The Aircraft That Could Split Itself In Half | Blackburn B-20

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    Today we’re looking at the Blackburn B-20. This was a flying boat aircraft that used an ingenious mechanism to raise its main hull out of the water, giving its engines and wings a better clearance and angle for take-off and landing.
    Sources:
    Meekcoms.K.J & Morgan.E.B (1994), The British Aircraft Specifications File.
    Jackson.A.J (1989), Blackburn Aircraft Since 1909.
    Buttler, A. L. (2004). British Secret Projects - Fighters & Bombers 1935-1950.
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  • @RexsHangar
    @RexsHangar  ปีที่แล้ว +43

    F.A.Q Section
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    • @billclinton3862
      @billclinton3862 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Can we have a video on the Ki83 or J4M please?

    • @John.0z
      @John.0z ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My first thought - Oh no - RR Vultures!!!

    • @johannderjager4146
      @johannderjager4146 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      A short-form video of the Westland Whirlwind and a Long-Form of the Lockheed P-38 Lightning.

    • @oppio_fiorato
      @oppio_fiorato ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'd love to see some video on 1920s racing floatplanes ( supermarine s26, macchi M.39, ecc..)

    • @emaheiwa8174
      @emaheiwa8174 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love your channel ❤. Id like to see a video about the first italian, french and japanese jets

  • @mkendallpk4321
    @mkendallpk4321 ปีที่แล้ว +122

    Blackburn did not think outside of the box. Instead they threw the box away entirely! Too bad that the idea was not followed up. It made sense.

    • @ZaphodHarkonnen
      @ZaphodHarkonnen ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Blackburn: Why would we think about boxes? They have terrible aerodynamics!
      😂

    • @mkendallpk4321
      @mkendallpk4321 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ZaphodHarkonnen 😆🤣😆 Good one!

    • @andredeketeleastutecomplex
      @andredeketeleastutecomplex ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It makes zero sense to have a fuel bomb underneath a plane, every emergency landing could be deadly, due to sparks and such, and that's one aspect.

    • @NareshSinghOctagon
      @NareshSinghOctagon ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@andredeketeleastutecomplex ,you don't know much about amphibian aircraft,do you?

    • @SheepInACart
      @SheepInACart ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@andredeketeleastutecomplex You might want to look at conventional designs, because a large ratio of both fighters and transports had fuel in the lowest parts of the hull, or even in blisters outside of it, and would be among the first to touch the ground in a gear up landing. But fuel tanks burning aren't common (and then almost exclusively the work of incendiary projectiles), fires are normally engines or munitions. Fuel tanks are also ventilated (or on later types, actually inerted with a ullage gas like CO2), so don't contain explosive conditions... and in a flying boat (the Blackburn shown wasn't even an amphibian) its being mostly submerged in water (which actually makes ventilating more difficult, but it somewhat rules out "sparks" from contact), and reduces fire risk.

  • @vonBlashyrkh
    @vonBlashyrkh ปีที่แล้ว +173

    Considering how many duds Blackburn seem to have produced, I find it quite a feat that they survived long enough to produce aircraft types that saw service

    • @juliancate7089
      @juliancate7089 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Often wondered how they kept getting contracts. Not only did the company produce duds, but some of the ugliest aircraft I've ever seen were produced by Blackburn. I understand that aesthetics aren't important, but it doesn't hurt.

    • @markfranks1329
      @markfranks1329 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      ​@@juliancate7089I'm rather glad they did survive. They did indeed produce some duds by way of Skua/Roc and Firebrand/Firecrest, granted.
      However, there wouldn't be the superb Buccaneer, without Blackburn. We all know what an excellent a/c it turned out to be.

    • @johndell3642
      @johndell3642 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Don't assume that an aircraft company makes all its money from manufacturing its own aircraft. As canny Yorkshire folk, they undercut a lot of the other aircraft companies for sub-contract work. They also had a series of successful types for the Fleet Air Arm in the 1920s-30s. The Dart, Ripon, Baffin and Shark were built in considerable numbers. Their B-2 trainer was a little beauty that equipped their own flying school, training RAF pilots. Their engine division made the Cirrus engines, a popular alternative to DH's Gypsy engines. During the war, they turned out Fairey Swordfish and Barracudas and built Short Sunderlands at the flying-boat factory at Dumbarton. Where they lost out was in keeping young, talented, aircraft designers and draughtsmen. It was hard to keep anyone with talent at their windswept site next to the Humber when the aircraft companies down south offered better working conditions and higher wages, so the quality of their own design work declined during the 1930s. It was getting Barry Laight from Hawker Siddeley that gave them the talent back to build the Buccaneer.

    • @mattbowden4996
      @mattbowden4996 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@markfranks1329 The Skua was not a dud, it was just obsolescent in 1939 - it actually did fairly well in the opening year of the war and I am genuinely at something of a loss to understand where it's poor reputation comes from. So it was 109 fodder... Name my any aircraft of it's era and type that wasn't? It's main problem was that it as more of a dive-bomber than it was a fighter and the FAA had decided they needed a something weighted more heavily to the fighter role so no effort was put into upgrading it. For example, it should have been possible to fit the Taurus engine into the nose of the Skua which would have given it parts commonality with the Albacore and an extra 250 hp for only a 200 lb extra weight.
      Alternatively, if you think the very idea of a dive-bomber/fighter hybrid is stupid then I'd like to know your opinion on the Douglas SDB Dauntless, as it's conceptually identical to the Skua - it just flew three years later than the Skua with all the advantages in technical advancement that brought, including having 50% more horsepower. Both aircraft were designed to be primarily dive bombers with the secondary capability to shoot down maritime patrol craft. Given an upgraded engine as I outlined above, the Skua could have had performance quite close to the SBD - it was only about 30 mph slower than the SBD as it was and the Skua was considered pleasant to fly and fairly agile for it's size.

    • @markfranks1329
      @markfranks1329 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mattbowden4996 Obsolescence? So was the Swordfish but it was considered good enough to still be worthy of service in the RN after its supposed replacement, the Albacore was taken out of front line duties.
      The concept of good design v bad design perhaps being significant in the scheme of things?
      The Skua and its 'sister', the Roc were crap. Many FAA pilots, including a certain Captain Brown, who flew the type weren't exactly enamoured with it as a weapon. Slow and vulnerable.
      As we're talking of turreted fighters, how about the Defiant? It had one good day in The B o B before it was slaughtered, then had to be relegated to nighfighter duties where it had reasonable success.
      Where did I say the concept of a dive bomber was bad? It's a sound weapon system but to be most effective it requires air superiority or strong fighter protection.
      The Skua had non that was considered effective over Norway.
      The Douglas SBD was a world away from those two horrors from Blackburn. Douglas got it right from the word go.
      That's the difference, as I say again, between a good design as opposed to a bad one.

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman ปีที่แล้ว +65

    *Rex: **_"I have a passion for weird and wonderful aircraft."_*
    Same here, Rex. Same here.

    • @marckyle5895
      @marckyle5895 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like the weird and the underdog.

  • @wulfleyn6498
    @wulfleyn6498 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Love how weird and interesting Blackburn designs were.

    • @RexsHangar
      @RexsHangar  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      They were always rather imaginative !

    • @anzaca1
      @anzaca1 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Replace "Blackburn" with "British".

    • @jokesonyou1373
      @jokesonyou1373 ปีที่แล้ว

      Daft & impractical you mean 🤡

    • @mikebaker2436
      @mikebaker2436 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Imagine being a fly on the wall of a Blackburn design meeting. 😅

    • @alexdarcydestsimon3767
      @alexdarcydestsimon3767 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@anzaca1You could compare Blackburn to Kel Tec

  • @alexdemoya2119
    @alexdemoya2119 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Whoa Phil Swift made an airplane?

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      who?

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      oh, flex tape splitting boat in half guy

    • @GCho733
      @GCho733 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      “To show the power of flex tape…”

    • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
      @Allan_aka_RocKITEman ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@NoNameAtAll2​>>> Oh, THAT _"Phil Swift."_ 🤭

    • @lc1138
      @lc1138 ปีที่แล้ว

      I believed it was Inspector Gadget :/

  • @thomasrotweiler
    @thomasrotweiler ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The same initial specification was "won" by the Saunders-Roe Lerwick. It had a poorer performance (the B-20 had a max speed about 100 mph faster. The Lerwick was also prone to accidents, being unstable in the air and on the water, and had numerous other faults. Only 21 were built, eleven of which were lost in accidents. Perhaps development of the B-20 should have been continued ?

  • @waywardscythe3358
    @waywardscythe3358 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I could imagine the B-20 would be really fun to have as a personal flying boat yacht. you've got a whole nother deck to set up on.

    • @yetanother9127
      @yetanother9127 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I'm now imagining an RAAF B-20 sitting on the waters of some Pacific atoll in between anti-submarine patrols, its crew sitting on folding chairs on the pontoon with magazines and fishing rods :P

    • @marckyle5895
      @marckyle5895 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I cannot believe that anime' hasn't picked up on the B-20. It seems perfect for that genre.

    • @loonatticat
      @loonatticat ปีที่แล้ว

      As soon as I saw retractable pontoon design, I started an imaginary countdown waiting for Rex to casually describe the first catastrophic strut failure. Sadly, it never made it that far. It is a fascinating design to me, mostly because it actually made it past the drawing board and into a flying prototype. I guess Blackburn is known for that sort of thing. Back to your idea of the extra deck- I don’t think I could get comfortable sitting in a space that looks like a waterborne trash compactor.

    • @waywardscythe3358
      @waywardscythe3358 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@yetanother9127 add some jerry rigged tarp awnings, and that's exactly what I was imagining

  • @lebaillidessavoies3889
    @lebaillidessavoies3889 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So they know there is an aileron flutter at the very beginning but they move to the high speed tests.....to see if it disappears at high speed.....

  • @juicemeister1984
    @juicemeister1984 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "to show you the insanity of british engineering, *i sawed this flying boat in half* "

  • @richardw64
    @richardw64 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Such a shame nothing more happened with the B20. Yet another amphib I would like to have.

  • @juliancate7089
    @juliancate7089 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Wow. Blackburn actually made an aircraft that didn't suck. Though, I think the Skua was a decent aircraft for it's time and the Roc (and other turret fighters) was the fault of the Air Ministry, not Blackburn.

    • @juliancate7089
      @juliancate7089 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yetanother9127 Martin pioneered the rotating bomb bay on the XB-51, not Blackburn. I question that the Buccaneer was "good". The fact that it stayed in service for so long is more due to the UK's unwillingness to spend money on defense than a testament to it's quality. Anyway, it's pointless to discuss whether something is "good" or not unless there is some objective measure rather than someone's subjective opinion. Thanks for commenting.

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliancate7089 Are you nuts?! The Buccaneer was excellent.

  • @roadsweeper1
    @roadsweeper1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    hmmm a blackburn aircraft that actually worked and wasnt a laughing stock??? Now thats something thats interesting lol. I wonder how it would have handled a couple of P&W radials postwar instead... Wish i was better at making models, this would be an interesting one to make in a r/c format, especially if you could get the pontoon to work.

  • @thefez-cat
    @thefez-cat ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Of oddball Blackburn designs that were actually built, this is probably my favorite. And of Blackburn's strange birds that never flew off the page, I really love the look of that split-hull B-44 fighter. Am I misunderstanding the drawing, or did it have contra-rotating propellers?

    • @IntrospectorGeneral
      @IntrospectorGeneral ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It was designed around a contraprop Napier Sabre but conceptually based on a modified Blackburn Firebrand. The Firebrand started with a single prop Sabre before moving to a single-prop Bristol Centaurus radial. The most detailed plan views and artists renditions show the B-44 with contra-prop

  • @richmcgee434
    @richmcgee434 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Another peculiar Blackburn design, and one that apparently worked better than I would have expected it to. Shame the loss of the prototype and most of the air crew put an end to practical experimentation with the split-hull concept. They might have been on to something there.

  • @tsr207
    @tsr207 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    While Blackburn did manufacture some strange designs - never forget the marvellous Buccaneer
    that served both with the Royal Navy and Air Force and served in the First Gulf war

    • @mikepj67
      @mikepj67 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah that’s a great aircraft one of my favorites.

    • @mikepj67
      @mikepj67 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Noticed your name tsr that would have been awesome if project was pursued further.

    • @johnholt890
      @johnholt890 ปีที่แล้ว

      Years if producing awful aircraft then a world beater never dull at Blackburn.

    • @Sturminfantrist
      @Sturminfantrist ปีที่แล้ว

      And served with the South African Air Force.

  • @MediumRareOpinions
    @MediumRareOpinions ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What a delightful oddity you have for us today, I've never heard of this aircraft before.

  • @masterskrain2630
    @masterskrain2630 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So THAT'S where the Oberth Class Starship came from....

  • @mirthenary
    @mirthenary ปีที่แล้ว +3

    THAT'S a Blackburn? At first glance I thought it was Blohm und Voss

    • @bobbylee2853
      @bobbylee2853 ปีที่แล้ว

      10:55 Is that a German cross on the pontoon?😅

  • @flightforensics4523
    @flightforensics4523 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    HEART BE STILL! My DREAM fishing boat!

  • @Lord.Kiltridge
    @Lord.Kiltridge ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I always loved the idea of splitting the fuselage for water landings. When I was designing an aircraft as a thought experiment some 30 years ago, I gave this serious consideration.

  • @otakubancho6655
    @otakubancho6655 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This plane could've been a game changer if it had succeeded.

    • @javiergilvidal1558
      @javiergilvidal1558 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Doubt it. Dazzling gimmickry and over-engineering tend to fail at the most critical moment. Imagine being attacked while on the water, having to scramble away at full speed, and that maze of struts and pistons failing to retract. You would be a drag-laden sitting duck. Or, having to land and the system failing to lower, either through malfunction or battle damage. Your plane would be a sure write-off in the best of cases, in the worst it´d be the crew which was to be written off! The Germans learnt at Kursk, and well before that as well, that fancy technical toys were a disaster in the harsh realities of war. The same would happen with this contraption, which couldn´t hold a candle to good ole Sunderland!

    • @None-zc5vg
      @None-zc5vg ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was half-way between a flying-boat and a float-plane: those Vulture engines would have been the kiss of death for any production hopes, whatever the design's other shortcomings

  • @kevanhubbard9673
    @kevanhubbard9673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would have said some kind of seaplane rather than flying boat but,as with most things, there's a grey area between the two.

  • @agolftwittler1223
    @agolftwittler1223 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for yet another great upload.
    First time I've seen the Blacburn B-20.
    Interesting concept, but by 1940 it was too late for it to shine.

  • @loodwich
    @loodwich ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How did you find so many photos of the B-20?
    I knew that plane, but not so many details.

  • @Pillowcase
    @Pillowcase ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Looks weird but seems like a pretty good idea.

    • @javiergilvidal1558
      @javiergilvidal1558 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hardly. Dazzling gimmickry and over-engineering tend to fail at the most critical moment. Imagine being attacked while on the water, having to scramble away at full speed, and that maze of struts and pistons failing to retract. You would be a drag-laden sitting duck. Or, having to land and the system failing to lower, either through malfunction or battle damage. Your plane would be a sure write-off in the best of cases, in the worst it´d be the crew which was to be written off! The Germans learnt at Kursk, and well before that as well, that fancy technical toys were a disaster in the harsh realities of war. The same would happen with this contraption, which couldn´t hold a candle to good ole Sunderland!

  • @jonathan_60503
    @jonathan_60503 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was wondering if it might have been easier to simply build a flying boat with an F-8 Crusader style of variable-incidence wing - though you wouldn't get the handy platform for harbor handling. And then low and behold google shows me that Supermarine already did a variable-incidence winged flying boat; with their 1948 Seagull design.
    So can we have a video on the Seagull please?

  • @ridleymain9234
    @ridleymain9234 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love the B-20 and I’m excited to see what you have found out about it. I have done my own reading but as always I’m Sure Rex has found more information than I could.

  • @RemusKingOfRome
    @RemusKingOfRome ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I liked the concept but thought the float could be pneumatically pumped up with air, using canvas air bags with hard plates attached to contact the water. Thus the whole float section could deflate and fold away. ... my design was rejected by the air ministry as too COOKOOCRAZY ! :D

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      taking off and landing a floatplane/flying boat is hard enough with a rigid hull. I think a flexible hull might just make it way more difficult.

    • @edevans5991
      @edevans5991 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you could revisit this with some kind of dropstitch tech.

    • @RemusKingOfRome
      @RemusKingOfRome ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@edevans5991 Exactly what the air ministry said as they dialed the asylum.

    • @travelbugse2829
      @travelbugse2829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To keep the crew fit, it should have been cranked up and down manually, just like early Spitfire undercarriages. 500 turns each way. Time for my medication...

  • @wbertie2604
    @wbertie2604 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm not sure putting much of the fuel in the part most likely to hit underwater obstructions, leading to a leak, is necessarily wise.

    • @chrismartin3197
      @chrismartin3197 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think quite a few seaplanes had fuel in the floats - thinking Schneider racers (though those weren’t the epitome of practicality, either)

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@chrismartin3197 yes, quite a few did in reality. I'm still not sure it's wise

  • @johnjephcote7636
    @johnjephcote7636 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was reminded of the failure of the Saunders-Roe Lerwick. It looked good but was underpowered and handled badly. Incidentally, the Spitfire floatplane was described by Jeffery Quill as having performed well with little drag from the floats...perhaps something to do with its ancestry in the Schneider Trophy winners.

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Shame that even such technically fascinating planes might find themself on the bottom of the ocean.
    This once more illustrates why there are mor eplane in the ocean than submarines in the sky.

    • @BrassLock
      @BrassLock ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An extremely fascinating observation 😮 thanks for that.
      It's something I've never thought about, (discounting Sub-launched missiles, which are only temporarily airborne, and _leaping submersible leisure craft_ which were just a passing fad anyway).
      There's probably a good poem or comedy sketch there in your notebook. Pity the Goon Show isn't still being produced . . . 😊

    • @jeebusk
      @jeebusk ปีที่แล้ว

      A flying plane,
      Or a sea boat...
      Wait a minute

  • @admiraltiberius1989
    @admiraltiberius1989 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ahhhh Blackburn, weird and wonderful is the company motto.

  • @SueDoeNimh
    @SueDoeNimh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Rex with a Blackburn, the video will be interesting by definition.

  • @neiloflongbeck5705
    @neiloflongbeck5705 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One thing to be aware of prior to 1942 in the RAF Navigators were know as Observers. In 1942 they introduced the Navigator's Wing replacing the previously issued Observer's Wing for those Observers trained as Navigators.

  • @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
    @clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Nice one ..... Rarely tackled subject. I really wanted to see a large scale flying model of this one. I've Seen float hull small models use the same approach.

  • @mannywilliams6409
    @mannywilliams6409 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What I find interesting is that when most flying boats or float planes used radial engines Blackburn went with inline instead.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว

      didn't he say it was an X24? I would consider X engines to be radial, maybe I'm wrong about that.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @MrLBPug I suppose I would concede if the two Vs are smaller than 90°. If they're evenly spaced then I'd still want to call it radial but I know that radial engines normally come with prime numbers of cylinders, which 4 is not. Going to take this as an opportunity to learn about a new type of engine.

  • @aerialcat1
    @aerialcat1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good stuff, I like that you post relevant photos of the topic unlike some others do.

  • @avanticurecanti9998
    @avanticurecanti9998 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Blackburn: purveyors of fine cocaine and unusual aircraft.

  • @koghs
    @koghs ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Isn't that technically just retractable landing gear but for water?

  • @FirstLast_Nba
    @FirstLast_Nba ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Never heard of it, an interesting design for it's time though.

  • @davydatwood3158
    @davydatwood3158 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Kind of the ultimate in variable-geometry aircraft. I bet if they'd come up with this a decade earlier - so that there was time to work out the kinks before flying boats become mostly superfluous - it could have revolutionalised long-range flight.
    Also, that B-44 totally needs to appear in some Luft'46 or Crimson Skies type game. :)

  • @anlydaly5726
    @anlydaly5726 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Though this unusual aircraft didn't workout then, I wonder if (with modern engineering and technology) this strange mechanical masterpiece could actually be plausible.

    • @reneegudjon3204
      @reneegudjon3204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Russians have jet flying boats which are quite aerodynamic without this gimmick

  • @PalHBakka
    @PalHBakka ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In view of the number of white elephants the Air Ministry ordered protypes of during rearmament from 1934 one wonders whther the RAF got more money than it could spend on sensible projects.

  • @spinzanti
    @spinzanti ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also like weed and wonderful aircraft

  • @MagnusVictor2015
    @MagnusVictor2015 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:40 Essentially, Blackburn was the Kel-Tec of its era? Throwing all sorts of weird & wonderful designs out there, just to see what works?

  • @hamburgerofdoom
    @hamburgerofdoom ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very interesting plane

  • @exharkhun5605
    @exharkhun5605 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I see it has the typical Blackburn tail positioned a bit to much forward, only not offensively so like on the Skua and some Firebrand prototypes, it's actually kind of a handsome plane. All it needs is a ridiculous name that isn't quite a pun and isn't quite funny like Blackburn Burnblack or something.

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Bathtub, to evoke the shape of the pontoon?

    • @exharkhun5605
      @exharkhun5605 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@wbertie2604 Ha ha! Yes, I can see the people who perpetrated Blackburn Blackburn on us go for Blackburn Bathtub.

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Given how it killed the test crew, maybe the Blackburn Bastard.

    • @exharkhun5605
      @exharkhun5605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wbertie2604 If we're going to count killing your test-pilots/crew against test aircraft we'd run out of invectives around the 2nd year of manned, heavier-than-air flight.
      Also, notwithstanding the first letter being a "B" I'd reserve that one for something experimental that's more inherently dangerous, or ugly.

    • @wbertie2604
      @wbertie2604 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@exharkhun5605 Sadly, very true.

  • @isthatrubble
    @isthatrubble ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you shouldn't apologise for your voice, every video you do it I've never noticed anything unusual - don't draw our attention to something that's almost not noticeable! you always sound fine

  • @senioravocado1864
    @senioravocado1864 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I know 2 weird designers, Blackburn and Blomm and Voss and I love them both

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Scaled composites?

    • @senioravocado1864
      @senioravocado1864 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brucebaxter6923 idk much about Blackburn cause I just recently found them but I know Blomm and Voss made a fair amount of prototypes which is surprising ngl

    • @roadsweeper1
      @roadsweeper1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, the BV 138 was a lovely aircraft

    • @Ba_Yegu
      @Ba_Yegu ปีที่แล้ว

      Blohm & Voss was originally a shipyard and thus their engineers thought the concept of a float-plane or a flying boat from the sea up, when the aircraft designers often gave the seaworthiness of their amphibious designs only an afterthought.
      But if one is after _really_ weird then seek no further than B&V land planes, like the BV-141.

    • @brucebaxter6923
      @brucebaxter6923 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@senioravocado1864
      Look up what “scaled composites” designs are like

  • @lawrencemartin1113
    @lawrencemartin1113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just brilliant! Thank you. Extraordinary and an incredible story of its involvement somewhere along the line, with a monocled rogue. I reckon this could so easily be crowd funded to build a working copy which could be tested and filmed and which could be a spin off exhibit in its own right. Give it a go!
    Thank you for such an interesting talk.

  • @russkinter3000
    @russkinter3000 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another winner from Blackburn!

  • @TheCow2face
    @TheCow2face ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As someone who watches Drachinifels drydock videos, 3 hours are nothing :D

  • @bhumiriady
    @bhumiriady ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been binge watching your content recently and I really love seeing you cover not only well known aircraft like the F4F Wildcat and P-40 Warhawk, but also the obscure, weird and wonderful planes!
    Keep up the awesome work and I'm looking forward to the next video.^^

  • @bjrntheliar5457
    @bjrntheliar5457 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the vid for sure! small nitpick, i was so excited to see the remains of the vulcure engine at the end and you blue balled me! Ill sub anyway!

  • @janlindtner305
    @janlindtner305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bravo Rex there you hit one of my heart children. Blackburn has always stood for me as one of Great Britain's experimental laboratories in terms of aircraft design. I proudly wear a company buttonhole badge on my tweed jacket. Until your lecture, I always thought that the vulture engines were the Achilles' heel.

  • @kymmoulds
    @kymmoulds ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another interesting and informative video/review as always. Keep em' coming and a BIG thumbs up. Cheers.

  • @letoubib21
    @letoubib21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    _Foue Jacks _*_, , ,_*_ and no Jill?_ *;-)*

  • @brucebaxter6923
    @brucebaxter6923 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There is a catamaran with active suspension that looks similar

  • @lawrencemanning
    @lawrencemanning ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Curious to hear more about how the retraction mechanism worked. Was it telescopic? Presumably hydraulics were involved, but it could have been electric motors? Very interesting video about an interesting plane, thanks!

  • @The_New_IKB
    @The_New_IKB ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Praise Be to the Blackburn Blackburn! All Praise the Church of the Latter Day Bi-plane!

  • @hertzair1186
    @hertzair1186 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A retractable main float for aerodynamic advantage is logical

  • @terencewong-lane4309
    @terencewong-lane4309 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rex, how about the Loire-Nieuport LN.10 inverted gull wing French seaplane prototype?

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks!...lt is not much but i hope it helps......Shoe

  • @Otterwater
    @Otterwater ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blackburn is the British version of Blohm & Voss

  • @devvy_01
    @devvy_01 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blackburn also made a plane which could split its arse in half

  • @ralphe5842
    @ralphe5842 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe gotha had a similar design during ww1

  • @lucasokeefe7935
    @lucasokeefe7935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At 6:00 - Is that an RAF roundel? It looks like... A meatball! What??

    • @johndell3642
      @johndell3642 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's a Type "B" low-visibility roundel, only red and blue with the white missed out. See 3.29 for a better view.

  • @AtholAnderson
    @AtholAnderson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Had a thought while re-watching a Drachinifel video. Did anybody try to build a torpedo bomber that could use surface launched sized torpedoes?

  • @chris_hisss
    @chris_hisss ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks brilliant! Hadn't heard of this one. Sad to hear about its crew demise. This seems like another one that really could have used more development and better engines, and by that time the need just wasn't there. Nice work Rex

  • @urishima
    @urishima ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To show you the power of flex tape...!

  • @Wolfe_Blue
    @Wolfe_Blue ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if there would have been a flutter problem if the floats retracted inward, into the engine nacelles.

  • @Dave174385
    @Dave174385 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another cracking good video, Rex. I'm really enjoying the weird subjects you manage to find data on.

  • @SpaceGhost1701
    @SpaceGhost1701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I misheard what you said at the start, I intially thought you said you had a passion for weed and wonderful aircraft.

    • @spinzanti
      @spinzanti ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same 😂

  • @G_C340
    @G_C340 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    350MPH - bloody hell!

    • @travelbugse2829
      @travelbugse2829 ปีที่แล้ว

      Everyone seems to have missed that - around the same performance as a Mk1 Spitfire.

    • @retardedsandwich101
      @retardedsandwich101 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Probably meant 350kph, no way is that thing going 350mph

  • @jiroproduction8831
    @jiroproduction8831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dear good that tail fin was terrible💀

  • @maryclarafjare
    @maryclarafjare ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As ever, most interesting!!😊

  • @fabovondestory
    @fabovondestory ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sad

  • @mickshawforty
    @mickshawforty ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The b44 looks a bit like a gannet side on ?

  • @jaws848
    @jaws848 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blackburn strikes again

  • @johnforsyth7987
    @johnforsyth7987 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting design choices. That's something of an understatement given Blackburn's history. Thank you for another entertaining and informative video.

  • @stephenremington8448
    @stephenremington8448 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I wonder about the stresses on them struts/scaffolding connecting the pontoon to the plane, especially on landing.

    • @henrikgiese6316
      @henrikgiese6316 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Assuming the actuators are hydraulic I think it might have done better than regular flying boats/seaplanes. The actuators could act as shock absorbers.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@henrikgiese6316 they could even be plumbed into a tuned hydraulic circuit for ideal damping.

    • @alexsis1778
      @alexsis1778 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its really no different than any other pontoon plane but with the addition of powered jacks and the provision to make the struts fold. Fixed pontoons and flying boats were the norm prior to ww2 and were rather well understood. It was only really the explosion of WW2 era airfields that made land based planes more practical. Prior to this there were developed port facilities near almost every major city in the world and very very few official runways. Most planes has to be designed to basically land on an open field or a dirt track prior to this.

    • @jimdavis8391
      @jimdavis8391 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@henrikgiese6316 Alex Moulton? ;)

    • @henrikgiese6316
      @henrikgiese6316 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimdavis8391 I was thinking more like the classic Citroén. 🙂

  • @suryia6706
    @suryia6706 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting design choices !!! Really. That's an understatement

  • @Rogue284
    @Rogue284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ever since I saw a picture of this thing in one of your other videos I wanted to know more about it. Been looking forward to this one.

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job thank you

  • @XSpamDragonX
    @XSpamDragonX ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for always including metric units on screen, I completely agree that aircraft designed and built in imperial units should be primarily described in the same units.

  • @nigozeroichi2501
    @nigozeroichi2501 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heh, when I was ten my brother that was really into aircraft gave me a load of 💩 because (pre internet) I said "it would be cool if they made an X engine" him "NO THAT'S A RADIAL ENGINE! " hmm turns out I was RIGHT!

  • @grahamepigney8565
    @grahamepigney8565 ปีที่แล้ว

    The B20 survived just 12 days between its maiden flight and the crash on 7th April 1940.
    The B40 was cancelled because it had unacceptable performance on one engine, had insuficient improvement over the Short Sunderland III and land-based aircraft were capable of greater ranges.
    The B44 didn't amount to being much more than a flight of fancy and was quickly dropped as the requirement was largely superfluous, the Napier Sabre engine unreliable and the design flawed with serious stability problems.
    Basically Blackburn's seemingly inovative design was a dud.

  • @adriaanboogaard8571
    @adriaanboogaard8571 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm a member of the that union and Payed full dues for 28 years good outfit. It's all up to having Stuart's that get it done. I'm in bad heath and wishing they could do more. In Utah it's use a employee and let say after 28 years of going the extra mile I'm getting the short end of the stick. My Dad was Union and a Dutch WWII survivor they took care of him when B.F. Goodrich moved to Mexico. The water Department City owned is working from home and throwing us Esential personnel away . We serve 5 other Cities. The medical industry used to be a service so did the City. When City adds Corperation to there title. Even Home land security asks are you a Government or are you a Corperation. That was asked in 2002 when the Olympic games came rightful so. Thank for the Video. A.F.S.M.E. keep trying

  • @michaelwright2986
    @michaelwright2986 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    For a Blackburn, that aircraft looks almost handsome. But it seems the only real niche for flying boats was extreme long range.

  • @s.marcus3669
    @s.marcus3669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating stuff!

  • @coreyandnathanielchartier3749
    @coreyandnathanielchartier3749 ปีที่แล้ว

    Vulture engine might have benefited from being submerged, but conversely, they might have boiled the whole English Channel....

  • @johnreep5798
    @johnreep5798 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First comment! Woo hoo!

  • @Mudge07
    @Mudge07 ปีที่แล้ว

    Far from the headliners and ultimate successes of Short, Supermarine, Hawker and Bristol, the whole Blackburn B20 project would've absorbed much expertise; test pilots, aero engineers, aircrew and production staff. Despite the novel design, each one would've seen this as a vital part of the Air Power effort and dedicated their working life to make it a worthy contribution. I like the adaptable efficiency of the float plane, and would've marvelled at the extend/retract sequence if viewed from a suitable vantage point. Again tragedy beset a valiant attempt to achieve military dominance and thankfully there's enough material in your research to paint a picture of that precious history and memories of this chapter in UK aviation history.

  • @manuwilson4695
    @manuwilson4695 ปีที่แล้ว

    Silly, overcomplicated design, with crazy, unreliable engines.

  • @mo07r1
    @mo07r1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Blackburn is known for thinking outside the box; often discovering why the box was there...

  • @drstevenrey
    @drstevenrey 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sadly, this is one of, if not the only other aircraft that actually used the Vulture engine. The Vulture was famous for ruining the Avro Manchester.

  • @drstevenrey
    @drstevenrey ปีที่แล้ว

    Can one 'splain to me why this was done. The 'float' is, extended, 14 feet down, the propellers are 17 feet up. Again why. After all, my float planes have their props two maybe three feet above the water and I see no problem. If the sea, lake, river is choppier than that, you have no business flying there today. Period.

  • @matehavlik4559
    @matehavlik4559 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wut??!
    CEO announces that they are about to receive a contract for a highly secret plane.
    German spy:
    "Einen Kaffee, bitte".