I love that you covered this topic!! You are spot on!! My Min Piin (Mindi) is 7 years old and she dominates my two Doberman puppies (Cyrus & Dana) that are 5 months old. We LOVE them all and it is so fun having them together!
That's great to hear, Jeannie! So glad you enjoy your time so much with these two different breeds. Cyrus, Dana, and Mindi sounds like great companions!
I had my Minpin for 15.5 yrs. I never trained him, he just ‘knew’ things. For example, he immediately knew to use the newspaper as a wee wee pad. I miss him & figure I always will.
You need to do a video on the German Pincher , it’s one of the original breeds used to produce the modern day Doberman ours is 13 months old 42 lbs and is constantly being mistaken for a young Doberman. Thanks great channel!!!
I have one min pin and two Dobermans. I love seeing the differences in temperament. My min pin is a wonderful companion to me, and all three are incredibly protective of the pack.
Our miniature pinscher, Simon, passed a few years back, We lucked into finding two min-pin brothers. We named them Si and Mon - and they have lived up to their tribute to the original Simon!. These beautiful little creatures bring so much joy into our lives. I call them my monkeys because they are so curious about everything - just like curious george. My partner wants to eventually get a doberman, but I'm not sold - to big for our small home. So convince me!
I've had two miniature pinschers and absolutely love the breed. so much so that we just got another one. I've always wanted a Doberman but I've never gotten one. I always had German shorthair pointers and Min pins. We've been without any dogs for a little over a year and decided to get another Min Pin to be a part of the family. I was looking for a fishing buddy, something small to take along on my kayak and hang out with me at work. Someday I'll have the Doberman I have always wanted but the timing just isn't right yet.
Have raised both, I can tell ya one thing. Even without any dna to relate them, the miniatures do embody the complete attitude of the standard Doberman. The rust pup we had was over the top in small dog compensation. He would take flying leaps at peoples hands if they would put them down to their side while walking by one of the many house plants he had buried a dog bone in. We are talking like 6-8 feet of flight time.
how do they not share DNA, homie in Germany created the doberman pinscher to be a bigger min pin, because he felt a bigger min pin would be a good guard dog.
@@DobermanPlanet Yes the color are exactly the same, the size is big different! I got a big female, she got a hight of 52cm (20.4 inches) and a weight of 18kg (39.6lb).
Hi, I work with Doberman rescue and they sprayed is 2nd to none for me I love the breed so much my boy is sitting next to me whilst I am writing this. I am 59 and feel I still have many years of Dobermans in me. No through some health issues. We were considering the mini pin. Honestly, I don’t think I will ever be able to do it. I am hooked
I’ve got the one in the middle, and the origin of both these - the German Pinscher. He’s 8 months and right now he’s definitely hard work, but SUCH a great dog! Super intelligent, friendly with all dogs, and very loving to those he knows (a little aloof with strangers but not aggressive at all). Mine is a stag red which I just LOVE!
So glad you enjoyed your time spent with your Miniature Pinscher. You're right! No such thing as a Mini Doberman - they are two completely separate breeds.
You leave out the most important part Miniature Pinscher is hundreds of years older than dobermans. And miniature pinschers are working dogs, designed to be a ratter on German farms. Docked tails came about for tax collector's purposes. Undock we're farm dogs, docked we're pets and subject to a luxury tax. If you are going to make a video on something make it right.
Great video. We had MinPin for 14yrs(Spike passed Feb 22) and we have a min pin mix. But if you really done the research.... A German named Doberman took a Minpin and German Pinscher and breed up with other breeds to produce a "Doberman Pinscher" . Min Pins are an older breed than the Doberman. Spike would have growled at you if you called him an Miniature Doberman. Lol
We've had 2 female min pins, litter mates for 16+ years. Sadly, one just passed away yesterday 💔. Super smart, rugged, exceptionally healthy, little dogs with big personalities! We also have a male Euro Dobie, 2.5 yrs old. Both breeds wonderful, food hounds for sure, but quite different in many ways. ❤️ I read somewhere that the min-pins were popular kitchen dogs - great ratters. Also, locally (Florida) there was a K9 search team (drugs) comprised of a min pin and a Dobie - the min pin would search ductwork, crawls spaces, etc., while the Dobie covered the rest.
Kitchen dogs - on farms in Germany, backi old days. I always attributed that to their large appetite, lol. Must control their intake or they'll quickly become obese!
Ha! Mini Cooper vs. an actual Cooper!!!! BTW, me I went out and bought a mini Cooper twice. Thank fully I now have a different car cuz I dont think my Dobie would that back seat very comfy!! Loved this comparison of the Doberman vs. Min Pin. I learned alot!
So glad to read that you've learned so much by watching this video! Goal achieved! You are probably right...your Dobie may be a little squished in the Mini Cooper. Haha!
I had a small house and yard had Minies . I got a bigger house on 3/4 of an acer then got Dobermans had 4 of them now have Rottwieler she is as clinging as some of the dobies.
I've been breeding and showing my Miniature Pinschers for about 18 yrs now. When I had my Rotties the pups would climb on top of the Rotties because they are heating pads! Never sit on a blanket on a chair or couch unless you completely lift the blanket completely or you will smash them. Min Pins love their owner and basically hates everyone unless you constantly get them out. They tolerate a judge but barely touching them. They will fence fight with a coyote. The best show dogs happen to be the Reds. Most of the B/R's make great couch potatoes. I have Reds because the very few Blacks I've had temperment wise were soft and structure was not good but their Red littermates were amazing. So much to say and not enough time. 😂. I'm off to the shows this morning. Showing 2 Reds and one Black...not sure how the Black will mature but right now he needs to get more leg under him because he's a long tube at the minute... he's only 6 months old so we will see if he stays in my breeding program. Also the croup on a Miniature Pinschers is level not rounded like the example you have up. American style vs German is huge as well.
I have two min pins, interested in getting a Doberman, and this is spot on! I also just got rid of my Mini Cooper, so that analogy at the end had me crying laughing 😂
Can I ask a question does anyone have a min pin that hates car rides ??? What did you do to curb the barking and flipping out of the dog in the car my first min pin oh Jesus help me in a car it's horrible
Awesome video! I have 2 min pins (I’ve had 4 in total) and currently have 2 Dobermans (I’ve had 3 total). They are my favorite dog breeds by far. It’s so funny seeing them interact. My min pins think they are big “baddies”, and my Dobies think they are little lap dogs. My little guys are definitely the “bosses” of the pack 😂
Love my European Doberman! Thank you for all the information you provide! My sweet boy just turned 3, the best and most loving dog I have ever had the privilege of being a pet parent too!
Great video. I can't get notifications from your channel. The bell icon has a slash across it and won't let me click all notifications. Can you fix that on your end ?
When my Dobbie passed away I looked at Min Pins but soon realised they are a very different breed (not just in size). In the UK we also have Manchester Terriers and English Toy Terriers. They differ in size (Manchester Terriers are sizeably larger than Min Pins) are one of the oldest and increasingly rare dog breed.
Yay Sunday! Love having breakfast to your vids! Def don’t let it discourage u if you live in an apt you can definitely still have a full size Doberman but I do want to stress the “easily gets bored” part! Our boxer can entertain herself for HOURS with toys (ball esp!) but my 9 month old Doberman gets bored FAST! he will play fetch like 3 times before he begins whining or loses interest so apart from daily exercise and walk definitely fit in obedience training and find more challenging games! Lately took out my Simon says color wheel game and trying to get him to touch on the right color! This more challenging idea definitely keeps him hooked a bit longer! A neighbor has a miniature pin. but idk if I’m partial haha but full size dovies FTW! ❤️
Thanks for taking the time to leave this comment, Jenny! Totally agree with you that you can still own a Doberman in an apartment. Here is a great article on that: www.dobermanplanet.com/why-dobermans-can-make-great-apartment-dogs/.
@@DobermanPlanet I always thought min pins were related to Dobermans I love Dobermans my Rosie is 12 years and 4 months old not for sure how much longer I'll have her
I totally love my full size Doberman, but his separation anxiety is off the wall. My husband and I haven’t been anywhere together without the dog in over 2 years. If I had a neighbor kid to call to dog sit so we could go out for awhile I’d do that.
Hey, Lou Ann! If you are consistent with the steps in this article, you should see his separation anxiety melt away: www.dobermanplanet.com/how-to-prevent-separation-anxiety-in-dobermans/. Send us a private message on Facebook or Instagram if not, though!
Perhaps you can do a follow up that includes comparison with the German Pinscher breed as well. I was drawn to this before I took the leap & got a doberman, but am often thinking of what might have been with a slightly smaller breed. Size made a difference to the gender I chose. Dobermans being larger, I chose a female, but a male German Pinscher was my alternative. There were other factors which were considered.
I had a female min pin who loved me so much. But, she bit a couple people when they held their hand out to her. A male min pin loved my husband. He bit people too when they tried to pet him. He had a bad reputation in the neighborhood. My male full size dobie is friendly to pretty much everyone. Maybe because they don’t stick their hand out to touch him?😂
my mom passed away 2 years ago. she had a min pin. the dogs name is Molly. she hasn't been the same since my mom passed. she doesn't really even like to leave my mom's bed. my dad can only get her to leave sometimes. she baiscially leaves to eat and use the bathroom. Can't get her to go on walks or anything ever since. yea she got better over time. but it's obvios she is really depressed. idk what to do for her. she won't even let anyone go near the side of the bed my mom used to sleep on. she is really protective of that side of my dad's bed. is there any tips you have that I could do to help her. thanks for the good content. keep up the good work.
I’ve had both a dob and a MinPins but the MinPins is what I have now due to home size and less need for exercise. They are very headstrong so you have to let them know who’s boss right away but I love the little guys 😍
I live with my Daughter and family .We have a miniature Pinscher and a Chihuahua our min-pin is three months old she is so entertaining an full of get up and go .She don't walk she runs ever place .loves to play and cuddle .
Min pins are awesome, I had one, he was amazing. And my wife's parents used to breed them as well and currently have one. We have an older Boston Terrier and don't want to stress him out by bringing another pup in. So will wait till he's gone and then prob get another Min Pin. (since the Dobe with the kids didn't work out and had to give her up, took month months to get over that loss and failure). Once the Boston goes though (my wifes dog really) it will be the first time since I was maybe 10 years old that I didn't have a dog in the house. Everyone since the one I had at 10, I've always had 1-2 dogs and they've all overlapped for the last 35 years or so.
So sorry you guys couldn't get the Dobie and kids to work out...that's surprising to hear, but know that must have been devastating for all involved! No doubt that your new Miniature Pinscher will be dearly loved just as your Boston Terrier currently is!
@@DobermanPlanet Yea that Dobe was the show pick of the show litter too , Gorgeous female who was 90lbs when I gave her up. She was very sharp, but HIGHLY reactive with a very high prey drive, but I had trained most of the reactiveness out of her. I mean that girl was on alert like i've never seen a dog. Even the breeder (one of the countries top for past 20 or so years) even mentioned she was more of a guard dog than anything else (after she had taken her back). She was as true to old school bred Dobermans as I ever saw. This dobe would notice a leaf floating across the street 100 yards away or a plane way up in the sky. Things i've never seen my other dobes or any other breeds I've had notice or pay attention to. She was with my 3 kids (ages 2-6) from when she was 3 months old to about 13 months. But she just didn't respect them, even though they were so careful and respectful of her. She loved them but it was on her terms. She could play all day with them but they all go to sit down on couch, and she would jump up to lie down beside one of them, and theyd go to pet her and she'd growl at them. It was the strangest thing I've ever seen, she would CHOOSE to lie down beside them and then growl at them when they sometimes pet her or were simply getting up to walk away from her. We did have a couple snaps which was the reason I couldn't take anymore chances. She didn't hurt them but it was scary and you gotta do what you have to when it comes to protecting small children. None of my other 3 previous dobes had issues with children, but I also didn't raise any of those 3 dobes while raising 3 crazy little ones at same time. Looking back, there isn't much I can think I could have done differently, except keeping her off the couch or bed to make sure she knew she was below the kids on the pecking order, since those were the spots where the "snaps" happened.
My 12week old Doberman Obi won’t stop attacking my 4 year old son.. it’s made my son terrified of the dog and I’m really struggling getting the dog to stop.. what can I do?
I met a few min pins. They are hyper little monsters! These tiny dogs could keep up with my boxers. I have a 5 months old Dobie puppy and I'm surprised that he's not as energetic as my boxers. He's active, but not off the wall crazy. You're right, my Dobie isn't very reactive to other dogs. But he is showing signs of protection. Not in a reactive way. More like a deterrent kind of way. Good video. I love German breeds. Have had German breeds pretty much all my life. Your channel has made me appreciate the Doberman a lot more. The one thing I wish I knew was that their intelligence is not an overstatement. They really are incredibly intelligent to the point that it's scary. How quickly they are able to learn new commands and tricks is above and beyond what I was used to working with Boxers. Like housebreaking in 3 weeks? I would have thought that was impossible until my Bruce proved me wrong. I would love to see more videos about what "work" we could have our Dobie pups can do besides just obedience training (which is ridiculously easy with this breed) and trick training.
Great to hear from your experience! That video idea has been added to our list of "potential upcoming videos" list. Thanks so much for sharing all your thoughts - glad you enjoyed this video!
In my 30+ years of experience with the Dobermann (have owned American & Euro"s). I've never really had an "off-the-wall" Dob, they're active, but not crazy active. We've also owned a Weimaraner and she had the energy of 10 Dobermann's combined, and her battery never tired. I do agility with mine, and we go for 1 hr hikes/walks twice a day, when I am at work, my wife will train them for short 10 minute sessions usually 2-3 times a day
I have a Manchester terrier, and I've owned Dobermans in the past. Manchester terriers are an old breed that I understand contributed to the Doberman. Our Manchester is, indeed, the spitting image of a Doberman except the rear end curves down slightly. Intelligence is extreme, at least rivalling that of the Doberman. She is MUCH more high-strung, however. Dobermans are not the easiest dogs to train, in spite of their intelligence. My Manchester was very difficult to train because of her high-strung nature. Neither dog needs the mind-numbing repetition that most breeds require. They catch on quickly, but then you have to get into the weeds to explore every permutation of the command you want them to learn. A less intelligent dog will just get into the habit of doing what you want, and not question it so much. I wanted a Doberman, but my wife wanted a dog to cuddle on her lap. Our Manchester is 17 lbs. Having trained many animals (dogs, horses, cats), I am a very capable dog trainer. Our Manchester terrier required all of my abilities and then some. I would not recommend the Manchester terrier to anyone not willing to put in the effort to train their dog. You owe it to the dog and to the people around you.
Hi love ur videos. Can u help point me in the right direction looking for a good breeder. I live in texas but willing to go where need to to get a new member of the family
Great video as always John! You can see how people would draw the comparison but there are definitely differences that go beyond their size. Could you do a video discussing the differences between the Doberman and the Manchester terrier? That’s another breed I often see compared to the Doberman. I was very impressed when I saw one at the Westminster dog show a few years ago. Keep up the good work 👍
I have a Manchester terrier, and I've owned Dobermans in the past. Manchester terriers are an old breed that I understand contributed to the Doberman. Our Manchester is, indeed, the spitting image of a Doberman except the rear end curves down slightly. Intelligence is extreme, at least rivalling that of the Doberman. She is MUCH more high-strung, however. Dobermans are not the easiest dogs to train, in spite of their intelligence. My Manchester was very difficult to train because of her high-strung nature. Neither dog needs the mind-numbing repetition that most breeds require. They catch on quickly, but then you have to get into the weeds to explore every permutation of the command you want them to learn. A less intelligent dog will just get into the habit of doing what you want, and not question it so much. I wanted a Doberman, but my wife wanted a dog to cuddle on her lap. Our Manchester is 17 lbs. Having trained many animals (dogs, horses, cats), I am a very capable dog trainer. Our Manchester terrier required all of my abilities and then some. I would not recommend the Manchester terrier to anyone not willing to put in the effort to train their dog. You owe it to the dog and to the people around you.
On occasion (including now) I Take care of my friends shih tzu and Chihuahua and while I love them both, I am a big dog fan all the way. My Doberman tolerates them when they are here and it is no problem having them, but I feel like my Doberman is much less maintenance. The Chihuahua will pee and poop in the house whenever she feels so you have to always keep an eye on the clock and take her out frequently. My Doberman gives me clear signals as to what he wants and I don’t have to carry him when I am in a hurry!
That would be so stressful cleaning up dog poop and pee all day. No doubt, you are a blessing to your friend and her dogs for taking such good care of them. Totally agree with you about the Dobermans though, Suzanne!
Your video is so far off from center. I have a pack of 7 miniature pinschers and they do everything as a pack. If anything dobermans are a large miniature pinscher not the other way around since min pins are so much older.
I had a min pin when I was in the 7th grade he died of old age when I was 29. I'm now 32. I've want another but they are hard to find Anyone know where I can look online. I live in memphis TIA 😊
You need to do an I.P.O. or protection dog video. My female was trained and was great around kids. Unfortunately I lost her last December. I still have Big Red though.
Good Sunday Morning I bred Miniatures there a very old breed compared to the Doberman 13th Century they were bred as guard lap dogs for German Royalty I look forward to your video's every Sunday Makes my Sunday's funday's excellent comparison's go big or go home
That's very cool, Kimberly! Thanks for commenting and telling us those fun facts about the Miniature Pinschers. Great to see you love watching the videos too - so encouraging to hear!
Where can I get a miniature Doberman A miniature Doberman pincher with the ears and tails done I’m looking for a puppy I would like a female and I would like a red
We have a German Pinschers. They are a great breed and at 45-50 lbs a good mid-sized dog. They are usually cropped and docked in the US and very smart. They are high energy but not crazy!
I am on my 4 th mini pin. I’ve had one dobi…. Both are thee best dogs. Now we recently have a rescue… black border collie/ Australian heeler😳 in every way possible this new dog is like the Dobi. Only they bark a lot and nips constantly at the your heels😳😇lots of work ahead of us😩
Thank you for the video! Mostly agree, but I've gotta add a big similarity: both my dobie and minpin love to be dressed, and both absolutely need clothes for the cold! Dobermans are hands-down more loyal and devoted, but min pins are just... funnier. They got that comedy instinct you just can't teach. Personally I can't have one without the other. ❤
I downsized😂 after having staffys. My main reason was after having all my dogs reach old age I found their weight became an issue for me and them as they got older and lost their mobility. The little dog is easy to pick up and take to the vet. I would put staffys as my all time favourite breed, the min pin is just a more practical choice for me.
I have two female Min Pins, 1 male Min Pin - Chi mix, and a female Doberman. My Doberman has the patience of a saint with these littles. Especially the crabby pants male.
You should check the Toy Manchester Terrier/English Toy Terrier. I had a Doberman and now I have an ETT. They are pretty similar in many ways. 😂 Also, we are thinking about getting a third dog and I’m advocating for a Doberman because they are awesome. Also it’s going to be so cool to go hiking with and ETT and a Doberman. 😂 Cheers 🍻!
“Not likely to wander off and explore“ SO not my dog. He is Dog Houdini and will get out of any collar or vest you try to put on him. He is so social and dying to meet everyone he sees. Although, he is definitely a homebody. Try to figure out that dichotomy One year and 100 pounds
Indeed The Miniature pincher is not closely related to the Doberman But it’s more closely related to the standard pincher a.k.a. the German pincher and like the German pincher the miniature pincher has more terrier in it and both of these two dogs are also closer related to the schnauzers
I would have thought miniature dachshund looked like dobermans, same colouring too. I find it hard to tell the difference between a Doberman puppy and a miniature dachshund. They have a similar temperament too
Min Pins are great and even if not directly related to the Doberman, they share the same bravery and Heart (as you said they have the same ancestors). Here a funny question: could you do a protection-/Guard-Dog training with them? Has anybody done this with a Min Pin? 🙂
the 2 have nothing to do with each other. Loot drive is much higher on a min pin, they are excellent rat hunters. And the prey drive of a Doberman is extremely low compared to a German or Belgian Shepherd. This fits in with his character trait of defensive drive of the family, owner. The Doberman is more responsive to defense than prey drive. The mini is not actually a hero, he flees when threatened and has a soft character. Breeding minis is a selection for small, not for character, small and beautiful is more important for breeders. They are healthy, mine lived to be 14 years old and a Doberman can be happy if it lives to 9 years. I have had 4 Dobers and 1 mini. Participated in 3 world championships with Schutzhund 3 and 1x German Sieger. So I think I know the differences... by the way, the mini is very trainable, she walked perfectly next to me, sitting and doing exercises and tracking, she really enjoyed it. A super nice breed next to the Doberman when you take it on the street...people look surprised. A nice breed that I had a lot of fun with, but absolutely nothing of a Doberman other than the looks
Love to get on but don't no how , thay amazing dog yes flow you ,lisen to you thay very smart dog just whant be with you ,I had a half bead on pop mini , she was my world and cry over her how much I miss her , ❤
The Zwergpinscher (Miniature Pinscher for our can't speak anything but English pals) was a WORKING breed in Germany for at least 100 years before the Doberman existed. There's nothing "Toy" or "Companion breed" about them - 'Merica! 🤣🤣🤣
you forgot to mention that the purpose of Zwergpinscher is to keep the farm and house clear of rodents. it is not bred to be a lap dog. that is the explanation for more independence attitude and better hunting instincts than the Dobermann, who was purposely bred as a guarding dog. my family has bred Rottweiler here in germany since the 70s. I myself own Deutscher Spitz and Zwergpinscher. Small dog breeds are not synonymous with companion dogs or "just for fun". all dogs are good at being companions. you choose the breed and size accordingly to the needs and not just looks.
I love that you covered this topic!! You are spot on!! My Min Piin (Mindi) is 7 years old and she dominates my two Doberman puppies (Cyrus & Dana) that are 5 months old. We LOVE them all and it is so fun having them together!
That's great to hear, Jeannie! So glad you enjoy your time so much with these two different breeds. Cyrus, Dana, and Mindi sounds like great companions!
I had my Minpin for 15.5 yrs.
I never trained him, he just ‘knew’ things. For example, he immediately knew to use the newspaper as a wee wee pad.
I miss him & figure I always will.
You need to do a video on the German Pincher , it’s one of the original breeds used to produce the modern day Doberman ours is 13 months old 42 lbs and is constantly being mistaken for a young Doberman. Thanks great channel!!!
I have one min pin and two Dobermans. I love seeing the differences in temperament. My min pin is a wonderful companion to me, and all three are incredibly protective of the pack.
That's very interesting, Amber! Thanks for sharing your personal experience with us!
Our miniature pinscher, Simon, passed a few years back, We lucked into finding two min-pin brothers. We named them Si and Mon - and they have lived up to their tribute to the original Simon!. These beautiful little creatures bring so much joy into our lives. I call them my monkeys because they are so curious about everything - just like curious george. My partner wants to eventually get a doberman, but I'm not sold - to big for our small home.
So convince me!
Owned two dobermans for years. Can't praise this breed enough! How they love to learn and please; Excellent video Thanks.
I've had two miniature pinschers and absolutely love the breed. so much so that we just got another one. I've always wanted a Doberman but I've never gotten one. I always had German shorthair pointers and Min pins. We've been without any dogs for a little over a year and decided to get another Min Pin to be a part of the family. I was looking for a fishing buddy, something small to take along on my kayak and hang out with me at work. Someday I'll have the Doberman I have always wanted but the timing just isn't right yet.
Have raised both, I can tell ya one thing. Even without any dna to relate them, the miniatures do embody the complete attitude of the standard Doberman. The rust pup we had was over the top in small dog compensation. He would take flying leaps at peoples hands if they would put them down to their side while walking by one of the many house plants he had buried a dog bone in. We are talking like 6-8 feet of flight time.
how do they not share DNA, homie in Germany created the doberman pinscher to be a bigger min pin, because he felt a bigger min pin would be a good guard dog.
I got a German Pinscher! Looks really like a small Dobermann.
Cheers from Switzerland
Their color markings are almost identical, aren't they?! But body shape is different of course. Cheers from America!
@@DobermanPlanet Yes the color are exactly the same, the size is big different! I got a big female, she got a hight of 52cm (20.4 inches) and a weight of 18kg (39.6lb).
Is there such a thing as min pin crossed with doberman? Min pin is too small and doberman is too big?
Hi, I work with Doberman rescue and they sprayed is 2nd to none for me I love the breed so much my boy is sitting next to me whilst I am writing this. I am 59 and feel I still have many years of Dobermans in me. No through some health issues. We were considering the mini pin. Honestly, I don’t think I will ever be able to do it. I am hooked
I have both. Milo is a 2 year old Miniature Pinscher and Loki is a 1 year old Red European Doberman. Love them both
I’ve got the one in the middle, and the origin of both these - the German Pinscher. He’s 8 months and right now he’s definitely hard work, but SUCH a great dog! Super intelligent, friendly with all dogs, and very loving to those he knows (a little aloof with strangers but not aggressive at all). Mine is a stag red which I just LOVE!
I had a mini-pin..Greatest smartest dog I ever had.. never called this dog a mini-doberman.
So glad you enjoyed your time spent with your Miniature Pinscher. You're right! No such thing as a Mini Doberman - they are two completely separate breeds.
Great video as always! I love my min pin but still can’t wait until I move into a bigger house and am able to get a Doberman.
Dobermans can make great apartment dogs, too, Vanessa! Check out this article: www.dobermanplanet.com/why-dobermans-can-make-great-apartment-dogs/.
You leave out the most important part Miniature Pinscher is hundreds of years older than dobermans. And miniature pinschers are working dogs, designed to be a ratter on German farms.
Docked tails came about for tax collector's purposes. Undock we're farm dogs, docked we're pets and subject to a luxury tax.
If you are going to make a video on something make it right.
I currently have my third Doberman I did have a miniature pinscher many years ago and I prefer the Doberman pincher. But both are my favorite dogs
Klevontey, it's neat to hear your experience from both sides of that coin!
I love them both. I've had 3 dobermans and 2 min pins.
Great video. We had MinPin for 14yrs(Spike passed Feb 22) and we have a min pin mix. But if you really done the research.... A German named Doberman took a Minpin and German Pinscher and breed up with other breeds to produce a "Doberman Pinscher" . Min Pins are an older breed than the Doberman. Spike would have growled at you if you called him an Miniature Doberman. Lol
can you do a video on the german pinscher and doberman
Just added that to our "potential upcoming videos" list!
We've had 2 female min pins, litter mates for 16+ years. Sadly, one just passed away yesterday 💔. Super smart, rugged, exceptionally healthy, little dogs with big personalities! We also have a male Euro Dobie, 2.5 yrs old. Both breeds wonderful, food hounds for sure, but quite different in many ways. ❤️ I read somewhere that the min-pins were popular kitchen dogs - great ratters. Also, locally (Florida) there was a K9 search team (drugs) comprised of a min pin and a Dobie - the min pin would search ductwork, crawls spaces, etc., while the Dobie covered the rest.
Kitchen dogs - on farms in Germany, backi old days. I always attributed that to their large appetite, lol. Must control their intake or they'll quickly become obese!
Ha! Mini Cooper vs. an actual Cooper!!!! BTW, me I went out and bought a mini Cooper twice. Thank fully I now have a different car cuz I dont think my Dobie would that back seat very comfy!! Loved this comparison of the Doberman vs. Min Pin. I learned alot!
So glad to read that you've learned so much by watching this video! Goal achieved! You are probably right...your Dobie may be a little squished in the Mini Cooper. Haha!
I had a small house and yard had Minies . I got a bigger house on 3/4 of an acer then got Dobermans had 4 of them now have Rottwieler she is as clinging as some of the dobies.
It's neat to see their similarities and differences, isn't it?!
I've been breeding and showing my Miniature Pinschers for about 18 yrs now. When I had my Rotties the pups would climb on top of the Rotties because they are heating pads! Never sit on a blanket on a chair or couch unless you completely lift the blanket completely or you will smash them. Min Pins love their owner and basically hates everyone unless you constantly get them out. They tolerate a judge but barely touching them. They will fence fight with a coyote. The best show dogs happen to be the Reds. Most of the B/R's make great couch potatoes. I have Reds because the very few Blacks I've had temperment wise were soft and structure was not good but their Red littermates were amazing. So much to say and not enough time. 😂. I'm off to the shows this morning. Showing 2 Reds and one Black...not sure how the Black will mature but right now he needs to get more leg under him because he's a long tube at the minute... he's only 6 months old so we will see if he stays in my breeding program. Also the croup on a Miniature Pinschers is level not rounded like the example you have up. American style vs German is huge as well.
I have two min pins, interested in getting a Doberman, and this is spot on! I also just got rid of my Mini Cooper, so that analogy at the end had me crying laughing 😂
Greets from your biggest fans from belgium, Finn the doberman and Maja 😉❤🐾🐾🐾
Happiest day to you both, Finn and Maja!
Min pins...my favorite breed❤. I lost my girl in 2009 and just recently adopted another girl😁.
Can I ask a question does anyone have a min pin that hates car rides ??? What did you do to curb the barking and flipping out of the dog in the car my first min pin oh Jesus help me in a car it's horrible
Awesome video! I have 2 min pins (I’ve had 4 in total) and currently have 2 Dobermans (I’ve had 3 total). They are my favorite dog breeds by far. It’s so funny seeing them interact. My min pins think they are big “baddies”, and my Dobies think they are little lap dogs. My little guys are definitely the “bosses” of the pack 😂
Are you serious? The Doberman allow them to take over?
Love my European Doberman! Thank you for all the information you provide! My sweet boy just turned 3, the best and most loving dog I have ever had the privilege of being a pet parent too!
Congratulations on your Doberman.
I'd prefer to groom a dobe over a min pin. Min Pins I've met have been a tad nippy with nail clips.
Then I must be a wired one because I would like to have all 3 of the Pinchers (Doberman, Min Pin & the German Pinscher).
More power to you if you get all three!
That sounds like a great idea.
Great video.
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When my Dobbie passed away I looked at Min Pins but soon realised they are a very different breed (not just in size). In the UK we also have Manchester Terriers and English Toy Terriers. They differ in size (Manchester Terriers are sizeably larger than Min Pins) are one of the oldest and increasingly rare dog breed.
Why crop the tail though, if it's a toy lol, the dog uses it for communication.
Great video. Thank you
You're welcome, Jimmy! So glad you enjoyed this one!
Ty for sharing! I love my min pin and doberman so much. 💗
Great Video,thank you John!
Warm regards from germany
🙋♀️🐾Doberman,best dog ever👌
So glad you enjoyed this video, Silvia! As always, our best regards from America!
Yay Sunday! Love having breakfast to your vids! Def don’t let it discourage u if you live in an apt you can definitely still have a full size Doberman but I do want to stress the “easily gets bored” part! Our boxer can entertain herself for HOURS with toys (ball esp!) but my 9 month old Doberman gets bored FAST! he will play fetch like 3 times before he begins whining or loses interest so apart from daily exercise and walk definitely fit in obedience training and find more challenging games! Lately took out my Simon says color wheel game and trying to get him to touch on the right color! This more challenging idea definitely keeps him hooked a bit longer! A neighbor has a miniature pin. but idk if I’m partial haha but full size dovies FTW! ❤️
Thanks for taking the time to leave this comment, Jenny! Totally agree with you that you can still own a Doberman in an apartment. Here is a great article on that: www.dobermanplanet.com/why-dobermans-can-make-great-apartment-dogs/.
Im a proud owner of BOTH 4lb and 100lb!
I have one of each so that's what I would recommend I would definitely agree with your list and behaviors
It's great to hear validation from someone who has both! Personal experience trumps computer research any day!
@@DobermanPlanet I always thought min pins were related to Dobermans I love Dobermans my Rosie is 12 years and 4 months old not for sure how much longer I'll have her
Do you still recommend purina pro plan for a good dry food for Dobermans?
Yes! Don't forget Ollie as well - great source of added nutrients for Dobermans: www.dobermanplanet.com/recommended-products/food-treats/.
You made me love this breed! Thanks!
Such breed specific channels boost out knowledge better!
I totally love my full size Doberman, but his separation anxiety is off the wall. My husband and I haven’t been anywhere together without the dog in over 2 years. If I had a neighbor kid to call to dog sit so we could go out for awhile I’d do that.
Hey, Lou Ann! If you are consistent with the steps in this article, you should see his separation anxiety melt away: www.dobermanplanet.com/how-to-prevent-separation-anxiety-in-dobermans/. Send us a private message on Facebook or Instagram if not, though!
Perhaps you can do a follow up that includes comparison with the German Pinscher breed as well. I was drawn to this before I took the leap & got a doberman, but am often thinking of what might have been with a slightly smaller breed. Size made a difference to the gender I chose. Dobermans being larger, I chose a female, but a male German Pinscher was my alternative. There were other factors which were considered.
Great idea, Troy! That subject has been added to our "potential upcoming videos" list!
Cool vidéo thanks Doberman Planet
You're welcome! So glad you enjoyed it, Cathy!
Great video! I have both breeds and your right doberman wins for overall great dog, but don’t tell my min pin! 😊👍🏻
I had a female min pin who loved me so much. But, she bit a couple people when they held their hand out to her. A male min pin loved my husband. He bit people too when they tried to pet him. He had a bad reputation in the neighborhood. My male full size dobie is friendly to pretty much everyone. Maybe because they don’t stick their hand out to touch him?😂
Haha! Lips are sealed!
Please do a german pinscher vs doberman pinscher video 🙂
That idea has been added to our "potential upcoming videos" list!
On my 5th and 6th min pins. They are truly the king of toys. So much personality!
my mom passed away 2 years ago. she had a min pin. the dogs name is Molly. she hasn't been the same since my mom passed. she doesn't really even like to leave my mom's bed. my dad can only get her to leave sometimes. she baiscially leaves to eat and use the bathroom. Can't get her to go on walks or anything ever since. yea she got better over time. but it's obvios she is really depressed. idk what to do for her. she won't even let anyone go near the side of the bed my mom used to sleep on. she is really protective of that side of my dad's bed. is there any tips you have that I could do to help her. thanks for the good content. keep up the good work.
I’ve had both a dob and a MinPins but the MinPins is what I have now due to home size and less need for exercise. They are very headstrong so you have to let them know who’s boss right away but I love the little guys 😍
I live with my Daughter and family .We have a miniature Pinscher and a Chihuahua our min-pin is three months old she is so entertaining an full of get up and go .She don't walk she runs ever place .loves to play and cuddle .
4 min pins here! Love them and they are all great with little kids.
I love my min pin but she hates the cold, rain, extreme heat/sun and being left alone for more than 10 minutes……😊
Min pins are awesome, I had one, he was amazing. And my wife's parents used to breed them as well and currently have one. We have an older Boston Terrier and don't want to stress him out by bringing another pup in. So will wait till he's gone and then prob get another Min Pin. (since the Dobe with the kids didn't work out and had to give her up, took month months to get over that loss and failure). Once the Boston goes though (my wifes dog really) it will be the first time since I was maybe 10 years old that I didn't have a dog in the house. Everyone since the one I had at 10, I've always had 1-2 dogs and they've all overlapped for the last 35 years or so.
So sorry you guys couldn't get the Dobie and kids to work out...that's surprising to hear, but know that must have been devastating for all involved! No doubt that your new Miniature Pinscher will be dearly loved just as your Boston Terrier currently is!
@@DobermanPlanet Yea that Dobe was the show pick of the show litter too , Gorgeous female who was 90lbs when I gave her up. She was very sharp, but HIGHLY reactive with a very high prey drive, but I had trained most of the reactiveness out of her. I mean that girl was on alert like i've never seen a dog. Even the breeder (one of the countries top for past 20 or so years) even mentioned she was more of a guard dog than anything else (after she had taken her back). She was as true to old school bred Dobermans as I ever saw. This dobe would notice a leaf floating across the street 100 yards away or a plane way up in the sky. Things i've never seen my other dobes or any other breeds I've had notice or pay attention to. She was with my 3 kids (ages 2-6) from when she was 3 months old to about 13 months. But she just didn't respect them, even though they were so careful and respectful of her. She loved them but it was on her terms. She could play all day with them but they all go to sit down on couch, and she would jump up to lie down beside one of them, and theyd go to pet her and she'd growl at them. It was the strangest thing I've ever seen, she would CHOOSE to lie down beside them and then growl at them when they sometimes pet her or were simply getting up to walk away from her. We did have a couple snaps which was the reason I couldn't take anymore chances. She didn't hurt them but it was scary and you gotta do what you have to when it comes to protecting small children. None of my other 3 previous dobes had issues with children, but I also didn't raise any of those 3 dobes while raising 3 crazy little ones at same time. Looking back, there isn't much I can think I could have done differently, except keeping her off the couch or bed to make sure she knew she was below the kids on the pecking order, since those were the spots where the "snaps" happened.
My 12week old Doberman Obi won’t stop attacking my 4 year old son.. it’s made my son terrified of the dog and I’m really struggling getting the dog to stop.. what can I do?
I met a few min pins. They are hyper little monsters! These tiny dogs could keep up with my boxers.
I have a 5 months old Dobie puppy and I'm surprised that he's not as energetic as my boxers. He's active, but not off the wall crazy.
You're right, my Dobie isn't very reactive to other dogs. But he is showing signs of protection. Not in a reactive way. More like a deterrent kind of way.
Good video. I love German breeds. Have had German breeds pretty much all my life.
Your channel has made me appreciate the Doberman a lot more. The one thing I wish I knew was that their intelligence is not an overstatement. They really are incredibly intelligent to the point that it's scary. How quickly they are able to learn new commands and tricks is above and beyond what I was used to working with Boxers. Like housebreaking in 3 weeks? I would have thought that was impossible until my Bruce proved me wrong.
I would love to see more videos about what "work" we could have our Dobie pups can do besides just obedience training (which is ridiculously easy with this breed) and trick training.
Great to hear from your experience! That video idea has been added to our list of "potential upcoming videos" list. Thanks so much for sharing all your thoughts - glad you enjoyed this video!
In my 30+ years of experience with the Dobermann (have owned American & Euro"s). I've never really had an "off-the-wall" Dob, they're active, but not crazy active. We've also owned a Weimaraner and she had the energy of 10 Dobermann's combined, and her battery never tired. I do agility with mine, and we go for 1 hr hikes/walks twice a day, when I am at work, my wife will train them for short 10 minute sessions usually 2-3 times a day
Loved the video, I just want to add that I have a Doberman and a Min Pin…also a pug …. Ohhhh and a Mini Cooper and couldn’t be happier lol
Proud Min Pin owner here 😁 My girl’s name is Ozzy and she might be small but her character sure isn’t 😅
No doubt Ozzy is the star of the show!
mini pincher as any small dogs best for security
I love your vids man!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Another compare & contrast breeds presentation could be for Dobermann Pinscher versus Manchester Terrier.
Just added that to our "potential upcoming videos" list!
I have a Manchester terrier, and I've owned Dobermans in the past. Manchester terriers are an old breed that I understand contributed to the Doberman. Our Manchester is, indeed, the spitting image of a Doberman except the rear end curves down slightly. Intelligence is extreme, at least rivalling that of the Doberman. She is MUCH more high-strung, however. Dobermans are not the easiest dogs to train, in spite of their intelligence. My Manchester was very difficult to train because of her high-strung nature. Neither dog needs the mind-numbing repetition that most breeds require. They catch on quickly, but then you have to get into the weeds to explore every permutation of the command you want them to learn. A less intelligent dog will just get into the habit of doing what you want, and not question it so much. I wanted a Doberman, but my wife wanted a dog to cuddle on her lap. Our Manchester is 17 lbs.
Having trained many animals (dogs, horses, cats), I am a very capable dog trainer. Our Manchester terrier required all of my abilities and then some. I would not recommend the Manchester terrier to anyone not willing to put in the effort to train their dog. You owe it to the dog and to the people around you.
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Hi love ur videos. Can u help point me in the right direction looking for a good breeder. I live in texas but willing to go where need to to get a new member of the family
Great video as always John! You can see how people would draw the comparison but there are definitely differences that go beyond their size. Could you do a video discussing the differences between the Doberman and the Manchester terrier? That’s another breed I often see compared to the Doberman. I was very impressed when I saw one at the Westminster dog show a few years ago. Keep up the good work 👍
I have a Manchester terrier, and I've owned Dobermans in the past. Manchester terriers are an old breed that I understand contributed to the Doberman. Our Manchester is, indeed, the spitting image of a Doberman except the rear end curves down slightly. Intelligence is extreme, at least rivalling that of the Doberman. She is MUCH more high-strung, however. Dobermans are not the easiest dogs to train, in spite of their intelligence. My Manchester was very difficult to train because of her high-strung nature. Neither dog needs the mind-numbing repetition that most breeds require. They catch on quickly, but then you have to get into the weeds to explore every permutation of the command you want them to learn. A less intelligent dog will just get into the habit of doing what you want, and not question it so much. I wanted a Doberman, but my wife wanted a dog to cuddle on her lap. Our Manchester is 17 lbs.
Having trained many animals (dogs, horses, cats), I am a very capable dog trainer. Our Manchester terrier required all of my abilities and then some. I would not recommend the Manchester terrier to anyone not willing to put in the effort to train their dog. You owe it to the dog and to the people around you.
I wonder what you think about the German pinscher
Whats about the german pinscher?
On occasion (including now) I Take care of my friends shih tzu and Chihuahua and while I love them both, I am a big dog fan all the way. My Doberman tolerates them when they are here and it is no problem having them, but I feel like my Doberman is much less maintenance. The Chihuahua will pee and poop in the house whenever she feels so you have to always keep an eye on the clock and take her out frequently. My Doberman gives me clear signals as to what he wants and I don’t have to carry him when I am in a hurry!
That would be so stressful cleaning up dog poop and pee all day. No doubt, you are a blessing to your friend and her dogs for taking such good care of them. Totally agree with you about the Dobermans though, Suzanne!
I have a Min Pin (Rocky) and a Dobie (Rambo). They act a lot alike.
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Thanks for sharing your experience with us! Rocky and Rambo, no doubt, are best buds!
Your video is so far off from center. I have a pack of 7 miniature pinschers and they do everything as a pack. If anything dobermans are a large miniature pinscher not the other way around since min pins are so much older.
My min pin Daisy is my best girl my first small breed dog and she’s amazing, love you made this video my Dutch my dobie would have loved her.
I had a min pin when I was in the 7th grade he died of old age when I was 29. I'm now 32. I've want another but they are hard to find
Anyone know where I can look online. I live in memphis TIA 😊
You need to do an I.P.O. or protection dog video. My female was trained and was great around kids. Unfortunately I lost her last December. I still have Big Red though.
I have a min pin chi mix. He was the runt of the litter and outsized both of his breeds by 10pounds
I don't like the bat ears they have sometimes, how does a person buying a puppy know if it will have the more floppy ears?
The min pin was used to make the Doberman. Also the min pin used to be bred for killing rates and pests
We've had both and your spot on.
Thanks so much for the comment! Great to hear that you agree with this from your own personal experience!
Good Sunday Morning I bred Miniatures there a very old breed compared to the Doberman 13th Century they were bred as guard lap dogs for German Royalty I look forward to your video's every Sunday Makes my Sunday's funday's excellent comparison's go big or go home
That's very cool, Kimberly! Thanks for commenting and telling us those fun facts about the Miniature Pinschers. Great to see you love watching the videos too - so encouraging to hear!
Where can I get a miniature Doberman A miniature Doberman pincher with the ears and tails done I’m looking for a puppy I would like a female and I would like a red
We have a German Pinschers. They are a great breed and at 45-50 lbs a good mid-sized dog. They are usually cropped and docked in the US and very smart. They are high energy but not crazy!
I am on my 4 th mini pin. I’ve had one dobi…. Both are thee best dogs. Now we recently have a rescue… black border collie/ Australian heeler😳 in every way possible this new dog is like the Dobi. Only they bark a lot and nips constantly at the your heels😳😇lots of work ahead of us😩
Thank you for the video! Mostly agree, but I've gotta add a big similarity: both my dobie and minpin love to be dressed, and both absolutely need clothes for the cold!
Dobermans are hands-down more loyal and devoted, but min pins are just... funnier. They got that comedy instinct you just can't teach.
Personally I can't have one without the other. ❤
I downsized😂 after having staffys. My main reason was after having all my dogs reach old age I found their weight became an issue for me and them as they got older and lost their mobility.
The little dog is easy to pick up and take to the vet.
I would put staffys as my all time favourite breed, the min pin is just a more practical choice for me.
You lost me when you said don't go small. I love them both ❤.
My doberman always wants to sleep with me any advice no matter how many times i block him from getting on the bed he still attempts it all noght 😪
I have two female Min Pins, 1 male Min Pin - Chi mix, and a female Doberman. My Doberman has the patience of a saint with these littles. Especially the crabby pants male.
A Doberman Pinscher bit my upper eye lid as a child.
You should check the Toy Manchester Terrier/English Toy Terrier. I had a Doberman and now I have an ETT. They are pretty similar in many ways. 😂
Also, we are thinking about getting a third dog and I’m advocating for a Doberman because they are awesome. Also it’s going to be so cool to go hiking with and ETT and a Doberman. 😂
Cheers 🍻!
“Not likely to wander off and explore“ SO not my dog. He is Dog Houdini and will get out of any collar or vest you try to put on him. He is so social and dying to meet everyone he sees. Although, he is definitely a homebody. Try to figure out that dichotomy
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Indeed The Miniature pincher is not closely related to the Doberman But it’s more closely related to the standard pincher a.k.a. the German pincher and like the German pincher the miniature pincher has more terrier in it and both of these two dogs are also closer related to the schnauzers
Great to hear your point of view and input, Ryan!
I never heard of a miniature pinscher before.
Now you have! :o)
Hilarious and informative!
I would have thought miniature dachshund looked like dobermans, same colouring too. I find it hard to tell the difference between a Doberman puppy and a miniature dachshund. They have a similar temperament too
Min Pins are great and even if not directly related to the Doberman, they share the same bravery and Heart (as you said they have the same ancestors). Here a funny question: could you do a protection-/Guard-Dog training with them? Has anybody done this with a Min Pin? 🙂
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the 2 have nothing to do with each other. Loot drive is much higher on a min pin, they are excellent rat hunters. And the prey drive of a Doberman is extremely low compared to a German or Belgian Shepherd. This fits in with his character trait of defensive drive of the family, owner. The Doberman is more responsive to defense than prey drive.
The mini is not actually a hero, he flees when threatened and has a soft character.
Breeding minis is a selection for small, not for character, small and beautiful is more important for breeders. They are healthy, mine lived to be 14 years old and a Doberman can be happy if it lives to 9 years.
I have had 4 Dobers and 1 mini.
Participated in 3 world championships with Schutzhund 3 and 1x German Sieger.
So I think I know the differences... by the way, the mini is very trainable, she walked perfectly next to me, sitting and doing exercises and tracking, she really enjoyed it. A super nice breed next to the Doberman when you take it on the street...people look surprised.
A nice breed that I had a lot of fun with, but absolutely nothing of a Doberman other than the looks
Love to get on but don't no how , thay amazing dog yes flow you ,lisen to you thay very smart dog just whant be with you ,I had a half bead on pop mini , she was my world and cry over her how much I miss her , ❤
Medium option German Pinscher!
My Doberman can squat so small that she can crawl under the fence and she is only 21 weeks old
Haha! That's a pretty handy skill for her to have!
The Zwergpinscher (Miniature Pinscher for our can't speak anything but English pals) was a WORKING breed in Germany for at least 100 years before the Doberman existed. There's nothing "Toy" or "Companion breed" about them - 'Merica! 🤣🤣🤣
you forgot to mention that the purpose of Zwergpinscher is to keep the farm and house clear of rodents. it is not bred to be a lap dog. that is the explanation for more independence attitude and better hunting instincts than the Dobermann, who was purposely bred as a guarding dog. my family has bred Rottweiler here in germany since the 70s. I myself own Deutscher Spitz and Zwergpinscher. Small dog breeds are not synonymous with companion dogs or "just for fun". all dogs are good at being companions. you choose the breed and size accordingly to the needs and not just looks.