+pblar1986 -- Thanks for that, another poster suggested I check out World 1500 and lo and behold, lots of videos on PPC in Europe - gotta check those all out...fum memories... Happy Holidays, FC
Great video! It's nice to know the origins of the bullet board now: I just purchased an 8-shot Ruger SP101 in 22lr and was looking at speed loader options. One company is selling a speed loader and bullet board combo for the 22lr SP101. I think I'll buy it! I already own a 15 round spee-d-loader for my Remington 512P and Glenfield model 60, and was hoping they'd sell one that accommodates 8 rounds, but the closest sizes are 6 and 11 rounds. Seems like a bullet board and speed loader will be a better option!
+Azvoltman - PPC is great fun. And you can set up your own matches. Even without barricades, shooting from positions at 25, 35 and prone at 50 yards gives shooters whole new experiences. Happy Holidays, FC
Great video, thanks! PPC is still popular around the world, but under the 'World Association 1500' banner. It is popular here in Australia with regular regional tournaments held.
+TehBr0 -- Thanks for your comment. Always great to hear from Australian friends..!! Hail to Australia..!! We've heard from the UK that it is popular there. I just checked out World 1500 and lo and behold - lots of PPC videos - going to have fun checking those out...Brings back the memories...Happy Holidays to ya, FC
+gman77gas -- Already did one featuring the gun...this video featured PPC. From what I hear, there are still some PPC matches here and there. Perhaps some interested shooters will start other matches. In the UK, PPC is still shot a fair amount - allows the competition shooters to keep their guns. Happy Holidays to ya, Gary -
+gman77gas - Just posted this in another reply and thought you might enjoy it -- I have a story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays to ya again, Steve
My understanding from my late grandfather was that the National Rifle Association decided that competitors must be sworn law enforcement officers back in the 1980's. This change in the rules prevented civilians from participating in PPC and is what led to increased interest in IDPA among American shooters.
It may still be popular in the US if non-police were allowed to shoot registered matches. Civilians can shoot club matches, but not any "real" matches. I found out the hard way. I shot several club matches and liked it. So I bought a full blown PPC revolver made by Jerry Keefer Custom. I was excited to shoot some larger matches and found out I was not eligable.
+scott grizzle -- Might sound surprising to you, but the other guns that were popular were Colt Pythons and Troopers - didn't see any Dan Wessons... Happy Holidays to ya, FC
FortuneCookie45LC, I wish PPC were more popular because it is a useful training tool and promotes good marksmanship. Specifically, I wish we would / could adopt some more PPC-like stages into USPSA, as it has moved toward a more speed based sport over the years. We tend to favor high round count stages with relatively close targets. Standards stages are not popular at our USPSA club matches, and good luck finding a PPC match around here as I’m not aware of any. Can we really call these trends progress?
+xpallodoc -- Great comment, but the reverse is true. Used Bill Davis revolvers can be found for the price of a new gun. If you can find those in good shooting condition (and most are), you will have a treasure. The reason is because PPC is not that popular now and the gun is too heavy for any regular shooting...If one is rusty with the weight of the gun, it actually hampers accurate shooting until the shooter gets used to it. I have a story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays to ya, FC
Cookie, I don't believe that PPC was done all in Vain. Like you said Bullseye and precision pistol shooting (Free pistol) is boring to watch. PPC brought the People to the Matches and put spectators on the sidelines. and Its not an easy thing to do or Master. (By the way, The Mod-66 you have is a beautiful custom gun made by a master of his skills, Bill Davis was a Top pistol smith). I think that is one of the nicest Pistols you have shown us of your Collection.
+Thorsaxe777 -- I thought I replied, but I must have missed posting it...Gads, first time that happened. Bill Davis had a shop in the East Bay Area and I visited it often - bought two guns from him along with all the leather and that bullet board. Also I bought 38 wadcutter PPC reloads from his shop 1000 in a box. Walking out of his shop lugging a couple of those boxes to the car each visit are pleasant memories. Almost every brass Winchester empty case I have came from all the reloads I bought there when I was competing. I also shot a lot of my own practice reloads to match the purchased ammo using those swaged HBWCs from Moulton's gun store. I wish that I had a closet full of those accurate bullets today as they were very good, greasy, but good - no one makes those anymore. Just shows how popular PPC was back in the 70s and 80s when revolvers ruled in law enforcement. Dirty Harry, with his big 44, and all the cop shows with their 38s saturated the media. When LE went to the autoloaders, the decline of PPC started as everyone switched over to the other action comps...Best of the Holidays to ya, FC
Like I said, Your Bill Davis Gun has all the Mystic of the Hans Solo Blaster. But it's not a Legend like some old conversation piece, that gun is a real tack driver and is precise in it's balance with all the work done to it. (Nice gun) and disserved all the rounds you put through it. I bet it is just as tight as the day you bought it. a testament to the pistol smith.
+Thorsaxe777 -- Absolutely. Bill Davis and his crew were fine gunsmiths and craftsmen.... This pistol is a testament to them and to the sport of PPC... I should shoot it more as the sheer weight of it is good training for pistol shooting... Best Regards to you for a fine 2016, FC
+Bob Kopchik - It's already in another video. I didn't shoot it as well as I remember as I had forgotten how heavy that gun is!! The sheer weight of it makes shooting it harder. But here is an interesting post that I just made that you might find interesting... I have a story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays, FC
+Dan Pisula -- Is a whole lot of fun - just saw some videos of PPC in Europe and brought back a lot of memories... here is something from another reply above you might find fun -- I have a story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays, FC
+Tregeta -- It was fun...we drew from the holster and fired 6 rounds at 7 yards on the B27, reloaded and fired another 6 in total of 20 seconds. Then we moved back to 15 yards and 25 yards and shot barricade right and left. Then some comps went to 35 yards before going to prone at 50 yards. Then everybody scored each others targets...was great fun. Could be shot with autoloaders also within the rules. It was precision target shooting like NRA Bullseye, but with practical implications. The comps morphed on for spectator and TV appeal. That came with knock down steel targets and movers while maintaining the necessity of precision shooting = Bianchi Cup - still one of the most prestigious of shooting events. Happy Holidays to ya, FC
+Gerry K -- There is a small amount of recoil, but the heavy barrel weight brings the gun right back. And the slab side was to accommodate the barricade (although the clamping onto the barricade was not a technique we used - that came later). Happy Holidays to ya, FC
+Gerry K -- Just posted this in another reply and thought you might get a kick out of it (ha, ha pun..ha) - I have an old story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays to ya again, FC
+FortuneCookie45LC Happy Holidays right back to ya !! Was at the Range Yesterday and their were Two Revolver Guys, one on each side of me. They had Many different wheel guns with them. Both Guys Shot Everything Well !! One Better than the other and he was giving instruction to his friend. LESSON: A GOOD SHOOTER CAN SHOOT ANYTHING WELL !!!
+Gerry K -- You've noticed that as well. There are good shooters that shoot everything well. Now I am not one of those. Most of us, myself included, are always asking "How's the trigger on that gun?" We want the trigger that is crisp and sharp - breaks like "a glass rod". When you think about it, that trigger is a problem because it is predictable and we can jerk it since we know where it goes off - our subconscious mind might say "Now...(jerk)". The best trigger is a surprise break... if you think about it, an unpredictable trigger would be the best... a creepy trigger would have us just squeezing and squeezing until it goes off on the first, second, third...creeep... But we hate that because we think we can't shoot it well...the best shooters shoot all triggers the same - they just squeeze until it goes. And if the triggers are predictable, they might even shoot with the gun moving so that their minds already have the moving sights timed to cross on target just as the trigger breaks with their smooth press just like shotgun shooters breaking a clay bird...I call that the Dynamic Sight Picture and the Dynamic Trigger. Watch closely Hickok45 some time. Good shooters shoot either way Static and Dynamic and they might not even know it. Their minds do it, and they hit targets. These are trigger concepts you don't hear about on any video or from any firearms instructor, but are extremely advanced techniques - how else are the steel shooters able to hit 5 targets in 2 seconds from the leather? No way are they dead stopping on each target, they might even say they are. But it is practically impossible to dead stop and time the trigger to break at the stop before getting the gun moving again to dead stop and time the next break. Just as easy to smoothly break the trigger as the sights are crossing over the width of the plates perhaps with a delayed move - much more leeway that way then dead stop... and the bullets still hit near center for them because they have the talent and physical attributes. And yes, their triggers are light and crisp - they are making the gun go off when they want to - if they say they are shooting surprise breaks - that is splitting hairs (ha, har) on their part - their trigger presses are smooth, but so compressed in time that they are actually making the guns fire on demand. For the sake of argument, suppose you had a 1 oz trigger (or an electric trigger). It would go off on touch - try telling anyone that you are squeezing that...The reason I haven't done a video on this is - what's the point? Best to ya in 2016. FC
+FortuneCookie45LC I shoot pretty good because I shot BB. & Pellet guns for most of my life. Because of that I Can Have Good Trigger Control !!! However, my reality is my good trigger control has been compromised due to Not Being Use To The Bang When A REAL GUN GOES OFF !!! I Need To Calm Myself About The Bang and Slow Down !! DISCIPLINE !!!! I Need to Practice More Often !!! When I took my CCW course, my Instructor said I was a Natural !! Again, that's from Air Guns !!
JOHN CLARK - Nowadays, LE needs to use what the bad guys are using (the Miami shootout 1986 FBI vs 2 bad guys Matix and Platt) changed the thinking away from revolvers. The military has only used semi-auto pistols since the Vietnam War. Interestingly, the Miami shootout was ended finally by agent Mireles with a 38 revolver shooting 158 grain hollow points. It a while ago, but not long enough to escape ready memory. Best to ya, FC Steve
+John Henry -- OK, that did happen with two of the competitions that I entered. There are days when the bullets seem to be wire guided...didn't happen often though... Happy Holidays to ya, FC
![PPC WA1500 - SR4 match of 48 shots with a standard 4 inch revolver [EN]](/img/n.gif)
Brings back great memories….thank you
I own a model 10-5 Smith & Wesson. Smithed by Bill Davis in 1978, still the smoothest action ever.
PPC is actually quite popular in europe, at least in Sweden, Norway and Germany.
+pblar1986 -- Thanks for that, another poster suggested I check out World 1500 and lo and behold, lots of videos on PPC in Europe - gotta check those all out...fum memories... Happy Holidays, FC
Just did my 1st one in Michigan. There is one every month. You can use autos as well just barrel length restrictions.
Nice set up FortuneCookie! Happy holidays to you and yours. Thanks for all your insights.
+dtom8888 -- Hey Dennis - Happy Holidays to ya...see ya round the galaxy...!! FC
Great video! It's nice to know the origins of the bullet board now: I just purchased an 8-shot Ruger SP101 in 22lr and was looking at speed loader options. One company is selling a speed loader and bullet board combo for the 22lr SP101. I think I'll buy it! I already own a 15 round spee-d-loader for my Remington 512P and Glenfield model 60, and was hoping they'd sell one that accommodates 8 rounds, but the closest sizes are 6 and 11 rounds. Seems like a bullet board and speed loader will be a better option!
Awesome. Thanks for sharing a very interesting video with us. I think many of us would love to shoot that ppc format. Great vid , thank you....
+Azvoltman - PPC is great fun. And you can set up your own matches. Even without barricades, shooting from positions at 25, 35 and prone at 50 yards gives shooters whole new experiences. Happy Holidays, FC
Great video, thanks! PPC is still popular around the world, but under the 'World Association 1500' banner. It is popular here in Australia with regular regional tournaments held.
+TehBr0 -- Thanks for your comment. Always great to hear from Australian friends..!! Hail to Australia..!! We've heard from the UK that it is popular there. I just checked out World 1500 and lo and behold - lots of PPC videos - going to have fun checking those out...Brings back the memories...Happy Holidays to ya, FC
So what kind of sight and rail system is on that Smith
What a sweet set up.....How about a review on the "Hog Leg"....Is that a modified S&W --K Frame?
+gman77gas -- Already did one featuring the gun...this video featured PPC. From what I hear, there are still some PPC matches here and there. Perhaps some interested shooters will start other matches. In the UK, PPC is still shot a fair amount - allows the competition shooters to keep their guns. Happy Holidays to ya, Gary -
+gman77gas - Just posted this in another reply and thought you might enjoy it -- I have a story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays to ya again, Steve
Hey thanks for the 9mm brass ;)
eXdXgXe4life You are welcome my friend....enjoy the time off....get to melting that lead!
PPC ( WA1500 its called here in Australia) is reasonably popular, Australia held the world championships in 2019 at Hilltop in NSW.
Used to be hugely popular in the UK before the handgun ban. Why did it fade out in the US ?
My understanding from my late grandfather was that the National Rifle Association decided that competitors must be sworn law enforcement officers back in the 1980's. This change in the rules prevented civilians from participating in PPC and is what led to increased interest in IDPA among American shooters.
Movies like "John Wick"
Casper's Cave Another difficulty is getting access to a fifty yard range on a regular basis. Nearly impossible in most places.
I would love to find a ppc match near me. Eastern WV . I like that shell board
It may still be popular in the US if non-police were allowed to shoot registered matches. Civilians can shoot club matches, but not any "real" matches. I found out the hard way. I shot several club matches and liked it. So I bought a full blown PPC revolver made by Jerry Keefer Custom. I was excited to shoot some larger matches and found out I was not eligable.
Nice setup, I've shot some USPSA and found it to be a lot of fun.
+Mr. Tolly (AKA: fatmantolly) - Continued good shootin' to ya in 2016..!! FC
I like that bullet board and that revolver very nice setup.i bet Dan wesson was a popular revolver for that type of shooting.
+scott grizzle -- Might sound surprising to you, but the other guns that were popular were Colt Pythons and Troopers - didn't see any Dan Wessons... Happy Holidays to ya, FC
FortuneCookie45LC, I wish PPC were more popular because it is a useful training tool and promotes good marksmanship. Specifically, I wish we would / could adopt some more PPC-like stages into USPSA, as it has moved toward a more speed based sport over the years. We tend to favor high round count stages with relatively close targets. Standards stages are not popular at our USPSA club matches, and good luck finding a PPC match around here as I’m not aware of any. Can we really call these trends progress?
I love the way the ppc revolvers look I want to own one but not pay a fortune
+xpallodoc -- Great comment, but the reverse is true. Used Bill Davis revolvers can be found for the price of a new gun. If you can find those in good shooting condition (and most are), you will have a treasure. The reason is because PPC is not that popular now and the gun is too heavy for any regular shooting...If one is rusty with the weight of the gun, it actually hampers accurate shooting until the shooter gets used to it. I have a story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays to ya, FC
FortuneCookie45LC that's a good story. Happy Holidays you really do have a treasure.
Cookie, I don't believe that PPC was done all in Vain. Like you said Bullseye and precision pistol shooting (Free pistol) is boring to watch. PPC brought the People to the Matches and put spectators on the sidelines. and Its not an easy thing to do or Master. (By the way, The Mod-66 you have is a beautiful custom gun made by a master of his skills, Bill Davis was a Top pistol smith). I think that is one of the nicest Pistols you have shown us of your Collection.
+Thorsaxe777 -- I thought I replied, but I must have missed posting it...Gads, first time that happened. Bill Davis had a shop in the East Bay Area and I visited it often - bought two guns from him along with all the leather and that bullet board. Also I bought 38 wadcutter PPC reloads from his shop 1000 in a box. Walking out of his shop lugging a couple of those boxes to the car each visit are pleasant memories. Almost every brass Winchester empty case I have came from all the reloads I bought there when I was competing. I also shot a lot of my own practice reloads to match the purchased ammo using those swaged HBWCs from Moulton's gun store. I wish that I had a closet full of those accurate bullets today as they were very good, greasy, but good - no one makes those anymore. Just shows how popular PPC was back in the 70s and 80s when revolvers ruled in law enforcement. Dirty Harry, with his big 44, and all the cop shows with their 38s saturated the media. When LE went to the autoloaders, the decline of PPC started as everyone switched over to the other action comps...Best of the Holidays to ya, FC
Like I said, Your Bill Davis Gun has all the Mystic of the Hans Solo Blaster. But it's not a Legend like some old conversation piece, that gun is a real tack driver and is precise in it's balance with all the work done to it. (Nice gun) and disserved all the rounds you put through it. I bet it is just as tight as the day you bought it. a testament to the pistol smith.
+Thorsaxe777 -- Absolutely. Bill Davis and his crew were fine gunsmiths and craftsmen.... This pistol is a testament to them and to the sport of PPC... I should shoot it more as the sheer weight of it is good training for pistol shooting... Best Regards to you for a fine 2016, FC
Nice! Lets have a better look at the revolver.
+Bob Kopchik - It's already in another video. I didn't shoot it as well as I remember as I had forgotten how heavy that gun is!! The sheer weight of it makes shooting it harder. But here is an interesting post that I just made that you might find interesting... I have a story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays, FC
Thanks for sharing that story. Happy Holidays to you as well!
We still shoot a modified version of this match in N.C.
WoW,sounds like fun.
+Dan Pisula -- Is a whole lot of fun - just saw some videos of PPC in Europe and brought back a lot of memories... here is something from another reply above you might find fun -- I have a story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays, FC
PPC is still popular in Sweden
+petfrogg -- Just saw some videos thanks to TehBr0 above...Happy Holidays to ya, FC
Too bad this fell to the wayside. Looks fun.
+Tregeta -- It was fun...we drew from the holster and fired 6 rounds at 7 yards on the B27, reloaded and fired another 6 in total of 20 seconds. Then we moved back to 15 yards and 25 yards and shot barricade right and left. Then some comps went to 35 yards before going to prone at 50 yards. Then everybody scored each others targets...was great fun. Could be shot with autoloaders also within the rules. It was precision target shooting like NRA Bullseye, but with practical implications. The comps morphed on for spectator and TV appeal. That came with knock down steel targets and movers while maintaining the necessity of precision shooting = Bianchi Cup - still one of the most prestigious of shooting events. Happy Holidays to ya, FC
I Bet, looking at that gun and having shot Wad Cutters, the recoil was probably non-existent ???
SWEET !!!
+Gerry K -- There is a small amount of recoil, but the heavy barrel weight brings the gun right back. And the slab side was to accommodate the barricade (although the clamping onto the barricade was not a technique we used - that came later). Happy Holidays to ya, FC
+Gerry K -- Just posted this in another reply and thought you might get a kick out of it (ha, ha pun..ha) - I have an old story about my Bill Davis gun... I was having a great day shooting and was taking out the 10 ring at 25 yards offhand practicing for a match. The young shooter next door was doing the spray with his girl friend or wife watching, and he said to her "If I had that gun, I'd shoot like that too". Young bravado buckaroo with a new gun, perhaps? (hmmm, I wasn't that old then was I...??) I took out another piece of loose paper making the hole in the 10 ring more of a perfect circle with my 6th shot as he said that, then looked at him, then her and smiled. I said to him, "It's a good gun." No, I didn't call his bluff and offer to let him shoot the revolver -- FortuneCookie Policy -- The young should shine and not be embarrassed. Happy Holidays to ya again, FC
+FortuneCookie45LC
Happy Holidays right back to ya !!
Was at the Range Yesterday and their were Two Revolver Guys, one on each side of me. They had Many different wheel guns with them. Both Guys Shot Everything Well !! One Better than the other and he was giving instruction to his friend. LESSON: A GOOD SHOOTER CAN SHOOT ANYTHING WELL !!!
+Gerry K -- You've noticed that as well. There are good shooters that shoot everything well. Now I am not one of those. Most of us, myself included, are always asking "How's the trigger on that gun?" We want the trigger that is crisp and sharp - breaks like "a glass rod". When you think about it, that trigger is a problem because it is predictable and we can jerk it since we know where it goes off - our subconscious mind might say "Now...(jerk)". The best trigger is a surprise break... if you think about it, an unpredictable trigger would be the best... a creepy trigger would have us just squeezing and squeezing until it goes off on the first, second, third...creeep... But we hate that because we think we can't shoot it well...the best shooters shoot all triggers the same - they just squeeze until it goes. And if the triggers are predictable, they might even shoot with the gun moving so that their minds already have the moving sights timed to cross on target just as the trigger breaks with their smooth press just like shotgun shooters breaking a clay bird...I call that the Dynamic Sight Picture and the Dynamic Trigger. Watch closely Hickok45 some time. Good shooters shoot either way Static and Dynamic and they might not even know it. Their minds do it, and they hit targets. These are trigger concepts you don't hear about on any video or from any firearms instructor, but are extremely advanced techniques - how else are the steel shooters able to hit 5 targets in 2 seconds from the leather? No way are they dead stopping on each target, they might even say they are. But it is practically impossible to dead stop and time the trigger to break at the stop before getting the gun moving again to dead stop and time the next break. Just as easy to smoothly break the trigger as the sights are crossing over the width of the plates perhaps with a delayed move - much more leeway that way then dead stop... and the bullets still hit near center for them because they have the talent and physical attributes. And yes, their triggers are light and crisp - they are making the gun go off when they want to - if they say they are shooting surprise breaks - that is splitting hairs (ha, har) on their part - their trigger presses are smooth, but so compressed in time that they are actually making the guns fire on demand. For the sake of argument, suppose you had a 1 oz trigger (or an electric trigger). It would go off on touch - try telling anyone that you are squeezing that...The reason I haven't done a video on this is - what's the point? Best to ya in 2016. FC
+FortuneCookie45LC
I shoot pretty good because I shot BB. & Pellet guns for most of my life. Because of that I Can Have Good Trigger Control !!! However, my reality is my good trigger control has been compromised due to Not Being Use To The Bang When A REAL GUN GOES OFF !!! I Need To Calm Myself About The Bang and Slow Down !!
DISCIPLINE !!!! I Need to Practice More Often !!! When I took my CCW course, my Instructor said I was a Natural !! Again, that's from Air Guns !!
I remember when LEOs use revolvers.
JOHN CLARK - Nowadays, LE needs to use what the bad guys are using (the Miami shootout 1986 FBI vs 2 bad guys Matix and Platt) changed the thinking away from revolvers. The military has only used semi-auto pistols since the Vietnam War. Interestingly, the Miami shootout was ended finally by agent Mireles with a 38 revolver shooting 158 grain hollow points. It a while ago, but not long enough to escape ready memory. Best to ya, FC Steve
FortuneCookie45LC I'm familiar I'm a LEO
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+John Henry -- OK, that did happen with two of the competitions that I entered. There are days when the bullets seem to be wire guided...didn't happen often though... Happy Holidays to ya, FC