Halloween Heist, the TGs should do it in their office and have Rachel choose an item of emotional value and the guys need to try to steal it before time runs out. That would be so fun
TOPIC: GHOSTING
I definitely agree with Miles when he said it’s more polite to ghost over having a played out convo about it. My experience has been pretty similar. Back in 2019, I was a newly single mom, I went out on a date with this really amazing guy. He basically fit all the things and more than I could’ve imagined for my person. We kissed at the end of the date and it felt like I saw the rest of my life with him in it. However, I was in the midst of a nasty custody battle and dealing with postpartum depression. I wasn’t in the mental space to commit to someone I knew was my endgame. I felt overwhelmed and hanging by a thread I felt like I couldn’t add more to my plate. I ended up ghosting him… then he deleted me off of the internet for awhile because I was extremely karmic, dated someone for two weeks in a self sabotaging kind of way. I was very unaware of my commitment issues at that time and needed some serious HEALING. Shortly after that I got into therapy and I started doing major inner work. Around that time, he added me back on social media but he was in a long term relationship. I think I reached out to him immediately and apologized for ghosting him. Then for three years, he and I would message each other when we shared emotional posts or rants on social media. Over time, we built a really good friendship. I felt like I didn’t have much support around me. He was in that long term relationship the whole time and I really felt certain that I missed my chance with him- due to my unhealed decisions. Around 2022, I was in the hospital due to health issues and around this time him and his ex also broke up. I knew I loved him in 2020 but I never expressed it because I respected his relationship and I mean I ghosted him to begin with so how could he believe me??? Pretty quickly after they broke up, we expressed how we truly felt about each other and that was it for us. Within 5 months, we got married. I considered him my best friend for 5 years since we originally met at work in 2017 when he was just becoming a father to his daughter. Basically we met and then went on our first date are extremely pivotal moments in each of our lives! Now we are about to celebrate two years with our beautiful blended family. There’s many lessons in this situation but I strongly believe that everything happened the way it was meant to. So I hope that my story is hope to someone who has experienced anything similar. What’s meant for you is always going to be yours. I don’t know what would have happened if I explained to him what I was going through at the time instead of just retreating and trying to handle things alone. I do know now that he’s the most supportive and patient man I have ever met. I’m grateful for the opportunity to be spend the rest of my life with him and our kids 🥹
Thank you so much to anyone who read this whole thing, you deserve all the blessings and happiness 🫶🏻✨
Gahhh I love this story and I love this for you both!! So happy for y’all and your family. Thank you for sharing ❤
@@smam5548 thank you so much !! 🫶🏻🥹
For the 'celebs doing normal jobs' show, there was also a BBC show where the Welsh comedian Rhod Gilbert did 'Work Experience' for a range of different jobs. It was great and I wish they still made it. Definitely a solid concept that I'd love to see with different celebs.
Zach is giving Jack Antonoff in this episode 😂 i love it
Keith gesturing with the skeleton arms is killing me 😂
i’m so with Keith on the sock debate. having freezing cold feet can be distracting to both parties involved lol.
Zach I’m loving the Danny Phantom shirt
Oh, that Anchorman 2 story gets me, but I can do better. I had a guy I was dating plan a whole stay-in date where he was going to cook me dinner at my place. He came over with all these groceries, and then he told me he loved me for the first time. I told him I loved him, too. He then, still with his arms around me, told me he was really sorry that he needed to break up with me because his college crush contacted him and they had a great first date already (they went ice skating) and he was going to be seeing her now. He then thought he was going to stay for that dinner like we were buddies. I'd have rather been ghosted.
“Undercover cousin” at a family reunion is literally a plot from the 1993 classic POETIC JUSTICE starring Janet Jackson and Tupac
THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS DURING LESBIAN VISIBILITY WEEK?!? Ugh slay. 😭💜
I genuinely think Last Meals and Hot Ones are some of the best celebrity content there is!
Zach. Idk how smRt it would be for you to Rob a bank after announcing how badly you want to rob a bank online
"Make that kitty talk," Miles 2024
I was stoned listening to Keith’s rebuttal and it shook me sober 😂😂😂
Maybe it's the millennial in me, but in my opinion ghosting is a no go. Ultimately, if you aren't interested in someone, you really should be able to say that and move on instead of waiting 4 days to respond to their message or whatever Miles said. Its not fair to the other person who's left on the hook. And With that, people should also learn to take rejection better which is probably why there's ghosting in the first place.
I hate the "we're just hanging out" bs because emotions often get involved. Similar to asking someone out, I think there should be some agreed communication for non-relationships, too.
whoa, i didn't recognize zach for a second! great haircut, dude!
edit: and glasses! sick glasses!
Gwyneth Paltrow on the Celeb Normalize show
So far I love Keith's attitude towards the whole JoJo situation. So many people seem to entirely forget she's a real person with baggage.
didn’t she abuse a disabled child
and also defend pedos
Abuse and ableism are not just 'baggage'. That's very dismissive of the harm she's caused
@@robo7643100%! But i also think there is a difference between holding someone accountable for their actions and doing what the internet has done to Jojo. She isn't virally hated because people are morally opposed to her actions. She is virally hated because it is the funny cool thing to do.
Rainie Court is the PERFECT SEGMENT 🎉
I have anxiety and ghosting is truly awful bc it's hard to control a thought spiral. The soft fade also feels terrible when you're anxious bc therapy tells you not to overthink and accept the facts. If a guy says he has been busy and then doesnt respond for a few days, i feel it is a rejection but the information given doesn't match. So neither are good communication in my mind.
RE: the breakup conversation!
DON'T try to stay with someone who says they don't want to date you. Even if you get mixed signals! You deserve to be wanted back!
absolutely chuffed to hear that they discussed aquamarine on guilty pleasures
I wanted to insert my opinion on ghosting, I think if you went on even one date you shouldn't ghost. If no date happened and only conversation, you could get away with ghosting or the soft fade away. I was always hurt by rejection even after one date but I got over it.
Try Guys rob a bank is awesome. Acting and filming has to be to candid competition standards.
Even if 100% of it is totally fake I would LOVE to see it
Zach is right, fresh bed socks that don’t come out of the bed that are immediately replaced upon getting out of bed is the MOVE
Woahwoahwoah, how long has it been since i watched the youtube version instead of audio?! Zachs glasses look great! These guys are aging in reverse.
I taught myself how to take my socks off in my sleep, so that I don’t have to wake up and take my socks off, but I can go to sleep with toasty feet.
46:20 hahaha i love how open they are about talking shit about your boss 😂 and your bosses are in the room, hahaa
I just had a guy tell me he didn’t want to date me any more by using one of his other partners’ texts as a way to start the conversation, then told me that he “tried so hard” in the 3 months we were dating, then got mad at me because I was angry with him for stringing me along for so long lmaoooooo what a clown
Shut up 😭 whatta mess. I’m sorry man.
It's so funny for Keith to say he doesn't want to make his party guests have to take off/put on shoes, because that's almost an iconic part of a Canadian college-age house party. The entry hall piled with more shoes than you can imagine fitting there, the hunt through a dozen pairs of nearly-identical Blundstones to find yours, the inevitability of someone drunkenly going home in someone else's shoes... All classic shenanigans
There really needs to be an "Escape Room: Rob a Bank" where it's like a Hollywood lot/paintball park but a street and a faux bank you and your team have to plan and heist the crap out of. That would be awesome. 43:13
After Keith said Caribou, I know that the pie place he’s talking about is called Baker Square. My mom worked there for many many many years.
This episode has me laughing every minute, everyone’s unhinged energy and the banter I just can’t 😅
23:32 yes, sock off the heel, stopping at the arch. I feel seen. I always knew Zach was my favorite for a reason.
I need to know where Zach shops... He's always wearing the coolest clothes!
the costco call out is funny because I was just watching the rant in the costco parking lot yesterday and also miles talking about his shoeless household was mentioned either in that video or another video from recently or a few months ago I cant remember anyway all that's just to say I miss the plogs a bit but I do love a nice sit down gossip sesh
punctuation exists btw
23:29 mannn… i do that 😭😭 it’s a habit from my dance teacher bc she always told us to never have our socks fully on in the dance room or else we might slip and hurt ourselves
Most insane breakup story of all time: i know these dudes, twins, who were both dating girls they didnt like all that much but were too non-confrontational to do anything about it. One of them got a job that required him to move completely across the country, like 5000 km away, and he decides to just move without telling the gf. His brother hears about this and thinks oh damn what a good idea, im gonna move there with you. So they proceed with the plan and when the girls hear from them, they think huh weird that they forgot to tell us. And they both packed their bags to move 5000 freakin km to follow the guys!!! I dont remember how they actually did the breakups but they did both eventually manage it.
I was just about to comment that I have a big box of CasaIdeas slippers (Chilean sort of IKEA) before Zach said that!!
gap is getting sued by coach bc old navy released t shirts that say coach across them lmao
I was 14 when I watched you guys in buzzfeed I'm turning 28 this year and my son and I watch you here and over at try guys. ❤ I grew up with yall
As silly as it might sound the song "break even" really makes sense for me with breakups it's rarely ever even. I think that's why they always feel so mean.
So much love for jojo and I really hope she is in a healthy environment now but to add to the discussion it is bonkers to me that she said on the show special forces she had NEVER been away from her mom and family for anything more than 24 hours…
12:44 Paris did not get off easy for being Paris🤣 she just genuinely would not listen and would not want to cooperate
Had to make sure miles was here (I’m sat)
funny that the cousin thing from zach has also come up in this week's Um, Actually ep
also JoJo siwa hangs out with James Charles and defended colleen ballinger so the song thing is nothing compared to that
Zach looks much nicer with those glasses and not the creepy guy ones he used to wear.
the thing with ghosting is it hurts to be on the other end of it especially if you're super enthusiastic about them from the first couple dates. i would 100% rather someone text me something difficult (e.g. i'm not ready to date right now) and go home with complete clarity and be able to start getting over it!
Never thought I would hear my hometown's name of El Cajon come out of the try guys mouth so many times lol. I gotta go to that show and represent!
The show idea of making celebrities pose as normal people, I believe there’s a similar show from 2009 or smth called “I Get That A Lot”. Nick Jonas and Paris Hilton were on it
Alright who got the tripod grounded lol
Absolutely love the energy of this episode. Perfection.🩷♥️🤍💙🩵
If anyone is interested in child actors I would recommend Allyson Stoner’s podcast where she talks about the toddler to train wreck pipeline and ways to protect children in the industry.
honestly i only bought a ticket to the eat the menu live show is BECAUSE it’ll be in el cajon 😂
Love the Danny Phantom shirt lol
Waiting for them to talk about Watcher next lmao