The NBA Is Rigged
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That Kyle Lowry comment outta pocket fr
Definitely a PAUSE moment 😂
@Not RickRoll 🅥 I ain’t gonna fall for that one
Definitely factual
Insane ayo
Bro he does that have booty
Pat Bev grabbing someone’s thousand dollar camera to show the ref he missed a call for his teammate of like 4 months at that point is a legendary heart moment.
A teammate is a teammate at this level. 1 week or 10 years you stick up for your team
He should get in the HOF for that alone 🤣🤣😭😭😭
He is like the modern Rodman
@@AtlanticCanadianAstronomy
Facts!
Once we unite, you now have a brother for war. Much like America but the highups are terrified of a peace of the people
@@dozhadeville444 yeah but he sucks at basketball hes just Rodmans personality
Sucks at basketball???? You must slobber over stat sheets all day if you think pat bev can’t play. Outstanding defensive player.
Mark Jackson: "That's a terrible call, I don't agree with it at all. I played basketball like that my whole life, from the playground to the league, and that's never been a foul."
Jeff Van Gundy: "He literally punched him in the face, of course it's a foul."
Mike Breen: "Butler steps to the line."
Lol idk why but the convo was just funny
lmao like butler actually gets fouled all he does is pull a tre and jump into people praying he gets a whistle
@@yabiochya yeah mark jackson was right for once
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@@yabiochya nuh...jimmy is sick...he good at what he does...it just the rest of the team need to conteder...let jok do his ting...all they gotta do is play D on the other 3 pause
Jimmy, Bam and the undraftables had me rolling seems like the coming of a new superhero team 😂😂
I can see the movie title: "'The Undraftables' Coming November 16th to theaters near you"
The fact that Jokic has comprable shooting,passing and rebounding to Dirk, Magic and Moses all in one is outstanding on it's own
Joker has better shooting than Dirk and arguably better rebounding than Moses.
Joker can shoot on all 3 levels at better efficiency.
Joker's passsing is better in half-courrt offense but maybe magic has the edge in transition offense. Joker's outlet passes are crazy though so maybe not.
Joker is a better rebounder since his rebounds actually have more value. Hes also in the argument for greatest passer so when he gets a rebound, he can dish out dimes.
And that's all Mike was saying
@@coledorillo6685 if Jokic tries to shoot outside the paint on Dirk's volumes he would drop off a cliff in efficiency -- the mid range most especially. Inside 10 feet though it's no contest, Jokic takes it by a mile.
The passing game is totally different as the Showtime Lakers likes to run. Jokic can't run as fast as Magic or Worthy haha lol
And rebounding? Not even close. Moses can't pass like Jokic that's why you say that his impact has a lesser value but in terms of purely rebounding the ball for another possession Moses blows him out of the park.
Now my hot take is when it's all said and done Jokic would be greater than Dirk and Moses and would prolly be in the top 10 all time if he wins 4 rings like LeBron and Steph
The fact that Jokic and Denver is winning the championship by beating a bunch of 8th and 7th seeds teams is outstanding in its own too
Yeah, he's not on their lvl in those aspects...but the fact that those comparisons look/sound legit on him prove that, we don't even need to mention stats to talk highly bout Jokic (like many say)...even eye-test, Jokic is that insane
That moment where Jokic is shrugging when AD looked at him with disbelief is iconic
not really lol, no one even talks about it
@@fearlesstay Well...not to haters, no. 😂
ya seethe?
@@fearlesstay except it was the highlight reel for every single show and clip of that game, every friend I got was texting me when he hit that shot. If you’re a fan of great basketball you got hyped, if you’re a casual scrub with shit takes then it’s just an average play 🤷🏻♂️
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The fact that we're trying to combine Magic's passing, Dirk's shooting, and Moses' rebounding into one person is proof enough that this guys is goat material.
Add McHale/Olajuwon post game
He's the Center version of Larry Bird ! Extremely high IQ, extremely skilled shooter, passer and rebounder, but not athletic at all (compared to other NBA players)
agree.
I would dispute the "non-athletic" bit. It is simply a too narrow definition of athleticism. Having great footwork and coordination is athletic. Being able to process a game situation ahead of everyone else is pathetic. Being so well conditioned that you can make good decisions for the duration of an entire game - and trust me - if you are poorly conditioned you decision making ability is the first to go. He never seems out of breath for an entire game. He manages to blow by someone like Antonio Davis, which requires considerable speed. Tossing a pass across the length of the court with high accuracy is athletic. Having superb hand-eye coordination is athletic. @@Herbalizer28
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For what it's worth, Jokic's rebounding percentage is comparable to Moses' and when you factor in the frequency with which Jokic comes high to guard a P&R and plays on the perimeter on offense, the argument gets stronger
The fact that Jokic is even compared to not one, but all 3 of those legends, and rightfully so…that’s just insane! He’s one of a kind
I completely agree, it would be huge honor to be compared with any of that three legends individually and the take is that he is as good as all three of them, now that's highest of the praises i heard and its all true.
@M&M No, here's the thing. He's NOT a superstar. Not because of talent or ability but because the NBA had no desire to market one of its best, arguably the best, player in the NBA. So the question is why?
Because he doesn't jump out of the gym? Doesn't have a soul crushing dunk on someone's head? Doesn't shoot 3s from the logo? I don't know, only Adam Silver can answer that. It wasn't until after game 1 of the Finals that the NBA acknowledged people were searching for clips of Jokic.
He's a back to back MVP and was in the running for a third consecutive MVP and you market him now just to try and ensure your Finals ratings don't drop? Shame on you Adam Silver. I can guarantee that David Stern wouldn't have missed on such a globally marketable talent.
@@walterworthy7494 funniest thing is while the announcers were talking about this jokic was eavesdropping on the other team, noticing a hanf gesture, and letting his team know about the incoming pistol action, which then resulted in a bam adebayo turnover because of it.
@@walterworthy7494 Meh. When a guy wins two consecutive MVP's he is, by any reasonable definition, a superstar. You can't accuse the league of downplaying him when, you know, two MVP's.
And I'm OK with Embiid winning MVP this year even though he's not quite the player Jokic is. The league should throw a bone to other great players, too, even if they're not quite as great as Jokic. After all, Barkley and Malone won MVP's when Jordan was playing, even though everyone knows they weren't his equal.
Its an great comparison cause he doesnt dunk or bully defenders like shaq, has an signature move like hakeem that changes the game or an elite athlete like wilt.
but none of those have jokic impact on team winning as he can make any player look like an superstar if the game was winnable by only passing he would, could drop 50 at ease with over 60% fg while grabbing more rebounds than your favorite team in 3 quarters
While Jokic may not be the best ever at those things, the fact that he's *really really good* at all those things together, the fact that he's such a good all-around player, is what makes him worth talking about.
That's how I interpreted the comment on him
Perfect point
Right? I mean it was like saying a player is having a Jordanesque performance.
For me, it's simple for one thing, you simply can not argue there was ever a better passer than Jokic.
You can name your Magics, Stocktons Lebrons, the mythical prime Sabonis, none of those guys are better at passing the ball than Jokic, it is not hard to call Jokic the best passer ever.
@@bojanpejovic7691 That's a stretch. It may be debatable, but I don't think it's undeniable, not at all
Rigged or not we've all had the moment where we were 99% sure it was rigged. Like the Kings vs Lakers series in early 2k, Suns vs Spurs mid 2k. There's been plenty of moments where things felt rigged. It just depends who is in control at the time. Which is the refs.
Refs are just insurance. They have tech to control the ball. U can literally see the ball get sucked in the hoop like like a vacuum
No! The only way it can be rigged is by a Individual for selfish gain. . . But doesn’t mean it is scripted
@@jonvich3011why, because you said so? It's obviously rigged and scripted. Big franchizes with huge fan bases will bring a lot of money to the organisation if they keep winning.
@@jonvich3011only way? Do you not see the referees controlling the game ? Are u that dumb
Don't forget 2016 when lebron got draymond suspended because competition was too hard.
I'm a die hard Laker fan, but I couldn't be happier that Jokic and the Nuggets won it all. They deserved it!
Jxmy coming in with the clutch late-night upload for all us insomniacs out here
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It’s definitely nice 👍 ❤
I feel attacked sir.
But, true.
I swear
I actually woke up with a bout of diarrhea and saw he uploaded so I watched. He's putting in the legwork for the lactose intolerants too
In Breen's defense, I immediately perceived it as within the context of the Playoffs. Jokic's numbers these Playoffs are ridiculous, even today when he dropped a 30-20-10 line IN THE FINALS. The first to do so, if his performances continue at this pace, Playoff-wise, Breen's take is not that big of a reach.
Facts!
I also think he was being a bit hyperbolic to point out how complete his game is and Van Gundy took it overly literally.
I think even if Jokic's attributes aren't quite as good as theirs, the fact that he can do all three at a rate comparable to them is insane
I thought Mike was half joking. I didn’t take that as a completely serious take
One of the commentators last night said that Wilt had like a 30-30-10 game, but they didn't want to include that last night in the stat for some reason
I been watching the NBA dedicated for 25 years you get use to seeing all types of teams win the championship versus teams that seem like they should. There is always some teams that seemed to get screwed in their chances.
In order to compare certain abilities (like “rebounding like Moses”) of players in the past and the present, u must measure how good a player was compared to the other players in that era, to find out how truly dominant the player was over the other players
It’s been hilarious to watch Mark Jackson discover Jokic in real time during these finals broadcasts. You legitimately get the feeling he couldn’t have picked Jokic out of a line-up 2 weeks ago.
didnt vote him as a top 5 mvp candiate
Dude yes! Every time Jackson says something great about joker I yell out shut the hell up mark! Lol
His commentating in this playoffs has been atrocious and extremely biased. The way he was riding the Lakers when he commentated over those games was ridiculous. He just needs to be fired
@@austinrawlins he should honestly have to explain his reasoning. Absolutely ridiculous that he gets a vote
He can't even pronounce his name, it's ridiculous. Start paying attention and you will notice he always refers to him as "The Joker."
The crazy thing is those three things are those three legends best strength, Nikola does all three at nearly their level, its insane man, as Jimmy would say, Joker is criminally underrated.
THIS. Well said 👏
He’s dog shit on defense 😂
How we have heard nothing about anyone else but jokic since the playoff started and he can’t even play defense
@@NFLOLDMAN771What??? Literally every sports channel was meat riding only Curry and LeBron in the first round, then LeBron in the 2nd round, then still LeBron after losing in the conference finals, Jokic had been getting recognition only for the past 2 weeks Bruh, you have limited memory if you truly think like that
@@NFLOLDMAN771Jokic not playing defense your completely right but the recognition take is straight bullshit
My hot take: the nba in the future won’t be reliant on the amount of talent a team has but the way the team plays together. The nba will start seeing a lot more talent as kids have the internet to help them with their skills so the knowledge of the game and the way you can play with others will be more important than the amount of talent a team has
Video was made so well getting a new subscriber fam 💯
After not having Jokic in his top 5 for MVP voting, I think it's great that Mark Jackson has to watch Jokic dominate like an MVP in the finals 😂
That in itself was a hot take from Mark! How can you not have Jokic in your top 5!?😂I need to hear his reasoning.
@Siyabonga Kunene he said it was a mistake and apologized.. Whether it was a sincere mistake or, just ineptitude, maybe they should let someone else vote in his place going forward 🤔
i legit think that mark Jackson legitimately didn't watch a single nuggets game
After hearin my song u can get a nba contract🦾
He should not be allowed to vote again
2:51 "on his 87th second-round exit" had me laughing😂😂
no cuz that’s crazy😂😂 i had to pause and laugh out loud
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Yoo what? That's hard to swallow
@@flashyred9125 bro pause that next time
Jxmy is savage af sometimes
I said the other day. Denver is by far more efficient than any team listed. The Nuggets are the new Dynasty. Could be the new gold standard of how to construct a team. I know if I was building a team to compete for years to come. Honestly, I would start by making sure they could score at a very high, efficient pace. Also, play as a team really well.
omyghod a new upload from jxmyhighroller finally
People talking about Jimmy channeling and being a Playoff MJ , but ignoring Jokic Putting up Wilt Chamberlin numbers
Well, id say more like the Big O numbers (i think that was Oscar's nickname right?), Wilt's numbers was still wildly higher than this, maybe not in the assists column but Wilt probably would get 50 and 20 a night in his prime stretches right?
Dont get me wrong though, Jokic has been a fucking beast and i dont mean to take away from that. I just think his numbers look more like Big O than Wilt's
@@Pyxyty bruh 🤓
@@xwiay3067 Stop with this shit. It's demeaning and arrogant, no one likes people like that. Let him talk the way he wants about what he wants. At least he's adding something to the conversation unlike you.
@@Pyxyty Wilt's scoring is super overrated, his numbers drop off sharply in the playoffs compared to the regular season.
That has everything to do with Jokic not being flashy while Jimmy always looks like he works for his shots like a salt mine lorry driver. Jokic is super gifted offensively, but it also looks very awkward how he moves, while Jimmy really reminds you about MJ in some of his movements, especially the midrange turnaround jumpers.
That Mike Breen take was pretty accurate, Jokic is the most potent offensive Center since Wilt. Remember, assists also count as offense.
Jokic rebounding like a 6x trb champ with 5 consecutive seasons of 15rpg and 7orpg seasons is accurate to you? Jokic passing like a man who led the league in assists 4x averaging 10 for a career is accurate to you?
What kind of seasoning do yall put on his meat before you eat it?
@@FrokuBabayy who are you comparing him to here? On a per possession basis there's never been a player scoring this much and playmaking this much while being this ridiculously efficient
Wilt wasn’t even that effective when it came to winning. Looking at his stats, you’d think he’d have as many chips as Russell. Dude only got two with 12 teams competing. He dog walked most of the league, but when faced with actual competition, he folded like a cheap suit
Blasphemy, especially when this same video highlights Hakeem's Rockets. He won that title going through David Robinson and Shaq. Jokic is doing this against a PF masquerading as a Center in Bam. Then we have the immortal AD, Ayton, and Gobert...the softest "bigs" in the league in whatever order you put them in smh. It's not his fault, you play who's in front of you, but ya'll gotta stop acting like this is the 90s era of great Centers. It's far from that...
@@FrokuBabayy love how youre saying this after he dropped a 20 rebound triple double in the finals haahaha all time great rebounder and if he wins it all a top 15 player ever
That player showing the red the camera is such a vindicating moment lmao
Allowing flopping in the nba and allowing only certain players to flop consistently takes away intensity, emotion, appreciation and ultimately cheapens the product
I think the point breen was making about Jokić is that he has all the skills of those guys combined which makes him such a dangerous player. Even if he’s not as good as those other guys, it’s the fact he can do everything they can do almost as good.
Exactly! He is basically on par with Magic, Dirk and Moses, but all in one player!
Did you order the hit on Pac?
NBA needs a 4 and 5 point line. And goal tending needs to back as long as the defender does jumps from 5feetbaway from the goal
@@reyorocio7446 nigga no
nah Mark was right to gasp at the Moses comment. Because the reality is this; Magic who played on a star studded team where others grabbed a lot of rebounds and scored a lot of points, still managed to drop a regular season career average 19.5 points and 7.2 rebounds. So Magic, in sheer volume, was a step above Jokic in passing, but was also basically as good as Jokic on rebounds and scoring, he just played point guard on a team where his teammates had a bigger statistical contributions than Jokic’s teammates. So yeah to say Jokic rebounds loke Moses, huuuge stretch. The beauty of the Jokic rebounds is that like so much of his game, the fascinating thing is the reading and anticipation. He just knows where to be to get the boards. But he is not in the cream of the elite rebounders who fight for it and win it.
"Kyle Lowry don't do nothin but have a big booty and get in the way" 💀💀💀
That shit got me rollin
Jokic and the nuggets deserve so much more credit then what is given to them. Nuggets in five
All I can say is finally never thought Nuggets would ever win a championship.
I remember the Rockets title in 95, I was 10. We were REALLY into the run that year, my whole family. I think I still have the special edition unopened coke bottles from that year lol. The intermediate school that I went into that very next year was brand new, they had just built it and we were the first class to go through it. They asked us to come up with the name of the place/mascot by submitting options, and the top 5 would have a "by round of applause" in the next assembly to name the school. They ended up being named the Rockets. The kids erupted when they mentioned that name, almost blew the windows out of the place. On the radio that year, just before the championship games (and all during) they created a version of the song "Do you believe in magic?" with changed lyrics talking down to the Orlando Magic and how Olajuwon's gonna take Shaq to school, etc. Those were some fun times :D
It’s amazing to me how well you can break down the game of basketball and continue to come out with banger after banger. Love the vid and keep it up bro
You didn’t even watch the video lol. Video just came out cuz
bro somehow watched an 11 minute video in 2 minutes lol
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Mf you didn't watch the full video and your already talking moon runes?
I agree
The finals run by the 76ers led by Iverson in 2001 would have been a good comparison to the current Miami Heat too. That's a finals run that never gets talked about anymore, at least that's my perception.
Iverson was the mvp of the league. He took a game from 1 of the 3 best teams ever. But they weren't an 8th seed or anything and after game 1 they were promptly smoked the next 4 games.
@@Lloyd00 you are completely right of course. I just jogged my memory (google) and they were even the no 1 seed that year! How embarrassing. I was convinced that they also had a super impressive run as an 8th seed one year. Oh well, my old mind playing tricks on me
@@Brewther It's because the East sucked.
I don't care what anyone says that run can't be forgotten. Iverson beat a Lakers team that swept the entire west. Even if it's just one game to me that's a championship
@@HatutZeraze you cant be serious
As a diehard Mavericks fan I still believe that the 04 Pistons had one of the hardest runs to the championship in NBA history.
If they won a NBA championship then the rigging was in their favor do you know what rigging and fixing is. Is when they bet on the best team to win a championship. The teams that were victims of rigging were Phoenix suns & kings Both teams were very good teams when they were robbed of an NBA championship.
@@iakadayrneh The rigging got serious when the flop appeared. Game 3 at home vs Pistons 89/90 Finals Jake O'Donnell ejects Clyde in the 2nd Quarter. O'Donnell would eventually be caught and fired after pulling the same shit when Clyde was in Houston winning his only ring. Sports are entertainment now and totally rigged.
That was fun to watch. Best underlaying music, At the end you compared Jokic to three of the best in each catogory. It left the impression like he's the most complete. Is that like that?
I think the Breen point was more that he passes "in the manner of" Magic, rebounds "in the manner" of Moses and shoots "in the manner" of Dirk. He whips insanely fast passes that look impossible. He uses his weight and strength to get rebounds while barely leaving his feet, and he has a slow, methodical shot.
i was literally looking for this before i decided to post it myself lol i agree 100 percent. i feel like he was making conversation, as announcers do, and was just saying how well rounded jokic is in those categories. it wouldve been one thing to say he does it better, which he didnt say. he said he does it " like" them. which means in a similar fashion lmao not exactly the same
@@gdirty7380 exactly
He doesn’t do anything like any of those players. He sure as hell doesn’t pass like Magic or shoot like Dirk. People have to stop making these comparisons. Great players always carve out their own legend.
Actually, he's very dexterous. He tips so many rebounds to himself or makes a pass out of it. Just an extremely skilled player.
@@stuffylamb3420 No, you're absolutely wrong ... he does pass like Magic and he does shoot like Dirk. Like doesn't mean "better than" or even "equal to". It means similar. Jokic is already probably the top passing center of all time, and he runs the break as Magic Johnson would although he's a center. 95% of the time when Jokic rebounds and runs the break he is looking to pass -- not shoot -- exactly like a real point guard.
I think Moses Malone averaged more rebounds just because there were a lot more shots that missed in that era. Now we’re getting teams with 120 point games like it’s nothing, and to get rebounds seems more difficult.
possessions are faster in this era though and more possessions means more chances to rebound as well.
Shots are coming from farther also, so instead of a rebound close to the rim with multiple tip ins, you get long caroms
@Verce 919 This is what I came to say. It is easier to rebound when 95% of the shots are around the rim.
Because the paint was crowded in the 70s and 80s, rebounds we're much more heavily contested than today where the game is spaced out. So getting rebounds then was more difficult because you have to struggle for it. And Malone was an undersized center.
@@MGWA6891 yep
I truly appreciate this video bro , I’ve been saying NBA is Rigged, each year it gets worse
The NBA needs a 4 point line to bring some novelty back to the long range shot, or just move the 3 pt line back a significant distance. This may sound like an old man yelling at a cloud, but I always admired the simplicity of trying to get the ball as close as possible to the hoop before shooting as efficiently as possible.
When people say the NBA is rigged, they don't actually mean that they dictate injuries and every outcome. They mean that the refs have a real influence over the game and can swing things a certain way just because they want to
Facts....
I get that as well, and some times it leads to a game winning shot. However it only matters if you make that shot.
There was already one ref from back in the day who got caught trying to rig games...... i guarantee if there was one then there were more doing it.....
And they tried their little hearts out with the Lakers this year. The Nuggets were just too good.
Same as nfl n mlb we need robot refs
2019 Raps are a super underrated squad. Top to bottom excellent roster, great coaching, and kawhi was inhumanly good. Sure they would have lost to the healthy warriors, but so would every other team in history.
nah
I really don't think they would have lost to the healthy warriors. They beat a healthy Warriors squad both times during the regular season. That 2019 Raptors roster was designed and built to take down the Warriors. Keep in mind that while KD was out for the first 4 games, the Raptors didn't have their best 3&D wing and DPOY candidate, OG Anunoby, throughout the entire playoff run, and they ran smaller rotations than the warriors did the entire series. I think with OG healthy and playable anything could have happened even if the warriors were healthy.
@@tyleryoung306 also dont forget that the kawhi spurs, (a team that didnt have as much help as the 2019 raptors), were about to steal game 1 against the 2017 warriors, (the better version of that team) up almost 30 at halftime AT ORACLE, before zaza injuerd kawhi and they came back... not saying they wouldve 100% beaten the warriors, but you cant definitely say the warriors wouldve won, not to mention the original commenter said that every team in history wouldve lost to those warriors, which just simply isnt true
The team was deep ash...and ofc, u got the closest thing to Mj, 2019 Playoffs Kawhi
@@tyleryoung306nah the would have loss
My man said the jimmy bam and the Undraftables! Lol!. That Kyle Lowry comment outta pocket fr.
During the sponsored ad, you told me to stay hydrated and be ready to go. No! I refuse.
People don't wanna hear it, but Jokic is having a top 5 maybe even top 3 offensive peak of all time
But why is bro saucin on these underdawgs man 🥲imagine making it all the way to the finals with that boofed ass lineup and you gotta go band4band with JOKIC playing like that. Pain. Just pain.
All time
def not
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I think Jokic deserves the ring after getting scammed outta the MVP this season, but lord that man Jimmy Buckets is putting on a hell of a show. Jimmy deserves a ring as much as anyone ever has, and I hope he gets one; I just think Jokic gets a ring moves further and further up the all time list
Mere fact that you think a professional sports player DESERVES anything lets me know you not a real NBA fan
jimmy WILL get a ring next year if heat get dame
Oh that’s cool, I didn’t know “real nba fans” can’t use the word deserves.
L take
@@FrokuBabayy the hottest of the takes right here
Jimmy's been kinda mid (according to his own standards) after the bucks series
I would love a long video of just the best NBA memes with that music like the intro
Well, I found videos with magnets in the basketball and even in golf balls. When you are complying with them, they turn it on. When you are not, they will turn it off. They were using Tiger woods for example.
It's a great day when Jxmy analyses hot takes 😭
It’s midnight for me 😭
@@kailubsandiego7294 3:09 AM for me
Lol bro said the loaded suns🤦🏾♂️subs had two injured starters😂😂😂what team starting Cameron Payne in loaded??
That Houston Rockers chip run was by far the most impressive. All those teams they beat were great teams
I agree however a hest ring would be insane
yeah as opposed to the Heat who... oh wait, they beat the East's #1 seed Bucks, a Knicks team that had two all stars in Brunson and Randle, a Celtics team that nearly EVERYONE had winning the championship, and the Denver "best team since the Warriors dynasty" Nuggets.
Its just as impressive. These two are #1 and #2 followed by the Mavs at #3
@@csanadhorvath they had to beat probably the most dominant big man to ever play in Shaq… that alone is insane. But seriously? You can’t compare any of those guys other than the joker to Karl Malone? John Stockton? Charles Barkley, David Robinson? Penny Hardaway? Lol what are we talking about here? And all those guys had incredible defense.
@@juicevino4288 of course you can. Sure they're younger, but Tatum and Giannis will be up there once they're finished. And despite the fact that the Heat played them both, everyone will tell you that Brunson was the guy they had the most problem guarding. Well, up until now lol. Jokic and Murray are insane.
I mean the context missing there is that Drexler got traded midseason to that team, so their record wasn't reflective of how good they actually were. Yes they beat great teams, and were the lowest seed to win to date, but they themselves were a great team who got better towards the end due to a trade. None of that is true for the Heat, which is why they are more impressive if they end up pulling it off.
5:11 Define loaded. We literally had no depth. It was last season we were loaded (And choked against Dallas 💀)
What impresses me on the last take is that all those players were the best in a skill (of course magic was very good at a lot of skills), while Jokic is almost as good as them at all those skills.
It’s crazy how underrated Jokic still is when considering all time greats. 2 MVPs and is currently averaging a 30 point triple double (AS A CENTER) in the playoffs. Jokic may be one of the most complete basketball players we have ever seen, but it feels like he isn’t being treated that way. Also I think it’s ridiculous that people disregard the Nuggets as a franchise. Denver is a city with a metro population of 3 million people, and the metro area doesn’t include the Boulder, Colorado Springs, Fort Collins, and many other towns/small cities that are less than 2 hours from the city.
We are a small market team, all the bandwagons go support the teams with deep pockets. Real fans, those who understand the game know his true value. Hes not the most exciting player but if you have basketball IQ you understand how crazy the numbers this man is putting up are. Theres always gonna be casuals hating on him but if he gets this chip they cant really talk too much.
… that’s cause 3 million is relatively small for a metro area? Also 2 hours is not the standard for surrounding areas or else LA would be a LOT bigger 😂💀 2 hours radius from LA and you got a TON of people and landscapes that would make Denver look like a small town in comparison. Yes they’re a big city … but for Utah. There’s levels to that stuff. The Joker point is A1 tho
One of the most complete OFFENSIVE players*
@@captaincozy4523 yup, and that is where most people don't get it. We all just love to look at offensive production and ignore defensive stats if the offensive ones seem great. Jokic is great on offense, meh on defense, and his game is so soft, that it is hard to appreciate it at times. I personally think he is a great player but he flops ALOT for a big man of his category which sours it all quite a bit.
@@MrSheduur yea, but he makes up for it with his production offensively, that’s what makes him so great. Same thing with Steph Curry
Comparing the best attribute of 3 all-time greats to the skillset of 1 player and it not being that far from the truth is crazy. Really goes to show how good Jokic is. I'd say Breen's statement relative to all the players today, he's the closest to fitting that statement even if he falls short in each category, no other player has that good a collection of skills in today's game.
"Jimmy, Bam & the Undraftables"
broooo😭
People who think this is a boring finals are so stupid. If the Heat manage to win a championship it will be one of the craziest in NBA history. Even as a Lakers fan I don't understand how you can't enjoy this finals.
A point to add to the 95 Rockets, Vernon Maxwell quit on the team after the first game of the playoffs. So they missed one of the core players throughout that entire run. Hakeem had also just of recovered from anemia and he still went on to have amazing performances on both ends of the court.
it was good for them for vernon to quit on them, it opened up the rotation for sam cassell who was playing better. cassell just shot the ball better, and vernon was a shot chucker all year
@@eduardobranco8349 yeah it worked in their favor but Cassell wasn't much more efficient in either of the championship seasons than Vernon. No matter what, losing a core member and still winning a championship in the way the path they had is very impressive bc it isn't expected. Plus, you have to start relying on guys who aren't normally in the rotation which is always a risk especially as you get deeper in the playoffs. Considering Cassell was pretty inefficient in the 94 season you wouldn't expect him to step up in 95 playoffs, which he did but not by a huge amount. Its like how the heat's run this year is impressive bc of them being a low seed, injuries and having so many undrafted players but its those same undrafted players who have been great. Its unexpected which is what makes it impressive
Mad Max!
@@deemann123Top 5 NBA goats
1 Jordan
2 Tim Duncan
3 Jayson Tatum
4 Derrick Rose
5 LeBron James
@@STANKORachevepic list bro
I think Breen just meant that Jokic was elite in each category.
Exactly. Hyperboles.
your content is FIRE! love watching your show! in short, Jokic should get his proper flowers! dude is averaging triple doubles with ease. stat padding? cmon Perk?!?!?
the thing about Stats is they don't take into account the next level intangibles. i.e. a team in a weak division might have better Stats than a team in a tougher division, but when they play each other , the Stats might be misleading and could cost you big if you Bet that way.
3 videos in one postseason runn? We don't deserve you Jimmy 🙌
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@@RKWDBMX 😂😂
i would like 20 but you know the deal
@@RKWDBMX hating ass
bro yk it's literally his job to make videos yeah he's gonna post 😭
Great stuff Jxmy. I think by the time Jokic ends his career he'll enter that best-passer-ever conversation... as well as GOAT conversation if he keeps winning like he is right now.
He is already in the best passer conversation 🤣
he aint gon be a goat
@@pbcehe is already if y’all call melo a goat
@@fabiobeast5705 As much as I like Jokic's game, he has 0 rings. And while this might change that, I still don't see him as ever being in the GOAT debate. Charles Barkley was a great player, most would say he's top 20 all-time, but Charles doesn't have a ring and yet he still had multiple All-star appearances, was a multi-time all-offense first team, and has some other accolades to boot. Those accolades and stats alone put Barkley in the Hall of Fame, BUT they don't necessarily make him top 5 all-time.
If anything, Giannis has more in the GOAT debate than Jokic.
Giannis got his first already. So, he's 1-0 in the Finals and ahead of Jokic.
Curry's 4th came just last season in his 13th season. Curry's 4-2 in the Finals with 6 appearances.
Kobe's 5th came, well damn, in 2010 in his 14th season. He went 5-2 in the Finals with 7 appearances.
Lebron's top in All-time Scoring list and is a 4 time champ, he's 4-6 in the finals with 10 Finals appearances.
Finally, still the GOAT in my mind, Michael Jordan, he is 6-0 in the Finals, never lost. With multiple First-team All-offensive and all-defensive first team and second team as well as several All-star appearances.
@@zaynes5094 You do realize that he is two wins away, right?
"Jimmy, Bam, an the Undraftables"💀
u so wild for them sponsors xD Respect to you though my man
i just hope Jokic's success leads to the NBA puting more emphasis on all around play instead of teams loading up on shooting the 3 constantly even when there isn't an open shot
The nuggets are absolutely fuckin loaded with “3 pt specialists” what are you talking about
LeBron kind of already did that, it's just that you need specialists (whether that be shooting, rebounding, or playmaking) to properly build a team instead of just getting all-rounders, who would be hella expensive to get because of their skillset and may not be as reliable on certain skills you'd need a specialist for.
@@Argenteux it would be crazy though. Imagine 7 dudes all 6'6-6'10 just out there doing a little bit of everything. All good, long, athletic defenders who can shoot, dribble and pass. I would absolutely love to see that
@@peacemaker4829 literally this heat team. 8 different guys lead the team in assists throughout the year. 8 different guys led rebounding 7 different leading scorers…
@@peacemaker4829 That's the Clippers bro
It's no surprise that Denver is having the success they're having if you pay attention to the fact they play with the same energy on both ends of the court. Outside of the Warriors, every team that wins the ship, does so by committing to focus more on defense. The reason this works is because offense comes and goes, but defense is always ready and waiting to answer the bell.
They really play as a team. A cohesive single minded unit. It’s hard to explain. But when your team, is a real team. A brotherhood of sorts. It makes a huge difference. When you all know what each other is thinking with a glance
@@Olsenator And the proof is in the pudding. So many rosters are about to be exposed as being thrown together at the last minute and thanks to the new CBA, they just won't be able to get away with it anymore.
The Nuggets have forced the league to rethink how a championship-winning roster is built. Many teams right now are panicking and throwing large sums of money at star players to somehow make up the difference for their revolving door of benchwarmers.
That's not even getting around to the smart teams that are either preparing themselves for either Denver or one of their clones (some teams will try and replicate them), or try another avenue (others will try and work against their offense with defensive schemes instead).
@@BlindfoldSniper yessir! I also kind of love how jokic doesn’t really care and his true passion is horses lol just grudgingly playing in the nba and being the best
@@Olsenatorremember when he won the ring? Post game interview, You can see he really really wanted to go home and we all know he wanna go back to his horses😂
@@HARTTG he was bummed because he didn’t know there was a party he had to attend haha he had already planned on going home to the horses! He just seems. Normal.
There are many other ways to rig an entire league. Without affecting knitty gritty aspects related to refs and injuries. An astute accountant and investigator could confirm this.
the fact that people have made something being scripted like there's an actual paper script being handed out is ridiculous...
My hot take is that this video needed at least 1 or 2 more hot takes because I always need more analysis from Jxmy. Thanks for putting in the work as always brother! Maybe spoil us with a Part 2 later in the series...?
Hot take: If Jimmy and the Heat win this championship, Jordan and Jimmy need to take a DNA test to see if they're related.
they cant Dallas. It wont happen.
1989 (same year as jimmys dob) jordan dropped the jordan 4 park poster with the words j butler, Jimmy, and James (mjs dads name) all in the background
He was drafted by the bulls
Signed to Jordan brand
Wore 23 on the twolves
Recently got the blessing from pat riley to be able to wear 23 on Miami (it’s retired in honor of Jordan)
Their frame is identical
Their game is identical except jordan was a bit more athletic
They clearly look alike
Was kicked out by his mom at the age of 13 for “looking like his dad”
In that same year mj got his first divorce (2002)
9 months before he was born mj was in the state of Texas (jimmy’s homestate) playing games 😏
Dude even likes golf 😭😭
If it looks like a duck… y’all know the rest
@@adcrell A but more athlectic? Waaay more athlectic waaay bigger hands and much better pay up package and dunker and midrange shooter but Butler have that drive like Mj and I wouldnt put it totally past that Jimmy Jordan is Jordans son but even if he was he is still only half the player Mj was but it not bad to be half Mj when he is easily the best player ever
@@mixedpleasure4324 of course mj is literally 1 of 1. Hyper athletic. Jimmy does have a 39 in vertical but you’re not lying.
that Houston run was magical.. remember watching every playoff game they had and was astonished every game...
Thanks, good presentation
Former nba refs got caught rigging games to win Vegas bets. There is a whole podcast on it somewhere because the guy is out of jail or never went or something like that. I don't really watch basketball, but the rigged take isn't that far fetched.
NBA is not rigged. It is just gently nudged into a certain outcome.
Nah
yah
they can’t rig it fully or else no one would watch it, it is rigged in the sense that they try to extend series whenever possible.
@@edddie7563 exactly. The entire outcome of the playoffs is not predetermined, but certain games are absolutely rigged to keep them close or extend the series. Things like KD getting hurt are not part of a script… that’s just shit happening
with this youtuber, the NBA is "jimmy'ed"
Very enjoyable great content great great narration
My man white chocolate a passer too bro.. give him love hahaha
No big man will ever fairly be comparable to Dirk, he shot the ball in an era where there was little floor spacing and the mavericks have never had great spacing until the turn of the three ball. Dirk's shooting prowess is of the highest calibre a big man will ever reach.
To be fair jokic doesnt realy play like dirk. Jokic dominate inside and under the paint while dirk was more of a midrange shooter just like durant.
Never fail to amaze us with each upload Jimmy
ya'll d* ride for no apparent reason lmao. jimmy has some incredible videos, but this is probably one of the most low effort videos he's got. there's literally nothing special here
Are u not amused?
@@jahjoeka always have been when ever he uploads
I don’t necessarily think the "NBA is rigged” theory is a bad take. At the end of the day, the NBA is a business. They probably aren’t "rigged” at the extent you explained in the video, but it’s a good amount of evidence out there that supports they might have mettled with the integrity of the game. You have Tim Donaghy that has been saying for years refs have influenced multiple games to lean one way.
It’s rigged.
@@DAV3RAG3This Jimmy dude gets so wet over the NBA that he's blind and in denial of the truth. Evan turner literally just admitted it's rigged recently on a podcast. But of course Jimmy will act like the footage doesn't exist
I agree, I feel like for sure it's a tiny bit rigged. They don't write the scripts, but I think they will give the teams they want to win favorable refs/calls. I think they do it fairly subtly to maintain the illusion, but I've watched enough lakers games to know the league definitely slightly pulls for them.
@@lummymanpix it’s slanted towards who they would rather win.
It's absolutely rigged lol
For the first hot take reaction… THANK YOU, like how do people not think of these things and very obvious and clear reasons rigging just DOESN’T work in any way in the professional sports world (in Western sports at least)
Love the Rockets breakdown! A lot of ppl dont know how cold they were!
Forgot to mention Big Shot Bob, tho.
Also one thing, Kenny discussed that season with Sir Charles on Inside the NBA.
The Rockets came back from being 3-1 down against a great Suns team.
Its always a great day when Jimmy uploads 🔥 JxmyHigholler is by far my favourite youtuber. Every single video is quality at it's finest. Love watching all of your videos 💯
Not the UNDRAFTABLES! 🤣
the NBA is manipulated. They pretty much admit to it, but whenever that convo comes up its always a strawman argument saying "this couldn't be rigged because of x!" Like its not fully rigged, the league manipulates the game when they know fans like you will let them get away with it and make their argument for them.
Some of the offensive boards that Jokic manages to come up with are beyond impressive. He will reach into three defenders, pop the ball out, track it down, and start initiating the offense. He will beat 4 guys for a board night in and night out. He is always thinking about getting good rebounding positioning while the play is going on if he's not initiating the action. He boxes out better than anybody else in the league.
He's averaged 13.3 rebounds per game in the last two post seasons. 3 of those are offensive. Moses Malone averaged 14 or more rebounds in only four of his postseasons, his highest being 20 in 1979. When Malone played, possessions per game were much higher and shooting percentages were much lower. He also was confined to the paint, and didn't have to go out to the perimeter anywhere close to as much as Jokic does. So Jokic gets less opportunities, but puts up comparable numbers.
I don't think it's a stretch to say Jokic is one of the best rebounders to ever play the game. I think he would have a lot more rebounds if he played in the 70s or 80s, and he's averaging 13 right now.
7 play-offs he averaged over 14 (including 1 in ABA) and his career playoff rebounding average is 14. Moses also averaged 5-6 offensive boards through most of his peak and had 20RPG in a post season. Jokers best reb post season would be 9th best for Moses. So no Joker is no where near Moses as a rebounder. He's more comparable to Kevin Love in his Minny days as a rebounder complete with the boxing out and passing on quickly/outlet passing. Plus Moses was a beast on the offensive boards (averaged 10 ORPG in one post season).
Jokers a great rebounder but Moses is a horrible comparison.
Yeah joker far superior and Moses stat padded. Most overrated all time
@@jake8748 you ignored all the context the dude used lmao 🤣. Cap more
He might have a good amount of rebounds for the pace of his era.
The game was faster in the 80’s, and assuredly the 70’s too.
@chauvintookaknee4blm268 except Moses still beats him in rebounds per 100 possessions too, and any other advanced stat, so that context was also made up stats. Moses is one of the best rebounders ever. You have to be seriously delusional if you think Joker is even top 25 best rebounders of all time. Joker is a better player but this was specifically aimed at his rebounding.
Oh also about that pace or whatever. Average rebounds per NBA game during Moses years is all in the same range of 43-47 that current seasons mostly fall in.
Moses averaged double Jokers offensive boards per game, more per game by a large amount, higher rebound percentages, more per possession. Joker needs to increase his RPG by around 20% for the next 9 years to get close to Moses averages. That would be unheard of, most big men slow down quickly in their early 30s so I dont see Joker playing better at 37 then he is now.
So like I said horrible comparison player on that stat.
Watching Murray and Jokic is like watching Prime Parker and Prime Duncan. so hard to defend
All they need now is a solid sixth man type like Ginobili
Or a modernized Stockton and Malone
@@foolishspecialist7479 aaron gordon and porter jr kinda fits that role , they tag team in every other game who bursts with great pats performances
@@NostalgicMem0ries Not true. They're both so uncotrolled and not reliable. I guarantee that the Heat will come back next game with a stronger game-plan for those other guys. Coach doesn't care about the Jokic or Murray, maybe a little bit, but Jokic going off his usual, Murray won't have a triple double again. Neither will Aaron Gordon or Porter Jr have that good of games again. Butler's gotta step up next game and be a monster and a menace.
@@zaynes5094 because comments like these jimixroller makes videos like this :D no one knows what will happen, who will play his best game of career, maybe porter will drop 30 now, maybe that young kid who gone berserk in last quarter. nuggets would not be in finals if porter or gordon werent reliable.
I do believe there is contact between gambling agencies and players during games that stops people from winning parleys
My hot take- The NBA is not rigged, but big market teams do get a handicap similar to golf. The handicap isn't official or hidden, but a result of natural phenomenon. Smaller market teams like Denver can beat big market teams like LA, but they need to be much much better to overcome the handicap.
Someone would argue thats literally what people mean when they say rigged😂
Hot take: the quality of Jimmy's videos these days is off the charts
This is not a hot take, man always comes with the heat!
man jimmy so inspirational- getting me through the middle of the night 🥶
Currently 2:12 AM lol
Go to sleep
Calling or not calling fouls matter more in the FINALS than in any regular season game. It can sway the momentum and bring a team back from a deficit in the 4th quarter.
About time you figured it out
Late night uploads are elite keep them coming❤
Never disappointed with any video that never misses a beat in quality. The most consistent NBA youtuber out there.
If they’re rigging, I want more entertaining trash talking and locker room promos, we coming for you nuggetz 😂
What’s the name of the sad song in the beginning that shit is fire
Hot take: They should return the championship trophy on the court's logo in all Finals games.
this not even a hot take its a fact
Non hot take
Love the hot takes breakdowns, the sad music at the start gets me every time 😂
people who say jokic is not good and dont deserve the ring are the same people who say Lebum james is better than MJ
Refs literally got caught betting on the games and calling them to win the bets 🙄