Chabad Christian like?? No Chabadnik has ever asked me if I wanted to accept the Rebbe as my personal savior. To put on tefillin, yes, but never if I wanted to be saved, and then telling me I’m going to hell if I refuse. This video is a good presentation, but a very broad generalization at best. I’recently have began to read the Tanya. It has some great teaching. But I could never be a full fledged Black Hatter.
As a former Christian journeying into Judaism I have a real difficult time distinguishing between Chabad and Christianity... just my sincere honest sincere opinion.
Chabad is not global Evangelism, They Do Not Condemn the other Jewish groups whereas Christianity and Islam are Global Evangelists who condemn Everyone else that is not of Their Twisted Mindset .
As a person who came out of a state of between Avoda Zara and Judaism (similar to the story of the people and the Prophet Eliyahu on Har Carmel) in which a simple letter from the Lubavitcher Rebbe was the impetus for my release from this state, i have much respect for the Rebbe. What his Chassidim and Shluchim do is not necessarily a reflection on the good he did.
This short dissertation seems to be a screed against chassidism in general. In his closing the Rabbi states that most chassidic sects have little knowledge of the principles of chassidut and are merely held together by the external forces of community. The exception is chabad who adhere to the 'radical' theology of chassidut. He appears to rank the legitimacy of chssidic groups according to their adherence to chassidic theology, and those who have strayed the furthest rank highest in his eyes. In this perverse way he has affirmed that chabad does indeed best represent the chassidic movement which he vehemently opposes. This hearkens back to the old dispute of 200 years ago which was largely resolved in the days of rabbi Chaim of Volozhin. Of course one can criticize elements of chassidut and those followers who may take things too far, however it seems the rabbi's issue with chassidut is deeper than mere philosophical difference.
The approach to avoda Zara goes way beyond Chabad and has afflicted almost all of Orthodoxy with destructive ideas like Daas Torah, the cult of the gedolim as well as yeridas HaDoros and the emphasis on yichus as well as centralised rabbinates and the orgies of chumras everywhere.
You have it wrong. Without Chazal and without Rabbonim you end up with Christianity. Of course, you can't serve the Rebbe, pray to the Rebbe, say that the Rebbe controls the world, etc. That makes it idolatry. However, real Rabbonim pasken halacha.
No you have it wrong. The Samaritans Karaites and Heymanot haven’t got Chazal and Rabbonim but they most certainly are NOT Christians. And they’re going just fine.
אמר רב יהודה אמר רב בשעה שעלה משה למרום מצאו להקב"ה שיושב וקושר כתרים לאותיות אמר לפניו רבש"ע מי מעכב על ידך אמר לו אדם אחד יש שעתיד להיות בסוף כמה דורות ועקיבא בן יוסף שמו שעתיד לדרוש על כל קוץ וקוץ תילין תילין של הלכות § Rav Yehuda says that Rav says: When Moses ascended on High, he found the Holy One, Blessed be He, sitting and tying crowns on the letters of the Torah. Moses said before God: Master of the Universe, who is preventing You from giving the Torah without these additions? God said to him: There is a man who is destined to be born after several generations, and Akiva ben Yosef is his name; he is destined to derive from each and every thorn of these crowns mounds upon mounds of halakhot. It is for his sake that the crowns must be added to the letters of the Torah. www.sefaria.org/Menachot.29b.3 אמר לפניו רבש"ע הראהו לי אמר לו חזור לאחורך הלך וישב בסוף שמונה שורות ולא היה יודע מה הן אומרים תשש כחו כיון שהגיע לדבר אחד אמרו לו תלמידיו רבי מנין לך אמר להן הלכה למשה מסיני נתיישבה דעתו Moses said before God: Master of the Universe, show him to me. God said to him: Return behind you. Moses went and sat at the end of the eighth row in Rabbi Akiva’s study hall and did not understand what they were saying. Moses’ strength waned, as he thought his Torah knowledge was deficient. When Rabbi Akiva arrived at the discussion of one matter, his students said to him: My teacher, from where do you derive this? Rabbi Akiva said to them: It is a halakha transmitted to Moses from Sinai. When Moses heard this, his mind was put at ease, as this too was part of the Torah that he was to receive. www.sefaria.org/Menachot.29b.4 חזר ובא לפני הקב"ה אמר לפניו רבונו של עולם יש לך אדם כזה ואתה נותן תורה ע"י אמר לו שתוק כך עלה במחשבה לפני אמר לפניו רבונו של עולם הראיתני תורתו הראני שכרו אמר לו חזור [לאחורך] חזר לאחוריו ראה ששוקלין בשרו במקולין אמר לפניו רבש"ע זו תורה וזו שכרה א"ל שתוק כך עלה במחשבה לפני Moses returned and came before the Holy One, Blessed be He, and said before Him: Master of the Universe, You have a man as great as this and yet You still choose to give the Torah through me. Why? God said to him: Be silent; this intention arose before Me. Moses said before God: Master of the Universe, You have shown me Rabbi Akiva’s Torah, now show me his reward. God said to him: Return to where you were. Moses went back and saw that they were weighing Rabbi Akiva’s flesh in a butcher shop [bemakkulin], as Rabbi Akiva was tortured to death by the Romans. Moses said before Him: Master of the Universe, this is Torah and this is its reward? God said to him: Be silent; this intention arose before Me. www.sefaria.org/Menachot.29b.5
can you expound on your ideas.....i also have a lot of doubts on orthodox judaism, i'm a baal teshuva, it's not as sincere to mitzvot as the lifestyle portrays......i don't understand what spirituality or connection to G-d is behind incessant davening and Torah study based on poskim that are considered the norm for the application of mitzvot for the average observant.
@@FrumSepharadi After a lot of exploration and discovery the only thing that makes sense to me is that the Five Books of Moses are the word of God. But only the Five Books of Moses, and theyre meant to be taken literally as long as you understand the language they're written in. The books of the Prophets and Writings are important too, but not everything in them is meant to be taken literally. Some things are metaphortical and poetic but they pint us back to and help us understand the Torah. But the Torah is literal truth. As for works like the Talmud, Halachic works, commentaries, etc their power is persuasive. Its good to study them and whatever we're convinced by them is the proper way to keep the Torah is what we should keep. If that means a diversity of different ways of keeping it then so be it.
“…their messianic beliefs seem Christian like” ??? Who do you think came up with the teaching of a coming Mashiach in the first place? The Messianic concept originated in Judaism long before Christianity even existed.
@eliyahulakes7786 yeah I know I don't dispute this I just see similarities that's all although the chabadniks aren't as far down the messianic trail as Christians if they are not careful it could turn into rebbe worship and not worship of the King of heaven g-d. To be fair to chabadniks they bring the lost jews back to the fold and are somewhat friendly with the outside world. But yeah brother your right Christianity at its core is messianic straight from judaisim
In every section of Klal Yisroel there is a hierarchy of hamoin am and rabonim . In the Hasidic world the hamoin am are by and large shomrei mitzvos . In other sections of klal yisroel , the hamoin am are not shomrei mizvos to the same degree. So in that respect , the Hasidim are vindicated .
Seriously, which approach directly to Hashem would you recommend for the gentile European world? The noahides in my impression are basically former christians mostly in ahistorical surroundings, forming and dissolving within generations...
Noahide covenant applies to all man kind. I agree it hasnt really caught on. There is no infrastructure or institutions really. No traditions or shared history. Mostly its either a transition period for people converting or for older folk or former Christians it is a refuge from their past ways
I have been recently following this podcast for mostly political content but ths shiur is dismaying - to brandish chabad as akin to christiantity is simply false - the proof is in the fact that chabad adherents are observing torah and mitzvot and are bringing people closer to hashem - vayameinu bahashem uvemoshe avdo is as old as the torah - yes there are extreme elements but this in no way justfies the wholesale brandishing of this group.
I appreciate your point in referencing the verse where the Israelites trusted in God and in His servant Moses. However, I believe it's important to highlight two differences between that verse and the situation at Chabad: 1) God is mentioned first in that verse, and 2) it speaks of a time when Moses was still alive.
They hold by the Tanya, which dismays the existence of non-jews. Many of our nevim were non-jews. All peoples were created Tselem Elohim according to Torath Moshe... Habad doesn't even sleep in a sukkah when weather is nice.
I think even within Chabad you have variation. I don't think the ones in a place like Missouri have as strong of the problematic messianic beliefs as the lubavitch hasidim in New York.
This Rabbi on this Podcast is playing with Fire!🔥 What does it say about you & your Character when you Disparage Tzaddikim?! You mess with Hashems Chosen ones you will reap the consequences of this Shturum!!!
Yahadut has evolved into "Yiddishkeit" which in itself evolved into the new religion of ''çhumroiss" I doubt an Israelite from the time of King David/Solomon would recognise much. Chabad simply has lost its way, leaderless and rudderless, the rebbi should have seen this well ahead, knowing he has no yoresh. He should have called out to all his followers to make aliyah, as well as himself.
It would be more interesting if the Rabbi had a good grasp of his own theory enough to point at the interesting period of Frankism/Misnagdism/Hasidism and offer a comprehensive working model for how to understand Hasidism. This video mostly just shows that the Rav is more interested in click baits and pointing fingers. I wonder where he feels that the Zionist religious movement which has replaced their primary loyalty which is to God with loyalty to the Medinat Israel (they call it the “beginning of the sprouting of the redemption”. Anyways, tis the state of quarreling minds trying to grasp onto novelty but its really just a pointless spiteful output
Just as antisemitism or leftism is a terrible negative phenomenon, so are the incredible words & beliefs that have been spewed against Chabad. Unfortunately Unfortunately
This is a bit deranged after chatting with a few of the supporters of this in the comments I’m realizing that this is a great example of motivated reasoning. If you ever want to talk to a real Chabad rov about this topic and not to a straw man caricature feel free to reach out. Again why would you be divisive in the Jewish world at a time where we clearly need unity. Anyone who isn’t blinded by their own personal grandiosity can see that Chabad Chassidus consistently spread traditional Judaism and often represent a moral ideal that while no one can fully live up to, is worth striving dor
Very sad…..this fellow edited this clip from a longer discussion, obviously because of its inflammatory content, posts it with an incendiary title, and slanders an entire congregation of Jews, their leader, all their leaders for seven generations, the founder of the group who wrote a Shulchan Aruch accepted far and wide, and then ends off besmirching the Maggid of Mezritch…..all to garner a few extra clicks and views?!?!? Nebach
The Baal Shem Tov and the Maggid of Mezeritch fulfilled their role, the 7 Chabad Rebbes fulfilled their role. Now the unactivated living in the flesh Moshiach and His Donkey are awaiting for the Chabad community to unite with one mission that only they can do that will activate the Redemption. A mission that will bring about the marriage to the Bride the Sister in the Garden. A mission that George Washington Abraham Lincoln and Donald Trump could not achieve. In the Garden, in Turtle Island where the other Holocaust Peoples dwell who never proselytized to the Torah Peoples and whom Hitler himself relished in their Holocaust brought by those who attempted to crucify Torah.
With all due respect Rabbi this is simply not true! The Rebbe was just that a Rebbe, and anyone who proposes otherwise is looked at within chabad circles as at least extremist. Lehavdil to compare to Xianity. As a Rabbi yourself you may have students who revere you but that does not change your status. The Rebbe was the seventh in a chassidic dynasty and if anything he wanted NOT to be the Rebbe. I think you are misrepresenting the majority by using the few as the example. What chabad is doing globally speaks for itself and for the leader of the movement, not the lunatics who tried to dig under 770. They do not represent the movement. Not at all. Shavua Tov.
@@Shoshana-xh6hcThat wasn’t his instruction. He can’t change what others did after his passing. I’ve met the Chabad rabbi in Malmö and didn’t see a single picture of the rebbe in his study. However: there’s also a Chabad rabbi in Frankfurt who keeps a signed dollar he got from the rebbe. And he kissed it on camera. The latter is an example of borderline idolatry. But the former wasn’t like that at all.
Awful to generalize like this. I know Chabad very very well and you are simply wrong. Perhaps the Lubavitch movement in Israel is different. I don't know, but in Chutz L'aretz, only a small minority are truly Meshichist, as far as I can tell. We need unity now, not awful bad mouthing each other.
Correctly said. Not only this man is ignorant about the subject, but like you said he's bad mouthing other Jews when that is completely forbidden, notwithstanding the fact that we need to have unity among us in these dangerous times. Shame on him
Remind me why the second Beis Hamikdash was destroyed? What a shame, and against the greatest tzadikim, and after Oct 7th, when we need more unity. You should have your tefillin checked. You are wearing Tefillin against your heart and head, however they don’t seem to be permeating them.
It's really sad what had become of ChaBaD because there are so many good and important teachings/works from the 1st two ChaBaD rebbeim but that get overlooked or ignored because problematic practices which developed over the years.
You are wrong: One is Globally Evangelising, the other not So far as "avoda zara" Direct your comments to everyone who go to meron lighting fires 🔥 and such nonsense
@@titmus312 Indeed anyone can! I read in a book, a certain rabbi (I think Dunner long time ago) went to India, something to do with a wig & Indian traditions etc, and declared they commit "avoda zara", clearly ignorant of their philosophy, although they are monotheistic (with plenty intermediaries) Point being, just cause a person (with whatever title) said so, it doesn't necessarily make it so
Regarding to Christianity and others lines of similar worship/conception, the matter of the Son (the spiritual Master) and the Father (God), is much more dynamic that what your gross, stagnant and impersonal mind tries to fathom. By the grace of the Father (God) one obtains the Son,and viceversa. The son is not God in terms of omnipotence, omniscience, etc, but, in terms of the message! Because, only an arrogant fool (psil) thinks he can listen directly from God. "Kdoshim tihiyu ki kadosh ani" (lv, 19, 2): do you have such purity? This is way, its referred to Him (the Son) as the Word (logos). Just as when metal is expose long enough to fiere it acts as fiere, similarly, the Son (the Spiritual Master, he who cams in disciplic succestion in divine line), is one with God... but different, simultaneously! Is like the concept of Mac Luhan: "the media is the message"! The bloodline (ius sanguini), which is but a pagan idea (base on the concept of Aristocracy), is nothing but Avoda Zara, and it will get others confiouse, just as you are!
OUR God, Elohei Yisroel, said exactly the opposite of what you claim! It is, "near to us", and, "within our hearts"!! Seems to me, you are just borrowing Christian ideas, and attempting to kosherize them...
Thank you Rabbi. What strange ideas did you find in the Magid of Mezeritch מגיד דבריו ליעקב ?
So curious. Sounds worth looking up.
Chabad Christian like??
No Chabadnik has ever asked me if I wanted to accept the Rebbe as my personal savior. To put on tefillin, yes, but never if I wanted to be saved, and then telling me I’m going to hell if I refuse. This video is a good presentation, but a very broad generalization at best. I’recently have began to read the Tanya. It has some great teaching. But I could never be a full fledged Black Hatter.
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@@TheBalterok😂 Ha! Thanks.
those Borcelions are way cheaper that the cowboy jobs and they do last, even without a plastic bag over it in the rain🤣@@eliyahulakes7786
As a former Christian journeying into Judaism I have a real difficult time distinguishing between Chabad and Christianity... just my sincere honest sincere opinion.
This
One is Global Evangelism
Other is NOT
Chabad is not global Evangelism, They Do Not Condemn the other Jewish groups whereas Christianity and Islam are Global Evangelists who condemn Everyone else that is not of Their Twisted Mindset .
As a person who came out of a state of between Avoda Zara and Judaism (similar to the story of the people and the Prophet Eliyahu on Har Carmel) in which a simple letter from the Lubavitcher Rebbe was the impetus for my release from this state, i have much respect for the Rebbe. What his Chassidim and Shluchim do is not necessarily a reflection on the good he did.
What an interesting video. Thank you! Supporting from the Netherlands 😊
I agree with everything. Reading everything available about Gaon even how he called Chasidim
The Gaon did not investigate properly, as required by halacha.
This short dissertation seems to be a screed against chassidism in general. In his closing the Rabbi states that most chassidic sects have little knowledge of the principles of chassidut and are merely held together by the external forces of community. The exception is chabad who adhere to the 'radical' theology of chassidut. He appears to rank the legitimacy of chssidic groups according to their adherence to chassidic theology, and those who have strayed the furthest rank highest in his eyes. In this perverse way he has affirmed that chabad does indeed best represent the chassidic movement which he vehemently opposes. This hearkens back to the old dispute of 200 years ago which was largely resolved in the days of rabbi Chaim of Volozhin. Of course one can criticize elements of chassidut and those followers who may take things too far, however it seems the rabbi's issue with chassidut is deeper than mere philosophical difference.
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I totally agree either way it’s a idolitry
Ridiculous! It is not idolatry, it is VERY Jewish.
If the words “second coming” populate the Lubavitcher’s mind, this is problematic. The Rebbe was clearly not the messiah.
The approach to avoda Zara goes way beyond Chabad and has afflicted almost all of Orthodoxy with destructive ideas like Daas Torah, the cult of the gedolim as well as yeridas HaDoros and the emphasis on yichus as well as centralised rabbinates and the orgies of chumras everywhere.
You have it wrong. Without Chazal and without Rabbonim you end up with Christianity. Of course, you can't serve the Rebbe, pray to the Rebbe, say that the Rebbe controls the world, etc. That makes it idolatry. However, real Rabbonim pasken halacha.
No you have it wrong.
The Samaritans Karaites and Heymanot haven’t got Chazal and Rabbonim but they most certainly are NOT Christians. And they’re going just fine.
אמר רב יהודה אמר רב בשעה שעלה משה למרום מצאו להקב"ה שיושב וקושר כתרים לאותיות אמר לפניו רבש"ע מי מעכב על ידך אמר לו אדם אחד יש שעתיד להיות בסוף כמה דורות ועקיבא בן יוסף שמו שעתיד לדרוש על כל קוץ וקוץ תילין תילין של הלכות
§ Rav Yehuda says that Rav says: When Moses ascended on High, he found the Holy One, Blessed be He, sitting and tying crowns on the letters of the Torah. Moses said before God: Master of the Universe, who is preventing You from giving the Torah without these additions? God said to him: There is a man who is destined to be born after several generations, and Akiva ben Yosef is his name; he is destined to derive from each and every thorn of these crowns mounds upon mounds of halakhot. It is for his sake that the crowns must be added to the letters of the Torah.
www.sefaria.org/Menachot.29b.3
אמר לפניו רבש"ע הראהו לי אמר לו חזור לאחורך הלך וישב בסוף שמונה שורות ולא היה יודע מה הן אומרים תשש כחו כיון שהגיע לדבר אחד אמרו לו תלמידיו רבי מנין לך אמר להן הלכה למשה מסיני נתיישבה דעתו
Moses said before God: Master of the Universe, show him to me. God said to him: Return behind you. Moses went and sat at the end of the eighth row in Rabbi Akiva’s study hall and did not understand what they were saying. Moses’ strength waned, as he thought his Torah knowledge was deficient. When Rabbi Akiva arrived at the discussion of one matter, his students said to him: My teacher, from where do you derive this? Rabbi Akiva said to them: It is a halakha transmitted to Moses from Sinai. When Moses heard this, his mind was put at ease, as this too was part of the Torah that he was to receive.
www.sefaria.org/Menachot.29b.4
חזר ובא לפני הקב"ה אמר לפניו רבונו של עולם יש לך אדם כזה ואתה נותן תורה ע"י אמר לו שתוק כך עלה במחשבה לפני אמר לפניו רבונו של עולם הראיתני תורתו הראני שכרו אמר לו חזור [לאחורך] חזר לאחוריו ראה ששוקלין בשרו במקולין אמר לפניו רבש"ע זו תורה וזו שכרה א"ל שתוק כך עלה במחשבה לפני
Moses returned and came before the Holy One, Blessed be He, and said before Him: Master of the Universe, You have a man as great as this and yet You still choose to give the Torah through me. Why? God said to him: Be silent; this intention arose before Me. Moses said before God: Master of the Universe, You have shown me Rabbi Akiva’s Torah, now show me his reward. God said to him: Return to where you were. Moses went back and saw that they were weighing Rabbi Akiva’s flesh in a butcher shop [bemakkulin], as Rabbi Akiva was tortured to death by the Romans. Moses said before Him: Master of the Universe, this is Torah and this is its reward? God said to him: Be silent; this intention arose before Me.
www.sefaria.org/Menachot.29b.5
can you expound on your ideas.....i also have a lot of doubts on orthodox judaism, i'm a baal teshuva, it's not as sincere to mitzvot as the lifestyle portrays......i don't understand what spirituality or connection to G-d is behind incessant davening and Torah study based on poskim that are considered the norm for the application of mitzvot for the average observant.
@@FrumSepharadi After a lot of exploration and discovery the only thing that makes sense to me is that the Five Books of Moses are the word of God. But only the Five Books of Moses, and theyre meant to be taken literally as long as you understand the language they're written in. The books of the Prophets and Writings are important too, but not everything in them is meant to be taken literally. Some things are metaphortical and poetic but they pint us back to and help us understand the Torah. But the Torah is literal truth. As for works like the Talmud, Halachic works, commentaries, etc their power is persuasive. Its good to study them and whatever we're convinced by them is the proper way to keep the Torah is what we should keep. If that means a diversity of different ways of keeping it then so be it.
As a Christian there messianic beliefs do seem kinda Christian like
“…their messianic beliefs seem Christian like” ??? Who do you think came up with the teaching of a coming Mashiach in the first place? The Messianic concept originated in Judaism long before Christianity even existed.
@eliyahulakes7786 yeah I know I don't dispute this I just see similarities that's all although the chabadniks aren't as far down the messianic trail as Christians if they are not careful it could turn into rebbe worship and not worship of the King of heaven g-d. To be fair to chabadniks they bring the lost jews back to the fold and are somewhat friendly with the outside world. But yeah brother your right Christianity at its core is messianic straight from judaisim
In every section of Klal Yisroel there is a hierarchy of hamoin am and rabonim . In the Hasidic world the hamoin am are by and large shomrei mitzvos . In other sections of klal yisroel , the hamoin am are not shomrei mizvos to the same degree.
So in that respect , the Hasidim are vindicated .
Seriously, which approach directly to Hashem would you recommend for the gentile European world? The noahides in my impression are basically former christians mostly in ahistorical surroundings, forming and dissolving within generations...
Noahide covenant applies to all man kind. I agree it hasnt really caught on. There is no infrastructure or institutions really. No traditions or shared history. Mostly its either a transition period for people converting or for older folk or former Christians it is a refuge from their past ways
Yes it’s continuing . I checked
I have been recently following this podcast for mostly political content but ths shiur is dismaying - to brandish chabad as akin to christiantity is simply false - the proof is in the fact that chabad adherents are observing torah and mitzvot and are bringing people closer to hashem - vayameinu bahashem uvemoshe avdo is as old as the torah - yes there are extreme elements but this in no way justfies the wholesale brandishing of this group.
It depends on the Chabad house. Some are definitely practicing idolatry with regards to the Rebbe.
I appreciate your point in referencing the verse where the Israelites trusted in God and in His servant Moses. However, I believe it's important to highlight two differences between that verse and the situation at Chabad: 1) God is mentioned first in that verse, and 2) it speaks of a time when Moses was still alive.
They hold by the Tanya, which dismays the existence of non-jews. Many of our nevim were non-jews. All peoples were created Tselem Elohim according to Torath Moshe...
Habad doesn't even sleep in a sukkah when weather is nice.
This just recently I started to study Chofetz Chaim and I must say there is a problem here and I agree with you.
They make requests of their dead rebbe, how is that not idolatry?
I think even within Chabad you have variation. I don't think the ones in a place like Missouri have as strong of the problematic messianic beliefs as the lubavitch hasidim in New York.
This Rabbi on this Podcast is playing with Fire!🔥 What does it say about you & your Character when you Disparage Tzaddikim?! You mess with Hashems Chosen ones you will reap the consequences of this Shturum!!!
Yahadut has evolved into "Yiddishkeit" which in itself evolved into the new religion of ''çhumroiss" I doubt an Israelite from the time of King David/Solomon would recognise much. Chabad simply has lost its way, leaderless and rudderless, the rebbi should have seen this well ahead, knowing he has no yoresh. He should have called out to all his followers to make aliyah, as well as himself.
you don't know enough.
I like how each statement as a whole may have validity on its own, however there is no logical progression in the whole
Breslev has very similar issues
It would be more interesting if the Rabbi had a good grasp of his own theory enough to point at the interesting period of Frankism/Misnagdism/Hasidism and offer a comprehensive working model for how to understand Hasidism.
This video mostly just shows that the Rav is more interested in click baits and pointing fingers. I wonder where he feels that the Zionist religious movement which has replaced their primary loyalty which is to God with loyalty to the Medinat Israel (they call it the “beginning of the sprouting of the redemption”.
Anyways, tis the state of quarreling minds trying to grasp onto novelty but its really just a pointless spiteful output
Please clarify if those chabadniks who do fall into this category, can they be joined in a minyan, can their food be eaten and wine drunk?
Just as antisemitism or leftism is a terrible negative phenomenon, so are the incredible words & beliefs that have been spewed against Chabad. Unfortunately Unfortunately
The 99% of Jews that don't subscribe to this cult do not have to submit to their idiocy in the name of unity.
This is a bit deranged after chatting with a few of the supporters of this in the comments I’m realizing that this is a great example of motivated reasoning. If you ever want to talk to a real Chabad rov about this topic and not to a straw man caricature feel free to reach out. Again why would you be divisive in the Jewish world at a time where we clearly need unity. Anyone who isn’t blinded by their own personal grandiosity can see that Chabad Chassidus consistently spread traditional Judaism and often represent a moral ideal that while no one can fully live up to, is worth striving dor
Very sad…..this fellow edited this clip from a longer discussion, obviously because of its inflammatory content, posts it with an incendiary title, and slanders an entire congregation of Jews, their leader, all their leaders for seven generations, the founder of the group who wrote a Shulchan Aruch accepted far and wide, and then ends off besmirching the Maggid of Mezritch…..all to garner a few extra clicks and views?!?!? Nebach
The Baal Shem Tov and the Maggid of Mezeritch fulfilled their role, the 7 Chabad Rebbes fulfilled their role. Now the unactivated living in the flesh Moshiach and His Donkey are awaiting for the Chabad community to unite with one mission that only they can do that will activate the Redemption. A mission that will bring about the marriage to the Bride the Sister in the Garden. A mission that George Washington Abraham Lincoln and Donald Trump could not achieve. In the Garden, in Turtle Island where the other Holocaust Peoples dwell who never proselytized to the Torah Peoples and whom Hitler himself relished in their Holocaust brought by those who attempted to crucify Torah.
Sure like Satmar didn’t treat their Rebbes like G-ds
You need to study the laws of loshen hara again.
You need to study the laws of tochacha again
With all due respect Rabbi this is simply not true! The Rebbe was just that a Rebbe, and anyone who proposes otherwise is looked at within chabad circles as at least extremist. Lehavdil to compare to Xianity. As a Rabbi yourself you may have students who revere you but that does not change your status. The Rebbe was the seventh in a chassidic dynasty and if anything he wanted NOT to be the Rebbe. I think you are misrepresenting the majority by using the few as the example. What chabad is doing globally speaks for itself and for the leader of the movement, not the lunatics who tried to dig under 770. They do not represent the movement. Not at all. Shavua Tov.
Why then are there always these large pictorial images of these rabbis in all Chabes homes?
@@Shoshana-xh6hc yes. He is their inspiration. So that makes it like Xianity? That’s a pretty long stretch.
@@Shoshana-xh6hcThat wasn’t his instruction. He can’t change what others did after his passing.
I’ve met the Chabad rabbi in Malmö and didn’t see a single picture of the rebbe in his study.
However: there’s also a Chabad rabbi in Frankfurt who keeps a signed dollar he got from the rebbe. And he kissed it on camera. The latter is an example of borderline idolatry. But the former wasn’t like that at all.
Most Judaism is idolatry to begin with. They follow Rabbinical teachings and not the word of Elohim!
Jesus was just Jesus yet look what his talmidim did to him 🤷🏾
Awful to generalize like this. I know Chabad very very well and you are simply wrong. Perhaps the Lubavitch movement in Israel is different. I don't know, but in Chutz L'aretz, only a small minority are truly Meshichist, as far as I can tell. We need unity now, not awful bad mouthing each other.
Correctly said. Not only this man is ignorant about the subject, but like you said he's bad mouthing other Jews when that is completely forbidden, notwithstanding the fact that we need to have unity among us in these dangerous times. Shame on him
@@u.y.3643 Badmouthing jews who worship idols is mandatory, not forbidden.
@@titmus312first learn, research and then talk with your brain instead of your foot. Hasidim are idol worshippers? Are you nuts?
How do you support your accusations of idolatory and ignorance?
Maybe he was afraid of the Bal Hatanya because he knew more than him and he didn’t want to humble himself like you are jealous of Lubavitcher
The kindergarten 'logic' of chabad...
Remind me why the second Beis Hamikdash was destroyed? What a shame, and against the greatest tzadikim, and after Oct 7th, when we need more unity. You should have your tefillin checked. You are wearing Tefillin against your heart and head, however they don’t seem to be permeating them.
It's really sad what had become of ChaBaD because there are so many good and important teachings/works from the 1st two ChaBaD rebbeim but that get overlooked or ignored because problematic practices which developed over the years.
Megalomaniacal zakon mamre
You are wrong:
One is Globally Evangelising, the other not
So far as "avoda zara" Direct your comments to everyone who go to meron lighting fires 🔥 and such nonsense
Why in the 21st century would Rabbi Tzemach Cunin state that the Rebbe is in control of the world?
Why can't they both be avoda zara?
Chabad doesn't participate in Lag Ba'Omer?
@@titmus312
Indeed anyone can!
I read in a book, a certain rabbi (I think Dunner long time ago) went to India, something to do with a wig & Indian traditions etc, and declared they commit "avoda zara", clearly ignorant of their philosophy, although they are monotheistic (with plenty intermediaries)
Point being, just cause a person (with whatever title) said so, it doesn't necessarily make it so
@@piptar1996 Are you denying that they ask their dead rebbe for blessings?
Regarding to Christianity and others lines of similar worship/conception, the matter of the Son (the spiritual Master) and the Father (God), is much more dynamic that what your gross, stagnant and impersonal mind tries to fathom. By the grace of the Father (God) one obtains the Son,and viceversa. The son is not God in terms of omnipotence, omniscience, etc, but, in terms of the message! Because, only an arrogant fool (psil) thinks he can listen directly from God. "Kdoshim tihiyu ki kadosh ani" (lv, 19, 2): do you have such purity? This is way, its referred to Him (the Son) as the Word (logos). Just as when metal is expose long enough to fiere it acts as fiere, similarly, the Son (the Spiritual Master, he who cams in disciplic succestion in divine line), is one with God... but different, simultaneously! Is like the concept of Mac Luhan: "the media is the message"! The bloodline (ius sanguini), which is but a pagan idea (base on the concept of Aristocracy), is nothing but Avoda Zara, and it will get others confiouse, just as you are!
OUR God, Elohei Yisroel, said exactly the opposite of what you claim!
It is, "near to us", and, "within our hearts"!!
Seems to me, you are just borrowing Christian ideas, and attempting to kosherize them...
Shabetai Tzvi 2.0
primitive. doesn't reflect reality.