100% agree. The longer you work for a dealership you’ll come to realize and have a new perspective. At the end of the day you’re just a number to the dealer. You can be one of the most knowledgable/productive tech in the shop, drop dead tonight and you’ll be replaced by next week. Warranty/customer pay times are getting worse, technology is always advancing and your constantly learning more for no raise. Then you got entry level techs bitching about making no money and they get raises when they are nowhere as good as you. Doesn’t sit right with me.
Almost two years into flat rate dealership and here’s my POV. Pros: - Mess around with coworkers and talk shit - Discount on parts - Access to procedures and special equipment - Food catering (depends on dealer) - Bring your own car to work on - Team leaders and special diagnostic techs are really helpful for desperate times - Chill ass shop foreman Cons: - Benefits are trash, don’t recommend if you have a child - Every man for themselves - Bias within advisors - Unfairness of work - we have a team of techs that do sales cars and new cars therefore it’s gravy work. - Lots of speed bumps once you turn flat rate. It’s a real learning experience.
"Bias within advisors" What exactly do you mean by that? Like what are some examples? And basically do all the techs want to be working in the "new car section"?
@@GORILLA_PIMP I think with bias he means advisors often will have a mental order of which techs they would want to work on the vehicle. Also everyone wants new vehicle fix’s because it often something super easy to fix plus decent hours
That’s what I’m thinking . I don’t want to worry about making hours to support a household . I know there’s opportunities out there that pay more with a consistent pay . Example hd mechanic or something like that .
Been a BMW tech my entire career from being at texas to now Nevada. Love the dealership I’m at now but I just got a job offer from a Rolls Royce dealership. At the end of the day don’t be afraid to make moves for a better opportunity.
I started working at cars through the local jiffy lubes around my area, got to learn a lot on there but recently moved to working at dealership. So far I'm loving the change and learning how things work at the dealership I'm at. It did make me wonder what working at the independent shop would be like, is the pay better now that u made the switch?
Ive been following you Nick since I was in college studying automotive. during college and after college i was at my ford dealer and I realized that this flat rate work style was not for me and bounced when covid happened. I got my unemployment and then months later, I started working at an independent shop and I love the environment. I worked as an hourly tech and learned alot more. My checks are smaller but Im more happier. I am working on getting L1 and get my smog license and hopefully open my own shop.
Recently I tore my ACL and I havent been able to work for 6 months now . I've had time to sit and think about this career. I've tried and make my own pros and cons list. Evrytime I make a list. Its mainly cons. For the little money you make its not worth the body aches. Of course you can make good money in this career, but that takes time. Time is money and your body is on a timer. Idk im young and rhats just my opinion so far
Today was my last day at the dealer after working 15 years in the dealership world. did 8 at Ford, 2 at GM, 4 at nissan, and then FCA. Left for a service writer position in a Heavy duty shop. Good luck with your new adventure! Cheers
@@LetsDriftMedia Dealer politics in general. The dealership hierarchy and "Performance" based pay structures for service writers, service managers, etc. are a breeding ground for greed. Technicians are underpaid across the board. Shop labour rates have skyrocketed, however tech's wages have been stagnant. When mcdonalds across the street are hiring fry cooks for 21$ an hour.. Says something.
Ive been working a toyota dealership for just over 3 months now. Did my first oil change in the shop on day one. It took me several weeks of only hitting 15-25hrs/week to finally get into the groove and start hitting 40s regularly. The better jobs definitly have an easier opportunity to make up the difference on time. But in the beginning if you take it slow and make sure theres no mistakes/come backs they will keep you while you grow. Just remember its very corporate. Kill people with kidness and dont be afraid to reject a job that you think will hurt you long term.(passing a state when it shouldnt, a car with a massive oil leak or double/triple gaskets, etc) you are an independent who works at a dealership not a typical salary employee
Don't be afraid to reject a job that's dispatched to you? Refusing work is a fireable offence. Remember the few fed techs are the ones that make the money. Everyone else just GLEANS a living from the rest of the shit work if there's any work to do at all. Unfortunately I've seen the worst of it.
I’m only a flat rate lube tech but I was working a tire shop for a year before I just recently started at a union ford dealership. Compared to my last job all I see is pros: better pay, better benefits, amazing split schedule, and nicer shop. I love it so far.
Opened the vid and immediately saw your Snap-On box and thought, “This looks like one of his older vids when he was at his folk’s house or did he leave Toyota?!?!?” Great points! Everything’s a “Waiter” is why I left Lexus. Enjoy your channel. Happy New Year! 👍🏼You’re gonna do well whatever you do. You’re sharp and you WORK!
Old Head here, 27 years in stuck to Flat Rate Dealerships, My 2 kids are now graduated from College, Owned 4 nice homes, had almost anything I've wanted. Have things gone downhill for sure but I see that in most industries. Pensions gone etc. Most of what Nick says about the dealerships is spot on and as a old timer its still pretty good. With that said I have had 4 apprentices in my Nissan Years , 2 are completely out of the Business, One is a service advisor , the other works Fleet for Excell Energy in Colorado. I don't take apprentices on any more, "that would be a good video subject". To Sum it up, I prefer Family Owned Highline Dealerships . I done Mercedes Benz 16 years now The hourly rates are higher and its harder to replace your experience as the cars are more complicated. " Family Owned Dealers vs Corporate owned" another good subject. Dealership Life is not for everyone, I was told by old timers back in the 90s get out while you can. Same story same complaints.
Wish you the best of luck. In the new year. And I totally agree with the pros and cons. I would add to the cons when og team leaders that don’t want to help new techs in their team. I get that they have to make money. But at same time you were made a team leader for a reason.
I’m about to start at a Subaru dealership next week and was like “ok cool let me check out nicks new video about the dealership life”. Basically a whole video of why not to work there😭😭no hate I just thought it was funny
Do it man. It will help you out and It will look good on your resume. Focus on getting your certs and learn as much as you can. There is no shame on leaving for another job.
I been at the stealership I’m at for a year now and I already see a lot of problems. The dispatch system is completely broken, warranty times are ridiculous, throwing parts at cars because of a trouble code since we don’t get paid to diagnose under warranty, upselling unnecessary things like flushes and customers complaining about dumb shit sometimes. It’s ridiculous
"Make money" Only if the work is distributed evenly; I was at a dealership where they used the Tower system and the gravy work went to the sevice writers son.
You stated this perfect. I’m also a Toyota tech. Very high flagging and efficient compared to others and I’m constantly stressed and running around with my head cut off to clear over 6 figures a year. I’m 25 but I can already tell I will not be able to do this at my current rate in my 30’s lmao. I love it and hate it. I hate being that guy that everyone always looks at when I have 40 more hours a week then most but I’m also always running non stopped , stressed , getting shit out on time with a LOW comeback rate and that’s what it takes to make real money in this industry. I try to tell all the young bloods that it is forgiving if you WORK but I haven’t seen a tech come in my dealership since I started with the same enthusiasm to hustle like me and put out quality work. It really makes you wonder..
What are the age ranges for your shop? Just curious cuz the interviews I did for dealerships all had people around that same age or younger, was strange
Some Cons I forgot to mention feel free to add to the list Im sure you guys have plenty more. -You are expected to work like a dog -The work dispatch system is usually broken and select people tend to get the "good work" more then others -Management usually does not have your best interest on their agenda -Most dealerships do not help contribute to your 401k aka retirement Some Pros I forgot would be -Being able to work on your personal car with the lift -Access to the tire machine/alignment rack -Parts discount
Hey I’m 18 right now with my own tools and a nice cart to work out of. I have an ope trinity to work at Stevenson Toyota on top of my trade school and high school. Or I have an independent shop that I’ve been taking my cars to. I know the people there well. I have a years experience at valvoline instant oil in one of the busiest stores in the country seeing 90-115 cars a day on a 3 bay. Experience wise more than money which job should I be more focused on a dealor ship or a a private shop where I see less cars but more variety
@@_JTPR_ I recommend going directly to the independent shop if i were you It will be less stress for sure but you may not earn alot of money because you are new. Trust me, the money will come when you have a few years of experience know the tips and tricks on fixing cars.
I agree with every single point you made. Coming from Toyota and other dealerships as well as independent shops getting flat rate, they’ll always find a way to screw your over for their gain. The unrealistic time expectations are the absolute worst. I luckily got out of the flat rate life.
@John Brennan I’ve been slaving in a shop working 7-630 sometimes until 9 to get all the work that was promised done. Shit blows and I’m happy I’m done with it for now at least. If I ever happen to work in the shop again I will be more prepared with knowing and researching all of this. Thank you
I used to love being a flat rate technician. As you stated in the video the times of the jobs just started to dwindle and I realized that actually going to work was hurting me financially so I made the decision to leave and go to a another dealer. Once I got settled in at the new location I quickly realized that it was the same regardless of where I went. Finally made the decision to do my own thing and now I do work more than I did in the dealer but the money I make is almost scary! I basically write my own paycheck everyday!
@@isorozco511 I work from home in a shop that I had built. I actually work more now than when I was in the dealer. It’s pretty hectic but I make good money for the most part. You have to learn to balance family time and shop time! If I can get that kart under control I’d be doing great. I am starting to slow down bc most days I’m just tired and ppl rush you you to do everything.
@@gregjones8501 for real people are so used to the everything instant or same day thanks to companies like amazon they think auto repair is the same but its not! Smh. But word travels fast when you know fix cars people will blow up your phone
@@isorozco511 I have almost 300 unanswered text messages in my phone. Lol I operate in my yard with two lifts in my shop. Finding help is nearly impossible bc I’m not really official so I do what I can and try not to let it get to me too much. Hopefully I can keep going until I’m able to buy some land, a bigger house and maybe even a nicer shop where ppl would want to work. Idk what the future holds for me but I’m hopeful it’ll be good! Hopefully you find your way also!
Nice video man, very interesting. Im a dealership technician/mechanic in South Africa. Here we have a fixed salary but we can make incentive by ensuring our productivity and efficiency is good and we get checked but all depends of course if its busy or not like you mentioned. So Salary will depend on the dealership/brand and your ability to work hard, not all dealers have a incentive bit it does exits .
Hey Nikko maybe try luxury brands something like Mercedes or Lexus. Just simply for the fact that all the recommendations you sent through with most likely be approved and they pay more. But still as long as you get paid and happy stay up brother.👍
Also one thing to look after when going to a dealership is the service writers, friendly service writers are the beat because they help you out. The bad writers don’t give a fuck and just want it done ASAP
My goals right now is to study for my L1 ase exam and then eventually get my smog license. Also Im thinking of starting mobile detailing business too. I have the tools and been doing it occasionally on the weekends. I like where I work but I want to get paid more lol There's no better feeling than working for yourself.
I’m 22 I just left ford getting 30 Hr entry level and at Jaguars LR getting 32 hourly if it helps pay the bills do it for 1-2 years max and within that time look for opportunities cuz someone will value ur work if u have the experience
I’ve been a tech for about 6 years. I will not work flat rate, too much bs. Having a person that doesn’t know shit about cars control my take home pay is so unappealing . I work at an independent shop where we get salary and a cash bonus if we reach a certain effienency. But we still get rushed and have ridiculous deadlines: and it’s not like we work on one make all day long
Yea shit don't change it just gets worse. Same cons on my list. At my old dealership management didn't give a fuck about anybody actually doing the work. All they cared about was taking care of the sale people and upper management. It was always what have you done for me lately. If you speak truth to power you're on the shit list. They squeeze every bit of juice they can out of the naive new booty trying to make a name for themselves. Saw too many people get the life sucked out of them, then pushed them to quit. I don't know where it's going but it's sad. I do miss having access to a tire machine, alignment rack, and lift almost whenever I want. Also miss working with some dope people. Oh well, life.. Good luck with your new job.
When I was at Ford I actually had fun at work, met a lot of funny and cool techs there. I’m at Toyota now and the cars are a lot easier to work on but my coworkers are like robots lol I feel miserable sometimes
Lets Drift Media and then the 2018 corollas with the seized lock ring. Most people would just take a have in drive gun (brushless) and break it open that way.
Forsure your.going to kill it tho. 1 thing I can say is after a yr or 2 in heavy equipment youe going to be valuable and can get a job anywhere with big pay raise jumps, if you have the confidence.
What would be the most common thing you work on while working at Toyota? I haven't done much regular mechanic work. I've done 2 years of collision and 2 years of Trans work. ( Mostly Chevy trucks) I can have a 4wd Chevy 1500 Trans out in about an hour and a half. And back running after another 1.5 hours. (Assuming nothing breaks (exhaust studs brittle wiring etc)
Hey I’m watched a few of your videos! I just finished the 30,000 maintenance on my wife’s 2019 RAV4 hybrid ! I I’d rather do it myself with OEM Toyota parts then I’d know it’s done right I’ve had my vehicle over filled with oil more than once at the dealer if they can’t get that right what kind of job do you get when it gets technical! Good luck on your new venture I’ll be subscribing and giving you thumbs up! Good luck you will do good! I also watch the “Toyota maintenance” channel
Thanks man. And yea I get where your coming from but gotta remember the people who are doing the oil services at dealers are usually young kids with little to no experience. The techs doing main line work are usually more skilled when it comes to cars. But not always
Im in such a strange dealership that im struggling to figure out where to go with my future. I work at a mazda dealer where pay is very nice (examples being 2 hours for alignment, 1.3 for an oil change/rotate). Very beneficial if you do waiters consistently but when I first got there I worked quickly to become a senior technician there. This is also my first flat rate job so the concept isnt new but the experience is. My problem im having right now is that we are a very small service department. 2 advisors and 6 techs. 3 techs have 2 bays, while me and the other 2 techs have 1 bay. Issue ill have is ill get a warranty job on a timing cover reseal or a recall thats typically a 4-6 hour job and then constantly having to stop what I am doing because we are overbooked with waiters. Im struggling to make my hours past 30+ recently because of it. Ill have to stop everything im doing on a big job to go pick up a damn waiter every other hour and it just kills my motivation to keep going. I know i can be consistent because if I strictly do waiters ill flag 8-10 hours everyday, but at that point what is the purpose of me being a flat rate senior tech? I shouldve just stayed a lube tech if I wanted waiters every single day. I came here because I wanted to expand my knowledge and apply my skill sets to bigger jobs and not be stuck doing oil changes all day. Pay is very nice if my hours are consistent but I cannot balance getting waiters and a diag at the same time while also having 3 recalls sitting on my desk waiting to work on. I start a 2.0 recall just to get stopped 10 minutes into it just because our 11:30 appointment came in...
PROBKEM IN DEALERSHIP LIFE IS THAT PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE FEEDING YOU AS A MECHANIC YOU MAKING YOUR LIVING EVERYONE IS PUTTING ITS EFFORT I HAD WARANTY PEOPLE BE PEDDY ABOUT PAYING ME LIKE IF IT WAS COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET
Great points man, really helpful. I'm currently working my way up to a flat rate with Honda. I've been concerned on how the system 'really' works with flat rate and the pros vs the cons. I do have a question though, does the "brand/make" really make all the difference? In my head I've been battling between staying with Honda or even going to Acura, same brains different faces. Like since their the "luxury" brother, does that make the money better? Even BMW, was the money a big difference between them and Toyota/Chev for you?
i was a honda acura tech and let me tell you it does not pay more. This comment section is full of reasons why its best to leave the industry. Flat rate is an outdated pay system and this industry is getting worse.
Yeah still in a apprentice position, it’s been a year so far. Doing a lot more and stacking my hours, but I do feel what everyone saying and that we gotta work much harder to make something happen. Have to “justify” my hour in order to get it, like I thought we were a dealership smh
I'm at Toyota. A bunch of drama. And our techs rather sit around and play games then actually work. Its sad. I'm a lube tech and been getting handed tech jobs because others refuse.
I wanna be an official mechanic so bad and start my own projects . Only thing is I have a criminal background 🙁 this will hold me back from top name dealerships . I wanna specialize in Nissan & Infiniti. I do know how to change a catalytic converter and change tires and headlights . Any supportive comments and or tips would be glorified 😇
I’m 53 and have been in sales for 20 years. My industry is dead and I am making non wage now. Was making 6 figs. I need steady money and used to be a tech in 1990s. I love working on cars and want to get back in. What is chances to get back into it?
@@LetsDriftMedia Thanks. Your content is great... coming from someone with a lot of work and real life experience and old enough to me your father. lol keep up the good work.
Main reason why I left for hvac because flat rate sucks all the senior techs get the gravy work to get easy hours while the entry level techs get the bs work the senior techs don’t wanna do
Sucks because i love working on cars but i’m only a hobby mechanic and knowing how bad it is at the dealership i wouldnt make a career out of it even tho i want to.
Good video. Question, I have a 2015 rav4. When i go over slight bumps, theres a squeak sound on the drivers side towards the back. Im thinking ball joint or shock. Please let me know based on your experience, thank you.
You should make a video about the EV’s now Pretty sure dealers are going to have to pay there techs high wages to work on EV’s due to your life is at a higher risk. Like who in there right mind will work on EV’s for just double minimum wage (in Cali)
If your making a 1000$a week the dealer will charge for 1 car a 1000$ and if you worked on 5 car a day so the daeler make 5000$ that day times that by 5 days ?can you see where i.m going ?
I gotta disagree with one of your final statements being that going to hourly would make techs lazy. Money isn't the only motivator. If it was, no hourly job on the market would be surviving right now. Dealerships already have the flagged vs clocked hours system. They can use that to reprimand anyone not flagging as many hours as they clocked for timecard fraud. Is this still gonna make dealership shops a little less efficient because techs aren't sweating their nuts off to make 100k a year? Yeah but that's not a bad thing. They'll have to hire more hourly techs to maintain the current level of output and every single tech will be less stressed making ~50k a year. Those that want to bust their ass for more reward still have unionized fleet jobs.
I disagree with you as well. Working in the dealership for 9 years now, Money is the only motivator to work hard. The only people who work hard and bust there ass are the people who want to make more money. The people who dont care just do the bare minimum, Just like most walmart or mc donalds employee. Getting paid min. wage so majority of them dont give a damn about being a great employee They know they will take home the same paycheck regardless. Hourly jobs just come down to how good you are getting paid per hour, better pay = better workers. Trust me if you are a mechanic, and are going to get paid the same no matter how hard you work, no one will work hard. Unless there are some bonuses/incentives for doing so. and if I was a tech with my experience making 50k a year, I would be out of that place in a heart beat. Dealerships do not care about how stressed there techs are. They care about how much money the dealership is making. Sorry for the rant.
@@LetsDriftMedia what's your anecdote for the McDs and comparible lower wage jobs? My experience being a manager for a major retail chain that employs entry level associates at min-wage, this wasn't the case. There are performance metrics and requirements that need to be met day in and day out. If an employer is not using these and holding associates accountable, there will definitely be those around doing the bare minimum to get their check. This is far from the case at most jobs though and this could easily be the case for an hourly waged entry level technician at a dealership.
I can't get a job at a dealership as a apprentice nor mechanic ive tried jiffy lube but they always say to me that they aren't hiring. Try another place but i dont have a car. Its very frustrating.
I’ve noticed all around my area from lube tech to mechanics pay is just too low even for those with experience. So many guys I worked with at factories said they chose to be mechanics as a hobby instead of staying in the automotive field full time. If pay for techs don’t go up I see either lot more accidents on the road due to poor work. Or I see more techs quitting altogether. Already I’ve noticed all over the nation it’s getting difficult to fill positions from lube techs to mechanics. Especially places that want experience and you to have every tool while getting low pay
@@marcbayman5098 that’s pretty much what they pay around here. I work at a tire shop and luckily they pay $15 starting out. All the dealer ships and valvoline are starting out $12. I was sick of the hours of factory work but sadly I made lot more money in a factory
I do feel techs should be compensated more for what they do and how much money they have invested in tools to do the job. The pay at most dealers isnt that bad, but its also not that great. I would honestly say that everywhere Ive worked. 80% of the dealer techs say they wish they chose another field, or they hate there job and want to do something else.
@@George-qx2yq In the factory they have tech levels 1,2,3 . You do stuff from trim work to diagnostic level . You need a part , you can just walk thru the assembly aisle and get that trim or whatever it is. Base pay the Benz factory 🏭 is offering is 28 an hour . I was there back in 2019 , I got the offer again for this year . I can’t go because I have now started my own landscape company in Atlanta . Great opportunity tho
Why would the dealer let you make six figures? if you do it's not for long. The Dealer will say you're overpaid from your hard and correct work and cut flat rate times accordingly. Work harder for less money. They determine how much you'll get paid for a job. If some guys quit so what they hire in others at a lower wage...
I know a few guys working in dealers making six figures. It’s not easy but it can be done being flatrate still also the more a tech is making the more a dealership is making. A techs pay is only a small portion of what the dealer is charging customers lol
Hey buddy I got a 2012 Toyota Camry LE and I’m having a hesitation at 20-25 mph I was having a shudder at 45 mph but it stopped when I got the transmission fluid changed. If I get the torque converter kit with upgraded torque converter, pan magnets and updated software will it happen again
i totally agree with u and sometimes people are scared to leave the dealearship because they’re good at what they do and its hard to work in something else
Depends if you are starting as a lube tech or flat rate tech. If you have no dealership experience I’d guess your starting as a lube tech so minimum wage pretty much maybe 30-35k a year. If you are a flat rate tech than 60k minimum depends on how many hours you pump out.
@@LetsDriftMedia thanks for the reply I don’t have hardcore experience. I’ve just done r&r and my own brakes and clean carbs on my boat and stuff like that. They told me they were going to hire a entry level tech and pay for all the training needed 🤷🏻♂️
@@leetnessgaming9751 no problem. Good luck at times it may suck and you might wanna jump ship if your not making big bucks off the bat but give it a couple years and you will start to make more and have the option to go anywhere once you get experience
Best of luck to dealerships in the near future because everyone is leaving. Everything is a waiter and they work you like a dog. Knowing the dealers in the end it will only effect the customer. You'll be waiting weeks or months to get recalls or big jobs done and will pay through the nose.
The point you stated qauilty and speed, the last 4 months we are having this argument its.getting a joke people are leaving had enough, how can i be fair work on some 40/50K cars and your a techinican rushing to get a car fixed than if you brake something it all comes down on you
way too many cons. Warranty times are ridiculous, free diagnostics when the vehicle is under warranty, parts are back ordered now, less and less cash work, recalls times are low, writers not charging diagnostic time, horrible benefits, wages aren't increasing and so much more things are going wrong. I left the dealer world for the last time and I'm glad I did. The shops that seem to be better now are fleet/diesel shops. Either way the auto industry is dying.
100% agree. The longer you work for a dealership you’ll come to realize and have a new perspective. At the end of the day you’re just a number to the dealer. You can be one of the most knowledgable/productive tech in the shop, drop dead tonight and you’ll be replaced by next week. Warranty/customer pay times are getting worse, technology is always advancing and your constantly learning more for no raise. Then you got entry level techs bitching about making no money and they get raises when they are nowhere as good as you. Doesn’t sit right with me.
No one is anymore than a number to any business. People die on the job at my work and no one even talks about it. It's horrible.
Almost two years into flat rate dealership and here’s my POV.
Pros:
- Mess around with coworkers and talk shit
- Discount on parts
- Access to procedures and special equipment
- Food catering (depends on dealer)
- Bring your own car to work on
- Team leaders and special diagnostic techs are really helpful for desperate times
- Chill ass shop foreman
Cons:
- Benefits are trash, don’t recommend if you have a child
- Every man for themselves
- Bias within advisors
- Unfairness of work - we have a team of techs that do sales cars and new cars therefore it’s gravy work.
- Lots of speed bumps once you turn flat rate. It’s a real learning experience.
Hit it on the nail.
"Bias within advisors"
What exactly do you mean by that?
Like what are some examples?
And basically do all the techs want to be working in the "new car section"?
@@GORILLA_PIMP I think with bias he means advisors often will have a mental order of which techs they would want to work on the vehicle. Also everyone wants new vehicle fix’s because it often something super easy to fix plus decent hours
That’s what I’m thinking . I don’t want to worry about making hours to support a household . I know there’s opportunities out there that pay more with a consistent pay . Example hd mechanic or something like that .
@@user-white007 new cars are more difficult to diagnose and pay nothing because they’re under warranty
Been a BMW tech my entire career from being at texas to now Nevada. Love the dealership I’m at now but I just got a job offer from a Rolls Royce dealership. At the end of the day don’t be afraid to make moves for a better opportunity.
After a year being a dealership tech and so many downsides with the company I left and now work at an independent shop and have been loving it
I started working at cars through the local jiffy lubes around my area, got to learn a lot on there but recently moved to working at dealership. So far I'm loving the change and learning how things work at the dealership I'm at. It did make me wonder what working at the independent shop would be like, is the pay better now that u made the switch?
Ive been following you Nick since I was in college studying automotive. during college and after college i was at my ford dealer and I realized that this flat rate work style was not for me and bounced when covid happened. I got my unemployment and then months later, I started working at an independent shop and I love the environment. I worked as an hourly tech and learned alot more. My checks are smaller but Im more happier. I am working on getting L1 and get my smog license and hopefully open my own shop.
Recently I tore my ACL and I havent been able to work for 6 months now . I've had time to sit and think about this career. I've tried and make my own pros and cons list. Evrytime I make a list. Its mainly cons. For the little money you make its not worth the body aches. Of course you can make good money in this career, but that takes time. Time is money and your body is on a timer. Idk im young and rhats just my opinion so far
Today was my last day at the dealer after working 15 years in the dealership world. did 8 at Ford, 2 at GM, 4 at nissan, and then FCA. Left for a service writer position in a Heavy duty shop. Good luck with your new adventure! Cheers
Nice, what made you decide to get out?
@@LetsDriftMedia Dealer politics in general. The dealership hierarchy and "Performance" based pay structures for service writers, service managers, etc. are a breeding ground for greed. Technicians are underpaid across the board. Shop labour rates have skyrocketed, however tech's wages have been stagnant. When mcdonalds across the street are hiring fry cooks for 21$ an hour.. Says something.
McDonald's fry cook make $12 an hour buddy. almost had me quit my job to work at mickey Ds
@@TheToxiicLover 15 start pay at the Burger King and that's good pay here in Indiana.
@@TheToxiicLover in Canada across the street from the dodge dealer i just left, had signs out front for months advertising that wage.
Ive been working a toyota dealership for just over 3 months now. Did my first oil change in the shop on day one. It took me several weeks of only hitting 15-25hrs/week to finally get into the groove and start hitting 40s regularly. The better jobs definitly have an easier opportunity to make up the difference on time. But in the beginning if you take it slow and make sure theres no mistakes/come backs they will keep you while you grow. Just remember its very corporate. Kill people with kidness and dont be afraid to reject a job that you think will hurt you long term.(passing a state when it shouldnt, a car with a massive oil leak or double/triple gaskets, etc) you are an independent who works at a dealership not a typical salary employee
Don't be afraid to reject a job that's dispatched to you? Refusing work is a fireable offence. Remember the few fed techs are the ones that make the money. Everyone else just GLEANS a living from the rest of the shit work if there's any work to do at all. Unfortunately I've seen the worst of it.
I’m only a flat rate lube tech but I was working a tire shop for a year before I just recently started at a union ford dealership. Compared to my last job all I see is pros: better pay, better benefits, amazing split schedule, and nicer shop. I love it so far.
Opened the vid and immediately saw your Snap-On box and thought, “This looks like one of his older vids when he was at his folk’s house or did he leave Toyota?!?!?” Great points! Everything’s a “Waiter” is why I left Lexus. Enjoy your channel. Happy New Year! 👍🏼You’re gonna do well whatever you do. You’re sharp and you WORK!
lol yea felt like old times at my parents garage sitting in front of it. Thanks for being a long time viewer.
Old Head here,
27 years in stuck to Flat Rate Dealerships, My 2 kids are now graduated from College,
Owned 4 nice homes, had almost anything I've wanted. Have things gone downhill for sure but I see that in most industries. Pensions gone etc.
Most of what Nick says about the dealerships is spot on and as a old timer its still pretty good.
With that said I have had 4 apprentices in my Nissan Years , 2 are completely out of the Business, One is a service advisor , the other works Fleet for Excell Energy in Colorado. I don't take apprentices on any more, "that would be a good video subject".
To Sum it up, I prefer Family Owned Highline Dealerships . I done Mercedes Benz 16 years now
The hourly rates are higher and its harder to replace your experience as the cars are more complicated. " Family Owned Dealers vs Corporate owned" another good subject.
Dealership Life is not for everyone, I was told by old timers back in the 90s get out while you can. Same story same complaints.
Wish you the best of luck. In the new year. And I totally agree with the pros and cons. I would add to the cons when og team leaders that don’t want to help new techs in their team. I get that they have to make money. But at same time you were made a team leader for a reason.
Thanks man and yea forgot to mention that as well as the dispatch system is usually broken or leaning towards one persons favor.
I’m already stressed out by hearing the cons feel like quitting already 😂
I’m about to start at a Subaru dealership next week and was like “ok cool let me check out nicks new video about the dealership life”. Basically a whole video of why not to work there😭😭no hate I just thought it was funny
Do it man. It will help you out and It will look good on your resume. Focus on getting your certs and learn as much as you can. There is no shame on leaving for another job.
i’ve been at a subaru dealership for 6 months. pretty good work environment overall so far.
@@b43z48 I’ve been at Subaru for 2 months now and so far I’m loving it learning through Subaru and the work environment is really friendly
I love being a tech. You can literally go anywhere and grow with this skill !!!
I been at the stealership I’m at for a year now and I already see a lot of problems. The dispatch system is completely broken, warranty times are ridiculous, throwing parts at cars because of a trouble code since we don’t get paid to diagnose under warranty, upselling unnecessary things like flushes and customers complaining about dumb shit sometimes. It’s ridiculous
"Make money" Only if the work is distributed evenly;
I was at a dealership where they used the Tower system and the gravy work went to the sevice writers son.
Yea forgot to mention that part, I will pin a comment of mine with some forgotten cons in a bit.
Im a lead tech at firestone and yeah they always want the job to be done asap
You stated this perfect. I’m also a Toyota tech. Very high flagging and efficient compared to others and I’m constantly stressed and running around with my head cut off to clear over 6 figures a year. I’m 25 but I can already tell I will not be able to do this at my current rate in my 30’s lmao. I love it and hate it. I hate being that guy that everyone always looks at when I have 40 more hours a week then most but I’m also always running non stopped , stressed , getting shit out on time with a LOW comeback rate and that’s what it takes to make real money in this industry. I try to tell all the young bloods that it is forgiving if you WORK but I haven’t seen a tech come in my dealership since I started with the same enthusiasm to hustle like me and put out quality work. It really makes you wonder..
What are the age ranges for your shop? Just curious cuz the interviews I did for dealerships all had people around that same age or younger, was strange
Some Cons I forgot to mention feel free to add to the list Im sure you guys have plenty more.
-You are expected to work like a dog
-The work dispatch system is usually broken and select people tend to get the "good work" more then others
-Management usually does not have your best interest on their agenda
-Most dealerships do not help contribute to your 401k aka retirement
Some Pros I forgot would be
-Being able to work on your personal car with the lift
-Access to the tire machine/alignment rack
-Parts discount
Hey I’m 18 right now with my own tools and a nice cart to work out of. I have an ope trinity to work at Stevenson Toyota on top of my trade school and high school. Or I have an independent shop that I’ve been taking my cars to. I know the people there well. I have a years experience at valvoline instant oil in one of the busiest stores in the country seeing 90-115 cars a day on a 3 bay. Experience wise more than money which job should I be more focused on a dealor ship or a a private shop where I see less cars but more variety
@@_JTPR_ I recommend going directly to the independent shop if i were you It will be less stress for sure but you may not earn alot of money because you are new. Trust me, the money will come when you have a few years of experience know the tips and tricks on fixing cars.
@@MrChickenspit I appreciate it a lot thank you
Always nice when the team leaders rifle through all the work orders and cherry pick the gravy jobs for themselves.
@@_JTPR_ just know you gonna be a lube tech for a while even with trade school
I agree with every single point you made. Coming from Toyota and other dealerships as well as independent shops getting flat rate, they’ll always find a way to screw your over for their gain. The unrealistic time expectations are the absolute worst. I luckily got out of the flat rate life.
@John Brennan in what state is that
@John Brennan I’ve been slaving in a shop working 7-630 sometimes until 9 to get all the work that was promised done. Shit blows and I’m happy I’m done with it for now at least. If I ever happen to work in the shop again I will be more prepared with knowing and researching all of this. Thank you
I used to love being a flat rate technician. As you stated in the video the times of the jobs just started to dwindle and I realized that actually going to work was hurting me financially so I made the decision to leave and go to a another dealer. Once I got settled in at the new location I quickly realized that it was the same regardless of where I went. Finally made the decision to do my own thing and now I do work more than I did in the dealer but the money I make is almost scary! I basically write my own paycheck everyday!
what are you doing now? i hate the dealer life also it sucks
@@isorozco511 I work from home in a shop that I had built. I actually work more now than when I was in the dealer. It’s pretty hectic but I make good money for the most part. You have to learn to balance family time and shop time! If I can get that kart under control I’d be doing great. I am starting to slow down bc most days I’m just tired and ppl rush you you to do everything.
@@gregjones8501 for real people are so used to the everything instant or same day thanks to companies like amazon they think auto repair is the same but its not! Smh. But word travels fast when you know fix cars people will blow up your phone
@@isorozco511 I have almost 300 unanswered text messages in my phone. Lol I operate in my yard with two lifts in my shop. Finding help is nearly impossible bc I’m not really official so I do what I can and try not to let it get to me too much. Hopefully I can keep going until I’m able to buy some land, a bigger house and maybe even a nicer shop where ppl would want to work. Idk what the future holds for me but I’m hopeful it’ll be good! Hopefully you find your way also!
Good luck on your new adventure and Happy New Year.
Yep unfair dispatching, back flagging, feeding gravy work to hourly lube techs sounds all too familiar. That’s why we went UNION now we run the shop.
That’s why every non union dealer you go to hourly techs are getting milked for their cheap labor while the flat rate techs are left starving.
Best of luck in the future. With your skills, it's just the beginning of a successful life. PEACE
Great Topic Broski 😎🍻
Nice video man, very interesting. Im a dealership technician/mechanic in South Africa.
Here we have a fixed salary but we can make incentive by ensuring our productivity and efficiency is good and we get checked but all depends of course if its busy or not like you mentioned.
So Salary will depend on the dealership/brand and your ability to work hard, not all dealers have a incentive bit it does exits .
Hey Nikko maybe try luxury brands something like Mercedes or Lexus. Just simply for the fact that all the recommendations you sent through with most likely be approved and they pay more. But still as long as you get paid and happy stay up brother.👍
Also one thing to look after when going to a dealership is the service writers, friendly service writers are the beat because they help you out. The bad writers don’t give a fuck and just want it done ASAP
The only "real dealership techmician" on youtube, thank you man. I'm lost though, no more toyota? Why did you leave ?
As many pros and cons a person can list, my number one thing to tell people is that your tool box has wheels for a reason🤷🏽♂️
My goals right now is to study for my L1 ase exam and then eventually get my smog license. Also Im thinking of starting mobile detailing business too. I have the tools and been doing it occasionally on the weekends. I like where I work but I want to get paid more lol There's no better feeling than working for yourself.
Hey Im you in the future lol. its may 1 2023 and you got your smog licenses and have more experience. now you are looking for a new place to work lol
I’m 22 I just left ford getting 30 Hr entry level and at Jaguars LR getting 32 hourly if it helps pay the bills do it for 1-2 years max and within that time look for opportunities cuz someone will value ur work if u have the experience
Loved the video nick keep us posted on the fleet life brotha happy new year.
I’ve been a tech for about 6 years. I will not work flat rate, too much bs. Having a person that doesn’t know shit about cars control my take home pay is so unappealing . I work at an independent shop where we get salary and a cash bonus if we reach a certain effienency. But we still get rushed and have ridiculous deadlines: and it’s not like we work on one make all day long
Yea shit don't change it just gets worse. Same cons on my list. At my old dealership management didn't give a fuck about anybody actually doing the work. All they cared about was taking care of the sale people and upper management. It was always what have you done for me lately. If you speak truth to power you're on the shit list. They squeeze every bit of juice they can out of the naive new booty trying to make a name for themselves. Saw too many people get the life sucked out of them, then pushed them to quit. I don't know where it's going but it's sad. I do miss having access to a tire machine, alignment rack, and lift almost whenever I want. Also miss working with some dope people. Oh well, life.. Good luck with your new job.
When I was at Ford I actually had fun at work, met a lot of funny and cool techs there. I’m at Toyota now and the cars are a lot easier to work on but my coworkers are like robots lol I feel miserable sometimes
I'm a flat rate tech last 20 years, 7 Dealerships so far Lol 120 to 140 hrs a pay check
Killin the game.
Happy New Healthy New Year And Best Wishes In Your Future
When COVID started and the corollas has the airbag harness recall. It was pretty busy for a lockdown!
Yea when I came back to toyota, I was doing airbag harness/fuel pump combos on so many corollas.
Lets Drift Media and then the 2018 corollas with the seized lock ring. Most people would just take a have in drive gun (brushless) and break it open that way.
Forsure your.going to kill it tho. 1 thing I can say is after a yr or 2 in heavy equipment youe going to be valuable and can get a job anywhere with big pay raise jumps, if you have the confidence.
Don’t forget about the hot dog lickers and the ones that only grab the “gravy” jobs(brakes,timing belts,full tune ups if they still exist) Lol
I just saw this. AlphaPuff here lets go boyssss
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Thank you for your useful information. Your experience pays the way for the rest of us to learn from young or old.
Happy new year big dawg!
What would be the most common thing you work on while working at Toyota? I haven't done much regular mechanic work. I've done 2 years of collision and 2 years of Trans work. ( Mostly Chevy trucks) I can have a 4wd Chevy 1500 Trans out in about an hour and a half. And back running after another 1.5 hours. (Assuming nothing breaks (exhaust studs brittle wiring etc)
Show me your best ways!!!
YOYOYO thank you for the help on the LS
Ever considered heavy duty fleet tech? Hourly, better benefits, no "rushing"
Hey I’m watched a few of your videos! I just finished the 30,000 maintenance on my wife’s 2019 RAV4 hybrid ! I I’d rather do it myself with OEM Toyota parts then I’d know it’s done right I’ve had my vehicle over filled with oil more than once at the dealer if they can’t get that right what kind of job do you get when it gets technical! Good luck on your new venture I’ll be subscribing and giving you thumbs up! Good luck you will do good! I also watch the “Toyota maintenance” channel
Thanks man. And yea I get where your coming from but gotta remember the people who are doing the oil services at dealers are usually young kids with little to no experience. The techs doing main line work are usually more skilled when it comes to cars. But not always
Im in such a strange dealership that im struggling to figure out where to go with my future. I work at a mazda dealer where pay is very nice (examples being 2 hours for alignment, 1.3 for an oil change/rotate). Very beneficial if you do waiters consistently but when I first got there I worked quickly to become a senior technician there. This is also my first flat rate job so the concept isnt new but the experience is. My problem im having right now is that we are a very small service department. 2 advisors and 6 techs. 3 techs have 2 bays, while me and the other 2 techs have 1 bay. Issue ill have is ill get a warranty job on a timing cover reseal or a recall thats typically a 4-6 hour job and then constantly having to stop what I am doing because we are overbooked with waiters. Im struggling to make my hours past 30+ recently because of it. Ill have to stop everything im doing on a big job to go pick up a damn waiter every other hour and it just kills my motivation to keep going. I know i can be consistent because if I strictly do waiters ill flag 8-10 hours everyday, but at that point what is the purpose of me being a flat rate senior tech? I shouldve just stayed a lube tech if I wanted waiters every single day. I came here because I wanted to expand my knowledge and apply my skill sets to bigger jobs and not be stuck doing oil changes all day. Pay is very nice if my hours are consistent but I cannot balance getting waiters and a diag at the same time while also having 3 recalls sitting on my desk waiting to work on. I start a 2.0 recall just to get stopped 10 minutes into it just because our 11:30 appointment came in...
Sounds like they need to hire more ppl.
What's a "waiter"?
A lift?
@@GORILLA_PIMP no buddy... a customer that is waiting in the lobby and wants their car done asap
Great video yoyo
Ur last comment about hourly pay and effort applies to my industry too. Pest control.
"YO YO YO"....My boy was a john cena fan from the good ol days when wwe was good lol...
Pros and cons on being a fleet mechanic that's the next video
lol ill have to give it some time before I can speak for that.
It's not fast pace trust me no more waiters or stupid service writers bugging you
Is it really that much better? Dealerships are terrible but dont know which route is best outside automotive.
@@lunalancer5971 it's more laid back and there's more perks I get a yearly tool and equipment allowance depending on the place
PROBKEM IN DEALERSHIP LIFE IS THAT PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE FEEDING YOU AS A MECHANIC YOU MAKING YOUR LIVING EVERYONE IS PUTTING ITS EFFORT I HAD WARANTY PEOPLE BE PEDDY ABOUT PAYING ME LIKE IF IT WAS COMING OUT OF THEIR POCKET
For the people that work in dealership shops, is there ever shady jobs where they fake fixing problems to ensure they come back for more repairs?
Great points man, really helpful. I'm currently working my way up to a flat rate with Honda. I've been concerned on how the system 'really' works with flat rate and the pros vs the cons.
I do have a question though, does the "brand/make" really make all the difference? In my head I've been battling between staying with Honda or even going to Acura, same brains different faces. Like since their the "luxury" brother, does that make the money better? Even BMW, was the money a big difference between them and Toyota/Chev for you?
i was a honda acura tech and let me tell you it does not pay more. This comment section is full of reasons why its best to leave the industry. Flat rate is an outdated pay system and this industry is getting worse.
Still in the field?
Yeah still in a apprentice position, it’s been a year so far. Doing a lot more and stacking my hours, but I do feel what everyone saying and that we gotta work much harder to make something happen. Have to “justify” my hour in order to get it, like I thought we were a dealership smh
I work for dodge and HATE dealership BS
I'm at Toyota. A bunch of drama. And our techs rather sit around and play games then actually work. Its sad. I'm a lube tech and been getting handed tech jobs because others refuse.
The real question is would you buy a Toyota?
I wanna be an official mechanic so bad and start my own projects . Only thing is I have a criminal background 🙁 this will hold me back from top name dealerships . I wanna specialize in Nissan & Infiniti. I do know how to change a catalytic converter and change tires and headlights . Any supportive comments and or tips would be glorified 😇
Seen plenty of dealer techs with felony history and had no problem. Its not as hard as you think you be in this career.
I’m 53 and have been in sales for 20 years. My industry is dead and I am making non wage now. Was making 6 figs. I need steady money and used to be a tech in 1990s. I love working on cars and want to get back in. What is chances to get back into it?
Dealers hire literally anyone, Id say chances are high
@@LetsDriftMedia Thanks. Your content is great... coming from someone with a lot of work and real life experience and old enough to me your father. lol keep up the good work.
@@rich1958 😂😂 thanks man
Main reason why I left for hvac because flat rate sucks all the senior techs get the gravy work to get easy hours while the entry level techs get the bs work the senior techs don’t wanna do
its alittle bit of both, I think the senior techs have been in the game so long that they understand how to work the system better as well.
I wanna know how your time at bmw was
Sucks because i love working on cars but i’m only a hobby mechanic and knowing how bad it is at the dealership i wouldnt make a career out of it even tho i want to.
So what’s next in your career
Good video. Question, I have a 2015 rav4. When i go over slight bumps, theres a squeak sound on the drivers side towards the back. Im thinking ball joint or shock. Please let me know based on your experience, thank you.
You should make a video about the EV’s now
Pretty sure dealers are going to have to pay there techs high wages to work on EV’s due to your life is at a higher risk.
Like who in there right mind will work on EV’s for just double minimum wage (in Cali)
Great point
I just learned about how dangerous it is working on EVs last night actually
If your making a 1000$a week the dealer will charge for 1 car a 1000$ and if you worked on 5 car a day so the daeler make 5000$ that day times that by 5 days ?can you see where i.m going ?
Here in japan, working in dealerships isn't fun. Everybody's so serious, you can't even crack any jokes lol
Dam that’s crazy always wondered what dealership techs are like in Japan. Really want to visit Japan one day
I gotta disagree with one of your final statements being that going to hourly would make techs lazy. Money isn't the only motivator. If it was, no hourly job on the market would be surviving right now. Dealerships already have the flagged vs clocked hours system. They can use that to reprimand anyone not flagging as many hours as they clocked for timecard fraud. Is this still gonna make dealership shops a little less efficient because techs aren't sweating their nuts off to make 100k a year? Yeah but that's not a bad thing. They'll have to hire more hourly techs to maintain the current level of output and every single tech will be less stressed making ~50k a year. Those that want to bust their ass for more reward still have unionized fleet jobs.
I disagree with you as well. Working in the dealership for 9 years now, Money is the only motivator to work hard. The only people who work hard and bust there ass are the people who want to make more money. The people who dont care just do the bare minimum, Just like most walmart or mc donalds employee. Getting paid min. wage so majority of them dont give a damn about being a great employee They know they will take home the same paycheck regardless. Hourly jobs just come down to how good you are getting paid per hour, better pay = better workers. Trust me if you are a mechanic, and are going to get paid the same no matter how hard you work, no one will work hard. Unless there are some bonuses/incentives for doing so. and if I was a tech with my experience making 50k a year, I would be out of that place in a heart beat. Dealerships do not care about how stressed there techs are. They care about how much money the dealership is making. Sorry for the rant.
@@LetsDriftMedia what's your anecdote for the McDs and comparible lower wage jobs? My experience being a manager for a major retail chain that employs entry level associates at min-wage, this wasn't the case. There are performance metrics and requirements that need to be met day in and day out. If an employer is not using these and holding associates accountable, there will definitely be those around doing the bare minimum to get their check. This is far from the case at most jobs though and this could easily be the case for an hourly waged entry level technician at a dealership.
Any advice for a new shop tech (long term mobile) been in one shop, looking to go to a dealership. 🤷🏽♂️
I can't get a job at a dealership as a apprentice nor mechanic ive tried jiffy lube but they always say to me that they aren't hiring. Try another place but i dont have a car. Its very frustrating.
Don’t give up. I’m surprised here in socal dealers are hiring lube techs to start off as with 0 experience left and right
Never worked at a dealer always aftermarket
👏👏
Work with your service advisor, if you make him/her look good. pay it forward attitude
I just hate the idea of having to buy your own equipment.. No entry job pays good enough for that. Tools are expensive!
I’ve noticed all around my area from lube tech to mechanics pay is just too low even for those with experience. So many guys I worked with at factories said they chose to be mechanics as a hobby instead of staying in the automotive field full time. If pay for techs don’t go up I see either lot more accidents on the road due to poor work. Or I see more techs quitting altogether. Already I’ve noticed all over the nation it’s getting difficult to fill positions from lube techs to mechanics. Especially places that want experience and you to have every tool while getting low pay
must be nice in my town its damn near impossible to get a lube tech opening or if you do the pay is sub par like 12 an hour
@@marcbayman5098 that’s pretty much what they pay around here. I work at a tire shop and luckily they pay $15 starting out. All the dealer ships and valvoline are starting out $12. I was sick of the hours of factory work but sadly I made lot more money in a factory
I do feel techs should be compensated more for what they do and how much money they have invested in tools to do the job. The pay at most dealers isnt that bad, but its also not that great. I would honestly say that everywhere Ive worked. 80% of the dealer techs say they wish they chose another field, or they hate there job and want to do something else.
@@LetsDriftMedia ya sadly that’s the feeling on most careers right now it seems
@@LetsDriftMedia do you feel at times you would have chosen another field?
Is there any dealerships that have union benefits? Majority of dealerships are private sectors I’m not sure if there are any union.
So what are you doing now that you left flat rate?
So where are you going to work now Nick?
Wonder how much does South Main Auto make?
Wait till you get a job at the factory 🏭 for that brand . The wages will blow the flat rate system out the waters . They make stupid money over there.
interesting, what is the position youjre talking about?
@@George-qx2yq In the factory they have tech levels 1,2,3 . You do stuff from trim work to diagnostic level . You need a part , you can just walk thru the assembly aisle and get that trim or whatever it is. Base pay the Benz factory 🏭 is offering is 28 an hour . I was there back in 2019 , I got the offer again for this year . I can’t go because I have now started my own landscape company in Atlanta . Great opportunity tho
Dropped expensive pen in a/c vent. How do I get it out?
Love your channel but soon as you said "its like high school" NO Thanks!
Why would the dealer let you make six figures? if you do it's not for long. The Dealer will say you're overpaid from your hard and correct work and cut flat rate times accordingly. Work harder for less money. They determine how much you'll get paid for a job. If some guys quit so what they hire in others at a lower wage...
I know a few guys working in dealers making six figures. It’s not easy but it can be done being flatrate still also the more a tech is making the more a dealership is making. A techs pay is only a small portion of what the dealer is charging customers lol
Hey buddy I got a 2012 Toyota Camry LE and I’m having a hesitation at 20-25 mph I was having a shudder at 45 mph but it stopped when I got the transmission fluid changed. If I get the torque converter kit with upgraded torque converter, pan magnets and updated software will it happen again
Bro where you gonna be working now in a independent shop ??
i totally agree with u and sometimes people are scared to leave the dealearship because they’re good at what they do and its hard to work in something else
What would entry level tech expect to make? I got a interview Monday
Depends if you are starting as a lube tech or flat rate tech. If you have no dealership experience I’d guess your starting as a lube tech so minimum wage pretty much maybe 30-35k a year. If you are a flat rate tech than 60k minimum depends on how many hours you pump out.
@@LetsDriftMedia thanks for the reply I don’t have hardcore experience. I’ve just done r&r and my own brakes and clean carbs on my boat and stuff like that. They told me they were going to hire a entry level tech and pay for all the training needed 🤷🏻♂️
@@leetnessgaming9751 no problem. Good luck at times it may suck and you might wanna jump ship if your not making big bucks off the bat but give it a couple years and you will start to make more and have the option to go anywhere once you get experience
@@LetsDriftMedia he said 20 flat rate but he was going to try and bump me to 25 a hour entry level. That sounds great?
@@LetsDriftMedia how does that sound? I thought it was more then fair?
That’s why you take your car to the dealer to do a transmission service and it doesn’t get done and they still charge you! Probably some crooked tech!
I’ve heard stories of techs doing shady stuff like that. Never actually witnessed it happen tho.
You left Toyota?
Best of luck to dealerships in the near future because everyone is leaving. Everything is a waiter and they work you like a dog. Knowing the dealers in the end it will only effect the customer. You'll be waiting weeks or months to get recalls or big jobs done and will pay through the nose.
Yup recently our dealership made us sign “tool acknowledgment” industrial welfare commission, wage order No.7
No way.
What do you mean by that??
@@sherrodford955 Sounds like the employer will be providing tools, as to not pay the double minimum wage in California.
@4jane20 - what is that?
@@ghostwrench2292 pretty much what oscar said
Is the new opportunity still in the automotive field
Yes, Diesel Fleet tech. hourly.
You know a lot about diesels?
The point you stated qauilty and speed, the last 4 months we are having this argument its.getting a joke people are leaving had enough, how can i be fair work on some 40/50K cars and your a techinican rushing to get a car fixed than if you brake something it all comes down on you
way too many cons. Warranty times are ridiculous, free diagnostics when the vehicle is under warranty, parts are back ordered now, less and less cash work, recalls times are low, writers not charging diagnostic time, horrible benefits, wages aren't increasing and so much more things are going wrong. I left the dealer world for the last time and I'm glad I did. The shops that seem to be better now are fleet/diesel shops. Either way the auto industry is dying.
Should I accept this lube tech position? It pays $75k lol
What did u move on too?
Diesel fleet tech. Hourly.
yah if dealerships start going hourly nothing would get done!