NEW Nighthaunt Full Book Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ก.ย. 2024
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Luka and Matthew talk about the shiny new Nighthaunt battletome, and reveal much of its innards.
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Who else is watching this while assembling Nighthaunts from Soulwars?
The Lord Executioner is so much bigger than I expected!
Nope, I painted mine a week ago. I've been painting them for my local store. So yeah, nice stuff! Have fun!
Props to Matthew for realising people new to the hobby would be watching this and not assuming we all know what Hexwraiths are!
The FAQ does say to use the new Spirit Host and Hexwraith scrolls:
"Pages 117, 118 and 119 - Cairn Wraith, Tomb Banshee, Hexwraiths and Spirit Hosts
These warscrolls are no longer used. They have been replaced with the warscrolls in Battletome: Nighthaunt"
Yup, we saw that after we filmed. :)
Myrmourn Banshees are excellent and have the potential to hit like a truck. 4+ hit, 3+ wound, -2 rend and D3 damage. They only have a single attack but gain an extra attack if they unbind and another if they dispel an endless spell. For every 4 models in a unit they get +1 to unbind so a max squad of 12 gets +3 to unbind.
Keep them in support but if they do unbind and/or dispel, pop a command ability for an extra attack and suddenly they are very very dangerous to any unit.
Guardian of Souls with Mortality Glass: Same as above, but instead of buffing wound rolls forces enemy units within 9" to roll a single die when charging. We know it has a spell called Temporal Traslocation which from the fluff in the nighthunt book sounds like a movement buff but as this is an anniversary exclusive model we don't know for sure what it actully does.
The extra attack when you roll 10 on charge is fluffy, read the fluff for the entry. It really does fit, the enemy is rushed by a legion of scary ghosts and basically gets their butts kicked before they can stop soiling themselves
Oh I totally agree you can make it work fluff-wise, I just think it works way better as a Destruction ability.
To me Nighthaunt have lots of traits to make them unique: lots of fly, saves that can't be modified, better Rend, lots of Hero buffs, -1 Bravery, etc. all give them plenty of flavour.
I think the Nighthaunt black coach has the body of a vampire and the legion black coach has the body of a death wizard
is this a good death army ?
General :
Nagash 1 unit of 1 800 B.P
Battleline:
Skeleton Warriors 1 unit of 20 160 B.P
Morgast Harbringers 1 unit of 2 220 B.P
Gravegaurd 1 unit of 10 160 B.P
Other:
Black Knights 1 unit of 5 120 B.P
Arkhan the black 1 unit of 1 320 B.P
The first cohort battalion 160 B.P
1940 Battle points
Temporal translocation is the special event only guardian of souls given out on a gw birthday.
awww.. i really like how the stalkers look, but looking at their stats line i just can't really think of much use for them. im considering just using them as somewhat throw-away troops for artillery hunting or tying down ranged units.
I am most likely converting all of mine into Grimghast Reapers by chopping the polearm blade off and turning it into a scythe.
I'm just keeping mine near the Reapers. It'll help back them up and the charge bonus helps make it easier to use the Death Knell ability
Honestly every unit just looks so great I have no idea which unit I HAVE to take.
thanks for the great review, but i wonder where did you get the idea that you cant chain out models that return in a legions of nagash army to get as you say from 13:25-14:45 in a better charge range or in combat etc. as far as i know there hasnt been a faq or rule that says you cant do that. if there is one plz linked or refer to it.
again thanks for the great review
Yeah, I can't find anything that says you can't chain em like that either.
Yeeeaaahh Ghosts!
Jim LaClair I might just get into aos just to have an army of ghosts
miniwargaming will you get a place in Europe so people that want to play with you that live in Europe dont have to travel so far
I wish!
@miniwargaming could you export more Steve in europe?
I wished you did a unit by unit discussion about the units tactics
I'm still not quite sure what a "characteristic" of something is, is that the number on the warscroll or current value after modifiers. Example, when using the spirit drain spell from Nighthaunt you pick a model and roll a number of dice equal to that models wound characteristic, so if i'm targeting a guy with 12 wounds total but he has lost 3 wounds, do i roll 12 dice or 9 dice?
The names character that can teleport outside of 9” of an enemy unit, is that an HQ option? Wondering because you mentioned teleporting troops to your general? I could’ve misheard, probably, but wouldn’t you be able to teleport that character and if he’s your general you could teleport units to him?
Mar Breeze. All Nighthaunts armies have an ability where every other unit can be setup in reserve and arrive more than 9” away from an enemy unit.
Nighthaunt also have a Command Ability that lets you pick up a unit anywhere on the battlefield and set it up again wholly within 12” of your general and more than 9” away from enemy units.
Finally, the Dreadblade Harrow which is a Hero, has an ability that provided it’s not within 3” of the enemy you can pick it up and set it back up anywhere on the table more than 9” away from an enemy unit.
As far as I can tell, no (or not as many) rules similar to the Gravesites and Deathly Invocation rules from Legions of Nagash, not to mention the Endless Legions rule where you can bring back a destroyed unit. I'm scratching my head as to why I wouldn't just use the Nighthaunt models in a Nagash army. Are the new Abilities/Traits/Artefacts really worth it?
Ossel. Yes they’re worth it. You cannot return destroyed units but they can return more slain models that any other Faction in the game. If you don’t finish a unit off it’s very likely that it’ll be back to full strength the following Hero phase.
They also have some excellent unit rules, battalion rules, command traits etc that synergise with the allegiance abilities.
All the buffs from Hero’s only affect Nighthaunt so you’re wasting a lot of those abilities by running them with other Death units.
Finally, LoN only have access to the units from Soul Wars which are good but the best units are Nighthaunt only.
Andrew Charlton Thanks! Yeah, now that I have the book I’m seeing a little better how they work. They have tons of “return slain models” abilities. Lady Olynder is a standout as well. Every unit within 12” returns a slain model.
im new to aos and interested in playing nighthaunt. in my research i saw the model mortis engine and i wondered why it is no nighthaunt. is there a way to play it with nighthaunts ?
With regards to the "wholly within", what if your unit is not within 12 inches of a single hero, but the unit is wholly within 2 heroes (as in, half in range of one, half in range of other). I can't remember the rule stating it must be within a single hero
It would have to be wholly within at least one of them. Every rule like that says 'wholly within 12" of one or more...' which would mean that you have to be wholly within at least one of those "one or more."
What‘s the stat line of the dreadsword harrows? (Or what they‘re called)
I would like to play these army anyone else
i watched a couple of different reviews today (stormcast & nighthaunt), all have said they will be up for pre-order today, but when i went to GW's site, the only thing up for pre-order is 2 different versions of the same novel.
Maybe later today? I thought it went up today too.
i hope so, i hate this trickle crap, i wanted to get moving on things, instead i'll be dragging my feet for a third week (two week pre-order) and that's if they actually put it up today, if not, it could be 4 weeks or more, without playing a game of AOS with relevant rules (since they announced 2.0's launch).
they're up now, it went from 2 to 26
The Rustbelt Blacksmith. Where are you from, all preorders go up 10am local time
I bet Temporal Translocation is on the alternate Guardian of Souls with hourglass
captainferrite. It is. The Age of Sigmar Community Team confirmed to me that it’s a unique spell that the store anniversary Guardian of Souls knows and they will release a warscroll for it shortly.
Wait, you can bring more than 1 relic?!
If you roll the 10 + unmodified roll charge. The unit can attacks but the oppenent units can be respond after with their attacks or it's just free attacks for us ?
free attack in the charge phase, no pile in or anything. The things that are within range at the end of the charge get to attack. Enemy does not get to respond until normal fight phase stuff.
It's a free attack that doesn't stop you from attacking in the normal melee combat phase
Question: is the neg 1 to bravery for being in range of a unit in your army stackable? so if they are in range of 3 units in your army are they neg 3 bravery?
No, it says "one or more units" so it definitely doesn't stack. That would be VERY over powered.
Where's the Ghostbusters when you need them?
I don’t mind the 4 Reapers in the box. I’m getting 3 lots but the leader comes with the Knell so I’ll just keep the 2 extra leaders as painting practice and use the unit of 10 including leader.
The stalkers are causing me to scratch my head though as I’d need a weird number of sprues.
If I am playing a Nighthaunt army do I get to run Nagash in my army? New to the game
yes. :)
As an ally, yes.
As Mathew says, only as an ally so unless you’re playing 4000 points it won’t be possible.
You can play a Legion of Nagash army with Nagash as Warlord and add some Nighthaunt units to that army and more as allies though.
Do we have a Mortis Engine in this battletome? :\
nope :/
Nope. Mortis Engine still doesn't have the Nighthaunt keyword.
(Literally the reason why I bought the Tormented Spirit box instead of the Start Collecting Malignant)
Named characters can't take magic weapons?
No
Disliking the unmodified 6+ for mortal wounds
FoulPlay. It has its disadvantage as well as advantage. I’ve seen lots of Spirit Hosts lose the ability because they have a -1 to hit.
Andrew Charlton Yeah I get that but that’s what I liked about the previous rule. There was the risk vs reward of either being negated or Unbuffed, vs the chance of having a higher MW output
Can Nagash be the leader in the book?
thats what im wandering cuase i was reading about if they can be part of grandhost as well
Nagash is not himself a Nighthaunt model.
I will move to Canada to work for Miniwargaming.
I was going to get the new aos but already rules changes so box becomes redundant. I have to admit I'm new this but it looks like it's just a way for games workshop to grab more money buy releasing more books.
It does suck but the Warscrolls are available for free on their AoS app, so there's that at least.
miniwargaming ah ok thank you for the reply. :)
.. oh wait, so the warscrolls are wrong?! :( i managed to get the "shiny foil" ones too..
vcxlll this is one of the reasons I only see GW as a cash grab although they do excellent products they don't always have their customers in mind
Well, they were before this latest app update destroyed the world :(
I hope that they will be again.
what the fuck is heckswrais?
Hexwraiths suck...