Who Burned the Bronx? PBS Film “Decade of Fire” Investigates 1970s Fires That Displaced Thousands

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  • @angrysocialist1553
    @angrysocialist1553 5 ปีที่แล้ว +304

    It’s scary how this isn’t talked about as much.

    • @sam70000
      @sam70000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      MSM talk more about transgenderism and LGBT rights

    • @Tampa0123456789
      @Tampa0123456789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You're still wasting your time watching TV? 🤣. TV is almost dead. It's just that cable TV forces people to watch those stations.

    • @angrysocialist1553
      @angrysocialist1553 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What? I just watch stuff online

    • @CB-ps4eh
      @CB-ps4eh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      corruption. Still in these neighbourhoods landlord treat ppl bad to get them to leave with no services

    • @JohnJJ1221
      @JohnJJ1221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny that seems to be the headlines that arent being addressed today..the temperature hasnt changed much

  • @Surferdude101
    @Surferdude101 5 ปีที่แล้ว +158

    They know who did and why just look up the owner of the buildings name then follow the money.

    • @angelene990
      @angelene990 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You are so right

    • @hajileserpud9539
      @hajileserpud9539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep.... the names tell a story

    • @beamking
      @beamking 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      who did it?

    • @njosborne6152
      @njosborne6152 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Birds
      We are being poisoned and burned alive
      The crooks in Government owned by the landlords.
      Just like a certain
      Malignant narcissist Orange Cheato.
      Anyone can be displaced is correct
      No matter the education or work, they will steal it.
      We are now seeing the rendering of a declining society
      By RICH PEOPLE WHO TAXES that we pay for them WE PAY.
      THEY’VE POISONED OUR WATERS WITH INDUSTRIAL COMPOUNDS
      AND GASED OUR BEAUTIFUL PLANET. For fun and profit.
      💀THEY HAVE CAUSED VIOLENCE and death AGAINST THE PEOPLE.
      AND the putridificating stench is unbearable APPEARS THE CORRUPTION
      👉🏽 RUNS ALL THE WAY TO THE Roberts’ SUPREME COURT,
      WHICH HAS THEIR OWN PARTICULAR WAY OF REDLINING
      🔥☠️🔥🏡And it’s called Gerrymandering🏡🔥☠️🔥
      And it started with the
      “Displacement” and MURDER of MILLIONS OF ABORIGINAL
      WHOSE LANDS ARE BEING POISONED BY CANADIAN OIL.
      AND THE FUCKING KANNUCKS, OUR PALS
      JUST DUMPED THEIR CRAP ON AMERICAN SOIL.
      ‼️🔥‼️and re-elected the fucker that did it to us‼️🔥‼️
      IN OTHER TIMES THIS WOULD BE CALLED AN INVASION‼️🔥💀🔥
      But it’s not and America’s citizens and their cities rot away.
      Welcome to troglodyte purgatory
      No buying a stairway to Heaven
      AND
      Emoluments have replaced Indulgence
      The banks and insurance companies got their bailout,
      for Breaking the law
      AND are doing so again
      Genocide‼️ RIGHT THIS VERY MOMENT
      AND are blaming Aboriginals and “immigrants”
      that have be here for at least 20,000 years

    • @nuckels188
      @nuckels188 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where do i look up the names?

  • @CB-db1qx
    @CB-db1qx 5 ปีที่แล้ว +231

    American propaganda always told Americans it was the greatest country on Earth. But the Bronx and multiple other major US cities fell into devastating poverty, urban decay, ruin, and blight. Huge swathes of the country looked like a warzone for 40+ years. I always thought it was interesting seeing Americans pointing the finger at the impoverished Soviet Union when this was simultaneously going on in their own backyard.

    • @AgrippaMaxentius
      @AgrippaMaxentius 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      And even the propaganda geared towards the USSR is BS. Only under Stalin did you have massive famines and the mass executions you see so commonly represented in American propaganda. An overwhelming number of Russians want to return to the USSR.
      Roof over your head, food, free education and healthcare. Virtually zero organized crime.

    • @andrewhoyle1521
      @andrewhoyle1521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@AgrippaMaxentius that's not remotely true. Gulags and unbelieveable repression on free speech and work camps existed after STALIN

    • @AgrippaMaxentius
      @AgrippaMaxentius 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Andrew Hoyle I mentioned mass famines and mass executions. Not incarceration, but I’ll bite. If you’re referencing the gulag system post Stalin, many people had their sentences commuted or reduced after Stalin’s death, and the death penalty was outlawed.

    • @andrewhoyle1521
      @andrewhoyle1521 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AgrippaMaxentius well the death penalty is abolished instead u get worked to death in labor camps. And I dont think 0 organized crime, and having a roof over your head at the expense of free elections, freedom or speech are things to want.

    • @Euzebinio
      @Euzebinio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@andrewhoyle1521 Man, you are so misinformed. Gulags were introduced not long ago after communist revolution of 1917 in Russia creating Soviet Union. School up. BTW, another lefties after Lenin and Stalin followed the suit:Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot. They all shared this leftist dream- to create a new man, a new wonderful equal world. This murderous ideology cost lives of around 100 milions people in the 20th century. .

  • @DavisTheName444
    @DavisTheName444 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Rest in peace to my father from The Bronx NYC! My grandmother left The Bronx in the 1970's when it was on fire with my father and his sister for a better life. He passed from gun violence 91'

    • @capitanviveros
      @capitanviveros ปีที่แล้ว +5

      sorry for your loss brother. head up.

    • @DavisTheName444
      @DavisTheName444 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@capitanviveros Thank you. God bless!

    • @capitanviveros
      @capitanviveros ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@DavisTheName444 one love my g. onwards and upwards. one person at a time we shall prosper.

    • @DavisTheName444
      @DavisTheName444 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@capitanviveros Yes

    • @elenaarman-tang7811
      @elenaarman-tang7811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So sorry for your loss 😢 Thank God he made it out of the Bronx!

  • @HoodRelatedEnt
    @HoodRelatedEnt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    We were burned out of two apartment buildings before winding up in a public assistance hotel on 34th street. I've got stories.

  • @1wer819
    @1wer819 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Congratulations on your film about to be viewed by millions of people who do care and want to know!

  • @eeceec
    @eeceec ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm from the Bronx. I remember the early to mid 70s there were fires all over the Bronx. I lived in fear as a child. There was a train station that was on fire close to where I lived. It happened at night. It was so scary I fainted from fear. Even when we moved to another location in the Bronx there was always a fire. Now I live in Connecticut and the memories of the Bronx fires are long gone. This brought back memories.

    • @gennaro7486
      @gennaro7486 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jackson ave was the train station was burn

    • @elenaarman-tang7811
      @elenaarman-tang7811 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damn, your story breaks my heart 😔 No child should ever have to live like that. I'm happy to hear you're living in CT now. I hope your life is much better 😘

    • @eeceec
      @eeceec ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@gennaro7486 It was by Claremont Pkwy and 3rd Ave in the Bronx.

    • @Ramen_Lord101
      @Ramen_Lord101 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No bullshit I grew up on Jackson ave near 3rd ave and my uncles would tell me stories about how the way they used to get through those tough time back in 76 was to throw block parties and next thing you know someone started to spit bars on the mic and then fires would break out whomp whomp parties over. I swear this story alway made me question if America should just rename itself and start all over because too much has been done and It needs a refresher. @@gennaro7486

  • @genesisstanley8163
    @genesisstanley8163 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    1:51 is my home❤️
    And the guy sitting down at 1:55 is my uncle❤️

  • @ASUMMERXO-r4q
    @ASUMMERXO-r4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    i’m from kingsbridge in the bronx born and raised and very proud of where i came from!!! it fuels me more knowing we was born to lose!!

  • @ratsoserpico
    @ratsoserpico 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    i lived in the area in 1975-1986 a lot of the fires were done by arsonists employed by the local mob who in turn were being financed by realtors from brooklyn. the goal was to push out the lower income families and gentrify the neighborhood; once the realtors realized the people weren't going anywhere the fires stopped and the people took over and cleaned it up, to a degree, the politicians didn't care because they were paid off the unions didn't care because they didn't offer jobs to most folks from the s bronx, but i still have a special place in my heart for hunts point.

    • @shnast-tv2
      @shnast-tv2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      This is what I was thinking. Definitely stinks of social engineering and big money.

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exactly!!! paid arsonists!!

    • @MB-jt9gs
      @MB-jt9gs ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I thought it was the owners paying arsonists to burn them down for the insurance money because property values plummeted.

    • @mookie2637
      @mookie2637 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Take a wild guess as to who NYC's biggest realtor was in the 1970s....

    • @1525boy
      @1525boy 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't understand what you are saying, what do the Unions have to do with this? Why are you even mentioning them? How is that relevant?

  • @rubenrubinos982
    @rubenrubinos982 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I Remember This During My Youth! It Was Unbelievable To Amount Of Burned Out Buildings!

    • @nvme2ok
      @nvme2ok 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes the same here! I'm from Harlem and you will see a burnt down building and maybe a whole block with rubble. However, when I'd traveled on the train and seen the Bronx - I was shocked with mouth wide open! Bronx and New Wark, New Jersey! SMH!

    • @stevenarmstrong3799
      @stevenarmstrong3799 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is life like in the bronx now?

    • @katnxaa
      @katnxaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenarmstrong3799 crime is still bad but the bronx is much more better as it was back then

    • @azul8811
      @azul8811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevenarmstrong3799 Guys I know with the FDNY say there is currently a good share of fire duty in the Bronx. Nothing like was years ago, but it’s an active Borough. If you check murder statistics, and other crime statistics, you’ll notice that the Bronx leads in that category as well.
      I haven’t viewed the full video, but I wonder if they mention WHO boobie-trapped many of those buildings, who took out the scrap metal, and who was squatting in them. I wonder if they mention who pulled the countless false alarms, who threw projectiles at the responding firefighters and who vandalized the firefighters personal vehicles.

  • @MondoBeno
    @MondoBeno 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It was easy for a landlord to burn a building for the insurance. First, take the doors off the apartments that are vacant and sell them. Then remove the copper pipes and sell them. Make holes in the floor. Litter the basement (and other rooms) with rags soaked in turpentine. Leave packs of cigs and matches around. Now leave the front door lock broken, so hoodlums can get in. They'll find the cigs, throw matches around, set fire to the rags, and the fire will spread thanks to the holes in the floors and the lack of doors. The sprinklers won't work thanks to the missing pipes. The building will burn down, and the landlord collects the insurance.

    • @CB-ps4eh
      @CB-ps4eh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wow.

    • @crisisbliss2462
      @crisisbliss2462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Unknown to most people is that some landlords were able to buy a building that had already burned and then collect the insurance. Most of the landlords, I been told, were Hebrew.

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman ปีที่แล้ว

      @@crisisbliss2462 told by who?? blaming it all on the Jews again??!!

    • @crisisbliss2462
      @crisisbliss2462 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@4465Vman Blaming?!? Where did I blame. I was told this by a guy named Carlos. I found it amazing that someone could collect insurance on a property that burned down before they were the owner. Back in the 80's there were plenty of building that fit the burned out status and I would have loved to buy one myself. I wanted to know how this was done. I 'm going to ask an insurance agent is this or was this ever possible. Can you imagine buying a dilapidated building and then getting the money -free of charge- to fix it up.
      BTW - What I didn't included in my original comment was that Carlos said they bought the building, collected the insurance, pocketed the money and then abandon the property. He told me this back in the mid 1980's. How often did it happen, if it happened at all, I don't know - but given the history of apartment building ownership in NYC, if this actually was going on the person looking to buy an apartment building in those neighborhoods were more likely than not, to be hebrew. That's not a criticism of jews. if any thing it would be a criticism on the black and spanish people who lived in those neighborhoods for not owning the buildings.
      Now, if you want to talk about it, we can keep the conversation going. So, do I blame the ability to collect insurance money on burned out property that you didn't own when it burned on Jews, No. If its a loophole then it's the insurance companies loss and the buyers gain. If it incentives someone to burn down a building especially where there are people living in it, someone need to be blamed. - the people who paid someone to burn it down, the person who burned it down, and the insurance company(s) who participate in the scheme (there may have been some insurance agent getting a kickback from the insurance money).

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@crisisbliss2462 Thanks for your thoughts ...thankfully they rebuilt the Bronx ..it took along time and investors and good leaders of all ethnicities and backgrounds ! but big big problem now in the understaffed Rikers Island...They cleaned up NYC but there was a price ...like the situation at Rikers Island now.

  • @wendylady69
    @wendylady69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Greed & institutional bigotry burnt down the Bronx.

    • @gmanon1181
      @gmanon1181 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      People with names and last names did it, and packed the money.

    • @vn6870
      @vn6870 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      they dont mention the traps locals made for the fire fighters such as cutting holes in the floor and cover with cardboard or filling balloons with gasoline huh? wonder why fireman stop coming?

    • @Bleek17Six
      @Bleek17Six 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vn6870
      Sources ?

    • @AndrewVOdom
      @AndrewVOdom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Bleek17Six It’s featured in testimony in the BBC’s 1972 documentary “Man Alive: The bronx is burning.” Let’s face it, there was a lot of dysfunction in these neighborhoods.

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman ปีที่แล้ว

      and corruption!!!

  • @shosugino6716
    @shosugino6716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I was raised in the East Bronx in the 70s... 80% of The Bronx did not burn down... 80% of Section 8 slumlords not making enough were responsible. Nice piece, will watch doc TY

    • @thanoswasright999
      @thanoswasright999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      So you're a guy in his late 40s who pretends to be a lame comic book character and is a Nazi POS?
      Wow, just when I think you can't get more pathetic....

    • @thanoswasright999
      @thanoswasright999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Honest question: if you're in your late 40s, why do you act like you're a 15 year old loser living in his parents basement?

    • @shosugino6716
      @shosugino6716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thanoswasright999 Uh huh.

    • @thanoswasright999
      @thanoswasright999 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@shosugino6716 I love how you said you would ignore me but are so insecure you can't. ;)

    • @shaggy4583
      @shaggy4583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@thanoswasright999 Bot go and cry

  • @SittingWithDogs
    @SittingWithDogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The city is setting itself up for the same exact situation right now & they don’t see it coming. History doesn’t always repeat itself but often rhymes!

    • @dougfredricks2017
      @dougfredricks2017 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anarchy comes to mind...

    • @kevsta67
      @kevsta67 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ot's not the city. it's democrat politicians and the new yorkers that keep voting the same democrats into office year after year .

  • @rubygreta1
    @rubygreta1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Rent Control. Rents were so low that buildings became worthless, so they were torched or abandoned.

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman ปีที่แล้ว +4

      it wasnt "rent control" it was 250 k heroin addicts , massive unemployment in the cities so people just couldnt pay their rent, their utilities etc etc

  • @krazyfan2000
    @krazyfan2000 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Growing up in NY we all knew who was behind these criminal acts and it wasn't the citizens that lived there.

  • @averyfisher9967
    @averyfisher9967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Awesome documentary! We need to keep this in the limelight so no one ever forgets this mess.

    • @dougfredricks2017
      @dougfredricks2017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We live during interesting times... The word anarchy comes to mind

    • @MC32595
      @MC32595 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it’s interesting this is rarely discussed, or at least not on a massive scale. part of me thinks it’s because it’s a tactic some landlords still use today 🤔

    • @pa.encema2821
      @pa.encema2821 ปีที่แล้ว

      Landlords and city officials trying to keep all this, under the rug

  • @gorillaguerillaDK
    @gorillaguerillaDK 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Bronx, even the name was like a magic spell to me when I grew up as a kid in Scandinavia back in the 70's and early 80's

    • @robertmanfredthurrigl9424
      @robertmanfredthurrigl9424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      'Magic Spell' ? Could you elaborate a bit more on what you mean by that please. I would describe it more like a BAD SPELL or the american dream gone AWOL. A source of fasination for us Europeans perhaps for its so alien to us hence our interest but there is and was no magic spell in my humble opinion. Just degradation , neglect , decay and extreme poverty and hopelesnes.

  • @JBanks333
    @JBanks333 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    It's still happening on a smaller scale but/several stores at a time.

  • @wileecoyote5749
    @wileecoyote5749 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Bronx never stopped burning

  • @jediknight38
    @jediknight38 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    It had been rumored that the landlords themselves who owned the buildings in the South Bronx set fire to the buildings themselves. So that they can collect on the insurance before bolting out of town.

    • @avpthegreat
      @avpthegreat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yup, that’s what people are saying. I think they were losing money, that’s why. Owning real estate is a good way of making money if your renters actually pay up.

    • @jediknight38
      @jediknight38 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@avpthegreat But what I dont get is why for almost 20 years it was left that way. Why so many blocks and so many neighborhoods were left in ruins for so long without anyone else offering to build anything else in thier place.

    • @JuanMartinez-ek7cy
      @JuanMartinez-ek7cy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jediknight38 because it became a war zone of gangs, nobody wanted to live there due to the lack of working placements

    • @r.pres.4121
      @r.pres.4121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Because of the rampant crime and gang violence along with the huge amount of money needed to clean up the filth and garbage.

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this is true for sure

  • @mentoring42
    @mentoring42 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Same thing happened in parts of Brooklyn.

    • @scooterahlers9666
      @scooterahlers9666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      True - but most of the ghetto parts of Brooklyn have gentrified BIG time. Just look at Bushwick, Williamsburg, and Sunset Park. The only areas of Brooklyn that are still ghetto are Brownsville, East Flatbush and East New York (other than Cypress Hills)..

    • @nithe80schild
      @nithe80schild ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@scooterahlers9666the gentrification is slowly happening in those areas.

    • @space_4736
      @space_4736 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ⁠@@scooterahlers9666bushwick was only ghetto for a decade. The 90s, after the Puerto Rican and blacks moved in while the Italians left.

  • @LeethLee1
    @LeethLee1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Evil what the elites can do. Terrible.

  • @pauletterobinson1299
    @pauletterobinson1299 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use to live in the Bronx as a baby. I moved from NYC in 1972. I always wondered why are all these buildings burned out?? Since watching this video I now know why.

  • @erichhitchcock3368
    @erichhitchcock3368 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Anyone interested should read, "Report From Engine Company 82." It was probably the first book to tell it like it was back then." Also, the subsequent documentary, "Man Alive, Bronx Is Burning." is a must watch.

    • @ivok9846
      @ivok9846 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      who, blacks or whites?

    • @ElizabethGonzalez-jt7ns
      @ElizabethGonzalez-jt7ns 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did the democrat burn it??

    • @azul8811
      @azul8811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed on both counts. I wonder if the documentary featured here interviews firefighters and ranking officers who worked in the Bronx during the 1970s?

  • @raanangeberer1903
    @raanangeberer1903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    All I know is that when these were working-class Italian, Jewish and Irish neighborhoods, they were perhaps rundown and aging, but were safe neighborhoods with vibrant commercial stores.

    • @maryrutkowski7195
      @maryrutkowski7195 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And the fact that those neighborhoods... then... were considered white (despite being ethnically Jewish, Italian, Irish) and in the 1970s the neighborhood had become Black and Hispanic majority doesn't show you the difference? This is NOT rocket science. This was racism, bigotry, greed at work!! Your comment shows the denial of racism in NYC.

    • @zico739
      @zico739 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because those people got far more opportunities and investment from the local, state, and federal government as well as the private sector.

    • @steminist__6876
      @steminist__6876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      did you skip the part about redlining?

    • @sigerian1085
      @sigerian1085 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The property owners burned down the buildings for insurance.

    • @sheilamedenwald420
      @sheilamedenwald420 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That should tell you what high violent crimes do to neighborhoods, businesses move to safer neighborhoods so they don't continuously get robbed or their employees assaulted/robbed/killed, then people that lived there move to safer neighborhoods, no business in their right mind would stay or build in high violent crime area's, when they move they take their taxes with them so less funds goes into those communities. Get rid of all the violent crimes and businesses would be happy to be apart of the community. This happens in every major city across America, and they ALL have one thing in common. 😏

  • @robertafierro5592
    @robertafierro5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The LANDLORDS set their own buildings on fire during this Era. I almost died in a fire in 1978. The day before the fire I saw him running to and fro salvaging boxes and boxes of financial records..he was laughing!! I was 18 and had very little life experience.

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman ปีที่แล้ว +2

      correct

  • @cd.cd.cd.cd-cd
    @cd.cd.cd.cd-cd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Ahh brings back memories, I grew up in the South Bronx shoutout to Southern Boulevard/Longwood, went to school a block from Kelly St it really was like a third world country back then. Will definitely check this out

    • @robertmanfredthurrigl9424
      @robertmanfredthurrigl9424 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im sure if one was to walk through that part of the Bronx during after hours as a white man and perhaps well dressed one would have been jumped on and relieved of ones wallet watch and the shoes and coat even the umbrella if one had one .

    • @JuanMartinez-ek7cy
      @JuanMartinez-ek7cy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you help me with this information from your personal point? Where there living more gang members than normal citizens in the Bronx in 70's?

    • @cd.cd.cd.cd-cd
      @cd.cd.cd.cd-cd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JuanMartinez-ek7cy I dont understand your question, you're asking whether there more gang members than citizens? There were alot of gangs back then yes but not sure if they outnumbered citizens, but it was bad

    • @JuanMartinez-ek7cy
      @JuanMartinez-ek7cy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cd.cd.cd.cd-cd yes, sorry for my English, were there*. Thanks

    • @PalBatey
      @PalBatey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, great memories. I moved to Fox and Longwood from Westchester and Kelly in 1976. Went to IS 116 and Monroe HS. Fun times...wish I was back even with all the burnt buildings.

  • @AudioPervert1
    @AudioPervert1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    this has happened in New Delhi so many times .. however, the media and hip-hop never came.

    • @cindyqueen7228
      @cindyqueen7228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      clearly indians are not creative enough to come up with hip hop.

    • @AudioPervert1
      @AudioPervert1 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cindyqueen7228 shows how ignorant you are .. when we see hiphop allover india today in various languages - however not invented within the country - as for bieng creative, hiphop was another outcome of mass culture. Very cool then and done with now ... just as the society which produced It is...

    • @cindyqueen7228
      @cindyqueen7228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@AudioPervert1 hip hop came from the genius of black and brown ppl in the South Bronx in this time period idiot. Indians clearly lack that creativity.😎

    • @colonelangus8247
      @colonelangus8247 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      cindy, black and brown people culturally appropriated him hop from Debra Harry aka Blondie.

    • @cindyqueen7228
      @cindyqueen7228 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@colonelangus8247 Wha? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO😂😂😂 Thanks for the laugh, colonel

  • @jenpsakiscousin4589
    @jenpsakiscousin4589 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When you got firefighters who suddenly have to go on food stamps, who does that motivate them to risk their life to fight a fire.

    • @azul8811
      @azul8811 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Give me the name of even ONE active duty NYC firefighter during the 1970s that had to go on food stamps. Just one name AND the unit he was assigned to.
      Remember, we’re not talking about the 1,600 guys that got laid off on July 1, 1975 due to the City’s fiscal crisis, we are talking about active duty firefighters being on food stamps. Fair enough? I look forward to your reply.

  • @vicosee4439
    @vicosee4439 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This happened in Detroit

  • @PalBatey
    @PalBatey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I used to live in a building which was one of 3 not burnt back in the mid 70s. Kelly St. and Westchester Ave. I did enjoy playing inside the burnt building though.

    • @fred5nyc
      @fred5nyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Use to love playing in those abandoned buildings, never knew what you would fine.

    • @JuanMartinez-ek7cy
      @JuanMartinez-ek7cy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro can you help we with this information? Where there more gang members o normal citizens living in the Bronx around the 70's?

    • @PalBatey
      @PalBatey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JuanMartinez-ek7cy there are probably more gang members today than back in the day. It's not like it was painted in the movie The Warriors.

    • @JuanMartinez-ek7cy
      @JuanMartinez-ek7cy 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PalBatey thks, I thought it was

    • @PalBatey
      @PalBatey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JuanMartinez-ek7cy Not at all. I arrived in the South Bronx from the Dominican Republic in 1966 and started Elementary school in the early 70s. Each neighborhood had its gangs but they protected the areas. As a matter of fact, they used a lot of the abandoned tenements as "Club Houses" but never bothered anyone that lived around them. As I remember it it was lots of fun...block parties, music, the fire hydrant at full blast, etc.
      Now, the 80s were scary. A totally different world.

  • @r.pres.4121
    @r.pres.4121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Back in the 70s, NYC along with other older northern US cities was in free fall despite hundreds of millions of dollars in major new investment and redevelopment. The financial health of these older cities deteriorated along with their housing stock, infrastructure, and quality of public services. The burning of the South Bronx along with other poor urban neighborhoods was caused by the serious decline and financial problems faced by the older northern cities.

    • @sm3675
      @sm3675 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And today there is a resurgence

  • @jonathangrant3620
    @jonathangrant3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    A property owner had two buildings, exactly the same. One was in Manhattan, and the other was in the Bronx. The one in Manhattan virtually never had a flooded bathtub, a broken window, broken locks, or trash in the hallway. Crime was minimal and the costs were minimal.
    The building in the Bronx had countless floods, broken windows, broken elevators, urine and feces in the hallways, needles, etc. Fires started by tenants caused the owner to walk away from the building.

    • @CarlosHernandez-zg8tz
      @CarlosHernandez-zg8tz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The fires were started by the owners so they can collect the insurance money and bail out.

    • @amazing50000
      @amazing50000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Ok, a owner walked away from a Bronx building he owned. What do that have to do with Red Lining a whole block? And what do that have to do with owners building down the buildings to most likely collect insurance? Just sell the building, even if you do not get a lot of money from it.

    • @ShaneM420
      @ShaneM420 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're talking shit.
      It's well documented the caucazoid landlords and I-tell-a-lie-ian mob villains started those fires to line their pockets.
      YOU ARE A LIAR.
      But history refutes your propaganda.

  • @jonathangrant3620
    @jonathangrant3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Part of the problem is that NYC had 1.5 million manufacturing jobs. We shipped those and millions of other jobs overseas, and people who otherwise would have had steady employment are instead on welfare, with plenty of time on their hands.

  • @great567
    @great567 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think Brooklyn was the fastest gentrifiying neighborhood in the past two decades.

  • @josem.lopezjr.2605
    @josem.lopezjr.2605 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was born south Bronx and proud

  • @mahamedjama8156
    @mahamedjama8156 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fun Fact!!! The medium 1 family house in the BX now is half a million dollars. Kudos to the resilience of those who stayed and rebuilt their community. They understood that when there’s blood in the streets by property. The average 1 bed rents for 1900 dollars now. The Bronx is where Harlem and Brooklyn was in the early 2000s. Manhattan and Bk rents are averaging over 3k or more than the Bronx. The South Bronx by Bruckner blvd and Grd concourse are already fetching the same rents as Harlem or Manhattan.

  • @luddity
    @luddity 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The red line meant Area Scheduled for Demolition.

    • @inkyguy
      @inkyguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      "Red Lining" was a term that referred to banks specifying geographic areas that they would refuse to provide mortgages to or to finance renovations and improvements. They were typically minority neighborhoods. This doomed them to neglect and decay.

  • @QuadirBrown-lf9rg
    @QuadirBrown-lf9rg ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When that lady says "we grew up in rubble", wow that landed hard.

  • @mdon3928
    @mdon3928 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I was born and raised in the streets of Brooklyn but I spent a good portion of the 80's hanging with my peeps in the "Boogie Down Bronx". Taking the 2&5 train through the South Bronx was like taking a time machine to Berlin 1945 after the Allies and Russia declared victory over the Germans. Completely obliverated. Though Brooklyn also had completely decimated area's, the South Bronx was way worst because it covered many more square miles.. I can precisely nail the perimeters of destruction out of my head, from Jerome Ave just above Yankee Stadium on the 4 train and north to 170st crossing over to south of East Tremont on the 2&5 train to Whitlock and Westchester Ave on the 6 train and then back down to the lower south part of the Bronx at Bruckner Expwy at around the 3rd Ave bridge.

    • @frankjames6232
      @frankjames6232 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here most of Brooklyn was burning but not at the rate of the South Bronx. I used to go to The Bronx River Projects community center for the block parties back in 80-81 that's what made me become a DJ then I kinda faded into my projects in Brownsville when I saw DJs around my hood which halted me from going to the Bronx

  • @conantdog
    @conantdog 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Welcome to the United States of hypocrisy.

  • @damianmcdonagh7908
    @damianmcdonagh7908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It used to be a predominantly Irish, Italian and Jewish area. Crime rocketed and the white population fled.

    • @azul8811
      @azul8811 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Whites fled because of the crime.

  • @gmanon1181
    @gmanon1181 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Great documentary.

  • @andrewjones2133
    @andrewjones2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just saw that documentary a few days ago. Great accounts to what the Bronxites had to deal with back in the day.

  • @milliebronxny3718
    @milliebronxny3718 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I grew up in the south Bronx. I still live in the South Bronx. I grew up on Intervale and live on Simpson St. How can I see the docuntary

    • @Pinckman1360
      @Pinckman1360 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I grew up on 138th Brooke Ave. Went to Burger Jr High.

    • @CB-ps4eh
      @CB-ps4eh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      live close. I have a slamlord too. ill watch the documentary

    • @andrewjones2133
      @andrewjones2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m 2 years late but the documentary is on TH-cam

  • @robertafierro5592
    @robertafierro5592 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'll tell you who burnt the Bronx down! The Landlords. I almost got killed in an apt fire that my Landlord had paid a junkie 50 bux to set. 1977-78. 7th street between Ave C and D. The rumbles of Gentrification was beginn8ng. Before that the only rumble were heard early every morning were BONGOs. That era is long gone, and all.thats left are some bands, photos, music and lots of GOOD STORIES..

  • @ragingnica
    @ragingnica 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Gentrification in the Mission District here in San Francisco

    • @lemostjoyousrenegade
      @lemostjoyousrenegade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alert 🚨 EXCEPT…16th Street and A WHOLE LOT of the Mission is still SACRY AF. …since the early 1980s.

  • @astoriadawa5168
    @astoriadawa5168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Redlining. Defunding cuts of all services. Insurance scams. Drug influx. Gentrification. Ok

  • @flickzbynick
    @flickzbynick ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The bronx looked like Hiroshima

  • @leiutley4083
    @leiutley4083 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Flash Furious Five The Message was filmed in South Bronx that record relevant then and now

  • @DavidMiller-kf1ss
    @DavidMiller-kf1ss หลายเดือนก่อน

    Visited nyc from oklahoma in 80s.loved it! Knew some history.. god bless. Better now?😢vote!

  • @kenrose9065
    @kenrose9065 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What monetary "group" owns the Bronx? What "group" owns all of the property called Manhattan Island (New York city)? We all know "who". Follow the money. Who still owns the property called Manhattan, and who is paying for the renovations to the Bronx?

    • @brianjacobsen5762
      @brianjacobsen5762 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who made $ off this shit.

    • @randyjohnson9772
      @randyjohnson9772 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ZIOMAFIA SATANISTS TERRORIST

    • @inkyguy
      @inkyguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ken Rose, in fact, Cambridge University owns more real estate in Manhattan than any other single entity. A huge portion of the university's endowment consists of New York City real estate.

  • @trinayoung5081
    @trinayoung5081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The landlords were burning tge buildings to get low income tennets out so tge could collect on insurance

  • @GreenOrchid9
    @GreenOrchid9 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Omg there is an explanation for everything 👹😈☹😠

  • @barbarajanvrin6757
    @barbarajanvrin6757 ปีที่แล้ว

    Eastchester Bronx Girl ,in the House...I Love New York ✊🏿❤️

  • @ewalker1057
    @ewalker1057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It was told that was the only way renters could get out of a lease.

  • @Candyman-s8z
    @Candyman-s8z 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The building owners were burning their buildings for the insurance money because the value was down of the gentrification

  • @jimmylivrieri7525
    @jimmylivrieri7525 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The tenant burnt their own apartments, to get on the front of the line for new housing

  • @IceManLikeGervin
    @IceManLikeGervin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Insurance scams by building owners...follow the money

  • @tonygohagan2766
    @tonygohagan2766 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    " I said, No: wait a minute; I have to make my move right now"

  • @SidewaysBurnouts
    @SidewaysBurnouts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    look at the developers who moved in on the vacant properties, thats who burned it. they wanted to whiten up the bronx, they did the same to the rest of nyc more successfully.

  • @solaireofastora8609
    @solaireofastora8609 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What the media wont tell you is the fact that the government placed a price ceiling, which greatly reduced the value of said apartments, which then forced landlords to destroy their property to collect insurance costs.

  • @hereisayana8207
    @hereisayana8207 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How to watch this now ?

  • @scasey1960
    @scasey1960 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Redlined cities.

  • @lemarmeezyhayes553
    @lemarmeezyhayes553 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did they even know what grass was back then?

  • @ferminmarrero7781
    @ferminmarrero7781 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My friend was one of the men. He got paid 18hundred dollars a building, But toward the end of his life he had regrets it.

  • @edgarsoto9775
    @edgarsoto9775 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Bronx .. Brooklyn was up in flames too .. Drug use was at a all time high .. half of the east cost was dependent on drugs .. trash and rats everywhere .. poverty at its best .. living in the east in the 70’s was like living in a 3rd world country

    • @edgarsoto9775
      @edgarsoto9775 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lets us not forget the new york black out and the son of sam killing people in all 5 boroughs

    • @owenrice1756
      @owenrice1756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting how crack wasn't a problem in these communities until after Reagan visited, after the fires. It's already well known that the gov shipped drugs into miniority communities. You think poor people were enterprising across borders to get coca leaves?

    • @andrewjones2133
      @andrewjones2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah man. The entire city of New York was a mess.

  • @jeannedrumm1765
    @jeannedrumm1765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I lived in the Bronx growing up. It
    Was the best place to grow up. I left when I married in 1966. I was changing then and some of the people moving in didn’t care about where they lived or what the did to get money. That’s what changed the Bronx

  • @Machster10
    @Machster10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Already been done. "The Fire Next Door."

  • @truth.speaker
    @truth.speaker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:45
    So who started the fires?

    • @andrewjones2133
      @andrewjones2133 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mostly the gangs that were being paid by the greedy Landlords for the insurance money. It was just the Bronx. It was happening all over the city. Not to mention Harlem and Washington Heights. My childhood neighborhood.

  • @rubygreta1
    @rubygreta1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Banks? NOBODY would loan on a property that had negative cash flow, which was caused by rent control.

  • @HelloooThere
    @HelloooThere ปีที่แล้ว

    So the people living there had nothing to do with dumping garbage out the windows?

  •  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I lived near those burned out buildings in the 60s and 70s. They would never tear the burned out buildings down. You smelled smoke every day. Most were burned by landlords for the insurance.

  • @JohnPandolfo121
    @JohnPandolfo121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grew up through it and as awful as it was.....damm i had a great time.

  • @thegrandhouseofamen7
    @thegrandhouseofamen7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't take this as anti semitism, but it was called Jewish lightening. They were burned to collect on insurance claims. Italian mafia also did it when you didn't pay on a loan. It happened to my aunt.

  • @MAHAN1755
    @MAHAN1755 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The clip is confusing. They say because of redlining they couldn't get fire insurance but the landlords were burning the buildings down for the insurance payouts???

    • @deloresturner9404
      @deloresturner9404 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      For the properties that were left standing after a significant amount of the stock was destroyed.

  • @sazenycbx
    @sazenycbx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It was known as Jewish Smoke!

    • @nFWAYGo
      @nFWAYGo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jewish lighting

  • @robertafierro5592
    @robertafierro5592 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Same thing happened to Lousaida!!

  • @midnightrun1256
    @midnightrun1256 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wheres the full video

  • @marisolvalez4719
    @marisolvalez4719 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My dad died in the bronx in a fire when he was 23 yrs old in a club I was only 7 years old ....

    • @bxtoyotero
      @bxtoyotero ปีที่แล้ว

      The Happy land fire?

  • @sanitar-otti320
    @sanitar-otti320 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How many arsonists were sent to prison? And how many landlords? The prisons must have been full of them.

    • @MemoGrafix
      @MemoGrafix ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Most Arson is very hard to prove, most jackasses involved with burning of The Bronx & Harlem did not go to prison.

    • @sanitar-otti320
      @sanitar-otti320 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MemoGrafix That's hard to believe for me. The citizens knew that arsonists burned their homes down. They must have been aware of it. Must have founded self defence forces. And private "inspectors" who check everyone who goes in and out.

    • @sanitar-otti320
      @sanitar-otti320 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MemoGrafix But I like your profile picture, very beautiful. Like a butterfly 🦋

  • @Flatleava
    @Flatleava 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My boss was preventing fires

  • @lunathewatcher
    @lunathewatcher 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I heard that they did this to destroy old buildings that would leave traces of the old Tartarian world

    • @QuartzDiamond86
      @QuartzDiamond86 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know about that. I think those people died from a outer space threat.

  • @Rickesuave
    @Rickesuave ปีที่แล้ว

    No you were right when you said "decades of fire" the world still burning..

  • @orlandolugo5361
    @orlandolugo5361 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ❤🤯that was mind blowing 🤯 and 100% true 👍

  • @bernardweitzman6396
    @bernardweitzman6396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I lived in the Bronx during the decade and I can tell you that this has impacted the entire Bronx
    The fairy tale that landlords were hiring goon squads, like come every day to light fires is absolutely wrong, if that point many of them had no insurance on the buildings that are extended to gain nothing the neighbourhoods in the South Bronx declined quite simply because of the crime

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman ปีที่แล้ว

      yeah but guess what alot of them DID have insurance on the buildings!!! and they could make more money collecting that then trying to rent to a few tenants hanging on in some dying poverty stricken neighborhoods !!

  • @jason-hy8ci
    @jason-hy8ci ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder why all the people left in the First Place. 🤔

  • @bernardweitzman6396
    @bernardweitzman6396 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This commentator brings up Herman Badillo name in a bad way… That shows you what type of commentary this is Herman Badillo was a great man

  • @gizzinhereye
    @gizzinhereye 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No people burn buildings for fun, and redlining was made illegal in the 60s it would have also made all those people to leave.

    • @lemostjoyousrenegade
      @lemostjoyousrenegade 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🎯❗️💯

    • @bruhbutwhytho
      @bruhbutwhytho 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Redlining has lasting affects and there is no reason that there would be a concentration of arsonists in the Bronx.

  • @phantomfire8228
    @phantomfire8228 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:30

  • @CyberOrganic
    @CyberOrganic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Were the landlord Jewish, white, italian, etc? Why don't they interview the landlords

    • @s.harris8710
      @s.harris8710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It’s been 40+ years since the fires, so I suppose most of the landlords might be dead or frail elderly.

    • @CyberOrganic
      @CyberOrganic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@s.harris8710 I am asking because they could of been racist landlords that did not care about Hispanics or blacks to do such a thing. All the people that use to live there before Hispanics and blacks moved to the neighborhood it was mostly of European descent. The landlords took insurance money and left. They never rebuilt. If they did it was elsewhere.

    • @avpthegreat
      @avpthegreat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@CyberOrganic Because they were losing money, obviously. You think people burn down their own property if they’re making good money from it?

    • @jonathangrant3620
      @jonathangrant3620 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There were a lot of black landlords, but nobody would ever criticize them. In fact, the tenants were usually to blame for the fires.

    • @amazing50000
      @amazing50000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jonathangrant3620 Man stop it. So all of those fires was started by the tenants? Who just happed to be black & brown people in those communities? So you are basically saying that black and brown are uncivilized people without even saying it, right? Stop it.

  • @user-tr5tr3xf2d
    @user-tr5tr3xf2d 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The fire started as the Irish was moving out

  • @MrElliotc02
    @MrElliotc02 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not sure I understand. The fires were created by the owners of the buildings for insurance? And the insurance companies just paid out the policies despite it being arson? And all of the dozens of law enforcement agencies, federal, state, and city and county went along? And despite the billions lost, the billions that were spent to rebuild what was burned, the loss of life, etc., there has never been a Congressional investigation into this matter? Why? Don't be vague. Who exactly is responsible?

    • @owenrice1756
      @owenrice1756 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk if you've noticed but the mostly white government in American history hasn't cared about miniorities very often. I'm not even talking about non-white miniorities. The areas only 'white' people were irish and italians who were also discriminated against at the time.

    • @MrElliotc02
      @MrElliotc02 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@owenrice1756 This isn't about minorities in any sense. It's about billions and billions of dollars.It's an allegation that a massive fraud was never properly investigated. Every building that burned was at one time or another insured...have you ever dealt with an insurance adjuster? They are not a giving bunch. This documentary did not give any information as to the details of the conspiracy which left an area of hundreds of thousands devastated.

    • @4465Vman
      @4465Vman ปีที่แล้ว

      there was thick thick corruption in NYC at the time ..insurance companies wouldnt pay out the whole sum and they probably fought in court for along time, but it was cheaper to collect on a minor insurance payout then to keep trying to collect rent form a population that was getting poorer and poorer ...you cant PROVE that it was the landlord that paid the arsonist, right!!??

  • @edwinjimenez3802
    @edwinjimenez3802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    BLAMING OTHERS

    • @amazing50000
      @amazing50000 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man be quiet, you just do not want to hear the truth. So It was my ancestors fault for being slaves too, right?

  • @michaelrojas8109
    @michaelrojas8109 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The landlords did it and got away with no consequences. No government official actually care for the human beings and their families. The people their that dealt with the tragedy still dealing with the shock ptsd. It’s 2024 and I have yet to find out any landlords being arrested. Some probably still are landlords in the Bronx hiding in plain sight trying to forget what was done.

  • @alfredeviggiani1541
    @alfredeviggiani1541 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Landlords burned down these empty buildings for insurance.!!

  • @arnoldlayne9918
    @arnoldlayne9918 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Grenfel effect?

  • @djxcel23
    @djxcel23 ปีที่แล้ว

    The landlords set the fires for money. Now for what is going on now a days with all the crime and garbage all over certain neighborhoods that is another conversation.