Alex Jones Obliterated on Cross Because His Lawyer Sent His Cell Phone to Opposing Counsel
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The thing is, if Jones hadn't disregarded all discovery obligations, the judge probably would have accepted "Please disregard" and allowed the clawback...But he didn't.
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Will you be doing a video about the FBI raid on trump
I thought Morning Brew was a website for making coffee in the morning lol
@@Bored_Barbarian nothing of particular interest there, pretty basic and common stuff.
The Trial should've become a mistrial after it was revealed that the opposing lawyer accidentally got evidence from Jone's lawyer.
IMAGINE Being reminded by the OPPOSING COUNCEL that you can assert the 5th because he is screwing you so bad 😭
"at least do something, it's not fun to beat your ass if you're not even going to raise your hands"
Savage.
Reminds me of that guy who was caught being in the same house as his abuse victim during their courtcase on zoom. The judge started advising him to keep his mouth shut
Imagine believing that
Jeeze Louise! The EXACT same thought crossed my mind after watching this hilarious cross examination! Alex Jones shot himself in the foot and then seemingly decided to empty the clip into it!
@@doitf3525 Wow, a month late and I spot this gold retort.
Are you suggesting that you have you use your imagination in order to believe reality, that has been videotaped and presented? 😄
when that lawyer said "INDEED" you know it justified all the loans and time to become a lawyer for this serve
The little chuckle before that he sounded like he just ate something extremely delicous.
@@MeonLightsyea, jones' credibility
@@stellaleicht4035LMAO
You could almost HEAR his fingers tenting
@@kaileymo He was giving full Count Ratigan levels of malicious glee
The actual footage of the court room was amazing.
The best part was when the opposing counsel literally just said "Hm Hm Hmm. Yes Mr. Jones. Indeed."
The opposing counsel is literally living the Ace Attorney dream.
He's even in the blue suit.
You could tell he was just barely holding in his laughter.
My man was just looooooooooooooooooooving this...
Normally, I'd consider that unprofessional, but with a man as awful as jones... yeah, enjoying taking him town is very warranted.
He reminded my of someone playing chess whose opponent had just missed the fact he was about to take his queen.
just needed a little more desk slapping
I feel bad because for the REST of his LIFE that opposing counsel will forever chase the high of this day.
Had me in the first half ngl💀
Nah he got the immortalized treatment
Damn junkie. Always chasing the Alex dragon.
I think it probably sent his career to new heights.
The fuckin anime "ohoho" laugh right before Alex Jones spikes the camera like a deer in the headlights... guy really did get to live every lawyer's dream right there lmao
"You're holding it upside down" Jones would have figured that out in about half a second but the absolute open, unwavering contempt the plaintiff's attorney has for Jones to blast him for that, I love.
Don't forget the prep work. He HANDED it to him upside down.
Premeditation... cold, calculated premeditated murder.
@@Dewydidit Watch again. Jones turned it upside down the moment he got it. 2:52
that was hilarious
@@SarahSmith-cq2ke This just gets better and better :)
I had a good chuckle from that one
When Alex’s attorney tried to argue for a mistrial, it reminded me of the scene in “Liar Liar”
“I object”
“On what grounds?”
“This is devastating to my case!”
Liar Liar had the gift of foresight!!
Hahahaha, perfect.
"I move for a bad court thingy"
I watched this lawyer's opening statement and could not imagine how the jury could listen to it with a straight face, and that 100% superfluous "Don't lie to the Jury" was like something out of bad tv - it felt like it was challenging fate.
In my wildest dreams I wouldn't have thought fate would take him up on it like this.
"Overruled."
"Good call!"
This isn't even a Perry Mason moment, this is a Phoenix Wright moment. You present evidence that you absolutely should not have to point out a contradiction in the witness' statement and prove they're lying (and also prove that their lawyer was deliberately hiding incriminating info). It's too perfect
My god, you’re right. Someone needs to edit that clip with Phoenix Wright music and sound effects
It's more of a Curb moment.......just needs Directed by Robert B. Weide over the clip.
Lesson learned: never hire Winston Payne to be your défense attorney
This is wo on point! Remember when Devin styled himself on Phoneix haha those were the days. A TH-cam lawyer based on a video game one...amazing. I wonder if for charity he would reenact The First Turnabout!
But in Japan you can do that if you submit it to the police you don't need to give it to the opposition
The biggest oh shit moment of this entire video was said right at the end of it. "The January 6 committee wants these documents, and I'm going to give the documents to them."
It's like a teaser for the next season of a show
The biggest possible hype up for a season of all time.
I would be vibrating across the courtroom floor with barely repressed excitement if I wound up on jury duty for that.
Same, that stuck out to me as well. The attorney basically said “oh by the way, you’re going to federal prison over this error”
It just says Alex Jones Will Return
@@mr.weirdness5970
Next time of Alex Jones continues on make a fool of himself in legal court
Defending counsel- "But your honor, I said 'sike'."
Lawyer- "Yes but you see your honor, there's no takesies backsies after 10 days"
Defending counsel- "Damn he's good..."
Who has time to read EVERY rule, you honor, I mean, cut us some slack here!
"Too long, didn't read. My client's innocent your honor."
*counsel. Council is like a city council. Counsel is advice (or the person providing it). The more you know!
sike, not psych
This is perfectly explained, and exceptionally funny. Well done, sir. Well done.
I'm like 70% leaning towards Alex Jone's lawyer just HATING his client and wanting to screw him over at this point. Because how the heck do you make such a monumental error on such a high-profile case? He's either the worst lawyer in the history of lawyers (Which I doubt, since Alex Jones is very wealthy and can afford the highest-paid lawyers) or this was on purpose.
Or he was staring at a potential charge of subornation of perjury and decided to rat his client out to stay out of jail.
If it's true that it was actually the legal assistant that sent everything, I could absolutely see that being completely intentional. Sure you get fired, but your "mistake" gets the awful client dunked on lol
Simple, bribery and blackmail. Why do you think a lawyer that a million dollar earning man would make a mistake so big in the first place? Because someone either bribed him, or threatened to kill him via "accident" like what happened in the case with Epstein's "suicide" and witnesses against his accomplice Ghislane to limit the trial to the punishment of one accomplice rather then open up an investigation involving Epstien's black book. A mistake like this can ACTUALLY get a lawyer disbarred because it's not arguing for his client.
However, the lawyer has currently not been disbarred for that. And why do you think that is? Because, of course, they need him for other cases. See, blackmail or bribery in history does not end with one incident, there's compromises and secrets kept, so they'll likely use this particular lawyer in other cases or use him as a mole to aid defence of their particular brand of criminal after a swift promotion, because the same people have some amount of control over the US court. Now that he's burned, he's in their system. You don't leave when you get that on you.
Jones made powerful enemies by exposing the island meetup of world leaders back in the day and now he's getting socially destroyed on flimsy claims. And people like you eat it up because you're emotionally driven and do not do research.
@@bloodyidit4506 Likely more importantly, aiding and abetting his own client in committing perjury would itself be a crime of its own.
Subornation of perjury is not something a lawyer should take lightly.
I'm not as sure as you are that they'll actually get disbarred considering that the alternative could have been prison time.
@@shentino Unfortunately, lawyers get off scot free for that. Both sides do too. The law doesn't really apply to lawyers during a case either mostly because a lawyer cannot be feasibly proven to have been an aid or abetter to a lying defendant or witness. It's called plausible deniability.
There's a reason they weren't disbarred. That's normally something that a lawyer would get disbarred for, intentional or not. And it reeks of foul play from the other side. People still haven't learned "innocent before guilty" son. You're all convinced from the start, which is why we have laws. You all want blood, which is why we have laws. Yet you're still fine with breaking them.
Every time Alex Jones goes to court, it makes me nervous. I'm afraid that some clever lawyer is going to get Jones to say "Everything I say is a lie" and then the universe will eat itself because it can't handle that level of paradox.
Same
That isn’t a paradox; it would be consistent if some things he says are lies, but some aren’t, and that was one of the lies.
“This statement is false” is a paradox, “This statement and statement X are both false” isn’t, because it's consistent if that statement is false and X is true.
OMG I love this comment so much. You were able to verbalize precisely what I have been feeling this whole time.
You could really lose some weight. Maybe work out a little, kit.
Hyperbole
When the lawyer asked “do you know what perjury is” jones looked terrified!!!!
Time stamp?
@@LightStorm. 11:31
"You know what perjury is, right?"
It was in that moment that Alex Jones knew he had f*cked up.
AJ should have answered: "sure, it's my way of life and business model"
His coughing is gone once he heard about the cellphone.
It's a miracle!
It's the 5G brain waves!
Actually, I think it’s medically possible. Adrenaline has peculiar effects on the body, including “focusing” one or making aches and pains disappear. I imagine he has a kilo of adrenaline circulating in his blood at that moment.
@@roberto8650 adrenaline doesn’t make pain go away, that is endorphins and endocannabinoids. It’s a complex process but part of the flight or fight so maybe that’s why you thought it was adrenaline
@@thecosmicxx Thanks!
Nervous cough.
I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but this whole thing screams "I hate my client" from the defense attorney.
I have no personal knowledge but, from what I have heard, he goes through lawyers quick because he is extremely hard to work with.
I would agree, but this is so damaging to the lawyer’s career that I don’t think they would’ve done it intentionally. Not to mention the ethics of it all.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 look at the circumstances surrounding the proceedings though - if there WAS somebody to sandbag at a time in your career THIS WOULD BE IT. lol
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 I don't think lawyers can even say the word "ethics" without bursting into flames.
That’s my theory as well.
I have NEVER heard a court stenographer typing so frantically as during that bomb drop, it literally sounded like one of those automated typewriters they’d attach to telegraph machines!
When was that?
@@Nesymafdet from 7:12 onwards I'm pretty sure
@@brentos-the-mentos I thought that was cameras or something lol that's crazy
I like the idea of them typing like Johnny from airplane!
A lot of extra typing to put "Stenographers note: OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
That lawyer has been waiting all his career to say the word "indeed" in the court of law
And he pulled it off absolutely perfectly. God that was awesome.
I bet he's a fan of Stargate character Teal'c
@@vawlkus everyone should be
STARGATE REFERENCE LETS GO
@@DavidLopez-en6el indeed
"You've got it upside down."
That might be the single most symbolic moment from the whole trial.
DuetJay, *Alex Jones is, of course, still on air, and he has an Amazon best-seller. 😅MUCH of what Alex says on his show is technically accurate. The dangers of the clot shot isn't fake news. The "Great Reset" that the World Economic Forum is pushing isn't fake news. The digital ID isn't fake news. The food shortages aren't fake news. The woke agenda isn't fake news. The fascist behavior of the Democratic Party isn't fake news. These are things that are in our faces, more and more each day, that even leftist mainstream media cannot hide forever...*
It was a trick by the lawyers, purposely give him the papers upside down and before Alex can say anything, point out that it's upside down. Just a seasoned attorney's trick.
I’m all for seeing Alex jones being shown like this, but I found that part sorta petty lol
@@snaeshaads8203 but he was holding it upside down.
He ain’t gonna pay them a dime.. lol The fact you think this was an actual real trial.. lol
Legal assistant here. Abject fear of committing exactly this kind of error has literally woken me up at night in a cold sweat multiple times. On the bright side, I have not actually made such an error to date. So far so good (:
The email exchange is just... smh... sounds like the assistant probably didn't even tell the rest of the team about the mistake.
That you know of.
Go knock on wood
Fellow legal assistant! I will go to my grave thinking this was no mistake and this assistant deliberately pulled an Edward Snowden.
@@juliav.mcclelland2415 I like this! I’m with you on this belief. Because I want to believe. 😃
I can't believe that lawyer got away with straight up murder in front of a judge like that.
Not to mention an arson. So many lives were burned badly by that heat!
The judge wanted to murder Jones... Nobody liked the guy, not even his lawyer. I think his lawyer was legit just done with him and was like, to the prosecutor, "Dude, you want an easy win? I'm tired of this fat f'er." lol
Fatality! Phoenix Wright WINS!
All I could think of was Chuck D's and Cypress how you just kill a man in my head.
@@TheEDFLegacy double arson, Jones' pants were clearly on fire after that exchange.
"You got it upside down" I salute all those people in the court keeping it professional and not facepalming in unison.
to be fair, the spectators aren't mic'd.
i remember reading that the spectators at the jan six hearings from a couple years ago all laughed at that clip of senator josh "no, they were totally peaceful demonstrators" holley literally running away from them. but it was silent on the stream.
(was a relief to find out about the laughter after the fact. i was amazed at their self control when i watched the stream.)
I laughed so hard I cried
Thats what the Gavel is for, to get attention and provide people with amnesia so they can live normal lives without the burden of remembering this stuff.
That's actually a somewhat common tactic to make the person on the stand look like an idiot. Place a piece of paper sideways and if they rotate it the wrong direction without looking you immediately and loudly point out that they're holding it upside down. Alex Jones absolutely is an idiot, I'm just saying this is one of a million little techniques that lawyers have to influence the jury and can make even intelligent people look dumb. Do it too often and you annoy the judge, but it was expertly used at this moment.
@@osmium6832 which is the oposite of what happened here. Lawyer put it in a way he could read, he rotated it 180 picking it up by the top for some reason. Also, Jones doesn't need the help making himself look like an idiot.
The Defense attorney whines, "It's an incredibly large amount of documents, your honor." Yeah dude...that's why your client pays you the big bucks. You should have had a large enough legal team to go through the documents. Otherwise, don't take the damned case!
🔼 so much this!
What's wild to me is he (the defense attorney) was presented the evidence when the prosecutor asked to submit it (around 3:30 timestamp), HAD NO OBJECTIONS, and then didn't object when it was announced where the document actually came from. Did he even look at the evidence? Of texts saying "Sandy Hook" and not think "huh, this could be bad for us" ???
When the opposing attorney is telling you that you have the right to shut your mouth and plead the fifth, you know it's bad.
Several youtube lawyers (real ones) have said this is very improper. And what the judge said, too.
@@AndreAngelantoni you going after our LegalEagle now?
@@AndreAngelantoni 💩
🤡 🍆
@@AndreAngelantoni It probably is. It's prejudicial-suggesting a witness should plead the fifth is tantamount to turning directly to the jury and telling them this person is guilty, which isn't how you're supposed to address the court.
Got any examples of these real youtube lawyers?
I loved the “see, I did give it to you/I was cooperating” from Jones after the lawyer inadvertently sent the phone records. That is like a murderer dumping the gun in a lake, then in a strange chance a diver finds it and hands it too police, and upon hearing this, the murderer declares “see, I gave the police my gun…I am cooperating fully.”
He literally tried to gaslight the prosecution.
@@elizabethsmith7224 When all you do is recycle your bag of tricks onto an easy to please audience again and again, you really don't have much else to fall back on. As shown perfectly by Alex Jones.
That’s funny but it’s not the same, if he did give his phone to the lawyer it is in fact given. What the lawyer does with that information doesn’t impact the client like we clearly see happen here. Maybe he did lie and never searched himself but he did give the evidence up.
Don't you just hate it when the defendant sends you so much incriminating evidence you have to by a new server.
"Your Honor, that is a tremendous amount of information go through." "Yes, but the problem is, these documents should have been gone through a year ago or longer--and then, there would have been _plenty_ of time to go through."
This was after he had asked for a 10 day trial delay before the punitive damages portion of the trial to go though the data... She gave him the rest of THAT day.
He also asked plaintiff's counsel to wait until they actually received the subpoena from the J6 committee to send it to them. She responded "They're GOING to subpoena it... They know it exists now..."
That whole hearing was gold. Bankston just destroyed them.
The judge kicked his ball in with that lol. And she's pretty cute
That was so much shade, it sucked the vitamin D out of the lawyer.
@@benwillems8584 I don't think it would be a misstatement to say that Jones' lawyer was sitting there in court realizing that his entire career was ending right there before him, and there was virtually nothing that he could do to stop it.
"Your Honor, this is a tremendous amount of incriminating evidence against my client. Please help me." LOL
Judge: "Prosecution, it's time for cross."
Prosecution: *(crucifies opposing counsel)*
Lendri, *😅For Democrats, why do your majority cities and states FOR DECADES have THE HIGHEST DRUG AND CRIME RATES?????????? Atlanta, Los Angeles, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, etc., and now San Francisco!!! What's your answer for that?????????? Trump-obsession?????? And why is it mostly DEMOCRATS (leftist BLM and Antifa) that burn cities, taunt and attack cops ON VIDEO, loot stores, destroy businesses, while claiming to be "peaceful protesters" and causing over an estimated 2 BILLION IN PROPERTY DAMAGES in 2020, alone??????* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lendri, *Alex Jones is, of course, still on air, and he has an Amazon best-seller. 😅MUCH of what Alex says on his show is technically accurate. The dangers of the clot shot isn't fake news. The "Great Reset" that the World Economic Forum is pushing isn't fake news. The digital ID isn't fake news. The food shortages aren't fake news. The woke agenda isn't fake news. The fascist behavior of the Democratic Party isn't fake news. These are things that are in our faces, more and more each day, that even leftist mainstream media cannot hide forever.*
It's like Farrar and Ball brought the cross but Alex nailed himself to it.
This is a GROSSLY underrated comment.
Quick reminder its plaintiff guys, prosecution are state servitor lawyers that work only on criminal cases, to essentially put criminals away or other penal measures. A civil case like this has a plaintiff, usually from a private law firm, who essentially wants (usually pecuniary) compensation for damages alex may have caused his client.
i could NOT be a juror in this courtroom, i'd be yelling in the stands like a dad who thinks the TV can hear him
100% ^
@@mk177 I wouldn't even get that fare I would have no issue saying yes I'm going to side with the defended when being interviewed
I think I'd have been thrown out for laughing too much.
@@mesothelimoa341 “you’ve got it upside down” would have destroyed me. I would have had to be removed
"You're a dumbass if you don't plead the fif... I mean throw the ball"
"Hmhmhmhm, yes Mr. Jones. Indeed." God, that was straight up theatrical 😂 that attorney was having a ball
Legal Eagle: "Crazy gotchas only happen in movies."
Alex Jones' lawyers: "And we took that personally."
Lmao
Wouldn’t: “Hold my nutritional supplements” be more appropriate
As Legal Eagle himself has said in previous videos, the whole process of Discovery is designed to avoid crazy gotchas.
The only reason why it happened in this case is because Jones and his lawyers went out of their way to circumvent the Discovery process earlier on.
The funny thing is that if Jones' lawyers had just complied with Discovery, they would have had the chance to face the facts head on and try to spin them to Jones' advantage. Maybe even get some of them thrown out of the case on a technicality.
Now all they can do is stand there and take the kick to the nuts.
@@andrewb1921 Well at least it's appropriate that Mr. Jones managed to find lawyers who share his utter lack of competence and of responsibility while also acting fatally allergic to actual facts then. What a match made in Hell.
There’s more to this. I wonder if they are simply avoiding later criminal charges by taking a financial hit here regarding the hiding of documents.
Jones’ income far far exceeds any legal liability he’s likely to face. We have no idea if he gets his money from the NRA and Russia.
God the Poor judge looks so 150% _done_ with all of this. Her face screams "Once this is over, I will get blackout drunk and hopefully forget these last few days..."
Well considering the fact that Jones has made claims on his show during the trial that the judge is linked to a pedophilia ring because she previously worked with Child Protective Services….. yea, I would imagine that she is so ready to be done with this trial and Jones in particular.
are you kidding" she is a left wing activist that absolutely hates people like jones. she is loving this.
@@godw1ll99 Oh, she'll love the _sentence_ that comes out of it. but that won't make listening to this Puffed up Bullfrog any more pleasant.
Earlier in the trial, the plantifes attoneys presented evidance from Infowars that acuses that while working for the CPS, the presiding judge helped protect and enable peadphiles.
It was not a good look.
I think that's a same assumption after anyone who had to sit in close proximity of Alex Jones for days on end lol.
I was watching it live and couldn't believe what I was hearing. When opposing council reminds you that you can invoke the 5th amendment, you've done something horribly horribly wrong
If you don't take them on their advice to invoke the 5th, you're horribly, horribly dimwitted.
I can't help but feel the plaintiff attorney was testing Jones, seeing just how out of touch with reality he was, and probably did so many, many times previously and afterward, just to see the limits to this guy's stupidity. Even if you have a 200 IQ, when the OPPOSING council makes sure you know how to legally protect yourself but your ego prevents you from reading between the lines that you're in a hole and you should STOP digging downward, then you are, effectively, judgementally disabled. One of his kids, or his ex-wife, should request conservatorship over him.
It couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
The legal assistant I bet was fired! 😂
@@panchogonzales6409 my guy imagine their face when they found out their mistake
No one in the world felt better at that moment than that lawyer did when he said "Yes, Mr. Jones. Indeed "
That is the largest dopamine rush any human has ever recieved with out overdosing fatally on meth
"So you did get my text messages? You said you didn't. Nice trick."
"Oh yes Mr. Jones. Indeed."
The pure look of horror in Alex Jones' eyes
Alex: "Why did boss music just start playing?"
Jones couldn't see what was coming.... 🤣🤣 so satisfying...
the best part of the whole thing to me is that the Platiff's lawyers probably just searched "sandy hook" after they finished downloading.
This made me laugh so hard I started coughing like Alex Jones
And presumably took a screenshot of the first thing that came up, without even looking at it, and said to *their* legal assistant; "Print this.".
@@ZT1ST
Yeah sounds like basically as soon as the lawyers realized what they had they grabbed all of it and had it all printed out
@@artsyscrub3226think this was a joke about chatGPT. Bc “the plaintiffs lawyers… finished downloading”
@@VultureSkins Huh? What does that have to do with ChatGPT?
That "Yes Mr. Jones, indeed" was said just like a super villain. Epic
@@henryhammond7393 well, most Bond villains have the charisma to pull that off. Then again, how often do you have the chance to sound like a Bond villain? Charisma or not, you are taking that opportunity and _running_ with it.
Oh god yes, it sounded like one of those crazy rich villains that will hunt humans for sport in their private forest.
Jace, *😅For Democrats, why do your majority cities and states FOR DECADES have THE HIGHEST DRUG AND CRIME RATES?????????? Atlanta, Los Angeles, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, etc., and now San Francisco!!! What's your answer for that?????????? Trump-obsession?????? And why is it mostly DEMOCRATS (leftist BLM and Antifa) that burn cities, taunt and attack cops ON VIDEO, loot stores, destroy businesses, while claiming to be "peaceful protesters" and causing over an estimated 2 BILLION IN PROPERTY DAMAGES in 2020, alone??????* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jace, *Alex Jones is, of course, still on air, and he has an Amazon best-seller. 😅MUCH of what Alex says on his show is technically accurate. The dangers of the clot shot isn't fake news. The "Great Reset" that the World Economic Forum is pushing isn't fake news. The digital ID isn't fake news. The food shortages aren't fake news. The woke agenda isn't fake news. The fascist behavior of the Democratic Party isn't fake news. These are things that are in our faces, more and more each day, that even leftist mainstream media cannot hide forever.*
@@JutlandAngel Or in this case, a lawyer who is hunting the rare but prized "Absolute Buffoon".
one thing that doesn't show in the comments that I am living for is the Judge's expressions. She just looks so done with Jones and his counsel. _She_ knows how screwed they are. It's great.
I love how the judge is essentially screaming at them in lower case
Patrick, *Alex Jones is, of course, still on air, and he has an Amazon best-seller. 😅MUCH of what Alex says on his show is technically accurate. The dangers of the clot shot isn't fake news. The "Great Reset" that the World Economic Forum is pushing isn't fake news. The digital ID isn't fake news. The food shortages aren't fake news. The woke agenda isn't fake news. The fascist behavior of the Democratic Party isn't fake news. These are things that are in our faces, more and more each day, that even leftist mainstream media cannot hide forever...*
@@FilmSpook ok boomer
She seems so DONE with this shit. I feel sorry for her having to sit there and not just blow up at any time.
Lmao best comment
that is what I like about judges and legalise because they can be very pissed at you to the point where they are spitting hellfire and cursing but they can do in a perfectly proper and polite fashion. for me that is just hilarious especially when you have the legal know h ow to understand what the judge is actually saying
The best part of this is how LegalEagle is showing his love of lawyering by geeking out about another lawyer getting a cinematic moment.
I'm guessing most lawyers go their entire careers just dreaming of a moment like that.
@@ejonp And transcribers of court proceedings live for this as well. We sit there just hoping for these moments of glory. We don't usually get ones as dramatic as this, though, so some transcriber just had a very good day.
I think its the giddiest I've ever seen him in a video. This is an absolutely hilarious display of incompetence to anyone who knows even the most basic made-for-tv aspects of court. I can just imagine how much real lawyers with a full understanding are rolling around on the floor.
In general this whole rundown should not have happened, another channel talked about it. I want to say Lehto but the families lawyer went on TYT right after the trial for an interview so it may have been there. Both sides should be armed and ready but thanks to Alex side of being difficult in general and his legal teams screw ups what is normally tv drama happened in real life. I do agree watching Legaleagle getting psyched up for this is awesome, he does what he loves and it is clear in the video and his passion on this. He is watching a train wreck in motion and giving us a play by play as the mechanics fail and everything falls apart.
@@jbone665 It should not have, but its hardly uncommon. The only truly uncommon thing here is the "leak" of the documents.
But snubbing discovery is not a particularly uncommon tactic whenever "rich guy privilege" is involved. There's a lot of these folks who believe some combination of:
a) The jury will trust me because I have money.
b) And if that doesn't work, I have more money than the prosecution so I'll just drag it out until they can't afford to continue and are forced to settle if not outright drop the case.
And the worst part is, they're not wrong. This is especially true in criminal court where the burden of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt" (Jones was only facing civil charges, which have a much lower standard.)
That higher burden means both that the jury needs to trust you even less in order to convict, and that the prosecution needs to spend even more time and resources to present their case (while the defense can often get away with a weaker argument since they only have to sow doubt of guilt, rather than trying to "prove" innocence).
If Jones' lawyers hadn't screwed up so badly he would have likely gotten off with a slap on the wrist rather than the $49 million he was ultimately fined. It was just a civil case as noted, and he'd already been found liable, so that much wouldn't have changed. But I suspect the damages would have been drastically lower if the prosecution hadn't had such explicit evidence that Jones had been caught lying his ass off.
It's very peculiar how, as the lawyer who just screwed Jones springs the trap, that Jones' cough - which has been an intended annoyance through his entire testimony - just disappeared. Like magic. Jones should bottle his testimony, being caught in a lie, amd sell it as a cough suppressant.
Excellent point. I hadn't really caught that particular detail, as I was engrossed in the explanation, but in retrospect, I find your assertion absolutely compelling.
Jones has been digging this grave for TEN YEARS, he's got a LOOOOOOOT of height to fall down from before he hits the bottom. He better hope not to reach down into magma.
I was thinking the same thing...and pretty certain that water glass had been completely empty for some time.
Wow we found a cure for coughing.
@@MohamedYasser-zu2mk Great explantation!
I'm no expert, but I think if you're being cross examined, and the attorney actually LAUGHS at your testimony, that's probably one of the worst positions you can be in short of exposing yourself to the entire courtroom.
You left out one of the best parts. The plaintiff's attorney asking Jones "You have an iPhone, right? What does it mean when the messages are blue?" Right before he makes the Big Reveal. The look of horror on Jones' face as he realized what was going on? Exquisite.
Why does them being blue(iMessege instead of SMS) matter exactly?
@@bobafettjr85 I'm no techie, but I think blue means the texts went thru iMessage so are automatically uploaded (and saved/accessible?) in the cloud
@@bobafettjr85 He claimed he had multiple phones and those texts weren't on the phones he searched. They were iMessages. They were automatically downloaded to every phone.
@@bobafettjr85 It means that he sent them from that phone
And the brief look of shock on the judge's face. Priceless!
I love the absolute glee you can hear in plaintiff counsel as he's setting this whole thing up. He knows this is probably going to be the highlight of his career and he's gonna be telling the story how he absolutely murdered Jones on the stand for years to come.
I just hope he can also claim to get Jones off the air...🙏🏼🤞🏼
Its the little 'hehehe' he has just before anilating him. When you get to mockingly laugh at the person your examining...you know its good
Yeah, my dude was GIDDY. I loved that for him so much. May he be the hero of every cookout for years to come! "Let me tell you all about the time when I straight up murdered Alex Jones on the stand...."
I know he was skipping out of that courtroom, clicking his heels, squealing with glee.
If you wanna hear more from that lawyer, he was on the knowledge fight podcast. It's hilarious 😂
At the beginning, you can tell the Plaintiffs lawyer is just so happy knowing that the trial is being live-streamed, and that he’s about to deliver one of the most famous trial moments in American history lol.
American history? Really? Alex jones? Lol you’re crazy my friend.
That’s way too much credit
Your assessment may end up being true because what becomes famous America is often just people being downright stupid, but it really goes to show how gullible people are. ANY lawyer worth his degree would have slaughtered the plaintiff counsel's words and actions.
This is basically a 3rd rate ambulance chasing attorney, who was lucky enough to against some major idiot (OR CORRUPT) defense, and not blow it too badly. However the plaintiff counsel may have hung himself and the jury, guaranteeing Jones an appeal, as even the plaintiff admitted gleefully in excitement, "You'd attorney made a HUGE MISTAKE", meaning he knows good and well, Jones' attorney was selling Jones down the river.
The fight for civil rights had say more famous court moments.
Honestly I would probably be a terrible lawyer, but I'll still say the lawyer did not in my opinion do a good job making it such a big moment. Felt not that big af a deal to me.
as someone with adhd its so nice to see myself represented in the legal profession by alex jones lawyer
he’s already dead 😭😭
YOU'RE KILLING HIM 😂😂
Yeah id like to report this comment for a vicious murder
that's not ADHD.
You don't want to be him. You want to be Emily D. Baker
Imagine how tense the plaintiff's attorney was 9 days after receiving those files, counting down the minutes until they can light Alex Jones' ass on fire
@Nicholas Scott Hahahahhhhh..delicious Perry Mason moment!!! 😂😂👏👏
Of course even if the attorney had responded in time, the judge would get to see all the messages and decide if the privilege was warranted. And she would have correctly ruled much as she did here that these documents should have been given over anyway.
I know, right?! This is like a john Grisham moment, for real. Totally bananas but those awful POSs deserve every single thing that’s coming toward them, especially the defendant
Well said!!
Even if they were the pessimistic type expecting Jones' lawyer to ask them to disregard, they must have counted down and already prepared their next move like... if you are handed gold like that.
The judge's expressions are priceless. It's like she's listening to a law student make some excuses about why they can't turn in their paper.
She was so done with that shit.
Back when I was doing my Master of Divinity one of my professors made this comment about late papers: something ornate and Byzantine. He turned to the person teaching the person with him "Does beheading sound appropriate?" From the look on the judge's face, I am pretty certain Her Honour would have taken that as an option.
Unfortunately, "the dog ate my phone" is not a valid defense.
But apparently these lawyers think that "The dog ate my phone after I accidentally left it outside next to the dog kennel for ten days without doing anything about it" is a valid defense.
And this is after Alex called her a lesbian goblin pedophile on his show.
I like how the judge is just staring at the defense attorney like, "Are you for real bro?"
FullMetal, *Alex Jones is, of course, still on air, and he has an Amazon best-seller. 😅MUCH of what Alex says on his show is technically accurate. The dangers of the clot shot isn't fake news. The "Great Reset" that the World Economic Forum is pushing isn't fake news. The digital ID isn't fake news. The food shortages aren't fake news. The woke agenda isn't fake news. The fascist behavior of the Democratic Party isn't fake news. These are things that are in our faces, more and more each day, that even leftist mainstream media cannot hide forever...*
I feel bad for that judge you can see her rethinking her life decisions
Someone else described her as yelling In lower case
Nah, OP, she's just annoyed with him, but keeping it professional to make sure he doesn't have any grounds for appeal based on her. She's well aware of the cameras and is getting justice done.
"The man who acts as his own attorney has a fool for a client"
You know, 99% of the time, that's true.
But honestly, Jones couldn't really have done much worse if he'd had just represented himself.
Knowing him, I'm sure he would have managed.
@@joecope9935 I really don't think it's possible unless he also somehow sent a 300GB FILE containing all evidence needed against him without trying to claw it back.
Yes I'm wondering if he can claim from his lawyer's insurance for incompetence.
You be fair, either way it's a fool for a client
With Jones you know he would blow it eventually regardless of who his lawyer was.
You know you are screwed when the writers of Law and Order think it is too stupid to be believed.
Agreed, this would be more like an Ally McBeal or Boston Legal type case
“The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.”
@@charliemason4355 that’s an interesting qoute, where did it come from?
@@magimariJY Dad said you can't make this up
I don't believe that part I know TV series and F me they are a lot dumber than this case
"Do you know what Perjury is" and "I need you to know you can assert your 5th amendment right" are priceless lines.
All these jokes float around "pleading the fifth" but when it's actually relevant everyone forgets
@@JoaoPessoa86 People want to defend themselves. Taking the fifth can be a lot harder than people think. It's like 'Not talking to the police.' You think you know it, right up until the police actually try and get you to talk.
My personal favorite was, "Indeed, Mr. Jones," simply because of how happy he sounded saying that.
@@jacob5169 Acting like a proper villain (except you know, being the good guy here) and I absolutely love him for it 😂
The people saying he deserves any fines or jail time are just straight up wrong. Dehumanizing this man is seen as okay because he's Opponent Scum to you guys? Or do you just try to not think to hard about anything that the Allies have already thought for you?
I’d watch an interview with the world’s most fired legal assistant.
That judge just RADIATED "i'm surrounded by idiots" energy.
Love her.
I'm betting part of her brain was busy reciting
"Don't cheer for the prosecution... Don't cheer for the prosecution..."
Just trying to be patient with it all lol
Reminds me of the time when my stupid dad got arrested for having a handgun in his car when we were crossing the border to visit Canada. As both the border guards and I were at the stands testifying about the arrest, the guard claimed they had photographed and confiscated the box of bullets that was with the gun. I then said to the judge that they hadn't actually confiscated the bullets but left the bullets sitting on the passenger seat. The look of disgust on the judges face at their incompetence was priceless! It was my favorite part of a really crappy situation.
It reminds me of it’s always sunny in Philadelphia
Based on other clips I have seen of her talking to Alex Jones... I am inclined to agree.
Devin usually: I am a good lawyer boy, who always presents my biases in the most professional way possible while working. I am a paragon of composure.
Devin watching Alex get pinned down like a bug: _giggling uncontrollably, having the time of his life_
*I love it.*
This needs more upvotes
There comes a point, when a bias is so great, and so *richly* deserved, that you need not say it.
I just can't wait to see Devin's reaction to the FBI at Mar-A-Lago (with the DEA soon to be involved, maybe)
@@eastportland lmao I love how he beams when he covers trump and other anti-fash news developments. So heartwarming.
So long story short, Alex Jones broke the top 3 rules you never do in court!
1. Lie and mess with the discovery process
2. Throw your own Lawyer under the bus
3. DON’T PISS OFF THE JUDGE!!
If only he'd gone into the well and got tackled by the bailiff for the full set
2. was 100% justified here. If his assistant sends out your entire data dump to opposing council and for some reason doesn't claw it back, you better throw them under the bus.
The plaintiff also played a clip where Alex Jones claims the judge and jury "don't know what planet they are on". This is supposed to be insulting but I just find it funny for some reason.
@@marceldiezasch6192 There's virtually nothing they could do at that point. None of the relevant documents would be granted privilege. They were ordered to be produced long ago. They could've gotten privilege for other stuff unrelated to the case. But that wouldn't save this data from other law enforcement that's now requesting it. Once it is known to exist, it's kind of over.
4. Never refer to opposing counsel as Perry Mason.
The judge's reply at the end was the most civil way I've ever seen someone be completely eviscerated
The attorney chuckling and saying "indeed" is so hilarious
I love Mark Bankston’s “yes, Mr Jones” and “ok, Mr Jones” said with that chuckle throughout the trial and in the earlier proceedings. Check out the Knowledge Fight podcast’s coverage, including multiple interviews with the plaintiff’s attorneys in the year or so leading up to this.
I wonder if the attorney had visions of Sherlock Holmes while saying it. I did lol
Was literally the best part. "Hmmmhmmmhmm...yes, Mr. Jones" lmao
It was so ominous lmao
That's one of those moments in Anime where you fix your glasses with your middle finger. "Indeed. Ha ha ha! You fool!"
When being cross examined, the lawyer reminds you of your 5th amendment rights, you should be hearing alarm bells going off in your head. What's more is that your lawyer should be doing something at this point, ANYTHING but sitting there quietly.
I guess Jones' lawyer is getting paid anyway, so he is just riding the wave now.
Wouldn't this be grounds for a mistrial, or at a minimum, good reasoning for an appeal? This defense attorney basically did his worst and didn't represent his client to the best of his ability, it seems...
@@tonis5140 If it were a criminal trial, yes, that would be a good reason for an appeal. Fortunately, this is a civil trial.
@@tonis5140 Nope. As the judge already pointed out: if incompetence is a ground for mistrial, the defenses would never lose. Because they can always create such scenario whenever thing doesn't go their way.
@@tonis5140 Besides, the defense is legally required to disclose those text messages to the plaintiff A YEAR AGO. The fact that they acidently reveal something they are required by laws to provide is not exactly a good argument for an appeal either.
This went far beyond Law & Order style writing and plunged head-first into Pheonix Wright territory!! The only thing the plaintiff was missing was pounding his hands on the podium and dramatically pointing at the defendant!! "OBJECTION!!!"
can we just be honest here? anyone pursuing a career in this stuff is a complete waste. do something useful and dont go into "law"
@@Blox117 Roe V Wade was just overturned you absolute MUPPET.
@@beezusHrist | What did Roe v Wade have to do with Blox's post?
@@RaceBandit are we in idiocracy now or what??? YOU figure that one out on your own, sport.
@@RaceBandit haha your guess is as good as mine!
I love how the judge sounds like she’s talking to preschoolers whenever she addresses Jones or his attorneys. It’s just so perfect!
I don’t care how much you hate Jones, she is to close to be the judge for this trial. Similar to how you are not allowed to be on a jury if you are close, she is biased clearly and should have never even been considered for this trial. What’s worse, is every single one of you in the comments is far to the ignorant to know that yet you clearly know so much. Ironic.
@@frodejotnar9899 Why's that, exactly? Genuinely curious.
Jones is an adult child tho
@@frodejotnar9899educate us. What’s your scoop?
@@frodejotnar9899close in what way and close to who? If you want to actually prove a point, maybe you should. I don't know provide actual evidence instead of meaningless words. I could say every single person on this planet is related and that would be true just as true as saying every life form on this planet is related but that doesn't mean much, It means about as much as your statement though
One thing you overlooked: Jones's attorney had the private medical and psychological records of the plaintiffs of Jones's other trial in Connecticut. *Reynaul was not allowed to have these files and now has to go to Connecticut to explain to the judge there why he shouldn't be sanctioned for his actions.* He's so screwed.
Wow, Mr. Pattis who is Jones lawyer in Connecticut had apparently forwarded an entire directory of files to Jones lawyer representing him in this case in Texas whose office then forwarded it to the plaintiff's attorney who notified him without saying specifically the files contained confedential and restricted information specifically court ordered NOT to be shared with Jones. 1 mistake in a huge case is maybe a mistake but that is 2 huge mistakes and makes me think Jones had pissed off multiple people in more than 1 law office who 'accidentally' overshared some files. Both of Jones lawyers messed up in different ways but the sequence of events here is pretty astounding.
@@AlanLamb11 Every new thread of detail I hear about these cases, the more of a comedic death spiral of fractal incompetence it all becomes. I love it.
@@AlwaysANemesis I'm with you 🍿
Where the hell does Jones find these lawyers? Did they both have offices in random strip-malls where he happened to stop for a box of doughnuts? Or are they the only lawyers he could find who were willing to take his case?
@@allanmason3201 Let's face it, even Lionel Hutz wouldn't make these mistakes.
"You know what perjury is, right?" I couldn't help but laugh at this, the prosecutor was having an absolute field day.
People who go to law school DREAM about getting a chance to do this in court, for a high-profile case.
The man was quite literally living the dream.
I'm picturing him giggling to himself on his commute into court that day.
Law grad here. This was insane, literally geeked out at this cross
WHEN HE REMINDED HIM OF HIS FIFTH AMENDMENT RIGHTS
AMAZING
You mean the plaintiff's lawyers?
I work with Professional Liability insurance (E&O and Malpractice) and when I heard about this colossal screwup, I had to double check and make sure Mr. Jones's attorney isn't one of our clients. He's not, thank goodness.
I wonder... I know that in some cases, if a lawyer screws up badly enough a former client can sue their former lawyer for the damages that the client had to pay in the original case. I dont think I've ever heard of it actually happening - it was a hypothetical situation brought up by a lawyer commenting about a default judgement in a different case - but I have to wonder if an insurance company could end up getting stuck with the bill at the end of the day.
That would be kind of crazy.
At many such firms, I imagine loud sighs of relief are being issued, save one firm.
At that firm, the sound heard was more likely that of clean trousers being made violently necessary.
Lord, *😅For Democrats, why do your majority cities and states FOR DECADES have THE HIGHEST DRUG AND CRIME RATES?????????? Atlanta, Los Angeles, Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, etc., and now San Francisco!!! What's your answer for that?????????? Trump-obsession?????? And why is it mostly DEMOCRATS (leftist BLM and Antifa) that burn cities, taunt and attack cops ON VIDEO, loot stores, destroy businesses, while claiming to be "peaceful protesters" and causing over an estimated 2 BILLION IN PROPERTY DAMAGES in 2020, alone??????* 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@FilmSpook I'm not exactly sure why you are replying on this comment thread with a comment that has nothing to do with it, but funnily enough, I do have an answer for you.
Crime, in general, correlates heavily with population density. Similarly, there is a correlation between whether a person lives in an urban or rural environment and their voting habits.
That is the first part, but the second is that - for a whole host of reasons I won't get into here - NIMBY sentiments are pretty common among urban Democrats. And yes, I am fully aware that makes them at best slightly hypocritical, but I dont think anyone is arguing that anyone is perfect.
Regardless, the end result is you have spiking housing prices in a highly dense environment that has an influx of population. Crime is inevitable unless people are either prevented from moving in or neighborhoods are forced to allow construction, but that obviously tramples over the freedom of the people themselves.
As for the various riots, to be honest I dont care very much. 15 years ago, I would have been pretty supportive of police putting them down, and supportive of the police in general. This was before I saw the data which showed, despite the platitudes we like to preach about freedom and equality, a lot of people _dont get either._ and to be clear, I am personally in favor of achieving equality not by lessening the scrutiny that minorities face, but by increasing the scrutiny everyone else faces to match it.
Although, I will point out that if we are talking about recent riots, it wasnt Democrats who attempted to lynch a Vice President.
Lord Bloodraven, *Alex Jones is, of course, still on air, and he has an Amazon best-seller. 😅MUCH of what Alex says on his show is technically accurate. The dangers of the clot shot isn't fake news. The "Great Reset" that the World Economic Forum is pushing isn't fake news. The digital ID isn't fake news. The food shortages aren't fake news. The woke agenda isn't fake news. The fascist behavior of the Democratic Party isn't fake news. These are things that are in our faces, more and more each day, that even leftist mainstream media cannot hide forever.*
Not only was he completely demolished in this trial, but there's a chance he can get screwed AGAIN if any of those text messages have to do with the Jan. 6th riots??? This is just too unbelievable. 🤣🤣🤣
This comment didn't age well...
@@C4RP3_N0CT3M
This comment aged very well.
I wanted to turn it off but bro you kept explaining what was happening so well I couldn't. I have zero knowledge about legal practice. I felt included the entire time. A lot of the time when someone knows they have more education they'll talk circles around you and keep you confused. This was informative, concise and I really enjoyed watching
If you want to know something about the Law, know this. Alex Jones lives in Texas. The maximum civil penalty for ANY case, including near $1 billion in damages to the families of Sandy Hook Elementary, is only $1 million in compensatory, general, and punitive damages, total. That's it. Texas state law. So, good luck and have fun suing him...
May I just say: I don't think most people are intentionally trying to talk circles around others without the same education/experience/ability as they have. Until someone says they need you to reword what you're saying, most people probably assume the person they're speaking to understands. This idea that people are intentionally mean when people aren't telling them what they need is unhealthy for all of us, I feel.
@@tonis5140 I totally get that and agree. Thank you for that perspective 🤙🏽
@@tonis5140 Yeah sometimes people get too used to speaking with other people in their field that they kind of forget that the jargon is jargon and not like regular vocabulary. That's kind of the difference between an expert and a teacher.
I was about to lose my sh*t at the accusation about mannequins be used to fake patient numbers because I've spent 2 years busting my tail helping where I can, even if it means just helping a patient to the bathroom so the nurse can sit for five minutes and eat a snack. I'm feeling burnt out and I haven't even graduated from medical school yet. Five minutes later, and I did lose my sh*t, except I was laughing instead of ranting.
I'm glad that you help out the Emergency Room nurses because they are oftentimes so worn out and exhausted that it's a miracle none of them collapse.
2:50 I had to re-watch it to confirm that the lawyer did in fact hand that document to Alex Jones the right way up. Alex then looked at it, and flipped it upside down LOL
No it was upside down. I've seen the full page. It's a mess. And goes from right to left.
@@badda_boom8017 mmmmmhmmmmmm
It looks to me like the lawyer initially laid it sort of diagonal, and then sort of started twisting it to be facing jones and then jones without really looking kept spinning it in the same direction not realizing that the lawyer had already straightened it out.
LOL so funny! Thank u for pointing that out :)
Btw sorry for being dum but what is the thing he is actually in court for? I only heard them talking about sending some text messages
my favorite part is when he reminds alex jones that he can invoke his fifth amendment right before asking a question. absolutely ruthless. i love it.
The 5th Amendment is only a shield in criminal prosecution. Pleading the 5th cam be taken in a civil case as an admission of liability.
LegalEagle: "Crazy gotchas only happen in movies"
Law & Order Producers: "This is too unrealistic to put into a movie"
Weird that this is "too unrealistic" for the people who made MULTIPLE episodes that all say "video games are the spawn of Satan", a claim based on half-truths and outright lies.
@@troyjardine5850- As I recall, those claims were made by defense attorneys. The one that attempted to use Gamergate was just stupid.
Yep, that's where the term 'stranger than fiction' comes from. There are things that happen in real life that would be considered 'bad writing' because they come across as implausible. They do tend to work when the story is indicated as being 'based on true events' though.
@@troyjardine5850 You realize those episodes were drawn from real life politicians in the 90s trying to outlaw video games, right? RIGHT??? It's called art imitating life.
The same thing happened to the show Mr. Robot. "It's not possible for someone to be this stupid." Next day. "I guess it is possible." Eventually it was anything goes. Eventually it worried me that Trump was getting his ideas from the show.
That lawyer's name should make history. How the hell you manage to make sure your client lose so bad that they now face criminal charges in a civil trial.
F. Andino Reynal, Esq. is the defense attorney.
No, Jones is the one committing perjury that's not the lawyers fault it just might be the lawyers fault he got caught
another funny moment was when AJ's attorney literally flipped off the plantif's attorney...
Yep. It's so delightful, there really should be a reward for that sort of thing. Legal procedure version of "Darwin Award".
@@ladygeneveve3805 Lawyers have ethic rules they must follow and the his Lawyer knew he was lying. The lawyer sent the text and still let Jones lie on the stand
My grandma always said to never laugh at the misfortune of others, because you never know if you will be in their shoes.
Luckily, I will never cause persistent trauma to grieving families through my lies and deception 👍
I was so excited because this trial actually had a bombshell, and I thought that never happened in real court. Lol
right?? it feels like a TV show "BOOM" moment that makes the viewers burst out in gasps and luaghter.
You mean like what Epstein did? With the Clintons?
Well, that's because if everything goes normally, stuff like this never happens. Of course, this didn't go normally. :)
If you have real lawyers, it doesn't happen.
@@RPGgrenade You could actually feel the lawyer going, "Holy shit this _really is_ my Perry Mason moment, but play it cool son, play it cool... act like you been here before..."
"I've never seen this text message"
I actually laughed.
He knows at that point he's exposed and his instinctual response is to lie. Like always.
yes but at that point he didn't even realize how screwed he was. The jan.6 committee requesting the files and the actual breadth of the files along with his texts wasn't even mentioned yet. This has to have some of his contacts pretty scared too lol
Lying when caught doing something bad is a common response in children and adults who aren’t very mature.
@@orangutantapioca1530 jajajajajajaja
"never seen this text message"
well that's impressive that you are able to respond to text messages without seeing them. 😂
Because he has to keep face.
In the world he and his viewers live in it stands totally within reason that some wacky conspiracy would just manufacture a fake text message to screw him over.
After all, how else is he going to pay for his legal costs if not with the hard earned money he reaps from his followers?
This is pretty great, watching someone with a deep knowledge of the law pick apart a botched and inept defense. It's pretty obvious to you what they did wrong, to the point where it's almost comical, but for a layman like myself who knows very little about the legal process, it helps for someone to explain exactly how the defense dropped the ball on this case.
The bigger advantage for me as someone for who neither English nor legalese is the first language, it makes it so much easier to understand what is being said as the sound from the courtroom isn't always that understandable.
I am a lawyer.
Legal eagle is misinformed on almost everything he is saying.
I think Jones has a habit of allying himself with people that just don't have his best interests in mind as well as running his mouth without thinking. It is almost as if playing a raving conservative conspiracy theorist that constantly pretends his business is on the verge of bankruptcy might backfire.
When I first heard about this I interpreted it is “we accidentally handed the other side everything we said we don’t have and then forgot to get it back. A part of me kept thinking that it can’t be that dumb, but it kinda seems like that’s exactly what happened
Not so much dropped the ball as punted it completely out of the stadium
It's looking like a "Phoenix Wright level" trial, but the decisive witness is also the defendant and Payne (the prosecutor tutorial that always lose) was assigned as his lawyer lol
😂 yessssssss
I love the legal argument "I'm so incompetent that I call for a mistrial". Oh boy if it ever worked that way. Imagine every competent defense attorney who realizes he is losing a case, deliberately screwing up bad and then calling for a mistrial. I think I'd want my lawyer to do that every time, even if he thinks he's winning the case. Just keep getting a mistrial until the DA runs out of time, money, patience, and just gives up.
The legal equivalent of drawing a foul to break up a play.
I know, it's perfect. "I call for a mistrial." "Why?" "I'm losing this one!"
"I want a mistrial, your honor."
"What reason? "
"If I knew the reason, I'd be a better lawyer, and I probably wouldn't be asking for this mistrial!"
“I call for bad Court thingy.”
I object!
On what grounds?
Because it's devastating to my case!
I can’t fathom how nervous the lawyer was waiting for the 10 days to expire from the defense.
Probably barely slept
I can fathom the moment he got the all clear that it did expire lol 😆
@@brad777luck The clouds parted, angels sang, and he danced a dance of "holy shit that actually happened!" is my guess
@@xger21 lit a cigar and drank a 500 y/o bottle of scotch
@@brad777luck The moment from the original Jurassic Park, John Hammond steals the champagne and pops the cork:
"We were saving that!"
"You were. For today."
In Texas, if an attorney inadvertently receives privileged information, he must promptly notify the attorney from whom he received it. Then, within 10 days, the sending attorney must create a "privilege log"--a list of the items inadvertently sent that are covered by attorney-client privilege. Anything in the log cannot be relied on in any proceeding and must be destroyed.
Here, plaintiffs' attorney notified Jones' lawyer. But Jones' lawyer did not create a privilege log.
The texts were unprivileged communications with non-lawyers that were requested in discovery. They weren't produced because Jones lied under oath that he searched through his phone and did not have them.
That perjury prevented Jones' lawyer from creating a "privilege log" after the inadvertent disclosure of the texts.
Lawyers aren't allowed to assist in a violation of law, and any argument/defense they raise must be "consistent with the truth." By creating a "privilege log" or otherwise trying to make confidential what was inadvertently sent, Jones' lawyer would necessarily be covering up Jones' perjury, thereby violating the just mentioned rules of professional conduct.
It was clearly malpractice for Jones' lawyer to disclose texts. But ultimately, Jones' perjury was what prevented his lawyer from protecting him.
good summary!
Jones lawyer didn't want to take the time to go through each file to redact it from discovery. The judge schooled him too telling him if he did his job a year ago then it wouldn't be an issue now. Sloppy lawyer just like Alex Jones.
in this case alex jones' attorney didn't even care 🤣
texas is also really corrupt but thats another story.
What about a third party, such as the local district attorney?
Who I surmise might be looking at alex for perjury and his lawyer for subornation of perjury.
It could easily be argued that the material in question being subjectable to a search warrant by the DA for the crime of perjury by Alex Jones would preempt any applicable privilege claims for a civil case.
As for covering up perjury, IIRC that's more than a rule of professional conduct, that's a crime itself, called subornation of perjury.
If the lawyer had assisted he'd have been committing a crime of moral turpitude and getting disbarred would have been not only a foregone conclusion (assuming he got caught) but also the least of his worries compared to a felony conviction of his own.
Honestly, the judge's face is an entire mood
Home girl was checked out
She is all of us who are so sick of lying pundits and conspiracist morons who break the law.
I’ve had to be a witness in lawsuits a few times. I was a minor peon, so didn’t much prep time from my company’s lawyers. Literally 50% of my prep was being told “do not lie,” “anything else can be fixed, but a single lie will kill us,” etc.
Had a friend who preps witnesses say the same thing. Truth can hurt but a lie always kills.
I am honestly shocked that something this lawyer said was an actual fact.
Luckily, he then had to be reprimanded by the judge *several times* for lying to the jury, which aligns much better with my expectations based on his opening statement.
Of course. You'll lose all credibility with a single lie. 1 lie overpowers a thousand honest statements.
Yep. But its a little more than that too. A friend of mine is a criminal lawyer and said he always tell clients at the start "If you confess that you did this, I have to tell the court that. But we can still find ways to make it work. But if you dont want me to tell the court that, then you shouldnt tell me that and instead tell me you refuse to answer that question and we can make that work too. But just dont lie to me and most of all dont expect me to lie.
a few times? let me guess: you're over 50
When you have law and order writers saying “it’s too dumb to write” I laughed because I’m thinking days ago Would law and order make this into a story and this basically answered it
Law and Order claims it was too dumb to write, but that never stopped them in the past.
@@orkleth yeah they've made episodes like these before
@@mauropereira187 but not to this extent. This is event will likely get Jones's lawyers disbarred. And Jones will probably sue them once this trial is over.
@@James1987nh yeah I e seen stupid low and order cases but this One is just so crazy. Like they be better off doing the Amber Herd case then anything
That awkward moment when the argument of the respondent turns into: "Yes I lied under oath, but you shouldn't be allowed to know that!"
"And I would have gotten away with it if it weren't for you meddling kids!"
@@vez3834 🤣 What's even more bizarre is this corrupt clown still has droves of conspiracy theorists following him as some kind of all wise hero... So many right wing loonies just cling for dear life to their batshitinsane, lying, corrupt "heroes" no matter what, purely because their petty mind can't bear even the thought of admitting they were wrong - total cowardly egos. Ironically, the strongest minds admit when they've been wrong, change their ideas and move on - which takes real integrity and courage.
Let me guess, when a cop illegally acquires evidence against you then it's different
yea called fruit of a rotten tree
@@vinslungur Yes, actually it is. This was not a cop illegally acquiring evidence. This was a plaintiff's attorney in a civil matter acquiring evidence through the incompetence of the defense attorney. Period. Totally different scenario.
Alex Jones on the stand could be described as a child who got caught after the fact.
Mother: Why didn't you cooperate with telling me about what happened?
Alex: I knew you'd find out anyways, so I am cooperating.
Then the mom counters with: "If you knew I'd find out, then why didn't you tell me earlier anyways."
It makes me think there were probably far worse things in those documents, but the smart lawyer used the text message history because it was something he was supposed to have already.
Except it would be malpractice for him to not end up using the most damaging of it for his clients.
So almost certainly, the worst things on there about sandy hook were presented.
So a missed incoming message mentioning sandy hook, but not even about it.
@@mikemck4796 It wouldn't be malpractice because he avoided any chance of using privileged information. He knew they were going to try to get the case thrown out so it was better to be cautious
@@MtnNerd spot on
You could almost hear him holding back when talking about the text message.
@@MtnNerd It was likely the worst of his text messages to people. I’m sure he and his attorneys have said some callous shit to eachother about the people suing him.
Thanks for explaining why saying "please disregard" doesn't actually obligate the other attorney to disregard the documents and the procedure involved in forcing the other attorney to disregard individual documents in a case by case basis.
Legal-Eagle's Friend Hbomberguy has to be mentioned once again, as Alex Jones was roasted well and roasted fine by Hbomberguys Video about the 'War on Christmas':
@@loturzelrestaurant They’re friends? That would be the coolest thing.
@@jessehammer123 !!
Yeah not according to some case law regarding 193.3(d). A letter was sufficient there and the SC ruling was in favor of jones. Judge is biased and did not properly apply the statute. Dudes analysis is extremely biased and uneducated. He is essentially taking all the plaintiffs allegations as fact. Disregarding a lot of stuff too.
“Please disregard”
“…. No.”
I envy that prosecutor so much. Only a few times do you ever get to absolutely obliterate someone like that and he did it in one of the most high profile legal battles of the decade.
he is radiating this energy in every sentence! He loves what he does. :D
Technically it's not a prosecutor, those only are in criminal cases
@@danielf.7151 shut up nerd
@@danielf.7151 True, but they might make him an honorary one though after Jones goes to federal prison when whatever idiotic sh*t he did on 1/6 comes out 😂
Not just that hearing, but the treasure trove of funny shit that he has in possession now. Like the alleged intimate photo of Alex's wife sent to Roger Stone.
This is the equivalent of sending your entire playbook, starting lineup, signals, and strategy to your opponent two days before the super bowl. Alex Jones deserved this, and I'm glad he went out in such a comedic fashion.
It's funny you say this because in the lead up to Super Bowl 37, Jon Gruden, who was head coach for the Bucs, had previously been the head coach for their opponents, the Raiders. While watching film to create a game plan, Gruden realized that all the audible calls, hand signals, and whatever else on offense all remained the same under Gruden's successor, Bill Callahan. Gruden then spent the entire week before the Super Bowl telling the Bucs' defensive players what each signal and audible meant. The Bucs won the Super Bowl 48-21.
With him saying it was a Perry Mason moment, and with his lawyer's malpractice, you just know that he's going to hold off on payment as long as he can, say the entire trial was rigged, and that it's somehow proof of his claims
He's already been trying to claim bankruptcy by moving his money to multiple shell companies, per an article August 5th by the NYTimes.
What malpractice, exactly, are you referring to?
They'll take this judgement straight to the court that's hearing his bankruptcy case and seek satisfaction of the balance there. That court might even decide limits set on judgements out of Texas are inapplicable and require the full sum to be paid, not the capped amount.
I wonder if this is on purpose. Throwing the trial so he can try again, but actually comply with discovery to try to get a not liable judgement.
I've seen many, many Perry Mason episodes. Every such Perry Mason "moment" consisted of the guilty party, who turns out not to be the defendant, standing up to make his tearful confession. The fact that Alex Jones, the actual guilty party, happens also to be the defendant makes this an ANTI Perry Mason moment.
“Hmhmhm, yes mr Jones, indeed” is such a funny line I can’t believe it’s in a real trial, and also so incredibly appropriate for what comes next
You'd think it was an embellishment from a dramatization. That's one for the books.
Lol, that moment sounds so Bond-villain-copycat-esque. I had mental images of the lawyer twirling his moustache.
This will now replace "You can't handle the truth!" As most iconic courtroom line.
All while pulling at the corner of his waxed mustache.
Never thought I'd hear a lawyer actually chortle in court. Yet here we are.
Man, you need to watch more Legal Eagle videos, especially the shorts! :)
It's too damn rich, I can understand why he couldn't hold back.
Plaintiff counsel was just all too delighted to be there probably having the best day of his career. I wonder how it feels knowing this was probably the best line of questioning he will ever deliver?
@@johnathanhughes9881 whenever I see the word chortle, I think of Fawful from Bowser’s Inside Story
@@naturegirl1999 Well the prosecuting attorney certainly put the mustard of doom on Alex Jones :)
Alex Jones may actually be able to appeal on the basis of inadequate council, his lawyers were so bad.
I don't think he'd be nearly smart enough to figure that out lol
Alas, recent SC rulings nixed that option even if it had been an option. That said, fairly sure that inadequate council appeals primarily work for appeals on Criminal cases (where this was a Civil case) in which council was assigned, not personally hired such as Reynauld was by Jones. As for the Supreme Court bit, they recently ruled that Federal Courts are not obligated to supersede and overturn the verdict of a State court for a state level crime during appeal (even though that is in fact one of the original duties of the Supreme Court)
He will not be able to appeal because this was a post trial hearing. Jones already lost the original case by refusing to attend and attempting to ignore it. If at any point you hear him talking about being denied his rights, remember that he had 4 years before this hearing to present his case and defend himself, he simply chose not to.
I can only imagine the plaintiff's legal team for those 10 days after they first realized what they'd actually been sent. You're basically in the middle of trial and you get handed this goldmine of pretty much everything you could ask for, which somehow doesn't seem to be being clawed back, but you know you have to sit on it for the next 10 days and hope you don't get that key notification during that time. Just a few more days, just a few more days, and then you can actually use it... The pent up anticipation (and the jubilation when that 10th day passed) must have been beyond belief.
And of course that whole time then they probably had a whole team of people sifting through the whole thing to try to figure out exactly what they could get out of it as fast as humanly possible (and probably still do).. I would not be surprised if there ends up being a lot more surprise evidence introduced in the coming days/weeks out of all of this. This could get even more interesting from here..
They should have to disclose all Champagne purchases during these 10 days.
as a paralegal, I would have gladly worked unpaid overtime and slept in the office to go through all of those files in time.
@@kaki4forks or paid overtime? Why sacrifice your well-being to further enrich CEOs?
They also probably spent a lot of time strategising what they could do in the event of the defendant's Council following up in those 10 days claiming privilege, fighting for every document they wanted for their case because a lot of it shouldn't be covered by privilege, and quintuple checking the rules around inadvertent disclosure.
They were likely stunned when the defendant's council didn't follow up at all, probably expecting at least some attempt to prevent this disclosure from entering.
@@GarethKing1 This is one of those special times that unpaid overtime and sleeping in the office will do more for your career than potentially YEARS of work otherwise. The amount you can learn from the lawyers around you, the satisfaction of knowing you helped grieving families, and the bragging rights that you worked this case (even as a paralegal or intern) could absolutely be worth it. Especially if it is only 10 days.
For a guy that loves 'exposing the truth', Alex sure loves hiding it.
He likes to "expose" the "truth".
Alex Jones never once mentioned this
But he named the area where his legs meet truth.
@@humanistwriting5477 I'm very happy he's sitting down under a desk when he's telling people "the truth it out" in that case.
People like that usually do.
Everything alex has ever said about sandy hook is viewable to the public, and always has been. All his shows are archived and are viewable at any moment anyone needs to view them.
Maybe his lawyers were trying that “bury them in discovery” thing, and they did it really, REALLY wrong.
Yaa, bury them in discovery isn't going to work well when text search is a thing, oh and making every item a picture won't work either because of OCR technology.
Either that or they intend to cause a mistrial and they’ll appeal based on that until they hit a favorable judge (or Trump’s pet SCOTUS).
Then they can claim to be the victim of an activist judge and make any discussion of the Jones trial about that victimhood rather than him getting caught red handed in painfully obvious lies.
I worked for a consulting firm providing expert witness testimony and burying in discovery isn't a real thing. The firm will hire plenty of temps to digitize and database anything that may be relevant
I personally think he pulled a Snowden and did it intentionally, because most lawyers are better people than Jones.
@@stephenchurch1784 I think it used to be more of a thing years ago, even decades, when everything was paper, with no other choice.
Bit harder to pull off now when basic OCR technology is free and reliable.
Sometimes I come back and rewatch this video just to remind myself that there is justice in the world.
same❤️
"Your honor, we move for a mistrial on the grounds that our client looks way too guilty."
If I was the judge I'd be more interested in pressing charges against alex jones for perjury before I decide to do anything with the case itself.
This court isn´t for guilt.
Itś for damages.
His prior guilty verdict was "Defaulted" because Alex refused to accept a supena....the 5th? Mind you they fufilled the prior 4. They already had everything. Its legal harassment. To "Slay the Dragon!".
But Alex can just go into a store and buy a camera for 200 dollars....And start uploading on Rumble.
Believe me, when and if this reaches the supreme court, the judge will be reprimanded and Alex will receive a mistrial.
They are going to Bill Cosby away ANY guilt Alex actually has.
Bloody morons.
And this TV show theyre shooting DURING this? will only go on to support Alex´s Appeal
It should be a mistrial on the grounds the judge is MASSIVELY biassed against the defendant and is actively doing everything she can to silence him despite his rights.
@@elyrienvalkyr lmao
@@elyrienvalkyr Silence him? His own testimony on the stand was contradictory to the evidence given by his attorney. He's done nothing but talk and it's gotten him in nothing but trouble. When directly offered the opportunity to plead the fifth in the context of a perjury accusation, he waived it and kept on talking.
IDK how on EARTH they find ppl unbiased enough to sit on a jury for his trials. He’s just so disgusting.
Huh?
I mean, who in their right mind would defend this jerk?
They probably can’t- however they can find people who can focus just on the facts given and put their own opinion aside
@@davidmaitland3238 That's not what he got prosecuted for. You're an excellent example of what would make one a biased juror. You're ignoring the facts of the case and claiming something else entirely. He was found guilty of defamation and that's not an easy bar to clear in the US. Free speech doesn't mean you can go around lying about people.
Defamation requires four things according to Cornell Law School:
1) a false statement purporting to be fact;
2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person;
3) fault amounting to at least negligence;
4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject of the statement.
He was found to have done all four of these things. The fact is he did write untrue statements about the parents of people whose kids died during Sandy Hook and those lies did result in the loonies who believed him harassing and ruining their lives further when they're trying to mourn their dead children. Publishing something so blatantly false to people he knew would believe it is negligence at best.
I'd also point out a good chunk of that information he was trying to withhold he lied about existing and was actually pertinent to the case.
@@davidmaitland3238aside from the fact that he didn't get prosecuted for free speech like the person above me explained ... why do you think he isn't liked? Because he's a disgusting pos who perverts the right of freedom of speech constantly to spread lies and unfounded conspiracy theories. Freedom of speech is supposed to be for political discourse, not publicly lie in the worst way about mourning parents.
My friend had an honest to god perry mason moment. He was being framed by the local police where he lived. They illegally searched his house without a warrant, and placed a large amount of drugs in his house. They then claimed he was a drug dealer. He fought it obviously and it went to court. His perry mason moment was when he realized the hidden security cameras he had installed THAT DAY had actually be turned on and filmed the entire thing! He had video plainclothes detectives breaking into his house and planting drugs. i saw the video with my own eyeballs and it was like something out of a bad movie. needless to say, he won the case AND MOVED. You can't really live in a city where the cops literally want you dead. nothing happened to the cops of course.
I wish I could accurately convey how my face looks right now because goddamn! :O
Both sides get to see evidence before it goes to trial. Why didn’t the police change their allegations when previewing the evidence?
Got any proof? Chuck the footage up on TH-cam, I wanna see this shit
@@SarahSmith-cq2ke Don't spoil the nice story :)
@@SarahSmith-cq2ke What do you change your allegation to? "we think hes just drug smuggling now?"
Alright, so…never mind the $1B, how is Jones not on criminal trial for perjury now? Like it’s been proven beyond a doubt that he did lie under oath, no?