Superb teaching. You are showing things clearly, and are very communicative and paced in your explanation, while not talking down to your audience. Great job!
The Doepfer TDEL is the one I use in my studio modular. Set the delay to zero (full CCW), and use the gate duration as a "hold out" to prevent unwanted triggers.
This is a great series of videos. Thanks for taking the time to put this out there. Really informative and you do a great job of walking through your patches.
A lot of it comes down to how you clock the sequencer. There are several modules that can create interesting patterns of clocks to feed a sequencer, such as the Malekko Varigate. It also helps if the sequencer has a way to choose the trigger outputs per stage, such as the Doepfer and RYO in the videos - you can choose to leave out some steps to gets rests etc.
Im using the 4m RCD with expander, WMD SSM with expander and the makenoise Rene. I am going to try this ratcheting as you have shown in this video and see if it takes me down a rabbit hole. thanks!
In case you didn't see, there's 4 videos total in my ratcheting series; the others might give you additional ideas to try out: th-cam.com/play/PLli7NH8pJF8TgLci8HhcbCYBespKDBGMX.html
Take a look at the Rebel Technology Phoreo. After you clock it, you send in any trigger pattern (or just use the clock) and then you can multiply that incoming clock and set a specific amount of repeats. Those two parameters are cv controllable, so what that means is you can use a sequencer to sequence which steps get multiplication or repeats. You should be able to approximate some of the Metropolis functionality with these features.
Hi I am really enjoying your Channel. At 4 minutes you mention that you would in some cases need to be careful with patching with a multiple and that in this case, your module has diode protection. I was wondering if you could elaborate on when & why someone would need to take care like this in order to avoid causing damage to modules. Do you have a video about this topic by any chance? Thanks again
Hi - In general, you do not want to patch where an output is connected to another output. This includes patching a few outputs into the same passive multiple. In many cases, this would cause the output of one module to try to drive the output of another module, which can cause damage. However, a few manufacturers have built protection into the output of their modules to prevent this damage. For example, on trigger and gate outputs, some manufacturers add a diode that allows a voltage to only flow in one direction - so another output cannot flow back into it. This means if you want to combine multiple trigger patterns into one composite pattern, you only need to use a passive mult to add those streams together. (Otherwise, something like an OR logic module would be required.) In general, do not assume you can patch an output to an output. But if a manufacturer specifically mentions in the manual that it's okay to do it with that module, then it's safe (for that module).
@@LearningModular Thanks for pointing out that output to output is the main kind of patching to avoid. If you could do please, I would like a little more clarity on some points you made. 1. I assume that what you mean by "patching a few outputs into the same passive multiple" is using a passive multiple in the reverse direction to mix several signals? And in doing so the routing within the multiple could cause the signal to go in the unintended direction into one of the output ports of one of the modules. Is that right? 2. You said, "if you want to combine multiple trigger patterns into one composite pattern, you only need to use a passive mult to add those streams together". In saying this, are you implying that an active multiple would be a safe way to mix trigger patterns as long as the modules being used have the one direction diode? 3. Do some manufacturers add a protective diode to outputs that are generally intended for audio signals too? Or only trigger and gate outputs? Thanks again.
1) Yes. They are just meant to split one signal into multiple signals, but some try to use them as a mixer - which is bad idea unless you explicitly know that the connected modules are okay with it. 2) Active multiples have just one input and multiple outputs, so by definition cannot be used to mix. (Compared to passive multiples, where any jack can be used as an input or an output. But you only want to use one as an input.) 3) The type of protection on audio or CV outputs would be different than a diode, as diodes slice a small voltage off go signals going in the "right" direction. You will see some manufacturers say that you can also patch their non-gate outputs to other outputs, but it is less common than with gates.
Superb teaching. You are showing things clearly, and are very communicative and paced in your explanation, while not talking down to your audience. Great job!
Under the Big Tree agreed!
This guy is the man!
Excellent lesson! I just ordered my first modular clock and sequential switch.
I just stumbled upon this. I'm going to have to study all four videos as I LOVE ratcheting. The ratcheting on some of the Redshift albums is sublime.
This is really awesome! Very well illustrated, especially for something that takes so much patching just to create a simple effect!
great demo, thanks. could you please give an example of a gate processor, as you mention at 6:58?
The Doepfer TDEL is the one I use in my studio modular. Set the delay to zero (full CCW), and use the gate duration as a "hold out" to prevent unwanted triggers.
This is a great series of videos. Thanks for taking the time to put this out there. Really informative and you do a great job of walking through your patches.
Chris Franke's rhythmic legacy done slightly different :)
thanks for this trick
Thanks for this I just learned more info 🤙🤙
excellent video.
Awesome video. Can you think of a way to get behavior similar to a metropolis (hold, odd value repeats etc) with a typicaly 8 step sequencer?
A lot of it comes down to how you clock the sequencer. There are several modules that can create interesting patterns of clocks to feed a sequencer, such as the Malekko Varigate. It also helps if the sequencer has a way to choose the trigger outputs per stage, such as the Doepfer and RYO in the videos - you can choose to leave out some steps to gets rests etc.
Im using the 4m RCD with expander, WMD SSM with expander and the makenoise Rene.
I am going to try this ratcheting as you have shown in this video and see if it takes me down a rabbit hole.
thanks!
In case you didn't see, there's 4 videos total in my ratcheting series; the others might give you additional ideas to try out:
th-cam.com/play/PLli7NH8pJF8TgLci8HhcbCYBespKDBGMX.html
Take a look at the Rebel Technology Phoreo. After you clock it, you send in any trigger pattern (or just use the clock) and then you can multiply that incoming clock and set a specific amount of repeats. Those two parameters are cv controllable, so what that means is you can use a sequencer to sequence which steps get multiplication or repeats. You should be able to approximate some of the Metropolis functionality with these features.
Great video thanks!
Well demonstrated.
very clear, thanks!
cool. subscribed to your channel. video is great.
Hi I am really enjoying your Channel.
At 4 minutes you mention that you would in some cases need to be careful with patching with a multiple and that in this case, your module has diode protection. I was wondering if you could elaborate on when & why someone would need to take care like this in order to avoid causing damage to modules.
Do you have a video about this topic by any chance?
Thanks again
Hi -
In general, you do not want to patch where an output is connected to another output. This includes patching a few outputs into the same passive multiple. In many cases, this would cause the output of one module to try to drive the output of another module, which can cause damage.
However, a few manufacturers have built protection into the output of their modules to prevent this damage. For example, on trigger and gate outputs, some manufacturers add a diode that allows a voltage to only flow in one direction - so another output cannot flow back into it. This means if you want to combine multiple trigger patterns into one composite pattern, you only need to use a passive mult to add those streams together. (Otherwise, something like an OR logic module would be required.)
In general, do not assume you can patch an output to an output. But if a manufacturer specifically mentions in the manual that it's okay to do it with that module, then it's safe (for that module).
@@LearningModular Thanks for pointing out that output to output is the main kind of patching to avoid. If you could do please, I would like a little more clarity on some points you made.
1. I assume that what you mean by "patching a few outputs into the same passive multiple" is using a passive multiple in the reverse direction to mix several signals? And in doing so the routing within the multiple could cause the signal to go in the unintended direction into one of the output ports of one of the modules. Is that right?
2. You said, "if you want to combine multiple trigger patterns into one composite pattern, you only need to use a passive mult to add those streams together".
In saying this, are you implying that an active multiple would be a safe way to mix trigger patterns as long as the modules being used have the one direction diode?
3. Do some manufacturers add a protective diode to outputs that are generally intended for audio signals too? Or only trigger and gate outputs?
Thanks again.
1) Yes. They are just meant to split one signal into multiple signals, but some try to use them as a mixer - which is bad idea unless you explicitly know that the connected modules are okay with it.
2) Active multiples have just one input and multiple outputs, so by definition cannot be used to mix. (Compared to passive multiples, where any jack can be used as an input or an output. But you only want to use one as an input.)
3) The type of protection on audio or CV outputs would be different than a diode, as diodes slice a small voltage off go signals going in the "right" direction. You will see some manufacturers say that you can also patch their non-gate outputs to other outputs, but it is less common than with gates.
@@LearningModular Great thanks a lot for your help its appreciated : )
This is where modular gets way too complicated and I get lost and stop enjoying myself
Great info. Thanks