***** First, I have no beef with grammar.Some of my best friends are grammar. Second, hmm. A year ago....so I don't remember the context. Maybe I was mocking her speech patterns? Or perhaps I was just on poorly performing performance enhancement drugs.
blunt rapture As in Piet Hein's grook: It may be observed in a general way That life would be better, distinctly, If more of the people with nothing to say Were able to say it, succinctly.
Emerson Herndon Quite a bit of people in jail/prison are innocent of the crimes they were charged with. The judicial system has little concern for the status of those indicted that come before them. The D.A.s, prosecutors have even less. They are concerned with being 'right' and making a show to the public that they are effective and therefore needed by society. If this were not true then the jails/prisons would not be filled beyond capacity with a need to build more jails/prisons. There exists no program Federally mandated to rehabilitate and improve the situation of those who will eventually be back among the general populace. what happens is young inmates get a criminal collage education on how to be a more effective criminal. The American legal, judicial system is dumb all over and a little ugly on the side (TY FZ). Poverty has EVERYTHING to do with who goes to jail/prison.
TheMighty Chabunga Definitely. I agree 100% But for someone with crack selling or using did break the law (maybe but lets focus on the one that really did break the law) Should not be in jail for 30 years. Thats just insane.
Emerson Herndon At least they should be offered a chance to improve their lot and be a productive (ugh! part of society. We are all in the mouth of madness. The 'system' we depend on is a senseless, devouring beast.
Emerson Herndon You are right. Oliver North was certainly implicated in the sale of weapons to Iran, of which Ronald Reagan should have been aware, even if he wasn't. But in their poorly contrived effort to prove the case against Reagan, Congress granted him immunity, which saved him from going to jail for it. But for that immunity, how sever was the sentence for that crime? Perhaps we'd better check, I'm pretty sure it was three years.
The judge who was in charge of North's case, which carried a penalty of two or three years, is known to have issued sentences of two years and continuing domestic "surveillance" for the horrible offense of having pictures of naked 17-year-olds on the accused's computer.
When arguing about the drug laws, and whether or not anyone should be in jail for pot, etc. The fact remains that the laws were in place before they were arrested and convicted. If everyone were allowed to decide which laws were moral and just, then we would end up in a lawless society. Change the laws, don't excuse the people who broke the law.
Far more children died by English hands than any amount of bombs. 800 years of tyranny is enough to push people over the edge. Northern Ireland like Israel is stolen land... Plantations and then divide and conquer!
Don Wright "Northerm Ireland is Stolen land"? So is North America, and that more recently. The present Queen Elizabeth is the descendant of the leader of a gang from Normandy, that stole England from the Angles and Saxons.
Wrong Northern Ireland was created circa 1926 as part of the deal to free Ireland. Your not very bright are you and your spelling is as deplorable as your psuedo knowledge.
+Don Wright Don, you should know the dates. Northern Ireland, the six counties as it was always referred to when I was growing up, was "an autonomous part of the newly independent Irish Free State, with the right to opt out of it. It promptly exercised this right and left the Free State two days later." That was on 08 December 1922.
The IRA bombing campaign had nothing to do with religion. The Troubles in Northern Ireland was a tribal conflict. True the IRA wanted a united Ireland, but most catholics in NI did not, they wanted equal civil rights. Back in the 1960s many people rented council houses, & only householders could vote in local elections. And the council would allocate house to protestants, thereby ensuring they would keep control of the councils. Catholics marched peacefully & were met with violence. The government in Northern Ireland, Stormont, did nothing grant Catholics equal rights. The government in Westminster were doing nothing. That's when the terrorists turned to violence.
David Keenan I lived there. The majority in the North are Protestant, and when I was there it was perfectly reasonable that they should fear becoming the minority in a united Ireland. The Dublin government was more a puppet of the Vatican than most Catholic countries in Europe. I revisited Ireland from the USA with my wife, and found on the walls of the Cork airport that the contraceptives in our luggage were contraband. Although the proportion of Protestant leaders of the Irish Independence movement was higher than the general population, most of the IRA terrorists are Roman Catholic
The majority of the north of Ireland are Catholic..... Again you make another school boy howler. There are counties in the north which are part of the Republic like Donegal so once again you are wrong. Instead of saying the north of, you must make the distinction between the north and northern.
Penn Jillette reminds me of William Holden's warning in Network about television. That the business of life will become a corrupt comedy.The basketball player misspeaks a few times, and some of his points are bit broad, so Penn throws some cheap comments mocking him and receives over whelming applause.
***** When I visited my dying father in Belfast, the religious/nationalistic warfare was s serious issue, rather more important locally there than the actual Islamic threat anywhere in the USA. More than ten years ago, twenty terrorists planned the atrocity of suicide bombing four buildings with the fuel tanks of stolen aircraft. They succeeded in killing about 3000 people, and civilians foiled the plans of the fourth atrocity, presumably the Capitol, because it's an easier target, And more important, than the White House. Compare this with the tens of thousands we kill on the roads, probably now including people who but for the nearly intolerable "security" measures, would more safely have flown. But the IRA, and even the late Ian Paisley, never issued fatwas against writers and cartoonists, so perhaps in the USA if you write against religious nonsense, Islamic terrorism is a greater threat to you than religion in Britain or Ireland.
***** I wouldn't use the language but yes, the man doesn't come off informed here. That's not my point. My point is Penn Jillette is the manifestation of Paddy Chyasfsky's script that prophesied how rudeness will read better on television than civility. And my point stands.
***** Yes Jillette is more informed and speaks well. That wasn't my point. I agree with Penn Jillette my point was regarding the overwhelming response he received for being snide and rude.
On what point? Because he pretty much started off with some of the most ridiculous claims about Ireland, and proceeded to spiral further into nonsense.
hang on... so Penn Jilette, long one of my heroes on religion, was he seriously saying back in 2002 there shouldn't be ANY security screening at the airport whatsoever? I'll grant you, here in 2016 (& it's been like this for several years now) the TSA needs to be completely overhauled with the amount of horrible employees they have, but to have to do none of that, that's just insane.
Penn's loud and sometimes overbearing persona usually dominates the conversation. But oddly, he can't seem to get a word in here.
But wow. Debbie Schlussel took the dominating-the-conversation part. She never stopped saying nothing. -
***** First, I have no beef with grammar.Some of my best friends are grammar.
Second, hmm. A year ago....so I don't remember the context. Maybe I was mocking her speech patterns?
Or perhaps I was just on poorly performing performance enhancement drugs.
blunt rapture As in Piet Hein's grook:
It may be observed in a general way
That life would be better, distinctly,
If more of the people with nothing to say
Were able to say it, succinctly.
Interesting watching these so many years later- I think Penn has a big ole "I told you so" for some folks...
They are not saying the people in jail are innocent. They are saying that they are over sentenced.
Emerson Herndon Quite a bit of people in jail/prison are innocent of the crimes they were charged with.
The judicial system has little concern for the status of those indicted that come before them. The D.A.s, prosecutors have even less. They are concerned with being 'right' and making a show to the public that they are effective and therefore needed by society.
If this were not true then the jails/prisons would not be filled beyond capacity with a need to build more jails/prisons.
There exists no program Federally mandated to rehabilitate and improve the situation of those who will eventually be back among the general populace. what happens is young inmates get a criminal collage education on how to be a more effective criminal.
The American legal, judicial system is dumb all over and a little ugly on the side (TY FZ).
Poverty has EVERYTHING to do with who goes to jail/prison.
TheMighty Chabunga Definitely. I agree 100% But for someone with crack selling or using did break the law (maybe but lets focus on the one that really did break the law) Should not be in jail for 30 years. Thats just insane.
Emerson Herndon At least they should be offered a chance to improve their lot and be a productive (ugh! part of society.
We are all in the mouth of madness. The 'system' we depend on is a senseless, devouring beast.
Emerson Herndon You are right. Oliver North was certainly implicated in the sale of weapons to Iran, of which Ronald Reagan should have been aware, even if he wasn't. But in their poorly contrived effort to prove the case against Reagan, Congress granted him immunity, which saved him from going to jail for it.
But for that immunity, how sever was the sentence for that crime? Perhaps we'd better check, I'm pretty sure it was three years.
The judge who was in charge of North's case, which carried a penalty of two or three years, is known to have issued sentences of two years and continuing domestic "surveillance" for the horrible offense of having pictures of naked 17-year-olds on the accused's computer.
I think Bill invited pretty chicks onto his panel as foreplay. Clever man.
How did you manage to upload it in 8K?
When arguing about the drug laws, and whether or not anyone should be in jail for pot, etc. The fact remains that the laws were in place before they were arrested and convicted. If everyone were allowed to decide which laws were moral and just, then we would end up in a lawless society. Change the laws, don't excuse the people who broke the law.
Poor Penn. Playing chess with pigeons.
Jane and Debbie look beautiful!
Michael Olowokandi is correct about the IRA. A hundred children is quite a big number in a population of fewer than two million.
Far more children died by English hands than any amount of bombs.
800 years of tyranny is enough to push people over the edge.
Northern Ireland like Israel is stolen land...
Plantations and then divide and conquer!
Don Wright
"Northerm Ireland is Stolen land"? So is North America, and that more recently. The present Queen Elizabeth is the descendant of the leader of a gang from Normandy, that stole England from the Angles and Saxons.
Wrong the Queen's name is Windsor but her real name is Saxe- Coburg und Gotha, they are from German royal liniage the house of Hannover to be precise.
Wrong Northern Ireland was created circa 1926 as part of the deal to free Ireland.
Your not very bright are you and your spelling is as deplorable as your psuedo knowledge.
+Don Wright
Don, you should know the dates. Northern Ireland, the six counties as it was always referred to when I was growing up, was "an autonomous part of the newly independent Irish Free State, with the right to opt out of it. It promptly exercised this right and left the Free State two days later." That was on 08 December 1922.
The IRA bombing campaign had nothing to do with religion. The Troubles in Northern Ireland was a tribal conflict. True the IRA wanted a united Ireland, but most catholics in NI did not, they wanted equal civil rights. Back in the 1960s many people rented council houses, & only householders could vote in local elections. And the council would allocate house to protestants, thereby ensuring they would keep control of the councils. Catholics marched peacefully & were met with violence. The government in Northern Ireland, Stormont, did nothing grant Catholics equal rights. The government in Westminster were doing nothing. That's when the terrorists turned to violence.
David Keenan I lived there. The majority in the North are Protestant, and when I was there it was perfectly reasonable that they should fear becoming the minority in a united Ireland. The Dublin government was more a puppet of the Vatican than most Catholic countries in Europe. I revisited Ireland from the USA with my wife, and found on the walls of the Cork airport that the contraceptives in our luggage were contraband.
Although the proportion of Protestant leaders of the Irish Independence movement was higher than the general population, most of the IRA terrorists are Roman Catholic
You no nothing of Irish history stick to Walt Disney as its probably more your level.
The majority of the north of Ireland are Catholic..... Again you make another school boy howler.
There are counties in the north which are part of the Republic like Donegal so once again you are wrong.
Instead of saying the north of, you must make the distinction between the north and northern.
Don Wright
Who are you replying to?
I'm replying to Albert Rogers.
Penn is great. "When people over 7 yeas old have imaginary friends there's going to be trouble" as a way to bash religion is brutal. Nice work!
6:57 oh no. That won’t pass today
Penn Jillette reminds me of William Holden's warning in Network about television. That the business of life will become a corrupt comedy.The basketball player misspeaks a few times, and some of his points are bit broad, so Penn throws some cheap comments mocking him and receives over whelming applause.
***** It's easy, but not right.
***** When I visited my dying father in Belfast, the religious/nationalistic warfare was s serious issue, rather more important locally there than the actual Islamic threat anywhere in the USA.
More than ten years ago, twenty terrorists planned the atrocity of suicide bombing four buildings with the fuel tanks of stolen aircraft. They succeeded in killing about 3000 people, and civilians foiled the plans of the fourth atrocity, presumably the Capitol, because it's an easier target, And more important, than the White House.
Compare this with the tens of thousands we kill on the roads, probably now including people who but for the nearly intolerable "security" measures, would more safely have flown.
But the IRA, and even the late Ian Paisley, never issued fatwas against writers and cartoonists, so perhaps in the USA if you write against religious nonsense, Islamic terrorism is a greater threat to you than religion in Britain or Ireland.
***** I wouldn't use the language but yes, the man doesn't come off informed here. That's not my point. My point is Penn Jillette is the manifestation of Paddy Chyasfsky's script that prophesied how rudeness will read better on television than civility. And my point stands.
***** Yes Jillette is more informed and speaks well. That wasn't my point. I agree with Penn Jillette my point was regarding the overwhelming response he received for being snide and rude.
Hahahaha Bill Maher's response to Schlussel's first bit of incomprehensible jabber... "What?" hahaha
still laughing now you twit? how about that in 2023, israel hamas war has unprecedent violence.
I kind of agree with Olowokandi
On what point? Because he pretty much started off with some of the most ridiculous claims about Ireland, and proceeded to spiral further into nonsense.
hang on... so Penn Jilette, long one of my heroes on religion, was he seriously saying back in 2002 there shouldn't be ANY security screening at the airport whatsoever? I'll grant you, here in 2016 (& it's been like this for several years now) the TSA needs to be completely overhauled with the amount of horrible employees they have, but to have to do none of that, that's just insane.
Kevin W
The TSA has never demonstrably prevented a terrorist attack.
I think you're mistaking your desire to feel protected with actual protection.
I hate myself for it but have always had a crush on Debbie Schlussel lol
Jane "Kitty Kat" Seymour
birdo623 “Kitty Kat”?
I guess Bill WAS funny back then. Still as ignorant and stubborn but sounds like he spent more time writing jokes.
LAMO Jane seymour said Islam was hijacked...ROFL
schwang wang wang. Debbie Schlussel.
Too liberal .
Paul Gleitman who? What? Too vague.