Vinyl record cleaning the Ultrasonic way - Making the unplayable sound great again

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  • @mannye
    @mannye 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Finally someone plays a before and after! Sounds great.

  • @mattcameron9349
    @mattcameron9349 6 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Another ‘top tip’, it’s worth buying a pack of brand new inner-sleeves to store the records once cleaned. I’m amazed how many people clean their records then slide them back into yellowing, mouldy sleeves!

    • @ajmoore2201
      @ajmoore2201 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matt Cameron exactly mate.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      And if the original inner-sleeve does contain lyrics or so, one can keep them.

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Causticism When the new one is foil and the old one is paper, it could work. Or you put first the record with new sleeve and then the old sleeve in. Outer sleeves are pretty often so wide, that you could put two records in.

    • @mannye
      @mannye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Causticism I will just put them both in the sleeve side by side if they have lyrics, but sometimes they don't fit. If I really want to save the liner, I'll put a protection sleeve on the whole shebang and those are large enough to hold inner sleeves.

  • @ihrescue
    @ihrescue 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the explanation and demonstration on the ultrasonic way. That was a big difference before and after. I think the ultrasonic clearly would do a great job of shaking loose the coats of dust and grime but I think your use of the ionized water and the parts washer to dispense the water under mild pressure to rinse the discs off is the ultimate. Using the ionized water should eliminate the chance that there is minerals and other dissolved waterborne junk that could begin new deposits on the records. Great video.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad it was helpful.
      I notice people selling super-expensive record cleaning devices don't demonstrate 'before & after'.
      Richard (UK)

  • @DrOlds100
    @DrOlds100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I enjoyed this immensely and it truly made a huge difference in that record! I have approx. 450 45rpm records, I play them on a regular basis and I'm going to set up a cleaning system to mirror this one. Thank you for this informative video sir!

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the difference here is that I'm not selling anything & demonstrate a genuine before & after!
      Richard

  • @hueyjmedina0
    @hueyjmedina0 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Definitely going to try this with my mother's seven inch singles collection and with my twelve inch collection. I like the results. Thanks, from Los Angeles.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      In reality we have a bigger model to take the 12" records. I'm still cleaning records nearly every day.
      Richard, UK

  • @yissssss
    @yissssss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm just going to slam dunk this record into the parts cleaner real quick.

  • @YUHJKT
    @YUHJKT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The way I clean my records is 1. put label cover on. 1-A. I rinse under kitchen faucet. 2. I lightly scrub with dish soap and water and a soft sponge. 3. rinse. 4. I rotate in record cleaning trough thingy with the camel hair brushes. 5. Rinse with faucet water. 6. Rinse with filtered drinking water. 7 rack dry and finish with cotton towel. I change the water in the trough every 5 or 6 albums. They come out spectacularly clean. Sound great. Point being, the record is pre-cleaned before it is put in the soapy water trough. Then it is rinsed 2 more times.

  • @jamesrobinson9176
    @jamesrobinson9176 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just received a nearly identical cleaner. Sure hope this video provides solid advice 🙂

  • @M6GOF
    @M6GOF 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Personally I've used PVA wood glue with amazing results. Obviously can't do anything about a record that's scratched to death but the vast improvement in sound quality is amazing.

    • @hulksmash8159
      @hulksmash8159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is a nice solution, as well. I can confirm.

  • @thedoc2716
    @thedoc2716 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just bought a tank the manual dose not say what thread is in the drain tap can you tell me the thread size of youre tank in hope its the same as on my tank so i can attach a barb tail and hose to my tank.

  • @VintageGearMan
    @VintageGearMan ปีที่แล้ว

    Where did you get those spin on label protectors? I already own the same exacting ultrasonic unit for clock parts cleanings. Of course I will not be using clock cleaning solution on my 45's.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are part of the Knosti Disco Antistat system & are available as a spare part individually. I got mine from Ebay, but you'll find them available from many sources.
      Richard, UK

    • @VintageGearMan
      @VintageGearMan ปีที่แล้ว

      So the label protectors are one in the same for LP'S and 45's?@@ukfmcbradioservicingTango21

    • @VintageGearMan
      @VintageGearMan ปีที่แล้ว

      I have a very nice CB set up but no locals now. Pretty much just an emergency communications set up now. Sad.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VintageGearMan Yes they are. When you have 45's with the centre removed, there is a built-in adaptor.
      Richard

  • @Chasing_records
    @Chasing_records 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you say what the solutions you use again is in the ultra sonic cleaner and how much of each please. The video was really helpful thank you

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the formula is already in the 'blurb', but to repeat, it's distilled/deionised water 80%, Isopropyl Alcohol 20% & photographic wetting agent 5ml
      Richard

  • @paulmardon9954
    @paulmardon9954 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    After washing have you ever used a hand held wet vac to help dry your records? I manually clean my records with solution and brush and then use my Karcher Window vac to removed worst of the liquid and hopefully some dirt.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No I haven't...but if it works for you. I'm playing some records at present that I cleaned a decade ago & have remained spotless...nothing coming off the record & onto the stylus.
      Richard (UK)

  • @redprince3158
    @redprince3158 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damaged record?

  • @JohnStruemph
    @JohnStruemph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job! Thanks!

  • @edwardyoung8575
    @edwardyoung8575 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great job!!! Proof is right there!!!

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All these years later now in 2023, I'm still buying cheap lots of singles via Ebay "for craft use only".....meaning unplayable records & recovering 9 out of 10 on average.
      The whole point here is I'm not selling anything.....not one of these "come & buy our cleaning system"..no.
      Richard, UK

  • @aaronryan3069
    @aaronryan3069 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant video! What litre is this ultrasonic cleaner and also have you ever had any problems with label damage from the ultrasonic cleaner? I have a Knosti cleaner myself but find the spindle clasp/holder isn't all that water tight!

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually run the ultrasonic 3min per side these days. Sometimes label damage if I forget to take the record out after the 3 mins. Perhaps 1%
      Regarding litres, I have two of these...this is the smaller one, the other takes a 12" LP on a diaganal such that the whole record is 'just' underwater. When I bought there via AliExpress I went on the internal tank dimensions rather than litres.
      Richard

  • @75Krusty
    @75Krusty 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the brand and model of the digital ultrasonic cleaner? There's a lot of ultrasonic cleaners on the net. Just want to make sure, I get the right one you are using, so I get the right size, and also the timer functions. Thanks mate for the video. Krusty from Denmark. BTW: Just noticed you are cleaning small singles in a 15 liter ultrasonic cleaner. Do you know the size in liters I need for normal size records?

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm only interested in 7" records, so choose a size right for your requirements. I have two identical ones. I simply bought the cheapest price one via aliexpress. Instructions state to rest the machine 5 mins after 15 mins continuous & do so. I didn't & ended up having to repair one of the machines...but then I'm an electronics engineer & replacing two blown output transistors & 3 diodes wasn't a snag for me. One is model PS40A & the bigger one that will just take a 12" record if filled full is a PS60A. No branding. I'm very satisfied with both units.
      Richard (UK)

    • @75Krusty
      @75Krusty 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 PS60A... Thanks a lot. Will search for that. Regards Krusty

  • @Geoduck.
    @Geoduck. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The fact you showed dropping the 45 gives you serious credibility Richard.
    I like the spin clean thingie after the ultrasound and using the filter to collect drippings is genius. I use tap water from the kitchen sink after doing a ten minute ultrasound cleaning but the parts washier is clearly better. Thanks for a helpful video!

  • @elvisrafi
    @elvisrafi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi how often do you change the ultrasonic water/cleaning fluid?

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Water (in the washer) & fluid (in the Ultrasonic), when it starts looking dirty is removed and run through laboratory filter paper (in a funnel) into a clean plastic chemical bottle. This takes about 3 days.
      The water & fluids have to be topped up periodically too.
      Richard

    • @elvisrafi
      @elvisrafi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your quick reply...
      I just need to know about the water in the Ultrasonic cleaner.
      So just to clarify you visually see if its dirty and then filter it out into a seprate bottle and reuse it again?
      and if need be top up every so often?
      Is this correct.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elvisrafi Yes,that's exactly what I do.
      Richard

  • @SingapuraTreasure
    @SingapuraTreasure 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    where to get that thing you cover the record lable before you dump the record into the ultrasonic cleaner?

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As mentioned in the video, the rotary baths & the label covers are part of the Knosti Disco Antistat system. I bought mine on Ebay & those covers are available separately from them.
      Richard (UK)

    • @raaawkstaaar
      @raaawkstaaar 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      covers don't work, the water will leak onto the edges of the labels of a 33...never used a 45 so I can't comment on that but would assume same result

    • @edmundbork460
      @edmundbork460 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello. I have Knosti washer and
      covers bigger which I have purchased separately and do not cause the labels to be flooded - but I have a question about the quality of washed plates, ultrasound washer or plates losing after such washing clutches - micro-mirrors visible against the light because Im going to buy an ultrasonic cleaner.

  • @richardkyle5115
    @richardkyle5115 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hiya. Do you have any advice on cleaning 12" records in similar way?

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, simply get a larger ultrasonic cleaner that will take an LP. Look at the tank dimensions offered . I have two tanks, one as shown for 7" & a larger one for 12". I've seen people & products that are supposed to clean whilst the record is vertical but don't believe it is as effective as doing one side at a time in the way I've shown. My late Father was a Doctor of Chemistry & we worked out this technique together many years ago when he was still alive.
      Richard

    • @richardkyle5115
      @richardkyle5115 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ukfmcbradioservicingTango21 cheers. I've already got a tank that will take vertical half submerged LPs but not horizontal. Do you think you could dip half and then the other half?

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@richardkyle5115 Yes, I previously did lp's as flat as I could using 4 passes per side when I only had the smaller tank (the one in the video) & it worked fine for me.
      Richard

  • @liang3102
    @liang3102 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Brilliant

  • @phonotical
    @phonotical 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder how it would work on a 78... Might want to wipe the crap it leaves behind off your stylus

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just taking a big break sorting things out after the death of my 92 year old uncle. The fluid for cleaning 78's must not contain alcohol so is totally different. Today I tested doing a 78 using the same setup with different liquid, using industrial Teepol detergent mixed to a ratio of 1:250. Unfortunately when I dug out a suitable turntable to try it on & discovered the DIN interconnect lead is missing, so have ordered another.
      This is my first time on here since February.

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    "If I were into 78rpm records then it would just be distilled water & wetting agent as the isopropyl would affect the shellac."
    Would wash petrol work?

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks like you are in Germany & I don't know what wash petrol is. When I do shellac records, I use a very dilute industrial UK made detergent made by TEEPOL. I use their "multi purpose detergent". This is made for laboratory use. My late Father put me onto this who was a Doctor or Chemistry and wanted to clean his 78's.
      Richard

    • @robfriedrich2822
      @robfriedrich2822 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok, the right word is "white spirit".

  • @russmangus
    @russmangus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Before: 1:02
    After: 7:52

  • @charlieoscar09
    @charlieoscar09 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sounds great after the restore....record and player

  • @wa4aos
    @wa4aos 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done

  • @MrXavierRose
    @MrXavierRose 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sound like Rod Temperton who was a producer for Michael Jackson... A soothing deep voice

  • @robfriedrich2822
    @robfriedrich2822 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On inner sleeves they wrote, that records can't handle more than 35°C.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair enough....I said 38C as a maximum. Bear in mind I clean at 25C, it's the ultrasonic cleaner heating the water through it's action, so simply stop at 35 & wait for it to cool down. I find doing about 15 record sides is the maximum temperature rise I'm happy with.
      richard

  • @CHIBA280CRV
    @CHIBA280CRV 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic thanks

  • @antochavez4768
    @antochavez4768 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Q precio tienen

  • @giovannibaietti2384
    @giovannibaietti2384 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Analogis clean (Lenco clean) but with Vetril liquid, from 50 years and for the rest of my life !!!

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMAZING!

  • @frederickfranchi6408
    @frederickfranchi6408 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job but I've been saying that for years with the ultrasonic cleaner and Records way to show that it can be done!!!😎

  • @vintagestereocollector4159
    @vintagestereocollector4159 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can deep fry some french fries in there lol 😆 😂 😝

  • @M7XCB
    @M7XCB 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Am not big fan of Tom Jones but sounded loads different.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Random record B side to try & evade the copyright police for the purpose of this demonstration.
      Richard

  • @johnstark5324
    @johnstark5324 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why does no one do a "I cleaned the record with normal methods" then ultrasonic cleaning test? Everybody who does a video on "how much better" the record is after an ultrasonic bath cleaning is always plays a damn dirty record.

    • @demef758
      @demef758 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Are you in the habit of expecting others to do your dirty work? Why don't YOU get off your butt and do it, then post a TH-cam video of the experiment?

  • @gman5218
    @gman5218 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You sound just like Jarvis Cocker 😂

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had to Google Jarvis Cocker to find out who he is. Well he's a year younger than me. He originally came from Sheffield...I came from Rotherham, as little as 4 miles apart.
      Richard, G0OJF, Lincolnshire UK

  • @davros8222
    @davros8222 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Richard, I have sent you a message via Facebook, as i cannot do it via TH-cam.RegardsDarren

  • @EddyTeetree
    @EddyTeetree 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    There both b sides and probably sound better dirty

  • @janedoe8533
    @janedoe8533 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't ever use alcohol on records. Watch someone who knows something about this. Michael Fremer. Analogplanet on TH-cam.

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Strange. This technique was developed between my late Father & myself in the late 1980's for vinyl records @20% Alcohol 2mins in solution. More alcohol causes vinyl to harden & become brittle. My late father was a Doctor of Chemistry with access to a million volt AEI electron microscope. However, never ever use alcohol with shellac 78's!
      Richard (UK)

  • @bigpimp347
    @bigpimp347 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you getting back to CB radios..!!
    surely there's more you could be doing..

    • @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21
      @ukfmcbradioservicingTango21  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mark,
      The repairs that come in are always sets that have been covered already.Yes, there are plenty of sets here to do which are my own, but I'm busy on the pipe organ side of the business so electronics stuff on here is just jobs that have come in that I haven't previously covered. Organ restorations take 19,000 man hours per job, so that's where the time is going.
      T21

    • @bigpimp347
      @bigpimp347 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any old excuse :)
      get on with it, pull your finger out and get some more CB's done..
      i'll lend you a load but mine are all illegal..
      good work as always though at T21 Towers..