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4:19 Yah, people are already complaining that he’s not on the road to find Wanda.. even though she’s one of my top characters in the MCU it irritates me that people see Billy as ONLY an extension of her character. He’s his own character and has his own perspective, him not being dead set on finding Wanda currently makes sense from where he’s coming from. Also in Children’s Crusade when Billy and Tommy go to find Wanda, Billy and Tommy reunited before they decided to do that together. That’s when they found that she was trapped by Doom after her memory was lost.
He also doesn't refer to her as 'mom' in the comics, but as "Wanda." He is very much Billy Kaplan in the comics. Here, he doesn't even remember Wanda, but has had 3 years with Rebecca. Of course he's not going to just suddenly see Wanda as mom.
@@hermeticallysealed1 Yup, exactly, I said this in another comment section on TikTok and someone said “The MCU and comics aren’t the same”… and it’s like..?? Obviously that is the same, the show just told us.
@@hermeticallysealed1 You obviously never read the Children's Crusade comic series. He DOES call her Mom and treat her as such even if he also treats his parents like parents.
Bro I just realized Lilia is basically the witch version of Robin from Agents of Shield and their character arcs are also so similar. This is such a fun concept to play with as an ability.
Sharon Davis (RIP Mrs. Hart) said that under Westview should have just been the abandoned subway. That is where the Subway out leads to, Westview New Jersey, so almost New York (and home to Ms Marvel).
i'm giving benefit of a doubt to the formatting of the sentence, but just for anyone else, kamala khan was born and raised in jersey city, new jersey. her family prob lives in louisiana after the marvels, but ms marvel's from jersey. people think a good chunk of new jersey stuff is just more NYC, but i gotta make it clear that kamala khan is absolutely new jersey's own.
@@nox_tech_ Yeah, I meant Jersey was the home of Kamala. I ordered the sentence as I heard it in my mind, but you cannot really hear the tone of what I'm typing so I get how you thought I meant New York is her home.
15:52 She took Agatha's son. Agatha made a deal for the Darkhold, and her son, Nicholas, was the price she had to pay. Rio didn't want to do it (as she said back in episode 4), but she didn't have a choice, she is Death, she takes the souls of the dead to the afterlife, but she has no say over when a person dies (to my understanding anyways).
Yeah, she doesnt cause death directly and cant kill, but she is literally DEATH, she (Death's favorite form to assume is female), is the Grim Reaper, she collects mortals at the end of the road of life.
23:34 I completely agree, whenever there’s a focus on Wiccan, Agatha, Lilia, or Rio they just make you completely forget about everyone else. Like I was so invested in Lilia’s story I completely forgot about the possibility that Rio’s identity might be revealed which I had been expecting.
The delivery of “I loved being a witch” 😭😭😭 Also this entire episode was shot and edited so beautiful, there were so many creative sequences. Also the Lady Death reveal got spoiled for me because of the Funko Pop leak weeks ago around when the 3rd episode aired, but the visual of it was really cool and eerie.
@@JustGavinBennett Yup, Death and Wiccan got ones which confirmed both of the reveals super early on 😭 Unfortunately Death’s doesn’t have the half skull face or knife but she’s got the full green dress and crown, I’m definitely considering getting them..
@@nataliabusko1432 Wiccan was obvious but Rio really wasn’t.. everyone was still theorizing until the Funkos were leaked. A lot of people claiming to have “theorized” that it was Death after the Funkos leaked… were usually lying and saw the leaks. It could’ve been the character Black Heart like many were thinking and the black heart never got explained until last episode. Regardless of how obvious, it was obnoxiously stupid for Funko to allow that leak to happen. Franchises like Marvel and Star Wars need to stop trusting Funko and Lego until they get their stuff together and can keep a secret.
She doesn't need to live through it to see the future. The out of order is part of her powers but not the extent. I.e. she can still read palms and stuff normally.
She divines which means she doesn't have to be there to see the future. For instance she wasn't there when William died but she foresaw it. No one told her he died the night she did his reading yet she says 'I saw what would happen to you that night.'' Also at this point i don't think he remembers being Billy Maximoff because he says he was surprised by his power. he knows he can read minds but that's the only power he knew he had. If he had remembered being Billy he would have known he had more powers. He said he senses Tommy but I doubt he actually remembers him. He seems surprised when Ralph tells him Wanda had kids and had to ask their names.
23:55 AOS was a great show. I kinda hate how people moved on from it after season 4. But at least it didn't get cancelled without a proper resolution (I'm not going to spoil it don't worry). I'm going to start watching your AOS reactions when we finish Agatha (I can't believe it's going to be over in less than a week).
18:42 I'm sorry to say, but Lilia was one of those. She saw what was going to happen to William/Billy and wasn't around when that happened. It just happens that she *also* experiences life out of order.
I think Lilia has two forms of future knowledge. - She is a Divination Witch, so her magic, spells, and tools like Tarot ot tea leaves etc. give her glimpses of what MAY happen. - She is The Traveller. Her active mind moves through time, which allows her to see some things that WILL happen. She can use her visions and magic to warn or advise, possibly lessening or averting what she has "Seen". Things she has seen (by BEING there) are fixed and cannot be changed. Her triumph was to realize which was which, because until now she thought everything was pointless, that she was a fraud. Now she knows differently.
To give the direction you need to know the way, to know the way you need to be on it at least once. Lilia has lived once to learn and live a second "loop" to tell. She is in a loop, she is dead but she is alive.
@@MichaelTibbs-l5e maybe the road for divination witches is a way to escape the "curse" they have, a hail Mary, for witches who want to change the fate of their lifes. If that is the case sometime they might need to die in the road to "set things right". That or the road kills the witches because as we see with our beloved Yellow Witch, the time jumps become too frequent and can lead to a state of "delirium", and for their power to be complete they need to control it to the full extent. If i made it too complicated i'm sorry, not a native english speaker.
5:16 I feel like the Maleficent outfit is kinda perfect for him since her 2nd movie was about her hidden potential where she transforms into something else. Kinda like how Billy will become the Demiurge.
…no she’s dead. She read Billy’s future and saw what he would become- that she won’t be there for. She said she didn’t read the future. She reads people and their reputations. So, when William stepped into tent, she was simply reading him. Also I remember seeing an interview with Patti and someone asked her if she’d come back for a season 2, and she almost let it slip that “that would be impossible.”
good observation on Lilia giving Agatha that heads up. I feel like young Lilia was seeing her entire future and maybe changes the outcome some way. Maybe the reason we don't hear her hit the swords is because we first see her falling in a dark void in the beginning.....maybe the trial of the tower disappears as she's falling and some how her consciousness goes back to her younger self and she finally realizes what she needs to do. It a reach of course.
The Tower reversed...just like Lilia said last episode. I'm speachless. What a great episode! Tarot cards are interesting. Obviously they don't work, right? But they make you think in different ways, which is always good.
Congrats on reaching 10k!! Hope you don't give up on TH-cam this time. You seem like you're really nice and sweet, so I don't think you'll have any problems building / expanding this community. :D And OMG this episode was just excellent. Loved it, cried watching it, and at the end accepted her fate (just like Lilia did). Death comes for us all. T_T PS: I think I've seen that blazer somewhere?? Or maybe it's just a common design. But it's reminding me of 90s and 00s shows/movies don't know why. xD
I just think you doesn’t need to finish the road but only your own trial. Sad but happy at the same time that she gets to set everything straight from the start ❤
I’ve been waiting on Lilia’s trial since she greeted Jen w “High Priestess” idk tarot like that, but I knew that was a card. But I get the feeling they got influence from The Arrival, one of my fav movies too.
Maybe not. It could be her spirit there somehow. Like if Rio collected Lilia’s and Ali’s spirit and they appeared during an intense power blast stalemate to tip the favor in Agatha’s favor - think like how Harry Potter’s parent’s spirits helped him in the final battle. But i do hope she is alive.
@@avys_is_meWhile she has her own “timepool” to swim in, Lilia is also a seer. As was her mentor. Either of them may have gleaned the events about which she warned Agatha.
Same but also she has to be in the room with Agatha next episode since she warned her of something she saw which she could only see if she was in the room with her later
@@JustGavinBennett That's right, although her divination method might not rely on just her "time-slipping"/had to be there. Maybe she can just see future events through her magic independent from her time-slipping abilities.
Favorite episode so far 😢😢😢 I hope if Lilia died she'd have a brief reunion with Alice. Also a reunion of Alice with her mom since they both died in the road.
@@JustGavinBennett completely off topic, but I wanted to thank you for repeatedly mentioning Marvel Snap; convinced me to give it's try and now I'm addicted
Billy is not one of the witches of the coven. His role is Agatha's familiar. The final trial will be that of the green witch, meaning Rio. So it will be very imteresting to see what kind of trial awaits Death herself!
It's been confirmed by the showrunner that Billy is the true fifth member of the coven (he is the black heart on Lilia's list, not Rio), and Rio isn't actually a member of the coven (she's "a tourist," as Agatha said in ep 4).
Only 5 of the Salem 7 hit the swords. Three of them could morphe into winged critters( cicada , owl, and crow) no way they all kicked the can/ bodied the sword
i mean.. lilia saw william's accident and she wasn't there so i think she does have the power to see the future, read palms, tarot, etc.. and the living out of order is kinda of a consequence of that
7:53 You really didn't notice? "Alice don't" "try to save Agatha" She was warning Alice to not try to save Agatha 'cause she would die because of that, but she returned to the first trial before finishing the sentence
Not sure about lilia having to live through her divinations. We haven't known her for long - I don't think she'll appear at the scene where agatha needs to "hit the deck".
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I'm crying what a beautiful episode
I did too😢
Lilia going "What I was missing was you, my coven" I cried (nvm she said smth else I forgot)
😭
@@jpjh8844He knows superb acting. Patti LuPone DELIVERED.
4:19 Yah, people are already complaining that he’s not on the road to find Wanda.. even though she’s one of my top characters in the MCU it irritates me that people see Billy as ONLY an extension of her character. He’s his own character and has his own perspective, him not being dead set on finding Wanda currently makes sense from where he’s coming from. Also in Children’s Crusade when Billy and Tommy go to find Wanda, Billy and Tommy reunited before they decided to do that together. That’s when they found that she was trapped by Doom after her memory was lost.
He also doesn't refer to her as 'mom' in the comics, but as "Wanda." He is very much Billy Kaplan in the comics. Here, he doesn't even remember Wanda, but has had 3 years with Rebecca. Of course he's not going to just suddenly see Wanda as mom.
@@hermeticallysealed1 Yup, exactly, I said this in another comment section on TikTok and someone said “The MCU and comics aren’t the same”… and it’s like..?? Obviously that is the same, the show just told us.
@@hermeticallysealed1 You obviously never read the Children's Crusade comic series. He DOES call her Mom and treat her as such even if he also treats his parents like parents.
Bro I just realized Lilia is basically the witch version of Robin from Agents of Shield and their character arcs are also so similar. This is such a fun concept to play with as an ability.
Sharon Davis (RIP Mrs. Hart) said that under Westview should have just been the abandoned subway. That is where the Subway out leads to, Westview New Jersey, so almost New York (and home to Ms Marvel).
Oh yeah I forgor
i'm giving benefit of a doubt to the formatting of the sentence, but just for anyone else, kamala khan was born and raised in jersey city, new jersey. her family prob lives in louisiana after the marvels, but ms marvel's from jersey. people think a good chunk of new jersey stuff is just more NYC, but i gotta make it clear that kamala khan is absolutely new jersey's own.
@@nox_tech_ Yeah, I meant Jersey was the home of Kamala.
I ordered the sentence as I heard it in my mind, but you cannot really hear the tone of what I'm typing so I get how you thought I meant New York is her home.
@@RiHikaru ooh yeah, no worries fam, i understand the mindset. ✌️✌️✌️
15:52 She took Agatha's son. Agatha made a deal for the Darkhold, and her son, Nicholas, was the price she had to pay. Rio didn't want to do it (as she said back in episode 4), but she didn't have a choice, she is Death, she takes the souls of the dead to the afterlife, but she has no say over when a person dies (to my understanding anyways).
Yeah, she doesnt cause death directly and cant kill, but she is literally DEATH, she (Death's favorite form to assume is female), is the Grim Reaper, she collects mortals at the end of the road of life.
23:34 I completely agree, whenever there’s a focus on Wiccan, Agatha, Lilia, or Rio they just make you completely forget about everyone else. Like I was so invested in Lilia’s story I completely forgot about the possibility that Rio’s identity might be revealed which I had been expecting.
Seriously, might be my favorite episode so far! Lilia really came through, she might be my favorite character.
The delivery of “I loved being a witch” 😭😭😭
Also this entire episode was shot and edited so beautiful, there were so many creative sequences.
Also the Lady Death reveal got spoiled for me because of the Funko Pop leak weeks ago around when the 3rd episode aired, but the visual of it was really cool and eerie.
Oh dang lol didnt know about the Funko pops but I bet they look pretty cool
@@JustGavinBennett Yup, Death and Wiccan got ones which confirmed both of the reveals super early on 😭
Unfortunately Death’s doesn’t have the half skull face or knife but she’s got the full green dress and crown, I’m definitely considering getting them..
Even without Funko pop that was sooo obvious
@@nataliabusko1432 Wiccan was obvious but Rio really wasn’t.. everyone was still theorizing until the Funkos were leaked. A lot of people claiming to have “theorized” that it was Death after the Funkos leaked… were usually lying and saw the leaks. It could’ve been the character Black Heart like many were thinking and the black heart never got explained until last episode.
Regardless of how obvious, it was obnoxiously stupid for Funko to allow that leak to happen. Franchises like Marvel and Star Wars need to stop trusting Funko and Lego until they get their stuff together and can keep a secret.
@@EM-fl5od it was obvious from 4rth episode. When they were with Agatha and she said that she will get her bodies
She doesn't need to live through it to see the future. The out of order is part of her powers but not the extent.
I.e. she can still read palms and stuff normally.
Yeah, and she said that she saw what would happen to William Kaplan. She wasn't there for that.
She divines which means she doesn't have to be there to see the future. For instance she wasn't there when William died but she foresaw it. No one told her he died the night she did his reading yet she says 'I saw what would happen to you that night.'' Also at this point i don't think he remembers being Billy Maximoff because he says he was surprised by his power. he knows he can read minds but that's the only power he knew he had. If he had remembered being Billy he would have known he had more powers. He said he senses Tommy but I doubt he actually remembers him. He seems surprised when Ralph tells him Wanda had kids and had to ask their names.
What a way to go! I loved this episode.
Nah I think shes alive because of what I say at the end but who knows
23:55 AOS was a great show. I kinda hate how people moved on from it after season 4. But at least it didn't get cancelled without a proper resolution (I'm not going to spoil it don't worry). I'm going to start watching your AOS reactions when we finish Agatha (I can't believe it's going to be over in less than a week).
18:42 I'm sorry to say, but Lilia was one of those. She saw what was going to happen to William/Billy and wasn't around when that happened.
It just happens that she *also* experiences life out of order.
I think Lilia has two forms of future knowledge.
- She is a Divination Witch, so her magic, spells, and tools like Tarot ot tea leaves etc. give her glimpses of what MAY happen.
- She is The Traveller. Her active mind moves through time, which allows her to see some things that WILL happen.
She can use her visions and magic to warn or advise, possibly lessening or averting what she has "Seen".
Things she has seen (by BEING there) are fixed and cannot be changed.
Her triumph was to realize which was which, because until now she thought everything was pointless, that she was a fraud. Now she knows differently.
To give the direction you need to know the way, to know the way you need to be on it at least once. Lilia has lived once to learn and live a second "loop" to tell. She is in a loop, she is dead but she is alive.
like she's in a paradox....maybe she can change the outcome somehow now that she finally came back into her power.
@@MichaelTibbs-l5e maybe the road for divination witches is a way to escape the "curse" they have, a hail Mary, for witches who want to change the fate of their lifes. If that is the case sometime they might need to die in the road to "set things right". That or the road kills the witches because as we see with our beloved Yellow Witch, the time jumps become too frequent and can lead to a state of "delirium", and for their power to be complete they need to control it to the full extent. If i made it too complicated i'm sorry, not a native english speaker.
5:16 I feel like the Maleficent outfit is kinda perfect for him since her 2nd movie was about her hidden potential where she transforms into something else. Kinda like how Billy will become the Demiurge.
This episode was AMAZING!!
this is up there of marvel peak!!!!
easily the best ep of the season so far
"She's gonna survive. She's safe."
That's what I've been telling myself for the past 30 hours. Welcome to the club. xD
…no she’s dead. She read Billy’s future and saw what he would become- that she won’t be there for. She said she didn’t read the future. She reads people and their reputations. So, when William stepped into tent, she was simply reading him.
Also I remember seeing an interview with Patti and someone asked her if she’d come back for a season 2, and she almost let it slip that “that would be impossible.”
She was the truck driver, she crashed into him, nah lmao yeah you're probably right, damn I want more of her :(
@@JustGavinBennett me too. I’d love for her to come back. But I standby the fact, that at the very least, Patti Lupone thinks she’s dead.
In episode 5, she said, "I read people. I read time." So she can/does read the future.
The best episode 🥺❤
good observation on Lilia giving Agatha that heads up. I feel like young Lilia was seeing her entire future and maybe changes the outcome some way. Maybe the reason we don't hear her hit the swords is because we first see her falling in a dark void in the beginning.....maybe the trial of the tower disappears as she's falling and some how her consciousness goes back to her younger self and she finally realizes what she needs to do. It a reach of course.
That metro is the failed public transport system Sharon mentioned in episode 3
This show keep getting better and better
Congrats on 10K. Best episode yet! Each one has been better than the last but this one might be hard to beat.
The Tower reversed...just like Lilia said last episode. I'm speachless. What a great episode!
Tarot cards are interesting. Obviously they don't work, right? But they make you think in different ways, which is always good.
1st reacter for episode 7 , MAN i know im going to cry again rewatching episode
Absolutely incredible television
Handsome man 👌🏼
Srsly tho, he's is FINE
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Congrats on reaching 10k!! Hope you don't give up on TH-cam this time. You seem like you're really nice and sweet, so I don't think you'll have any problems building / expanding this community. :D
And OMG this episode was just excellent. Loved it, cried watching it, and at the end accepted her fate (just like Lilia did). Death comes for us all. T_T
PS: I think I've seen that blazer somewhere?? Or maybe it's just a common design. But it's reminding me of 90s and 00s shows/movies don't know why. xD
I just think you doesn’t need to finish the road but only your own trial. Sad but happy at the same time that she gets to set everything straight from the start ❤
I’ve been waiting on Lilia’s trial since she greeted Jen w “High Priestess” idk tarot like that, but I knew that was a card. But I get the feeling they got influence from The Arrival, one of my fav movies too.
That's right, if lilia know what happen to agatha after this then she must be there which mean she's alive
Maybe not. It could be her spirit there somehow. Like if Rio collected Lilia’s and Ali’s spirit and they appeared during an intense power blast stalemate to tip the favor in Agatha’s favor - think like how Harry Potter’s parent’s spirits helped him in the final battle. But i do hope she is alive.
No, she knew about what's going to happen to william the day he died and she wasn't with him in the car
@@daicebergj whatever it is she has to be there, atleast she saw it what happen there
@@avys_is_meWhile she has her own “timepool” to swim in, Lilia is also a seer. As was her mentor. Either of them may have gleaned the events about which she warned Agatha.
Lilia saw Teen getting possessed, transforming and needing time. Something she wasn’t present in. She can see the future to some extent.
I think Lilia didn't die. At least in the traditional way. I think she got back to her past and will relieve her life in the correct time flow.
Same but also she has to be in the room with Agatha next episode since she warned her of something she saw which she could only see if she was in the room with her later
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That's right, although her divination method might not rely on just her "time-slipping"/had to be there. Maybe she can just see future events through her magic independent from her time-slipping abilities.
“Why didn’t you just catch a sword in your mouth?” 💀💀💀😂😂😂
Favorite episode so far 😢😢😢
I hope if Lilia died she'd have a brief reunion with Alice. Also a reunion of Alice with her mom since they both died in the road.
9 min in & im already crying 😢
Indeed twitter did NOT like that.
Twitter can go sit on a Musky pole. They hated this show before it aired.
I actually didn’t like it too. But I believe he thinks
Like that cause he spent like 5 days with Wanda and 3 years with Kaplan family,
@@nataliabusko1432 so true!!
this epsiode was some Nolan level experience. Like Dunkirk or Tenet.
Literally every episode is better than the last. Idk how that’s possible lol
So fast sir appreciate your commitment❤❤
correct twitter didnt like that at all lol OH WELL
I dont think its intentional, but i love that Liliah has basically he same power as Robin from agents of shield
Yeah didn't want to reference it too much in case people hadn't seen it but yeah its the exact same thing lol
@@JustGavinBennett completely off topic, but I wanted to thank you for repeatedly mentioning Marvel Snap; convinced me to give it's try and now I'm addicted
Also patty kinda spoiled that she was permanently dead in an interview cause she said she was sad she won't get to work with them again.
Billy is not one of the witches of the coven. His role is Agatha's familiar. The final trial will be that of the green witch, meaning Rio. So it will be very imteresting to see what kind of trial awaits Death herself!
It's been confirmed by the showrunner that Billy is the true fifth member of the coven (he is the black heart on Lilia's list, not Rio), and Rio isn't actually a member of the coven (she's "a tourist," as Agatha said in ep 4).
She only killed 5 of the salem 7. I think there are 2 still alive!
I don't think Lilia died! She lives out of time, meaning she is eternal
she did die, she’s been seeing her death since she was a child
@@xitsCASS Yet they never showed her get impaled by the swords, instead we saw her younger self sit down to begin her lesson.
Lilia was impeccable 😔🖤
She wasn't there for William's death. She's a divination witch.
Only 5 of the Salem 7 hit the swords. Three of them could morphe into winged critters( cicada , owl, and crow) no way they all kicked the can/ bodied the sword
i noticed that too
Fun fact some of them show up in the final so your right those ones survive as shown in the trailers
i mean.. lilia saw william's accident and she wasn't there so i think she does have the power to see the future, read palms, tarot, etc.. and the living out of order is kinda of a consequence of that
💜💜💜
She said she can't see the future but can read the people including their future or something like that.
Reminds me of Robin Hinton from AoS
Omg you should definitely react to maleficent!
No please first it was Alice now Lilia 😭
🔥🔥🔥
7:53 You really didn't notice?
"Alice don't" "try to save Agatha"
She was warning Alice to not try to save Agatha 'cause she would die because of that, but she returned to the first trial before finishing the sentence
I defiently did notice but that was already put together before this episode aired, they were just showing it off for the people that missed it lol
Not sure about lilia having to live through her divinations. We haven't known her for long - I don't think she'll appear at the scene where agatha needs to "hit the deck".
Please tell me I'm not the only one that thought about Robin from aos during this episode
Aubrey Plaza: Costs 1 less for each card destroyed this game
She's like Robin from AoS😢
well #JoeLocke can bake so 😂
Billy is the black heart , they will set up the 3rd & final instalement of this 3 part series