@@blackquill7767 No, that's fair, though I was almost about to complain about that. Though if you want the canon match, you could do this (it's just a list of demons that join you via in-game events like side-quests, including DLC, and the way that you would narrow these down for canon reasons is to maximize the list of Talisman Magatsuhi Skills, i.e. having only one of each race. You could think of them as equivalents of demons on Demi-fiend's stock via ascending or descending fusion level): Canon of Creation (what was in the original game, mostly): - Leanan Sidhe (Femme) or Apsaras (Yoma) - Lilim (Night) or Principality (Divine) - Black Frost (Night) or Dionysus (Fury) - Futsunushi (Wargod) or Adramelech (Fallen) - Amanozako (Genma) vs. Pixie - Fionn mac Cumhaill (Genma) vs. Thor - Michael (Herald) or Belial (Tyrant) - Demeter (Megami) - Cleopatra (Femme) - Mephisto (Tyrant) - Artemis (Megami) Canon of Vengeance (what was added in Vengeance + Vengeance-exclusive in-game demons): - Nahobeeho (Fairy) - Anansi (Genma) or Onyankopon (Enigma) - Kresnik (Genma) or Kudlak (Haunt) - Masakado (Wargod) [Not actually sure where to put him, actually, if he's only accessible in CoC.] - Dagda (Deity) - Konohana Sakuya (Kunitsu) These are also Canon of Vengeance, but since these are just required to be in stock for certain quests, it could still be thought of as in-game event demons, just demons required for in-game events. - Zhu Tun She (Drake) - Xiezhai (Avatar) - Okuninushi (Kunitsu) - Idun (Megami) - Loki (Tyrant) - Yoshitsune (Wargod) [For Masakado, again, I'm not exactly sure where this goes.] - Zeus (Deity)
I never thought in seeing a SMT battle displayed in this way, Peak(bre i love the attention to detail to change the battle track afer mediarah as it marks the start of the second half of the boss)
Yessss, I wanted to mess with editing in different music and I had the idea of 'When he uses mediarahan that's when he's taking the fight seriously' Glad you enjoyed it!
@blackquill7767 thank you, also a suggestion, I think it would be way fitting if you used the Da'at remix by Manson White(expecially taking the fact that fierce of battle uses parts of the book of revelation while the da'at remix uses parts of the Genesis)
A canon team for Naho would probably be something like Amanozako Fion Mac Cumhail Nahobeeho Idun It'd be cool if they give him a boss in SMT6 and he has some of the boss demons like Nuwa or Abdiel, since Demi-fiend has Thor and Giri who were prominent bosses in nocturne. I really hope we see more SMT Protag bosses
@@blackquill7767 yea that tradition needs to continue! Also that team is perfect. It's funny how Amanozako grew on me. I actually hated it that I couldn't use her as a navigator late game lol
@@blackquill7767 Given Demi-Fiend didn’t appear in Mainline until 5 (unless you count Digital Devil Saga) the pattern would be for Nahobino to pop up in a side game and *then* appear in SMT7
@@blackquill7767Love how Idun is there. Could replace Girimehkala with Arahabaki as he was relevant in a quest and they both reflect. Scary thought, but you recruit Madakado in the same quest line
Glad you liked the idea! Personally my favourite idea was how I managed to get the original da'at combat theme to transition into the vengeance version
Props to the editing here. It makes the battle look a lot more scenic. Making good use of Vengeance's unique tools also styles it as a battle of the old vs. the new. Personally I wonder what the Nahobino's team might look like if he ends up as a boss in another game.
Immolating Breath just looks so sick, the Sons of Typhon coming together to bring about a fiery purging that would make the Salamanders looks like amateurs.
You're welcome!! I'm glad you enjoyed it I'm a sucker for thematics and Amanozako is def what I consider to be Naho's Pixie. The only other contender would be Aogami himself but that's not possible LOL. I read somewhere that he actually has battle animations that people datamined a long time ago. I wonder if in some earlier version of the game Aogami would've been playable
Lucifer just eating popcorn watching his two kids have a sparring match: “Proud of you both!” Jokes aside, this is very well made. There needs to be more almost scripted like fights whenever there’s an important boss fight or two protagonists duking it out against eachother. Cheers mate.
It really was, after failing a few times trying to use protag as a main damage dealer with deadly fury + impaler's - I decided to just go all in on Gae Bolg and have MC do support instead. It's easily one of the best unique attack skills in the game fr. Guaranteed crit, pierce, affected by pleromas AND strength based? Someone at Atlus loves Cu Chulainn.
@@blackquill7767 wait I never realized its a guaranteed critical. Critical Zealot, both plemoras, no need for impalers since it pierces, and you could gladi it using a support demon. fucking hell you're right, its SO good
@@thecursed_1lordofcats738 It's especially broken on Cu because not only does Gae Bolg always crit, so crit zealot has no downside - he also has a built in version of Crit zealot as a passive that stacks. (His innate ability). According to a site that has stats for all skills he has an innate 1.25x multiplier on his crit damage.
Thank you!! Video editing has been something I've dabbled with on and off for a while, it's nice to know people are really liking what I came up with. It's insanely encouraging
One of my favourite moments of the video ngl. Glad you liked it! Getting the music to sync up with the Thor/Odin combo attack was also something that felt extremely satisfying
I had this exact same idea on the back of my mind since the og release but didn't like the gameplay due to lvl scaling and just forgot about it. I'm glad you had the same idea bc it came out wonderfully done. The editing (Ik everybody already said but still!), the optimal usage of severe aoe elemental omagatoki skills, the sheer luck of avoiding ailments and chaotic will for the most part... Yes, amazingly done man. You really deserve that victory.
Many others have already mentioned your awesome editing, so I want to applaud your dedication and game skills instead. I relied on so many special demons and broken skills and even that took me so much time both in fight and preparation. Yet here you are, managing such a difficult fight in the coolest way possible. You even have all the other demons ready in your stock just in case. I can't even imagine how long that preparation took. Amazing work, truly!
Thank you so much for the kind words!!! I spent a lil while prepping for this for sure and getting a good rhythem for winning took some time but it was all worth it in the end! Glad you enjoyed it! :D
Damn, I was trying to figure out how to properly do this in the original Switch version but I never figured out a build for each demon I liked. Hell yeah, well done!!!
The editing captures the feeling when you're really into a fight in a turn based game. Makes me want an actual SMT anime so we can get a proper representation of it. Great work bro
You know... Seeing Amanozako as the alternative to Demi-Fiend's pixie has me wondering what others would make sense as alternatives (that is, others that are actually in the game. Sorry, Tam Lin.) So, I devised a small list of sorts... Something for you flavour-lovers out there. Would they be viable? Probably not. Do I care? No. :) ANYWAYS: Chu Chullain -> Fionn Mac Cumhaill Girimehkala -> Ganesha Pixie -> Amanozako Cerberus -> Orthrus Thor -> Surt Jack Frost -> Pyro Jack Parvati -> Kali? (They're said to be related in some way, soooo)
The best part about SMT5 is any demon can be viable, as stat incenses and skill sets are farmable. Not to mention you can downfuse strong demons paired with certain miracles to get them higher stats than they would normally have at level 99 (i'm planning on doing this for any future ideas I have) Also about the canon team thing, your ideas are pretty good! For me, it'd probably go something like this: Cu = Fionn (obvious one) Giri = Probably something like Gogamagog or Oyamatsumi Pixie = Amanozako (another obvious one) Cerb = Hayataro Thor = Artemis Jack Frost = Nahobeeho Parvati = Nuwa, Cleopatra or Kushinada-Hime I think they'd probably lean into the Susano-o aspect of Nahobino/Aogami and give his team some important demons from that aspect
Great video idea, fantastic edition and very fun to watch! Im on my firdt smt 5 run and im trying for semifiend and satan right now so this does give me motivation
I love the demon haunt bench in the thumbnail, it looks like they're deciding who gets to use it lmao. Edit: Also, using charge before a Periapt Skill was genius. Edit 2: That ending LMAOOO, I love how Cu Chulainn closed his eyes, as if passing the torch. Thanks for such an amazing video
Ngl, I was half expecting Nahobino protag to cast Gaia Rage or Moonlight Frost as a way of punishing Demi-Fiend for failing to kill off one of his allies after 6 actions 💀
Funnily enough in some of my first attempts at this I wanted to use gaea rage and chaotic will (that's why if you look my naho has +9 in ailments lol) but it wasn't consistent enough for me, Gaea rage is still 100+ MP at +9 and it wasn't doing enough damage to be worth it.
It 100% is a lot fairer, both this and the Satan boss fight are. What makes DDS Demi-fiend RNG reliant is the 'intended' way you're meant to avoid gaea rage which is when pixie/parvati casts dormina, you're supposed to use a skill that makes you avoid all damage while asleep but it has a good chance to not even hit
Now that I think about it gae bolg is pretty insane for the demi fiend fight. With crit zealot it gains a base power of 300, 35 pts higher than zanbarion and it’s more accurate and it pierces and he also he has a natural resist phys so you only have to invest one slot for resistances this demon is insane for demi fiend holy shit, it’s like having a Zeus for force element
Still holding out hope for builds from the Masakado video, but god DAMN is this a sick concept. Aside from Amanozako would you say there's any other demons that scream "Nahobino" to you?
Thanks for your comment! I'll post the builds on your other comment shortly As for your question imo Fionn, Idun and Nahobeeho are must haves. I also think he should have some of the prominent bosses on his team like Abdiel, Nuwa or maybe some of the lesser bosses like Surt, Ishtar. It'd also be kinda funny for him to have Decarabia as he's really funny in this game and is everyone's favourite gem hunter
I was just thinking about how cool these fights would look with edits to cut out the menus, this is amazing. I wonder what the one-turn fights look like
@@MrOdaddy2011 You need to find and talk to a Setanta demon NPC - he'll give you the item you need for it. In canon of creation you can find him in Chiyoda, in the area past where Surt was In canon of vengeance you can find him in Shinjuku, I think he's near a leyline fount somewhere. Just look for speech icons on the map and you'll find him eventually
I know technically this battle is supposed to mirror the squad of demons Demi Fiend has but it would’ve been funnier if there was a Black Frost on his team. I mean I can just imagine if the devs added some secret interaction between the Black Frost from Smt 3 Nocturne (you can find him in a side quest of sort) and Demi Fiend seeing some other Black Frost replace him lol.
I thinl these would be the perfect counters: Pixie - Amanozako. Cu chulainn - Fionn Mc Cumhall. Grimekala - Lahmu/Arioch/Abdiel dark. Thor - Odin/Zeus/Khonsu/Artemisa Cerberus - Hydra. Jack Frost - Mermaid/Anahita or now Nahobeeho. Parvati - Demeter/Danu or now Sakuya.
That was really good! But I have one question: Why didn't you just switch Amanozako out and back in when you got debuffed to reverse it for free? (Is it simply because she won't have the buff that way?)
I actually did think about that a few times but in my head I'm thinking it's quicker to just remove it with a dekunda stone. In one of my attempts I did do that though and it worked good! Also thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it
I know chuchulain is there because its a mirror match and demi fiend also has chuchulainn, but i think it would be more accurate (way harder to do too) to have chuchulain be replaced with fionn mac cumhail because he's technically someone in celtic lore the successor of chuchulainn in a way, but i know that makes this NOT a true mirror match if you replace too many demons, anyways i wonder who nahobino's true final team is? Based on game quest ect,
Yeah I felt I was already stretching the idea a bit by replacing Pixie with Amanozako but I think your idea would've been good too! His final team would def include a lot of fan favourites from V: Idun, Artemis, Fionn, Nuwa, maybe some classics like Odin or Decarabia.
God this video is so fucking cool, as much as I like the cheese strats bc of how funny they are, this is gotta be the most stylish way of fighting him. I wonder how many attempts this took. Also as said by many others, the editing is fucking superb. Like I wonder what other turn based rpgs would look like in this editing style.
Thank you so much! I love the cheese strat vids since they demonstrate how amazing (and broken) mixing and matching demons with innate skills are. It's just part of the fun but I personally opt not to use them since I enjoy the back and forth with bosses and slowly widdling them down This took me quite a few attempts, one of which I choked super hard and lost when he had a sliver of hp left and it was only protag and amanozako left on the field. Not my finest moment. The kind words have been really encouraging so once again thank you!!
That's a fair point, I had entirely planned to cycle through my team if anybody had went down (And in previous attempts they did). I did spend most of the fight with the same team, only really cycling between Giri and Cerb I'll consider this if I ever do another similar video to this one but a lot of it just comes down to how the fight plays out when I'm recording it; I thought this one had some cool moments and accomplished what I wanted it to which was my goal at the end of the day. The only other thing worth mentioning is his demons have a lot more health than mine and If I'd matched his demons (E.g I bring out Jack Frost when he does) I'd be at a disadvantage because I wouldn't be able to deal with their weaknesses effectively. It's still possible though and ultimately it's a fair criticism no matter what. I hope you enjoyed the video regardless of that though!
Not looking forward to when they make Nahobino a future fight in the series. If they have amanozako able to reverse debuffs like in Vengeance especially. Should be really fun to seen Fionn buffed though since Mac En Luin sucks as it doesn't guaranty pierce or crits and i would imagine Bino's team using their signature moves when they have that.
@@blackquill7767 Facts. His innate doesn't even synergize with his kit either. I still made him a figment spammer cause figment slash can do wonders for any demon with physical skill proficiency.
@@dave9515 If you want prob the best figment slash spammer in the game, if you make a party with Cu and put Scathach in the party - her figment slash literally can never miss because of her innate. Let me say that is BUSTED. I beat both Demi-fiend and Satan using these two as main damage dealers.
@@blackquill7767 Holy cow that is busted. I never really thought about that. Currently grinding for teambuilding for the sim and i wanna try that now. Chu chullain can gae bolg and debilitate, Scathach just spams figment slash, Sakuya or Tao heals/Lustercandy, and Bino just deals damage with stuff like murakumo or gaea rage.
@@dave9515 Give Scathach impaler's and nothing will stand in her way, let the crits rain. Another perk of using those two is you get access to Raging Whirlwind which is what I used a lot in the superboss fights.
@blackquill7767 for some reason instead of using null phys using resist physical meant he would _only_ go for javelin rain, never once will he use gaia rage. This was effectively the biggest loophole of the demi fiend
the demi fiend in my battle crit 80% of the time with his frei lol, dealing about 800hp on every single of my demons lmao, I kat believe he almost hardly crit in here lol
From what I've observed, crits seem to be heavily affected by level/luck - since all my demons are 99 and have decent luck I think that played a big role in why his freikugel wasn't critting as often. I did also bump up their vitality using incenses a tad, I wanted each demon to have at least 100 vitality, I remember when I was experimenting my Jack Frost who had like 80/85 vitality went down extremely quickly
It's usually a fighting game term that means when two opponents fight using the exact same character. In this context - I'm only using demons that Demi-fiend uses with the exception of Amanozako.
because that's the mechanic for Demi-Fiend Superboss fight here, if you ignore his demons, he will cast Gaea Rage, skill that have a lot of Damage & pierced, so you must kill at least 1 of his demons every 6 turns, he has 7 demons in his stock & every time you kill 1 of his demons he will summon his next demons from that pool
How can you call this a mirror match when your not even using pixie instead of amanozako it literally throws the mirror match idea out of the window when you don't even use the same demons as your opponent
Yeah I mean it's a fair criticism but the reason I used Amanozako instead of Pixie is because she essentially takes that roll thematic wise which I thought was a lot more interesting It is bending the idea of a mirror match, but only slightly. I get why you might not be a fan of the idea, that's totally fine.
Not effective bild, during fight he casted chaotic will no less then 5 times, 1 cast got you, if something goes wrong -you could be already dead. Still, it was good work, you deserve like for sure🤌
Well to be honest effectiveness was never the name of the game with this. I was more so interested in finding out if I could pull this off and with a bit of luck in my favour I managed to do so, without a single demon dying as well If I'd have skipped mediarahan the fight would've been over much quicker and would've (imo) been more boring to watch so I always try to power through the mediarahan since I like the extra challenge. Thank you for your comment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
I like how you have Amanozako as the faithful companion to Demi Fiend's Pixie.
Hell yeah that was the idea
I know it's kind of bending the idea of a mirror match but I had to do it for how thematic it was
@@blackquill7767 No, that's fair, though I was almost about to complain about that.
Though if you want the canon match, you could do this (it's just a list of demons that join you via in-game events like side-quests, including DLC, and the way that you would narrow these down for canon reasons is to maximize the list of Talisman Magatsuhi Skills, i.e. having only one of each race. You could think of them as equivalents of demons on Demi-fiend's stock via ascending or descending fusion level):
Canon of Creation (what was in the original game, mostly):
- Leanan Sidhe (Femme) or Apsaras (Yoma)
- Lilim (Night) or Principality (Divine)
- Black Frost (Night) or Dionysus (Fury)
- Futsunushi (Wargod) or Adramelech (Fallen)
- Amanozako (Genma) vs. Pixie
- Fionn mac Cumhaill (Genma) vs. Thor
- Michael (Herald) or Belial (Tyrant)
- Demeter (Megami)
- Cleopatra (Femme)
- Mephisto (Tyrant)
- Artemis (Megami)
Canon of Vengeance (what was added in Vengeance + Vengeance-exclusive in-game demons):
- Nahobeeho (Fairy)
- Anansi (Genma) or Onyankopon (Enigma)
- Kresnik (Genma) or Kudlak (Haunt)
- Masakado (Wargod) [Not actually sure where to put him, actually, if he's only accessible in CoC.]
- Dagda (Deity)
- Konohana Sakuya (Kunitsu)
These are also Canon of Vengeance, but since these are just required to be in stock for certain quests, it could still be thought of as in-game event demons, just demons required for in-game events.
- Zhu Tun She (Drake)
- Xiezhai (Avatar)
- Okuninushi (Kunitsu)
- Idun (Megami)
- Loki (Tyrant)
- Yoshitsune (Wargod) [For Masakado, again, I'm not exactly sure where this goes.]
- Zeus (Deity)
This was my favorite detail, tbh
@@jaxet.rasaid I think Demeter deserves a spot cause of her questline
@@blastmole299 True, my bad. List has been updated.
i cant even begin to describe just how fucking cool your editing makes this fight look, holy KINO
Yoo thank you so much, I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Yes its absolutely amazing :D
@@elukajiro3233 Thank you so much!!
I never thought in seeing a SMT battle displayed in this way, Peak(bre i love the attention to detail to change the battle track afer mediarah as it marks the start of the second half of the boss)
Yessss, I wanted to mess with editing in different music and I had the idea of 'When he uses mediarahan that's when he's taking the fight seriously'
Glad you enjoyed it!
@blackquill7767 thank you, also a suggestion, I think it would be way fitting if you used the Da'at remix by Manson White(expecially taking the fact that fierce of battle uses parts of the book of revelation while the da'at remix uses parts of the Genesis)
@@lyuanfranco7842 I actually was aware of his remix and I thought about using it but I didn't want to use it without asking for permission first.
Everytime Gae Bolg crits, Lucifers backshots Demi Fiend
he still has trauma from the basic attack spam in the Nocturne Lucifer fight
Looks at Gae Bolg description: oh no
@@blastmole299 Lucifer: It's time for *HOMOSEX* Demi Fiend
What?
@@littlebabyman8494 It's a guaranteed crit so...
The amount of cut out edits you did for this must've pissed you off
It was a lot, but after a while I figured out a system for it that made it slightly easier
It took a while though LOL
This was so cool. In my head I'd imagine Fion Mac Cumhail would also be the Nahobino's Cu Chulainn
A canon team for Naho would probably be something like
Amanozako
Fion Mac Cumhail
Nahobeeho
Idun
It'd be cool if they give him a boss in SMT6 and he has some of the boss demons like Nuwa or Abdiel, since Demi-fiend has Thor and Giri who were prominent bosses in nocturne. I really hope we see more SMT Protag bosses
@@blackquill7767 yea that tradition needs to continue! Also that team is perfect. It's funny how Amanozako grew on me. I actually hated it that I couldn't use her as a navigator late game lol
@@blackquill7767 Given Demi-Fiend didn’t appear in Mainline until 5 (unless you count Digital Devil Saga) the pattern would be for Nahobino to pop up in a side game and *then* appear in SMT7
@@AzureGhidorahsmt4A
@@blackquill7767Love how Idun is there. Could replace Girimehkala with Arahabaki as he was relevant in a quest and they both reflect. Scary thought, but you recruit Madakado in the same quest line
I just love how Smtv’s main battle theme starts to play when the battle fully swings in your favor at the end. Just chefs kiss 👨🍳💋
Glad you liked the idea!
Personally my favourite idea was how I managed to get the original da'at combat theme to transition into the vengeance version
Props to the editing here. It makes the battle look a lot more scenic. Making good use of Vengeance's unique tools also styles it as a battle of the old vs. the new.
Personally I wonder what the Nahobino's team might look like if he ends up as a boss in another game.
His team will probably be
Amanozako
Idun
Fionn
Khonsu
Nahobehoo
I don't know what it is with press turn combat that makes me watch hour long videos. I think I'm addicted to SMT crack
Just hook these games to my veins at this point
I can feel the glowing press turns coursing through my veins
This is why Metaphor Re:Fantazio using press turn is peak
I love how the music stop when Demifiend cast Chaotic Will 😊
Nice video 👍
It's an accurate representation of how being hit with Chaotic Will actually feels 😬
@@blackquill7767 imagine if the game actually did that. I know my heart would sink if it did, more than it already does.
Immolating Breath just looks so sick, the Sons of Typhon coming together to bring about a fiery purging that would make the Salamanders looks like amateurs.
It was well worth having to give up 3 extra demon slots for 'em.
@@blackquill7767When I get this game (waiting for a sale), Im gonna max Divine Garrison ASAP just so I can use these lol
The screenshot I took of it goes so hard
Thank you for this a lot, one of my favorite SMT V videos to date. I adore the detail of Amanozako being Nahobino's companion.
You're welcome!! I'm glad you enjoyed it
I'm a sucker for thematics and Amanozako is def what I consider to be Naho's Pixie. The only other contender would be Aogami himself but that's not possible LOL. I read somewhere that he actually has battle animations that people datamined a long time ago. I wonder if in some earlier version of the game Aogami would've been playable
Lucifer just eating popcorn watching his two kids have a sparring match: “Proud of you both!”
Jokes aside, this is very well made. There needs to be more almost scripted like fights whenever there’s an important boss fight or two protagonists duking it out against eachother. Cheers mate.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!!
Without a doubt, the best Demi-Fiend video ever, nothing comes close
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it
Gae Bolg is the mvp here lol
It really was, after failing a few times trying to use protag as a main damage dealer with deadly fury + impaler's - I decided to just go all in on Gae Bolg and have MC do support instead.
It's easily one of the best unique attack skills in the game fr. Guaranteed crit, pierce, affected by pleromas AND strength based? Someone at Atlus loves Cu Chulainn.
@@blackquill7767 wait I never realized its a guaranteed critical. Critical Zealot, both plemoras, no need for impalers since it pierces, and you could gladi it using a support demon. fucking hell you're right, its SO good
@@DistortedNemesisI didn't even think about Critical Zealot. Guess I know what I'm going to be doing soon.
@@thecursed_1lordofcats738 It's especially broken on Cu because not only does Gae Bolg always crit, so crit zealot has no downside - he also has a built in version of Crit zealot as a passive that stacks. (His innate ability). According to a site that has stats for all skills he has an innate 1.25x multiplier on his crit damage.
@@blackquill7767 Guess I know who I’m putting on my team now.
The syncing at 14:52 made me ascend to godhood on the spot
Omg the editing really makes it feel like an anime fight, especially towards the end!
Glad you liked it! Thanks for commenting!
Dude. Others have said it, but your editing is simply peak holy shit. Just know we appreciate the time it must've taken for this dude. New subscriber
Thank you!! Video editing has been something I've dabbled with on and off for a while, it's nice to know people are really liking what I came up with. It's insanely encouraging
Okay that ending was pretty cool.
One of my favourite moments of the video ngl. Glad you liked it!
Getting the music to sync up with the Thor/Odin combo attack was also something that felt extremely satisfying
The finisher is so sick!! Love the editing, watching this felt like a movie.
Glad you enjoyed it! It's def one of my fav moments from the video too
amazing editing, really nicely done video!!!
Amanozako's small, but deadly energy in full view.
I had this exact same idea on the back of my mind since the og release but didn't like the gameplay due to lvl scaling and just forgot about it. I'm glad you had the same idea bc it came out wonderfully done. The editing (Ik everybody already said but still!), the optimal usage of severe aoe elemental omagatoki skills, the sheer luck of avoiding ailments and chaotic will for the most part... Yes, amazingly done man. You really deserve that victory.
Much appreciated! The main factor in avoiding ailments is def abyssal mask, it's really noticeable
I'm really happy you enjoyed the video!!
I wish there were more “SMT V boss battles but (insert theme here.)”
Your editting is amazing. Take this like.
Thank you so much!! Take this heart!
"I can see, you are a man of culture yourself"
If you're a fan of any SMT game you're automatically a man of culture.
That just how it be. I don't make the rules
Top tier video. Loved the editing.
Thank you so much for the kind words!!
I hope you enjoyed watching it 😄
Many others have already mentioned your awesome editing, so I want to applaud your dedication and game skills instead. I relied on so many special demons and broken skills and even that took me so much time both in fight and preparation. Yet here you are, managing such a difficult fight in the coolest way possible. You even have all the other demons ready in your stock just in case. I can't even imagine how long that preparation took. Amazing work, truly!
Thank you so much for the kind words!!!
I spent a lil while prepping for this for sure and getting a good rhythem for winning took some time but it was all worth it in the end!
Glad you enjoyed it! :D
Plot twist the Demi fiend just stands after that than just nukes you
Damn, I was trying to figure out how to properly do this in the original Switch version but I never figured out a build for each demon I liked. Hell yeah, well done!!!
Poetic justice at its finest
Retribution for all the suffering I went through fighting him in Digital Devil Saga
Creative concept my friend
The editing captures the feeling when you're really into a fight in a turn based game. Makes me want an actual SMT anime so we can get a proper representation of it. Great work bro
Bro me too, I'd love an anime adaptation of Nocturne or SMT4
Thanks for the kind words!!
You know... Seeing Amanozako as the alternative to Demi-Fiend's pixie has me wondering what others would make sense as alternatives (that is, others that are actually in the game. Sorry, Tam Lin.)
So, I devised a small list of sorts... Something for you flavour-lovers out there. Would they be viable? Probably not. Do I care? No. :)
ANYWAYS:
Chu Chullain -> Fionn Mac Cumhaill
Girimehkala -> Ganesha
Pixie -> Amanozako
Cerberus -> Orthrus
Thor -> Surt
Jack Frost -> Pyro Jack
Parvati -> Kali? (They're said to be related in some way, soooo)
The best part about SMT5 is any demon can be viable, as stat incenses and skill sets are farmable. Not to mention you can downfuse strong demons paired with certain miracles to get them higher stats than they would normally have at level 99 (i'm planning on doing this for any future ideas I have)
Also about the canon team thing, your ideas are pretty good! For me, it'd probably go something like this:
Cu = Fionn (obvious one)
Giri = Probably something like Gogamagog or Oyamatsumi
Pixie = Amanozako (another obvious one)
Cerb = Hayataro
Thor = Artemis
Jack Frost = Nahobeeho
Parvati = Nuwa, Cleopatra or Kushinada-Hime
I think they'd probably lean into the Susano-o aspect of Nahobino/Aogami and give his team some important demons from that aspect
This video reminded me on how much i mossed nocturnes ost.
Great video idea, fantastic edition and very fun to watch! Im on my firdt smt 5 run and im trying for semifiend and satan right now so this does give me motivation
Thank you!!
Good luck with your SMT5 playthrough! It's a great game, really addicting.
This is like watching Game 7 of a Finals game
I love the demon haunt bench in the thumbnail, it looks like they're deciding who gets to use it lmao.
Edit: Also, using charge before a Periapt Skill was genius.
Edit 2: That ending LMAOOO, I love how Cu Chulainn closed his eyes, as if passing the torch.
Thanks for such an amazing video
Thank you for such a kind comment!!!
Also I'm glad you liked the ending, I'm amazed at how it turned out too
Ngl, I was half expecting Nahobino protag to cast Gaia Rage or Moonlight Frost as a way of punishing Demi-Fiend for failing to kill off one of his allies after 6 actions 💀
Funnily enough in some of my first attempts at this I wanted to use gaea rage and chaotic will (that's why if you look my naho has +9 in ailments lol) but it wasn't consistent enough for me, Gaea rage is still 100+ MP at +9 and it wasn't doing enough damage to be worth it.
@@blackquill7767 understandable 💀
This fight looks so much more fair than DDS's Demi-Fiend. That one is pretty much entirely luck-based, even if you use the optimal strat.
It 100% is a lot fairer, both this and the Satan boss fight are.
What makes DDS Demi-fiend RNG reliant is the 'intended' way you're meant to avoid gaea rage which is when pixie/parvati casts dormina, you're supposed to use a skill that makes you avoid all damage while asleep but it has a good chance to not even hit
Now that I think about it gae bolg is pretty insane for the demi fiend fight. With crit zealot it gains a base power of 300, 35 pts higher than zanbarion and it’s more accurate and it pierces and he also he has a natural resist phys so you only have to invest one slot for resistances this demon is insane for demi fiend holy shit, it’s like having a Zeus for force element
Pierce and crit together on 1 skill is also huge because it means all cu needs is charge. No impalers or crit aura/crit magasu skill needed
Still holding out hope for builds from the Masakado video, but god DAMN is this a sick concept. Aside from Amanozako would you say there's any other demons that scream "Nahobino" to you?
Thanks for your comment! I'll post the builds on your other comment shortly
As for your question imo Fionn, Idun and Nahobeeho are must haves. I also think he should have some of the prominent bosses on his team like Abdiel, Nuwa or maybe some of the lesser bosses like Surt, Ishtar. It'd also be kinda funny for him to have Decarabia as he's really funny in this game and is everyone's favourite gem hunter
May I just say that the Raging Whirlwind at 8:26 and the Gae Bolg that follows go super well together?
I was just thinking about how cool these fights would look with edits to cut out the menus, this is amazing. I wonder what the one-turn fights look like
It just cuts to Naho destroying the boss with 7 press turns fully buffed lmao
26:25 PEAK
Very happy with that moment! Glad you liked it
@@blackquill7767do you know where to find raging whirlwind in vengeance . I can't find it anywhere
@@MrOdaddy2011 You need to find and talk to a Setanta demon NPC - he'll give you the item you need for it.
In canon of creation you can find him in Chiyoda, in the area past where Surt was
In canon of vengeance you can find him in Shinjuku, I think he's near a leyline fount somewhere.
Just look for speech icons on the map and you'll find him eventually
There should have been the opportunity for some adversarial Pixie vs Amanozako banter if you brought her to this fight.
I know technically this battle is supposed to mirror the squad of demons Demi Fiend has but it would’ve been funnier if there was a Black Frost on his team. I mean I can just imagine if the devs added some secret interaction between the Black Frost from Smt 3 Nocturne (you can find him in a side quest of sort) and Demi Fiend seeing some other Black Frost replace him lol.
I thinl these would be the perfect counters:
Pixie - Amanozako.
Cu chulainn - Fionn Mc Cumhall.
Grimekala - Lahmu/Arioch/Abdiel dark.
Thor - Odin/Zeus/Khonsu/Artemisa
Cerberus - Hydra.
Jack Frost - Mermaid/Anahita or now Nahobeeho.
Parvati - Demeter/Danu or now Sakuya.
That was really good!
But I have one question: Why didn't you just switch Amanozako out and back in when you got debuffed to reverse it for free? (Is it simply because she won't have the buff that way?)
I actually did think about that a few times but in my head I'm thinking it's quicker to just remove it with a dekunda stone. In one of my attempts I did do that though and it worked good!
Also thank you! I'm glad you enjoyed it
I know chuchulain is there because its a mirror match and demi fiend also has chuchulainn, but i think it would be more accurate (way harder to do too) to have chuchulain be replaced with fionn mac cumhail because he's technically someone in celtic lore the successor of chuchulainn in a way, but i know that makes this NOT a true mirror match if you replace too many demons, anyways i wonder who nahobino's true final team is? Based on game quest ect,
Yeah I felt I was already stretching the idea a bit by replacing Pixie with Amanozako but I think your idea would've been good too!
His final team would def include a lot of fan favourites from V: Idun, Artemis, Fionn, Nuwa, maybe some classics like Odin or Decarabia.
God this video is so fucking cool, as much as I like the cheese strats bc of how funny they are, this is gotta be the most stylish way of fighting him. I wonder how many attempts this took.
Also as said by many others, the editing is fucking superb. Like I wonder what other turn based rpgs would look like in this editing style.
Thank you so much! I love the cheese strat vids since they demonstrate how amazing (and broken) mixing and matching demons with innate skills are. It's just part of the fun but I personally opt not to use them since I enjoy the back and forth with bosses and slowly widdling them down
This took me quite a few attempts, one of which I choked super hard and lost when he had a sliver of hp left and it was only protag and amanozako left on the field. Not my finest moment.
The kind words have been really encouraging so once again thank you!!
Honestly, the lack of swapping whenever the Demi-Fiend had to bring in a new ally feels like it kinda defeats the purpose of a "Mirror Match"
That's a fair point, I had entirely planned to cycle through my team if anybody had went down (And in previous attempts they did). I did spend most of the fight with the same team, only really cycling between Giri and Cerb
I'll consider this if I ever do another similar video to this one but a lot of it just comes down to how the fight plays out when I'm recording it; I thought this one had some cool moments and accomplished what I wanted it to which was my goal at the end of the day.
The only other thing worth mentioning is his demons have a lot more health than mine and If I'd matched his demons (E.g I bring out Jack Frost when he does) I'd be at a disadvantage because I wouldn't be able to deal with their weaknesses effectively. It's still possible though and ultimately it's a fair criticism no matter what.
I hope you enjoyed the video regardless of that though!
Goes hard
Not looking forward to when they make Nahobino a future fight in the series. If they have amanozako able to reverse debuffs like in Vengeance especially. Should be really fun to seen Fionn buffed though since Mac En Luin sucks as it doesn't guaranty pierce or crits and i would imagine Bino's team using their signature moves when they have that.
They did my man dirty in Vengeance - they should've given his unique pierce or something.
@@blackquill7767 Facts. His innate doesn't even synergize with his kit either. I still made him a figment spammer cause figment slash can do wonders for any demon with physical skill proficiency.
@@dave9515 If you want prob the best figment slash spammer in the game, if you make a party with Cu and put Scathach in the party - her figment slash literally can never miss because of her innate. Let me say that is BUSTED. I beat both Demi-fiend and Satan using these two as main damage dealers.
@@blackquill7767 Holy cow that is busted. I never really thought about that. Currently grinding for teambuilding for the sim and i wanna try that now. Chu chullain can gae bolg and debilitate, Scathach just spams figment slash, Sakuya or Tao heals/Lustercandy, and Bino just deals damage with stuff like murakumo or gaea rage.
@@dave9515 Give Scathach impaler's and nothing will stand in her way, let the crits rain.
Another perk of using those two is you get access to Raging Whirlwind which is what I used a lot in the superboss fights.
...huh.
Guess they finally fixed the javelin rain code
Was it bugged in the Switch version?
@blackquill7767 for some reason instead of using null phys using resist physical meant he would _only_ go for javelin rain, never once will he use gaia rage.
This was effectively the biggest loophole of the demi fiend
@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 Damn, I'd never heard about that.
Thanks for answering!
Now do this with each demon being a counterpart to Demi Fiend's Team(Ex: Mara instead of Grimekhala and keep Amanozako instead of Pixie)
Since making this I've had a bunch of ideas, I shall add this one to the pile!
Awesome video! The editing is amazing, I thought the game had a replay feature lol
Thank you! A replay feature certainly would've saved me a lot of time
What kind of stinks you can only have the demi-fiend as a guest not as a fusion
the demi fiend in my battle crit 80% of the time with his frei lol, dealing about 800hp on every single of my demons lmao, I kat believe he almost hardly crit in here lol
From what I've observed, crits seem to be heavily affected by level/luck - since all my demons are 99 and have decent luck I think that played a big role in why his freikugel wasn't critting as often.
I did also bump up their vitality using incenses a tad, I wanted each demon to have at least 100 vitality, I remember when I was experimenting my Jack Frost who had like 80/85 vitality went down extremely quickly
Amanozaco es la Pixie del Nahobino no?
sí 👍
I have to know what your build for Cu Chulainn is.
All of the builds are listed at the end of the fight, time code is in the description!
What mean mirror match?
It's usually a fighting game term that means when two opponents fight using the exact same character. In this context - I'm only using demons that Demi-fiend uses with the exception of Amanozako.
@@blackquill7767 I see, thanks
Why does he summon incapacitated allies?
Because he is the Demifiend and is has to be broken 😅
At least that's all he does in this game
In Digital Devil Saga, his demons will go "lol RECARMDRA" if you ignore them for too long.
because that's the mechanic for Demi-Fiend Superboss fight here, if you ignore his demons, he will cast Gaea Rage, skill that have a lot of Damage & pierced, so you must kill at least 1 of his demons every 6 turns, he has 7 demons in his stock & every time you kill 1 of his demons he will summon his next demons from that pool
How can you call this a mirror match when your not even using pixie instead of amanozako it literally throws the mirror match idea out of the window when you don't even use the same demons as your opponent
Yeah I mean it's a fair criticism but the reason I used Amanozako instead of Pixie is because she essentially takes that roll thematic wise which I thought was a lot more interesting
It is bending the idea of a mirror match, but only slightly. I get why you might not be a fan of the idea, that's totally fine.
Not effective bild, during fight he casted chaotic will no less then 5 times, 1 cast got you, if something goes wrong -you could be already dead.
Still, it was good work, you deserve like for sure🤌
Well to be honest effectiveness was never the name of the game with this. I was more so interested in finding out if I could pull this off and with a bit of luck in my favour I managed to do so, without a single demon dying as well
If I'd have skipped mediarahan the fight would've been over much quicker and would've (imo) been more boring to watch so I always try to power through the mediarahan since I like the extra challenge.
Thank you for your comment! I'm glad you enjoyed the video!