The PPSh is such an outstanding weapon. Outstanding cartridge, high rate of fire, low cost and time of production, superb accuracy and recoil control, could penetrate a steel helmet, and a good effective range for a pistol cartridge. All in a simple, reliable, effective package. No idea why the Soviets discarded the 7.62x25. Probably the best cartridge ever used in a service handgun.
While this will almost certainly bring about disagreement I think 7.62x25 is a superior submachine gun cartridge over the other two most common WW2 SMG cartridges: 9x19 Parabellum and .45 ACP. Although I think the Soviet development of 7.62x25 had more to do with being able to use existing 7.62 tooling to manufacture barrels along with their history with the C96 Mauser pistol, rather than choosing 7.62x25 for its superior ballistics. Nevertheless it seems their decision to switch to 9x18 Makarov was influenced mostly by it being cheaper to build straight blowback pistols. They tested updated Tokarev prototypes which used 15rd double-stack magazines with heel releases, but they wanted a more modern double action pistol with modern safety features like a decocker & firing pin block, _and_ they wanted it to be cheap. Although they continued the use of the TT pistol along with M1895 Nagant until the end of the 20th century.
@@FinalFront Out of an SMG, its simple math that 7.62x25 was a more versitile cartridge. Now out of handgun? Ok people can debate that but Tokarev ammo just did well with a 10" barrel. 9x18, while it has limited range, it is actually quite a great self defense round at well....self defense ranges. Keep in mind, the Makarov was adopted in the same era as the AK.
Russian never seemed to proud to copy a good idea .They recognized its virtues and try to improve and simplify if possible. A good trait,unlike some other countries. Love the ppsh41,might have to settle for the yugo version..thumbs up!
Greetings, I was just speaking with the wife how it has been so many years since we lived in Russia. I am curious how things have changed and also how they have stayed the same. Right now due to family commitments, we can not leave here but perhaps later in life, we can have an extended visit or even work for a year. I think I would enjoy that at this stage in life, cheers.
@@misha5670 And now the government introduced new changes, raised the age of obtaining a license from 18 to 21, but that's not all, they are developing new tightening. In general, it's a lot of fun)
I was watching a recent forgotten weapons video on the British 303 aircraft guns and it was explained one of the issues they had was cook off, I was under the understanding that open bolt guns don’t have a round in the chamber when the bolt is held in the ready position so I’m curious how this transpired
@@FinalFront Yep, and cook off can happen in theory with an open bolt too...if its so hot that the heat ignites the round before the firing pin can...but that's really freakin' hot haha.
@@misha5670 Yeah it'd definitely have to be hot for an open bolt gun to cook off, heh. Especially with advanced primer ignition. Which even many open bolt submachine guns use a rudimentary version of API, as noted by Maxim Popenker in his book "Machine Gun".
@@FinalFront Hell, with 6 million made? Not totally shocked someone, somewhere found another bunker or ware house with a few 100,000s stashed away. I hope people have fun building them up into fun semis or even display guns.
Good video thank you for keeping them coming. Haven't been watching them as much as I should. My life has been getting sucked up and Wasted by watching all these corrupt politics and news.
@@misha5670 yeah pretty much true. Just a bunch of drama with no real content or outcome that you hope for. I just keep watching hoping that something is going to change or that there's something I should be doing to help it change. But always the same bologna. But anyways I will try to kick the habit and goodnight hope you have a good weekend. Thanks again.
@@steveh7108 Watching or not won't effect the outcome...or rather inactivity is often the case lol. I do think watching gives the illusion of control, but its just that, illusion. All we can do is live our best lives and try and be our best selves. I think sharing our values and ideals is all an average person can do. That builds commmunity, and if we do that, then we are more unified, and then we do create some actual political power. This is why the governing class has (successfully) adopted a divide & conquer attitude.
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Do you own all the guns that we can see in your videos? I'm really jealous. I'm a gun collector living in Belgium, i have about 20-25 guns mostly from ww1 and ww2 era. I also have a PPSH but demilitarised, it's the only way in my country to get an full auto/ex full auto gun, only for the collection... Also have a chinese type 56 but demilitarised too
Just depends. Remember, i own a gunshop also. So if something neat comes in, i try and share it here with everyone. I will say that i do own this PPSh41. I had a small batch of them come in back in 2010. I just had to set one back for myself. Who wouldn't want an original? But failing that, a semi-auto built with mostly all original SMG parts is 2nd best I say.
When i bought my first X25 pistol, it was a bad time. It was right in between surplus batches. The Chinese stuff was gone, but the stuff from Eastern Europe hadn't hit our shores quite yet. I remember paying through the nose for 50 rd boxes from Winchester.
Look into the Degtyarev PPD. This design dates back to 1930-1933 and has a more direct relationship with the PPSh. That said, the Russians were no fools (sometimes) and were happyt to barrow when it was a good idea.
Fired a full auto ppsh 41 in a range before. It is surprisingly controllable
Yep, sure is...the brake hleps, as does the overall weight. Also, 7.62x25 itself actually isn't to harsh to shoot even out of a pistol.
The PPSh is such an outstanding weapon. Outstanding cartridge, high rate of fire, low cost and time of production, superb accuracy and recoil control, could penetrate a steel helmet, and a good effective range for a pistol cartridge. All in a simple, reliable, effective package. No idea why the Soviets discarded the 7.62x25. Probably the best cartridge ever used in a service handgun.
While this will almost certainly bring about disagreement I think 7.62x25 is a superior submachine gun cartridge over the other two most common WW2 SMG cartridges: 9x19 Parabellum and .45 ACP. Although I think the Soviet development of 7.62x25 had more to do with being able to use existing 7.62 tooling to manufacture barrels along with their history with the C96 Mauser pistol, rather than choosing 7.62x25 for its superior ballistics. Nevertheless it seems their decision to switch to 9x18 Makarov was influenced mostly by it being cheaper to build straight blowback pistols. They tested updated Tokarev prototypes which used 15rd double-stack magazines with heel releases, but they wanted a more modern double action pistol with modern safety features like a decocker & firing pin block, _and_ they wanted it to be cheap. Although they continued the use of the TT pistol along with M1895 Nagant until the end of the 20th century.
@@FinalFront Out of an SMG, its simple math that 7.62x25 was a more versitile cartridge. Now out of handgun? Ok people can debate that but Tokarev ammo just did well with a 10" barrel. 9x18, while it has limited range, it is actually quite a great self defense round at well....self defense ranges. Keep in mind, the Makarov was adopted in the same era as the AK.
Russian never seemed to proud to copy a good idea .They recognized its virtues and try to improve and simplify if possible. A good trait,unlike some other countries.
Love the ppsh41,might have to settle for the yugo version..thumbs up!
Its interesting to compare Russian vs Chinese brands of copying items.
BOOORRRINGGGG.
Thanks for your videos, and Hi 👋 from Russia!
Greetings, I was just speaking with the wife how it has been so many years since we lived in Russia. I am curious how things have changed and also how they have stayed the same. Right now due to family commitments, we can not leave here but perhaps later in life, we can have an extended visit or even work for a year. I think I would enjoy that at this stage in life, cheers.
@@misha5670
Cool! In general, we are doing well, although the law of arms is not as good as yours)
@@red_bakelit This i remember from days gone by...and I have read things have gotten slightly more restrictive since 2010-2011.
@@misha5670 And now
the government introduced new changes, raised the age of obtaining a license from 18 to 21, but that's not all, they are developing new tightening. In general, it's a lot of fun)
I was watching a recent forgotten weapons video on the British 303 aircraft guns and it was explained one of the issues they had was cook off, I was under the understanding that open bolt guns don’t have a round in the chamber when the bolt is held in the ready position so I’m curious how this transpired
Well the Browning Mk II .303 aircraft machine guns used by the British fired from a closed bolt, same as the M1919 they were derived from.
@@FinalFront Yep, and cook off can happen in theory with an open bolt too...if its so hot that the heat ignites the round before the firing pin can...but that's really freakin' hot haha.
@@FinalFront ahhh okay, this explains it
@@misha5670 Yeah it'd definitely have to be hot for an open bolt gun to cook off, heh. Especially with advanced primer ignition. Which even many open bolt submachine guns use a rudimentary version of API, as noted by Maxim Popenker in his book "Machine Gun".
@@FinalFront Yep, thus 'theoretical' My point was anything can get hot enough if fired too long.
Hard to beat the Shpagin in that era.
The Germans found that out.
I like that firearm!
Kp9 history look into mishco thank you.
Sorry, not sure what you mean?
Back in the USSR?
Don't know how lucky you are..
Yep...I'm old enough to know where that's from lol.
@@misha5670 would you believe that I only turned 25 a few days ago?
That song was 30 years old when I was born. 😆 I'm a history guy, nevertheless. 😎
Some nice kits available as of late.(soviet ppsh41) Such a cool looking rifle very cool Misha.
Yeah a whole boatload of 1943 - 1945 kits came in to the US recently. Surprised me.
@@FinalFront Hell, with 6 million made? Not totally shocked someone, somewhere found another bunker or ware house with a few 100,000s stashed away. I hope people have fun building them up into fun semis or even display guns.
@@misha5670 nah we making them post samples without a license we got balls
@@TheOriginalShoneBoyOnYT Hehe
Good video thank you for keeping them coming.
Haven't been watching them as much as I should.
My life has been getting sucked up and Wasted by watching all these corrupt politics and news.
People need to step back from the political stuff. Its turned into reality TV...or even daytime sopes.
@@misha5670 yeah pretty much true.
Just a bunch of drama with no real content or outcome that you hope for.
I just keep watching hoping that something is going to change or that there's something I should be doing to help it change.
But always the same bologna.
But anyways I will try to kick the habit and goodnight hope you have a good weekend.
Thanks again.
@@steveh7108 Watching or not won't effect the outcome...or rather inactivity is often the case lol. I do think watching gives the illusion of control, but its just that, illusion. All we can do is live our best lives and try and be our best selves. I think sharing our values and ideals is all an average person can do. That builds commmunity, and if we do that, then we are more unified, and then we do create some actual political power. This is why the governing class has (successfully) adopted a divide & conquer attitude.
@@misha5670 thanks, you are extremely knowledgeable.
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Spam is spam, and there happens to be a lot of it regarding scams involving crypto, but anyone who likes guns, ammo, and precious metals, and dislikes the government and the Federal Reserve banking cartel, owes it to themselves to learn about crypto. The properties that make it appealing to scammers also make it appealing to liberty-oriented individuals.
Do you own all the guns that we can see in your videos? I'm really jealous. I'm a gun collector living in Belgium, i have about 20-25 guns mostly from ww1 and ww2 era.
I also have a PPSH but demilitarised, it's the only way in my country to get an full auto/ex full auto gun, only for the collection... Also have a chinese type 56 but demilitarised too
Just depends. Remember, i own a gunshop also. So if something neat comes in, i try and share it here with everyone. I will say that i do own this PPSh41. I had a small batch of them come in back in 2010. I just had to set one back for myself. Who wouldn't want an original? But failing that, a semi-auto built with mostly all original SMG parts is 2nd best I say.
I wish 7.62x25 was more popular
When i bought my first X25 pistol, it was a bad time. It was right in between surplus batches. The Chinese stuff was gone, but the stuff from Eastern Europe hadn't hit our shores quite yet. I remember paying through the nose for 50 rd boxes from Winchester.
The PPSH41 is perhaps one of the best submachine guns of World War II
But it was certainly copied from the Finnish Suomi KP31 submachine gun
Look into the Degtyarev PPD. This design dates back to 1930-1933 and has a more direct relationship with the PPSh. That said, the Russians were no fools (sometimes) and were happyt to barrow when it was a good idea.
Not copied design. The drug magazine on the other hand, was directly copied from the Suomi.
I'm so jealous
I'm glad I get to listen to this now as my dad builds his ppsh-41 parts kit
7.62x25 go Brrr lol
One heck of a shotgun.
Shpagin is my daddy!... no he’s not. That’s a lie.
Pretty sure he ended up being Hitler's daddy hehe.
@@misha5670 Pretty much, lol.
So boring. He could have made this more "enlightening" by talking with a bit more enthusiasm.
@@wernervoss6357 Well, I do have a cat named Hobo.
I hear they've made good progress in treating ADHD. Maybe talk with your doctor about a new scrip?