This is what an honest salesman looks like. Millionaires and billionaires of the world, take notes. A lesser individual would be cutting the video left and right, making sure all of the pens are completely primed before writing with them, and only showing the best results possible all to eek out those few extra sales. Brian is up-front, realistic and most importantly honest about all of the products that he sells because he clearly cares about the people whom he's selling to. This kind of integrity is what modern-day business lacks so badly. The world needs more people like Brian Goulet.
Completely agree. I respect him for this. I've just received a Lamy 2000 from GP, imported here to the UK. My most expensive pen to date and a grail for me. I bought this from GP solely because of the honesty in their video about the sweet spot. I felt they were telling me what to expect and how to get the best from the pen. They equipped me and set my expectations. Had I not known this, I'd have been really irritated and would probably be complaining like hell. Instead I know what it does, why it does it and how to use it properly. Because of this education it has become an instant favourite for me. Off topic for flex nib discussions I know, but a good illustration of how a little honest integrity goes a long way.
I really enjoy Goulet TH-cam videos. I like that you didn't cover up any flow or railroading issues you had. This demonstration seemed very honest. I'll have to do a Goulet order soon just to show support for these great videos. I have a Falcon SE(SEF) but I might have to get an Ahab. It was my favorite of this bunch.
This is a great help as I want to learn more Copperplate calligraphy andIve got it down to the Noodlers Ahab or a Franken-pen Jinhao X750 with Zebra super flex. Im leaning towards the Ahab now. Thank goodness for TH-cam and another fab video guys.
I have never had much luck with the Zebra-G nib. It cuts up the paper like a lawnmower (due to lack of tipping ) and can be really finicky. Even when used as a dip pen, which I heard is the origin of that nib, it's too fussy. I like my Ahab but was surprised at how much pressure it requires. Doing that to a fountain pen sends me into a cold sweat which is why I would never dream of trying to flex a premium nib.
I second the other guys characterization of the G nib on the Jinhao. I purchased it set up for me from a pen guy in Spain. Though it was fun, the headache of the upkeep on it isn’t worth it. The nib needs to be removed when not in use to extend its life as the ink corrodes it. Even then, the life span on a nib is supposed to be roughly a month. Removal of it without ruining the feed was a NIGHTMARE. The writing is beautiful when it works. I love calligraphy, but I’d purchased it for my artwork. I legit couldn’t use it for that, it was too finicky unless used on good fountain pen paper. Ahab for me all the way.
I genuinely appreciate the honesty of this overviews honesty because seeing the ink flow issues better informs me during my purchasing. I shan't be buying any of these pens as a result and will stick with regular nibs until flex pens provide a more consistent experience. Thank you for the great video.
I bought a Noodler's Ahab Flex Pen and Noodler's Apache Sunset ink and figured out how to fill it (maybe) but the pen was a horror show, blobbing ink, making all kinds of strange noises. Then I watched two of your videos, took the pen all apart, had:nib feed, barrel, cap, etc. all on my desk in my inky fingers. I put it back together using your advice and it works great. Thank you Brian, I owe you one. I will have to buy stuff from your store. Normally I go for pens like the Sheaffer Snorkels and Parker 51's from the 1950's but the Noodlers Ahab, a Twisbi Eco, and Kaweco Sport are nicer writing pens.
Yeah, the Ahab isn't exactly the type of pen that's ready to write out of the box. That can be a big turn off for some, but if you tinker with it a bit (heatsetting the feed, etc), its a really enjoyable flex writer! - Colin
This video definitely filled a flex information void...or rather, put it all in one place. I'd love to see a Q&A on a topic like flex pens, flex vs stub nibs, or highly shading inks and supportive paper choices for them.
Thank you, for this. Brian. I have a wonderful vintage flex pen (Eversharp Skyline demi) and I am only now considering buying a non-vintage pen. This video gives me a lot to think about. your videos are very informative. I am a new customer of Goulet Pens and I am pleased with the one order I have placed so far. I can see how this hobby can be addictive. Thank you.
Magali G That's great Magali! I'm the opposite, I'm all modern and only have a few vintage pens :) Glad my info can be of good help to you, though. And I'm thrilled you're supporting my company, that's awesome :) -Brian Goulet
Hi Brian, thanks for making video! Thanks for the comparison. "Flessibile" in Italian is pronounced flays-SEE-bee-lay. :) (I wish they made a Neponset demonstrator.)
Can't wait until you get in the Pilot CH 912 with the FA nibs: amazing flex, super smooth, and doesn't require much pressure at all. Total game changer.
Hi Brian well done, so timely to have a video on these flex pens. They are definitely flavour of the month and growing in popularity daily. I've just this week had one of your Stipula Splash and so far it's the only flex nib to disappoint.When you review the Splash maybe could Drew join you and give us the benefit of his expertise? BTW your salesperson Madigan puts lovely flex writing on your invoices! I totally endorse previous comments that Pilot Custom Heritage 912 FA is KING and it would be so great if Goulet stocked it.
Would have been interesting to see a comparison with a vintage flex pen. You also omitted so many modern flexers, like the FPR pens, but I suppose you can't include every flex pen in the universe!
Hi Brian, I have watched a lot of sbrebrown's videos and he discusses the fact that today's flexpens cannot compete with yesteryears 14k nibs. Even today's 14k nibs are not in the same range of flex. He proved that by doing a number of writing samples and I have noticed this with my Waterman 452 1/2v. I kept wondering why that was -as people seem to desire flexpens and there would be some demand for them- and as someone experienced with metals I have a theory, but I wanted to ask someone in the pen business if I was correct. It is the other alloys in the nibs and not the gold that help to create the flex characteristics of the the vintage pens. Because they made pens on such a large scale, The vintage pen makers would have had special 14k alloys created to give the flexibility desired. Today's fountain pen industries are cottage industries, and gold is more expensive, so I doubt they would make enough pens to have the option to have specific alloys created for their purposes and would have to make do with the standard ones available. What do you think?
michelle tulumello It's really hard to say, this is actually starting to get outside my area of expertise. I'm not a flex expert or a vintage pen/history buff, so your guess is almost as good as mine. I think I would agree that modern flex pens just don't compete with vintage ones, but I really can't say why that might be. The alloy thing could be a factor, but I bet it has more to do with the way the nibs are ground. -Brian Goulet
I have had a fountain pen since I was 16. A Shaeffer Targa with 14kt. nib electroplated in 23kt. gold in a turtoishell laquer. I have not had any knowledge on how to "prime'" a finicky nib since starting to purchase more pens, my collection is at 13 right now. Only two have I purchased since my Targa have gold nibs: a Waterman Carene in a M nib , my 2nd baby. My Targa will always be my #1 baby, and is going in soon for a well needed restoration. I also have a "pockety" PilotE95S, with a M nib which is such a smooth writer. Are there videos on how to fix a fiddly nib?? I am clueless on maintenance of a fountain pen.
Hey, may I ask? 1) Are you familiar with Hongdian Black Forest? 2) I have such a writing style that my characters require thick upstrokes and thin downstrokes. I want to write with a fountain pen. Are there are special flex nibs for this or maybe there is a spexial method of using usual flex nibs but with a different orientation, angle etc...?
With dip pens, a sometimes cause of railroading is an ink that is too thin -- the sheet of ink between the flexed tines breaks too easily. Maybe the slightly thicker X-feather will help with the railroading provided the feed keeps up the flow? (I haven't tested it. Just a thought.)
Yes x-feather is definitely one of the best for flex nibs from my experience. Some others that perform well with flex are the Waterman, Mont Blanc and Monte Verde ink ranges.
Yeah, Noodler's Black is definitely not one of the most exciting flex inks to use, but if I'd had to clean them all out and ink them back up this vid probably wouldn't have happened at all! -Brian Goulet
The Goulet Pen Company You have a point there. Since we are in the subject, I was thinking that if Apache Sunset is the champion for shading, Diamine Majestic Blue is the champion for sheen. My god, it's like writing with two colors :)
Nice. Did you consider including vintage flex? My daily carry is a Waterman 52 & it is so soft & easy to write with. I have not tinkered with the nib yet. Like all flex pens, it will rail road, is sensitive to type of ink & needs to be cleaned more often. The size is good. When I use a larger pen after the 52, I find it not as comfortable. Write on...
I can't even touch this, because I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to vintage flex. I have a Waterman 52 and Mabie Todd Swan, and both are not as flexible as a Noodler's Ahab. If I came out with a blanket statement saying that, I'd probably be tar and feathered! The tough thing about vintage is there are SO many factors regarding the amount of flex, most of all probably being how much the pens were used over the years (how broken in the nibs were), which is impossible to judge. So yeah, I will just leave vintage stuff alone. -Brian Goulet
Frank & earnest as ever, Brian (there's a Samuel L Jackson quote in there somewhere ;D ). In regard to the two Noodler's models, I have both, & they're constantly having to be re-engineered; OK, not the most expensive of writing implements, but admittedly, I always have to think twice before inking either of them up; true too, that pricier scribes do not guarantee excellent performance - tho' at $500.00 (US) that's rather disappointing. When all else fails, I reach for one of my dip pens - there, at least, I know what to expect. Thank you very much for the overview !! :D
The writing experience is very similar in my experience. Both offering a soft nib, but not a true flex that you might see from a vintage pen. It does keep up with the ink flow easily though so not many hard starts or railroading. Can't go wrong with either pen! - Colin
Mr. Goulet, this is a very appreciated video. Thank you very much! I`ve got to say, that the Stipula pen is quite disappointing. Though I think that including the FA nibs in Custom 912, 742, 743 or the Justus 95 would have made this video better. Just curious. When are you going to have the Noodler`s Neponset in stock?
Whats the name of the notebook you are using here? I know its a Rhodia (Obviously), and it's a dotted, top bound version. i can't seem to find a product to match up what this looks like here....
It's the Rhodia No. 16 notebooks (www.gouletpens.com/rhodia-notebooks/c/248/?sortBy=productName%2Basc&facetValueFilter=Tenant~Ruling_Type%3Adot_grid%2CTenant~Overall_Size%3Aa5). The black is currently out of stock, but orange is what I use and it's awesome. - Colin
i normally use a dip pen for copperplate, but it would be nice to get fountain pens if they can achieve the same effect. which pen / nib in your opinion, comes closest to that thick-thin contrast please? is there a frugal version? thanks.
@Goulet I am not really a user of Fountain pens, since I do not write much on paper now days. Either way, the second pen where you mentioned it was a japanese product with a thinner line etcetra. I was wondering, in the future... If you come across pens like these, that you pull out Chinese/korean/Japanese characters to try replicate them with said pens since I reckon these type of pens work a LOT better with this sort of writing language rather than Latin alphabet. I just felt like this type of writing comparison may present some of the pens in a better fashion toward said languages.
That's definitely a valid point and something to consider for sure. Might have to send Brian to a class or two to write some of those characters. - Colin
Flex pens aren't especially suited to Chinese characters, but they're fun enough. Unlike Latin letters they have upstrokes that might want to be thick, so a brush is a lot more expressive. In general a brush is more suitable if you're interested in calligraphy. My comment on the video is that actually the Pilot Falcon is a little stiff too, when compared with the infamous FA nib. As for railroading in flex pens, you just have to respect you're not using ink meant for this purpose and stay within the limits of the ink. Brian might write a bit heavy, because the Falcon EF can give a much finer line than that. In anycase, I think most people who lust for a flex fountain pen would be way happier with a brush pen, where you can make the line as thick as you please. You will spend a lot less and still be able to use your FP inks.
Haha I know! My bottle of Noodler's Black is low, so I was touching the rim of the bottle with each pen I was filling, hence the excessively inky fingers ;) -Brian Goulet
I am going to get (my first) fountain pen. I have been doing a lot of research and it is between the noodler's Ahab and the Lamy Vista. which do you recommend for a beginner to fountain pens, but a veteran with ink products. You should take not that I would use this for art, and that I am skilled with a brush pen.
+Artseytips It all depends on whether you want a flex nib or not! The Ahab requires some tinkering but is great for creating art. If you want something with an EF, M or B nib, go with the Vista. Hope that helps :) -Margaret
AWESOME VID! So happy you posted! I've been wanting to get into Flex pens! Quick question: I'm leaning towards the Ahab but the Konrad looks great too! Which one would you recommend? I know they're both so similar with the same #6 nib. Hard to choose?
Which pen do you suggest between Noodler's Ahab and Pilot Metal Falcon Soft Fine(Not the EF)? Especially as an EDC pen, which one would you choose between these two?
For an everyday carry, I definitely recommend the Pilot Falcon. You may not get as extreme flexing as the Ahab, but it's a way more consistent writer and is less of a headache in general than the Noodler's pens. - Colin
We don't have any videos currently, but the Pen Habit has a good one with writing samples here: th-cam.com/video/VJBcrGLmciY/w-d-xo.html . Hope to update this flex comparison here soon! - Colin
I suggest to add some cuts to the ebonite feed of the Neposet if you want to use as it an extreme flex pen. At the beginning the one i got had a very good flow if not flexed, but once flexed it always started to run dry. Now, after the feed modification,it is a truly flex monster!!@.@
I couldn't care less about how much variation it gets. What's important is how easily they flex. A flex nib should flex on every downstroke in normal writing. Which nib more closely comes to that standard? If we have to consciously apply pressure it isn't work having.
ust subscribed here; good video. I just bought my 1st fountain pen, its a Jinhao Nature Rose Wood Fountain Pen Bent Nib(Fine to Broad Size) , Fude Pen. I'm a cartoonist / illustrator / sketcher; so I need a as much of a variant line with, as possible ; and that flows as smooth as non skipping as possible, too. Did I pick the correct pen for filling this need? Would the Noodler Neponset (with a music flex nib); work for me better for sketching?
Haven't seen fude nibs like that utilized too often when it comes to sketching, but in terms of line variation, it's a decent choice. The Neponset is a very wet writer, going from broad to like triple broad when flexed, so it's not a good option if looking for detailed work. Stub nibs might be a good option as well, thin on certain strokes and thick on others! - Colin
+Nikxo A The Pilot Falcon is a soft nib, meaning you can get a bit of line variation, but we wouldn't call it a true flex nib. You can definitely use it in day to day life. -Margaret
+The Goulet Pen Company i was just going through noodler's ahab on your website. I found it pretty impressive.which is best known ink for this pen? this is my first time experience with flex pens. so kinda getting scared.
Quick question from a fountain pen noob: is the Piilot Elabo and the Pilot Falcon the same pen with regional naming differences? Or are they completely different models? Thanks
+Casio FX-plus It's the same pen, just a different name based on region. You can see the Pilot Falcon here: www.gouletpens.com/pilot-falcon/c/198 - Colin
+The Goulet Pen Company Wow, a sub-30 minute response which clears up a lot of confusion -- thanks a bunch! I've just ordered some ink from your store, and I'll be sure to return in a couple of weeks when I can afford a new Falcon :)
Hello, sorry for bothering you with such issues but I'm just a student and such an investment means a lot to me. A pen like this is a "lifetime investment". I have been following your channel for a very long time and I have watched most of your reviews regarding flex nib fountain pens. Today please help me to choose 1 between these two. For me the doubts are, 1) 912 FA is a bit scratchy if even a little amount of oil is on the paper. How big of a problem is this 2) I couldn't totally be sure if the line variation of M1000 is the same as that of 912 FA. Please let me know your thoughts. 3) Is the extra investment for M1000 really worth it? Please help me.
Those are very different pens! If you'd like to discuss pen shopping, send us an email and we'll be happy to help! The TH-cam comments section isn't ideal for this sort of thing - I'm sure you understand! - Drew
Wahl Eversharp Flexable #2 - Diamine Mediterranean Blue Pilot Custom 74 SFM - Levenger True teal FPR Flex -Noodler Gruene Cactus eel Noodler Konrad - Noodler Coctus Fruit eel Hunt 99 -Walnut Ink Crystals can anyone comment any of the above? the noodler is a 'true' flex whereas the rest are semi flex right
In terms of a broader line variation, that would definitely work. I think he wanted to show off how EF the Falcon could get vs. Noodler's pens, rather than matching. Looking on our Nib Nook (www.gouletpens.com/nib-comparison-tool ), Soft Broad is closer the amount of ink Noodler's pens can lay down. - Colin
They should both be pretty similar. Takes some pressure to flex them both out, but the Neponset is such a wet writer it seems like you don't need to. - Colin
Hi Brian! I have a question: What ink brands/colors/types are best for flex pens? I already have a Noodler's ink that I know is good, so I'm looking for other brands. Also, I'm a fan of your videos, and I want to thank you for showing me these flex pens. Looking into getting one!
Excellent, informative video Brian, thank you. By now I thought that the flex pen craze would have run out of steam, which just goes to show what I know. ;-) It still baffles me a bit though, that people get so exercised about line variation - unless there's a parallel fashion for fountain pen copperplate which has escaped my attention.
Oh, I don't think flex is anywhere near capped out, you'd be amazed how many people still have no idea about it! I expect a lot more excitement around them, especially as more manufacturers are making pens that flex. -Brian Goulet
The Goulet Pen Company You know the market inside out Brian ... going by online reviews and the forums I'd just assumed that baby's bottom syndrome was the new "must have". Joking aside, the launch of the Neponset is bound to make flex a hot topic again.
Great video , will definitely get the noodlers. I have a question, if anyone can help out I would appreciate it. I like the noodlers Ahab a lot but not sure about the flex nib. I think you mentioned The nibs you sell on gouletpens.com would fit the Ahab. What size nib would you recommend? Thank you for your time.
Yeah, the Ahab is a #6 nib so it technically can fit on other pens (Jinhao/Conklin/Monteverde), that said, the feeds are designed to keep up with flex writing so you may have flow issues. - Colin
I’ve been wondering, why does it seem like there are no modern equivalents to vintage flex? Are there forgotten manufacturing techniques, materials, etc?
Brian actually tackles this exactly in a previous Q&A (th-cam.com/video/bJz30biGcRc/w-d-xo.html ). Basically, the demand hasn't been there recently to justify the investment in machinery and such. - Colin
+slyveonlover234 lolzaj (sylveonlover234) I am only 14 too and you should definitely use the Pilot metropolitan. It is a great starter fountain pen. I ordered from Goulet pens and their service is great. I got my pen in just two days.
+slyveonlover234 lolzaj (sylveonlover234) I agree with what Andres said. The Metropolitan was my first fountain pen, and it still writes perfectly. Couldn't recommend it enough! - Colin
I would get the captions adjusted there is a point where they are saying things I know aren't what you are saying (but may make you chuckle given how off message it is) @ 1:20 mark. I apologize if this isn't the place you would have wanted me to put this message, i couldn't figure out where would be better. PS: Looking forward to the DC PEN SHOW!!!!
Yeah, the Google auto-captioning system is not great. We'd love to have all the captions be accurate, but we just don't have the bandwidth for someone to do that on 1000+ videos. Thanks for bringing this to our attention though! Be sure to say hi to Brian and Rachel at the show. :) - Colin
Last we heard it was coming back. A pen manufacturer in Italy purchased Omas machinery & stock. They were trying to sell out all the old stock before starting production again. This news is from August 2016, so not sure if that's still the case. But definitely a step in the right direction of good news. - Colin
@Goulet Have you considered making a video of entry flex pens? or a flex/soft nibs for other common pens,. I wish to enter into handwriting cursive letters for my relatives and special one. so I think there should be some entry nibs or pens to look for this effect. on the ohter hand have you considered making a list for foreigners on where to look for correct prices and shiping and availability of pens., Some of your watchers are not in the U.S,. I am from Mexico and I wish if you considered us on your recommendations,. I wanna get more into fountain pens but my geographical pov some times makes it a little troublesome not only for pens, but inks and nibs even paper. greetings love your videos.
We have a pretty comprehensive video on Flex pens here: th-cam.com/video/XQyUUONaIcw/w-d-xo.html It's good for both beginners and those who want to try other flex options. Well, you can buy all the things we show in our videos on our site, and we ship to Mexico. Not sure we want to be promoting other places to buy these products when you can get them from us... - Colin
thank you for your proper and fast reply,. I'm glad you ship here. my only concern is shipping price but I wanna make it worth it,. Thank you for these videos they are lovely.
+The Goulet Pen Company hey man! I'm getting into fountain pens a lot!One thing I wonder is are you afraid of scratching the back of your pens when you put the lid on? I have OCD about that.Please reply😉
This is what an honest salesman looks like. Millionaires and billionaires of the world, take notes. A lesser individual would be cutting the video left and right, making sure all of the pens are completely primed before writing with them, and only showing the best results possible all to eek out those few extra sales. Brian is up-front, realistic and most importantly honest about all of the products that he sells because he clearly cares about the people whom he's selling to. This kind of integrity is what modern-day business lacks so badly. The world needs more people like Brian Goulet.
Completely agree. I respect him for this. I've just received a Lamy 2000 from GP, imported here to the UK. My most expensive pen to date and a grail for me. I bought this from GP solely because of the honesty in their video about the sweet spot. I felt they were telling me what to expect and how to get the best from the pen. They equipped me and set my expectations. Had I not known this, I'd have been really irritated and would probably be complaining like hell. Instead I know what it does, why it does it and how to use it properly. Because of this education it has become an instant favourite for me. Off topic for flex nib discussions I know, but a good illustration of how a little honest integrity goes a long way.
Billionaires of the world, take note: this man hampers his own sales, don't invest in him. That's what they'll hear.
Brian is the man, modeling integrity and honesty. it makes me happy supporting his shop, where I cant wait to buy a noadlers ahob ;)
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@@CliftonBullard I like mine, although I mostly use a Monteverde Innova, and just yesterday I got my first gold nib pen, a Pilot Vanishing Point.
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I really enjoy Goulet TH-cam videos. I like that you didn't cover up any flow or railroading issues you had. This demonstration seemed very honest. I'll have to do a Goulet order soon just to show support for these great videos. I have a Falcon SE(SEF) but I might have to get an Ahab. It was my favorite of this bunch.
+Junkyard Sam Thanks for watching! We definitely strive to be honest in all of our reviews :) -Margaret
Junkyard Sam Just so you know, it smells unpleasant.
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Where can I buy the Noadler's Ahob? ; )
That's a Goulet exclusive ;) -Brian Goulet
If you are india buy kanwrite pen any model with flex nib. Ahab is made by kanwrite
That's for showing the uncut real writing experience with these pens. Certainly appreciated.
Last day I told me friend who live in USA to buy a Ahab and Ink. Your VDO made me confident in it.
(I am in Thailand)
This is a great help as I want to learn more Copperplate calligraphy andIve got it down to the Noodlers Ahab or a Franken-pen Jinhao X750 with Zebra super flex. Im leaning towards the Ahab now. Thank goodness for TH-cam and another fab video guys.
I have never had much luck with the Zebra-G nib. It cuts up the paper like a lawnmower (due to lack of tipping ) and can be really finicky. Even when used as a dip pen, which I heard is the origin of that nib, it's too fussy. I like my Ahab but was surprised at how much pressure it requires. Doing that to a fountain pen sends me into a cold sweat which is why I would never dream of trying to flex a premium nib.
I second the other guys characterization of the G nib on the Jinhao. I purchased it set up for me from a pen guy in Spain. Though it was fun, the headache of the upkeep on it isn’t worth it. The nib needs to be removed when not in use to extend its life as the ink corrodes it. Even then, the life span on a nib is supposed to be roughly a month. Removal of it without ruining the feed was a NIGHTMARE. The writing is beautiful when it works. I love calligraphy, but I’d purchased it for my artwork. I legit couldn’t use it for that, it was too finicky unless used on good fountain pen paper.
Ahab for me all the way.
I just recently got into fountain pens and I'm enjoying it very much all because of your amazing videos thank you :)))
Thanks David, glad you found your way to us and you're enjoying fountain pens now! - Colin
I genuinely appreciate the honesty of this overviews honesty because seeing the ink flow issues better informs me during my purchasing. I shan't be buying any of these pens as a result and will stick with regular nibs until flex pens provide a more consistent experience. Thank you for the great video.
Great video! I really enjoy when you present pen comparisons. It really helps me understand what I want in my next pen. Cheers!
I bought a Noodler's Ahab Flex Pen and Noodler's Apache Sunset ink and figured out how to fill it (maybe) but the pen was a horror show, blobbing ink, making all kinds of strange noises. Then I watched two of your videos, took the pen all apart, had:nib feed, barrel, cap, etc. all on my desk in my inky fingers. I put it back together using your advice and it works great. Thank you Brian, I owe you one. I will have to buy stuff from your store. Normally I go for pens like the Sheaffer Snorkels and Parker 51's from the 1950's but the Noodlers Ahab, a Twisbi Eco, and Kaweco Sport are nicer writing pens.
Yeah, the Ahab isn't exactly the type of pen that's ready to write out of the box. That can be a big turn off for some, but if you tinker with it a bit (heatsetting the feed, etc), its a really enjoyable flex writer! - Colin
This video definitely filled a flex information void...or rather, put it all in one place. I'd love to see a Q&A on a topic like flex pens, flex vs stub nibs, or highly shading inks and supportive paper choices for them.
That's a good idea! I'll keep that in mind -Brian Goulet
Thank you, for this. Brian. I have a wonderful vintage flex pen (Eversharp Skyline demi) and I am only now considering buying a non-vintage pen. This video gives me a lot to think about. your videos are very informative. I am a new customer of Goulet Pens and I am pleased with the one order I have placed so far. I can see how this hobby can be addictive. Thank you.
Magali G That's great Magali! I'm the opposite, I'm all modern and only have a few vintage pens :) Glad my info can be of good help to you, though. And I'm thrilled you're supporting my company, that's awesome :) -Brian Goulet
Fantastic video thank you Brian (gotta get me one of those Noadlers Ahobs before they sell out ;-))
They're a Goulet exclusive! ;) -Brian Goulet
The Goulet Pen Company Sweeeet ;-)
Thanks for the comparison! I appreciate how you helped to explain the allusions that expensive pens are always better is not always correct.
It really helps me understand what I want in my next pen..amazing
Hi Brian, thanks for making video! Thanks for the comparison.
"Flessibile" in Italian is pronounced flays-SEE-bee-lay. :)
(I wish they made a Neponset demonstrator.)
Great video Brian. Love the honesty!
Just trying to be real! -Brian Goulet
@@Gouletpens yeah i know right- pizzaman
Can't wait until you get in the Pilot CH 912 with the FA nibs: amazing flex, super smooth, and doesn't require much pressure at all. Total game changer.
I've tried this but still not really full flex
Hi Brian well done, so timely to have a video on these flex pens. They are definitely flavour of the month and growing in popularity daily. I've just this week had one of your Stipula Splash and so far it's the only flex nib to disappoint.When you review the Splash maybe could Drew join you and give us the benefit of his expertise? BTW your salesperson Madigan puts lovely flex writing on your invoices! I totally endorse previous comments that Pilot Custom Heritage 912 FA is KING and it would be so great if Goulet stocked it.
We will be stocking the Custom 912 in FA! It should actually be here in just a week or two :) -Brian Goulet
I’m so happy with my Lamy All Star in Vibrant Pink....I haven’t used a cartridge pen in 55 years or more.....It’s so easy to use and it feels great.
great video! very informative for choosing the best flex nib pens.
Would have been interesting to see a comparison with a vintage flex pen. You also omitted so many modern flexers, like the FPR pens, but I suppose you can't include every flex pen in the universe!
Noodlers Ahob is unbeatable for the price. It's also the one who prints best
you mean Noadler's Ahob
The video is great --- the subtitles are hysterical! :)
This is wonderful! Thank you a lot for this video, Brian! :D
Hi Brian,
I have watched a lot of sbrebrown's videos and he discusses the fact that today's flexpens cannot compete with yesteryears 14k nibs. Even today's 14k nibs are not in the same range of flex. He proved that by doing a number of writing samples and I have noticed this with my Waterman 452 1/2v. I kept wondering why that was -as people seem to desire flexpens and there would be some demand for them- and as someone experienced with metals I have a theory, but I wanted to ask someone in the pen business if I was correct.
It is the other alloys in the nibs and not the gold that help to create the flex characteristics of the the vintage pens. Because they made pens on such a large scale, The vintage pen makers would have had special 14k alloys created to give the flexibility desired. Today's fountain pen industries are cottage industries, and gold is more expensive, so I doubt they would make enough pens to have the option to have specific alloys created for their purposes and would have to make do with the standard ones available. What do you think?
michelle tulumello It's really hard to say, this is actually starting to get outside my area of expertise. I'm not a flex expert or a vintage pen/history buff, so your guess is almost as good as mine. I think I would agree that modern flex pens just don't compete with vintage ones, but I really can't say why that might be. The alloy thing could be a factor, but I bet it has more to do with the way the nibs are ground. -Brian Goulet
Maybe it's because the vintage pens are older and have been used more. I don't think gold work hardens the same as other metals.
i'm facing issue of Railroading while writing with Ultra Flex Nib... how to rectify it?
Noadler's Ahob, I like it.
Thank you so much for making a video like this. Ill be getting the noodlers Ahab very soon.
Faiz Sabir Glad it was helpful :) -Margaret
this is a great demo review i bought the ahab pen i'm only just learning about flex pens now which is what i have wanted all along for drawing
Yeah, they're a lot of fun to draw with, just takes a lot of time & practice to really master it. - Colin
I have had a fountain pen since I was 16. A Shaeffer Targa with 14kt. nib electroplated in 23kt. gold in a turtoishell laquer.
I have not had any knowledge on how to "prime'" a finicky nib since starting to purchase more pens, my collection is at 13 right now.
Only two have I purchased since my Targa have gold nibs: a Waterman Carene in a M nib , my 2nd baby.
My Targa will always be my #1 baby, and is going in soon for a well needed restoration.
I also have a "pockety" PilotE95S, with a M nib which is such a smooth writer.
Are there videos on how to fix a fiddly nib?? I am clueless on maintenance of a fountain pen.
Ty, that was really useful. Are there any other entry level flex pens, like the Ahab, that write with the Falcon type thinner line?
Sounds like the "Ahab" and the "Neponset" are the best value for money.
I would go with the ahab, especially in the Cardinal red design. Although, I wish they had the Ahab in the red rebellion design.
Hey, may I ask?
1) Are you familiar with Hongdian Black Forest?
2) I have such a writing style that my characters require thick upstrokes and thin downstrokes. I want to write with a fountain pen. Are there are special flex nibs for this or maybe there is a spexial method of using usual flex nibs but with a different orientation, angle etc...?
Is there a pen that I can switch bind? flex to stuff? I am watching all your vids to make a decision on my first pen.
With dip pens, a sometimes cause of railroading is an ink that is too thin -- the sheet of ink between the flexed tines breaks too easily. Maybe the slightly thicker X-feather will help with the railroading provided the feed keeps up the flow? (I haven't tested it. Just a thought.)
Yes x-feather is definitely one of the best for flex nibs from my experience. Some others that perform well with flex are the Waterman, Mont Blanc and Monte Verde ink ranges.
Yeah, this is definitely one of the better inks to try! Heart of Darkness is also good -Brian Goulet
This video begs for Apache Sunset :)
Yeah, Noodler's Black is definitely not one of the most exciting flex inks to use, but if I'd had to clean them all out and ink them back up this vid probably wouldn't have happened at all! -Brian Goulet
The Goulet Pen Company You have a point there. Since we are in the subject, I was thinking that if Apache Sunset is the champion for shading, Diamine Majestic Blue is the champion for sheen. My god, it's like writing with two colors :)
Nice. Did you consider including vintage flex? My daily carry is a Waterman 52 & it is so soft & easy to write with. I have not tinkered with the nib yet. Like all flex pens, it will rail road, is sensitive to type of ink & needs to be cleaned more often. The size is good. When I use a larger pen after the 52, I find it not as comfortable. Write on...
I can't even touch this, because I don't know what I'm doing when it comes to vintage flex. I have a Waterman 52 and Mabie Todd Swan, and both are not as flexible as a Noodler's Ahab. If I came out with a blanket statement saying that, I'd probably be tar and feathered! The tough thing about vintage is there are SO many factors regarding the amount of flex, most of all probably being how much the pens were used over the years (how broken in the nibs were), which is impossible to judge. So yeah, I will just leave vintage stuff alone. -Brian Goulet
Frank & earnest as ever, Brian (there's a Samuel L Jackson quote in there somewhere ;D ). In regard to the two Noodler's models, I have both, & they're constantly having to be re-engineered; OK, not the most expensive of writing implements, but admittedly, I always have to think twice before inking either of them up; true too, that pricier scribes do not guarantee excellent performance - tho' at $500.00 (US) that's rather disappointing. When all else fails, I reach for one of my dip pens - there, at least, I know what to expect. Thank you very much for the overview !! :D
Looks like the Ahab is going to be my first flex!
Can a lefthanded person which is overwriting use a flexpen?
hello sir , which is best for flex ? is falcon or 912 FA by Pilot ?
The writing experience is very similar in my experience. Both offering a soft nib, but not a true flex that you might see from a vintage pen. It does keep up with the ink flow easily though so not many hard starts or railroading. Can't go wrong with either pen! - Colin
Mr. Goulet, this is a very appreciated video. Thank you very much!
I`ve got to say, that the Stipula pen is quite disappointing.
Though I think that including the FA nibs in Custom 912, 742, 743 or the Justus 95 would have made this video better.
Just curious. When are you going to have the Noodler`s Neponset in stock?
Whats the name of the notebook you are using here? I know its a Rhodia (Obviously), and it's a dotted, top bound version. i can't seem to find a product to match up what this looks like here....
It's the Rhodia No. 16 notebooks (www.gouletpens.com/rhodia-notebooks/c/248/?sortBy=productName%2Basc&facetValueFilter=Tenant~Ruling_Type%3Adot_grid%2CTenant~Overall_Size%3Aa5). The black is currently out of stock, but orange is what I use and it's awesome. - Colin
i normally use a dip pen for copperplate, but it would be nice to get fountain pens if they can achieve the same effect. which pen / nib in your opinion, comes closest to that thick-thin contrast please? is there a frugal version? thanks.
Definitely check out the Noodler's Ahab (www.gouletpens.com/noodlers-ahab-flex-pens/c/140). For under $25, it offers great flex in the nib. - Colin
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I am not really a user of Fountain pens, since I do not write much on paper now days. Either way, the second pen where you mentioned it was a japanese product with a thinner line etcetra. I was wondering, in the future...
If you come across pens like these, that you pull out Chinese/korean/Japanese characters to try replicate them with said pens since I reckon these type of pens work a LOT better with this sort of writing language rather than Latin alphabet. I just felt like this type of writing comparison may present some of the pens in a better fashion toward said languages.
That's definitely a valid point and something to consider for sure. Might have to send Brian to a class or two to write some of those characters. - Colin
jisho.org :D
Flex pens aren't especially suited to Chinese characters, but they're fun enough. Unlike Latin letters they have upstrokes that might want to be thick, so a brush is a lot more expressive. In general a brush is more suitable if you're interested in calligraphy.
My comment on the video is that actually the Pilot Falcon is a little stiff too, when compared with the infamous FA nib. As for railroading in flex pens, you just have to respect you're not using ink meant for this purpose and stay within the limits of the ink. Brian might write a bit heavy, because the Falcon EF can give a much finer line than that. In anycase, I think most people who lust for a flex fountain pen would be way happier with a brush pen, where you can make the line as thick as you please. You will spend a lot less and still be able to use your FP inks.
What if we use pilot hi tech point ink in a regular fountain pen?
It looks like you were changing the oil in your car, I only have ink on 3 fingers today but it is 2 different colours :)
Haha I know! My bottle of Noodler's Black is low, so I was touching the rim of the bottle with each pen I was filling, hence the excessively inky fingers ;) -Brian Goulet
I am going to get (my first) fountain pen. I have been doing a lot of research and it is between the noodler's Ahab and the Lamy Vista. which do you recommend for a beginner to fountain pens, but a veteran with ink products. You should take not that I would use this for art, and that I am skilled with a brush pen.
+Artseytips It all depends on whether you want a flex nib or not! The Ahab requires some tinkering but is great for creating art. If you want something with an EF, M or B nib, go with the Vista. Hope that helps :) -Margaret
+The Goulet Pen Company thank you!!!:)
AWESOME VID! So happy you posted! I've been wanting to get into Flex pens! Quick question: I'm leaning towards the Ahab but the Konrad looks great too! Which one would you recommend? I know they're both so similar with the same #6 nib. Hard to choose?
Which pen do you suggest between Noodler's Ahab and Pilot Metal Falcon Soft Fine(Not the EF)? Especially as an EDC pen, which one would you choose between these two?
For an everyday carry, I definitely recommend the Pilot Falcon. You may not get as extreme flexing as the Ahab, but it's a way more consistent writer and is less of a headache in general than the Noodler's pens. - Colin
@@Gouletpens Thanks a lot, Colin, for this suggestion.
have you done any reviews on Mechanical Pencil. I got both the Graphgear 1000 pencils and Rotring rapid pro pen & pencil
No, we don't carry pencils in our store so we have no products to. talk about! Thanks for watching, all the same! - Drew
@@Gouletpens didn't like writing much until 2 decades ago and fountain pens more recently thanks for making the video
How did you "set" the neponset? I just got mine and have been having some problems
Here's a video that shows you how to heat set the ebonite feed: th-cam.com/video/9rhfXcBoM_Q/w-d-xo.html - Colin
Do you have any videos with the famed Aurora 88?
We don't have any videos currently, but the Pen Habit has a good one with writing samples here: th-cam.com/video/VJBcrGLmciY/w-d-xo.html . Hope to update this flex comparison here soon! - Colin
I suggest to add some cuts to the ebonite feed of the Neposet if you want to use as it an extreme flex pen. At the beginning the one i got had a very good flow if not flexed, but once flexed it always started to run dry. Now, after the feed modification,it is a truly flex monster!!@.@
Does the Neponset have a music nib? I think I saw 3 tines on the nib there.
Yes it does :) -Lydia
I couldn't care less about how much variation it gets. What's important is how easily they flex. A flex nib should flex on every downstroke in normal writing. Which nib more closely comes to that standard? If we have to consciously apply pressure it isn't work having.
Gotta get me a Noadler's Ahob! ;)
***** Yes, the Ahab is a great one to pick up! -Margaret
ust subscribed here; good video. I just bought my 1st fountain pen, its a Jinhao Nature Rose Wood Fountain Pen Bent Nib(Fine to Broad Size) , Fude Pen.
I'm a cartoonist / illustrator / sketcher; so I need a as much of a variant line with, as possible ; and that flows as smooth as non skipping as possible, too. Did I pick the correct pen for filling this need? Would the Noodler Neponset (with a music flex nib); work for me better for sketching?
Haven't seen fude nibs like that utilized too often when it comes to sketching, but in terms of line variation, it's a decent choice. The Neponset is a very wet writer, going from broad to like triple broad when flexed, so it's not a good option if looking for detailed work. Stub nibs might be a good option as well, thin on certain strokes and thick on others! - Colin
@@Gouletpens Thank you, Colin for your insight; I will keep what you've said in mind.
hey even pilot falcon has flex nib right?is it ok to use in writing calligraphy,or can we use it in day to day life?
+Nikxo A The Pilot Falcon is a soft nib, meaning you can get a bit of line variation, but we wouldn't call it a true flex nib. You can definitely use it in day to day life. -Margaret
+The Goulet Pen Company i was just going through noodler's ahab on your website. I found it pretty impressive.which is best known ink for this pen? this is my first time experience with flex pens. so kinda getting scared.
This is a tongue in check comment, but How would these flex pens look if they were flexed when writing?
Interesting review...thank you...
Looking for a pocket size pen with a soft flex however to no avail...are there any out there available ?
Hmm, not that I can think of at the moment. -Margaret
Was the nib on the pilot falcon the gold fine/soft one, or the rhodium one?
+ＸＺＥ ＦＹＲ It was the 14kt gold nib that has rhodium plating to give it that silver color, so...both? haha - Colin
Quick question from a fountain pen noob: is the Piilot Elabo and the Pilot Falcon the same pen with regional naming differences? Or are they completely different models?
Thanks
+Casio FX-plus It's the same pen, just a different name based on region. You can see the Pilot Falcon here: www.gouletpens.com/pilot-falcon/c/198 - Colin
+The Goulet Pen Company Wow, a sub-30 minute response which clears up a lot of confusion -- thanks a bunch! I've just ordered some ink from your store, and I'll be sure to return in a couple of weeks when I can afford a new Falcon :)
8:45 what is going on around the nib?
Hello, sorry for bothering you with such issues but I'm just a student and such an investment means a lot to me. A pen like this is a "lifetime investment". I have been following your channel for a very long time and I have watched most of your reviews regarding flex nib fountain pens. Today please help me to choose 1 between these two. For me the doubts are,
1) 912 FA is a bit scratchy if even a little amount of oil is on the paper. How big of a problem is this
2) I couldn't totally be sure if the line variation of M1000 is the same as that of 912 FA. Please let me know your thoughts.
3) Is the extra investment for M1000 really worth it?
Please help me.
Those are very different pens! If you'd like to discuss pen shopping, send us an email and we'll be happy to help! The TH-cam comments section isn't ideal for this sort of thing - I'm sure you understand! - Drew
Wahl Eversharp Flexable #2 - Diamine Mediterranean Blue
Pilot Custom 74 SFM - Levenger True teal
FPR Flex -Noodler Gruene Cactus eel
Noodler Konrad - Noodler Coctus Fruit eel
Hunt 99 -Walnut Ink Crystals
can anyone comment any of the above? the noodler is a 'true' flex whereas the rest are semi flex right
+Ethan Yang Konrad is flex, the Pilot is not, just a soft nib (slight line variation), the others I've never used -Brian Goulet
Would the Falcon soft broad have been better and more in comparison with the Noodler's pens?
In terms of a broader line variation, that would definitely work. I think he wanted to show off how EF the Falcon could get vs. Noodler's pens, rather than matching. Looking on our Nib Nook (www.gouletpens.com/nib-comparison-tool ), Soft Broad is closer the amount of ink Noodler's pens can lay down. - Colin
Where can I purchase the Noadlers Ahob
Here is the link to the Noodler's Ahab: www.gouletpens.com/collections/noodlers-ahab-fountain-pens - Colin
Do you use more pressure to flex a Neponset than a Conrad pen?
They should both be pretty similar. Takes some pressure to flex them both out, but the Neponset is such a wet writer it seems like you don't need to. - Colin
Hi Brian! I have a question: What ink brands/colors/types are best for flex pens? I already have a Noodler's ink that I know is good, so I'm looking for other brands. Also, I'm a fan of your videos, and I want to thank you for showing me these flex pens. Looking into getting one!
+TBSxDRUMS Any of the sheening/shading inks would look great with a flex pen. So Diamine Shimmertastic, or J. Herbin 1670 inks would work! - Colin
Can you post a video comparing all of the noodlers neponset colors please?
Excellent, informative video Brian, thank you. By now I thought that the flex pen craze would have run out of steam, which just goes to show what I know. ;-) It still baffles me a bit though, that people get so exercised about line variation - unless there's a parallel fashion for fountain pen copperplate which has escaped my attention.
Oh, I don't think flex is anywhere near capped out, you'd be amazed how many people still have no idea about it! I expect a lot more excitement around them, especially as more manufacturers are making pens that flex. -Brian Goulet
The Goulet Pen Company You know the market inside out Brian ... going by online reviews and the forums I'd just assumed that baby's bottom syndrome was the new "must have". Joking aside, the launch of the Neponset is bound to make flex a hot topic again.
GenWivern2 haha, true! Yeah, the Neponset helped get flex on more peoples' radars, though flex was already going strong before this pen. -Brian Goulet
Great video , will definitely get the noodlers. I have a question, if anyone can help out I would appreciate it. I like the noodlers Ahab a lot but not sure about the flex nib. I think you mentioned The nibs you sell on gouletpens.com would fit the Ahab. What size nib would you recommend? Thank you for your time.
1:43 this is unjust from killing I promise lol
The English auto subs are hilarious
can a noodler flex nib fit on a different brand? I don't like noodle's look or feel
Yeah, the Ahab is a #6 nib so it technically can fit on other pens (Jinhao/Conklin/Monteverde), that said, the feeds are designed to keep up with flex writing so you may have flow issues. - Colin
Thank you!
I’ve been wondering, why does it seem like there are no modern equivalents to vintage flex? Are there forgotten manufacturing techniques, materials, etc?
Brian actually tackles this exactly in a previous Q&A (th-cam.com/video/bJz30biGcRc/w-d-xo.html ). Basically, the demand hasn't been there recently to justify the investment in machinery and such. - Colin
@@Gouletpens Wow thanks for such a quick response. I'll make sure to check out that Q&A. You guys are on top of things over there!
Should have done a Bonus Waterman 52 comparison. xD
I am 14 and I really like fountain pens but I have never used one! what pen should I use?!
+slyveonlover234 lolzaj (sylveonlover234) I am only 14 too and you should definitely use the Pilot metropolitan. It is a great starter fountain pen. I ordered from Goulet pens and their service is great. I got my pen in just two days.
ok ty I will check it out and see if my mom will let me get it ty!
+slyveonlover234 lolzaj (sylveonlover234) I agree with what Andres said. The Metropolitan was my first fountain pen, and it still writes perfectly. Couldn't recommend it enough! - Colin
ok ty
I would get the captions adjusted there is a point where they are saying things I know aren't what you are saying (but may make you chuckle given how off message it is) @ 1:20 mark. I apologize if this isn't the place you would have wanted me to put this message, i couldn't figure out where would be better.
PS: Looking forward to the DC PEN SHOW!!!!
Yeah, the Google auto-captioning system is not great. We'd love to have all the captions be accurate, but we just don't have the bandwidth for someone to do that on 1000+ videos. Thanks for bringing this to our attention though! Be sure to say hi to Brian and Rachel at the show. :) - Colin
Has anyone at Goulet heard if there's a chance of someone buying OMAS and bringing the brand back to the market?
Last we heard it was coming back. A pen manufacturer in Italy purchased Omas machinery & stock. They were trying to sell out all the old stock before starting production again. This news is from August 2016, so not sure if that's still the case. But definitely a step in the right direction of good news. - Colin
The Goulet Pen Company Exciting news! I'll keep my fingers crossed...thanks.
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Have you considered making a video of entry flex pens? or a flex/soft nibs for other common pens,. I wish to enter into handwriting cursive letters for my relatives and special one. so I think there should be some entry nibs or pens to look for this effect.
on the ohter hand have you considered making a list for foreigners on where to look for correct prices and shiping and availability of pens., Some of your watchers are not in the U.S,. I am from Mexico and I wish if you considered us on your recommendations,. I wanna get more into fountain pens but my geographical pov some times makes it a little troublesome not only for pens, but inks and nibs even paper. greetings love your videos.
We have a pretty comprehensive video on Flex pens here: th-cam.com/video/XQyUUONaIcw/w-d-xo.html It's good for both beginners and those who want to try other flex options. Well, you can buy all the things we show in our videos on our site, and we ship to Mexico. Not sure we want to be promoting other places to buy these products when you can get them from us... - Colin
thank you for your proper and fast reply,. I'm glad you ship here. my only concern is shipping price but I wanna make it worth it,. Thank you for these videos they are lovely.
My favorite of these has to be the ahab
Does the Pilot Metropolitan have line variation too?
Akira Yang Nope, not really. It's a steel non-flexible nib. It's a great pen, though!! -Margaret
+The Goulet Pen Company hey man! I'm getting into fountain pens a lot!One thing I wonder is are you afraid of scratching the back of your pens when you put the lid on? I have OCD about that.Please reply😉
I am a new subscriber. Have you ever done a vintage fountain pen review? At one time I had a nice collection of vintage pens.
+Kentucky 1950 Thanks for following! We don't do much with vintage pens, as we don't carry any. Sorry about that! -Margaret
The Ahab can be very temperamental---appropriately named !
When you did the first thick line with the neap onset it looked like a fountain pen
+Nick Kankanyan You're totally right! What a weird occurrence. - Colin
Later Neponsets are much more easily frexible---the nib steel is thinner. First Gen, not so great.
Might have had feed issues because of the Noodlers ink
Which is better
Neponset or Ahab?
*Ahob
fickmeindreamcacao *Ahab
They were referencing the way it was written in the video :)
*whoosh*
Winner: Dip Pen.
No competition whosoever except longevity of the nib because it's tipped and the fact that you have to dip. Also dip pens get much thinner hairlines
Does anyone else notice that in the beginning when he said all the pen names, he did it in descending order for the price?
What about the Pilot FA nib?
I don't have one yet, but Pilot's bringing them into the US really soon, so give me a couple of weeks and I'll have it :) -Brian Goulet
thx!
How do you heat set a pen?
Here's a video on how-to heatset an ebonite feed: th-cam.com/video/9rhfXcBoM_Q/w-d-xo.html - Colin
I know im late but imma guess v for vanadium steel
RIP Omas
My Ahab is an early one and always railroads when I press on it.