Everything GREAT About Raya and the Last Dragon!
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I like how the Tail chief died. She didn't just get turned into stone and come back with the rest. She hid herself behind a fortress and slowly wasted away because she was too paranoid to trust anyone else further reinforcing the message in this movie
I just find the fact you said "I like how the Tail chief died." so bluntly very funny to me. 🤣😂😁
@@ThisFaceWasMadeForRADIO their pfp matches too 💀
They said she actually died from her own trap. Which is an even better message then her just wasting away because of them
I also want to point out the position of her hand. She is mimicking the stone-statue people with a "giving" gesture.
Now, I don't know how to fully interpret this observation with how she also made herself part of the final trap of her tomb. One idea I had was that she set up that trap, but as the last moments of her life come, she realizes her utter mistake and made one final gesture to atone. Or she made that gesture on purpose to draw the tomb raider in the hopes of giving them a false sense of security (like it almost did to Sisu).
Wait the message was trust? Wow I didn’t realise that the movie was about trust did they even say the word trust once? Who would’ve guessed they never made it obvious at all (obviously joking the third act would not shut up about trusted)
“Awww I want Dragons!! Stupid non-dragon world.”
I honestly felt that
OMG me too! Especially with these dragons. Those 'Where are my Dragons!!!' dragons from Game of Thrones can stay put. I want Sisu dragons!
yessss
Then you’ll be eaten for breakfast by dragons!
Every other depiction of dragons can go fuck themselves, dragons from RATLD are the main choice!
@@GabsARV maybe, but would you not want to learn how to firebend from a dragon in the Avatar universe?
I'm mostly impartial to either but I think firebending is pretty cool
Something I picked up on, I liked how Sisu’s human form, her teeth wasn’t perfect
In sooooo many Disney computer animated movies nowadays, their teeth are perfect
The imperfections that make her perfect. :)
It certainly would be a nice step forward for Disney to start teaching the younger generations, especially young women, that it’s okay, and beautiful to have imperfections. Because so many of us have grown up in a society that expects you to look perfect, and if you don’t, you’re “ugly” or “unattractive.” Its bred this whole ideology in young girls and women that’s caused disorders like anorexia and social anxiety.
It’s okay to strive to better yourself, while still not hating or self depreciating how and who you are.
@@GabsARV I think her dragon design fits her character, it bugs me the design is used for the other dragons because it fits Sisu more the most in my opinion, her not looking like a traditional asian dragon makes Sisu more unique, in my opinion..
“If you lost a puppy and someone said ‘WeLL wE sTiLL hAvE a BiG cHuNk oF It!’, would that make you feel better??”
Is single-handedly my favorite line from a Disney movie.
Anyone else notice just how many people the Druun wiped out? If there were 5 clans to begin with, Tail is essentially a person-less wasteland, Heart got abandoned when the Gem split, and Spine got wrecked by the Druun with only a sole survivor, there were only 2 clans left: Talon, built on the water, and Fang, walled off by water on an artificial island. That means that about 60% of the world got wiped out just by the Druun.
Yeah that is freaky. We don’t know how many people from Heart made it to Talon or Fang when everyone fled, or if there was anyone in Tail that we didn’t see, but the places themselves were mostly deserted.
@@dbseamz Definitely unsettling, to say the least. If the movie had been a series, I would've loved to see the extent of the worldbuilding and the effect of the loss, desperation, hope, and despair of everyone's situation
@@lexeddy1663 Me too, honestly
@@lexeddy1663 certainly possible
Indeed
I gotta give Raya some props for being a action and adventure film from Disney, haven’t seen something from them like that since treasure planet .
Does Moana not count for you?
@@saphira8080 Moana feels more like adventure, it doesn't have the fight scenes Raya has
@@saphira8080 good question. Moana doesn’t include a lot of physical confrontation amongst humans, so maybe not?
Moana is very similar I will admit. It’s got some good action scenes and literally the rock as a demigod. But there are two things that defeat it in the end from being an action movie. One it’s a musical. Not trying to crap on the genre, but action musical won’t work. It’s why Hercules isn’t considered action. And two, the fighting and chases was a focus of Raya. So much detail goes into how Raya fights and without magic. Maui really only fights one person in the film, and it’s mostly through shapeshifting snd trickery, not full on force (in keeping with Maui of course).
It’s always so refreshing hearing someone else sharing the love of treasure planet!! Brings the good memories of childhood and those innocent adventures imbued with imagination to the surface!
Fun Fact: All the fight scenes were choreographed, performed and filmed IRL and then used as reference for the animators. So all of them are somewhat real performances you are watching.
Were they filmed and used as reference or motion captured? They're both good. Just curious about the process.
The fight scenes were so well choreographed
@@BonaparteBardithion I believe Corridor Crew did a "Stuntmen React" video which included the raya fight scenes. Can't remember if it was just reference or MoCap, but I believe it was for reference only. If you want to check out their video th answer should be there.
Wowwwww
Same with Avatar
I'm just very happy someone else is finally saying that "trust everyone blindly" was never the message of the movie.
Finally someone got it!
Why does everyone keep thinking that? To quote another Disney movie, maybe they need to dig a little deeper to find the true message.
A close friend of mine has a lukewarm opinion of this movie because of such a misinterpretation of the message; maybe sharing this video can change said friend’s mind! 🤞🏻🤞🏻
EXACTLY. I constantly saw everyone saying that and commenting that, but guess what jackass, that mever was the message. Especially on that "Everything WRONG with Raya and the last dragon" video... such annoying people really. Creating problems out of thin air.
These things make me guilty of liking the movie and not finding anything wrong with it. It's one thing if it's a movie like Twilight that has real toxic and harmful problems.
@@whitewolf1310 yeah what movie?
I think Raya’s “doom walk” is one of the cinematic highlights of the movie for me. Especially the part where she splits a Druun *without even slowing down*, complete with a little flourish of the cape.
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I can't agree with our host saying she didn't care anymore. But at that moment, Raya had to feel betrayed, AGAIN, and was grief-stricken over Sisu.
Yeah she was completely enraged and I can’t blame her one bit.
Indeed
Agreed
I like how he addresses the trust stuff. all the reviews i've watched all criticise it for the message being 'trust everyone regardless of how they treated you' but this guy gets it but also says that it could've have been a bit better which I wholeheartedly appreciate
I agree, they’re looking at the trust message wrong.
Agreed
in my opinion this movie showcased the message "if you want trust from another person, trust them yourself as well"
DUDE, I was literally just wondering where CinemaWins went and here you are with an upload!
Great to have you back man and glad everything is okay.
Me too, I didn't realise how much I missed Lee and Cinema Wins until now!
But did he just confirm that he’s a dad?
@@antonissa8345 it's his second kid
@@christopherjames762 WHAT!!! SINCE WHEN!!?!
@@antonissa8345 I think his other kid is like 3 or 4 at least
"Almost like poverty and crime go together"
OUCH, I just burned my finger on that hot take
So?
Not exactly a hot take and criminals are still criminals no matter their financial situation
Was that an Odd1sOut reference?
@@ieatmice751 The point of saying it is that our current justice system is almost entirely focused on punishing “bad people,” rather than addressing the conditions that cause the crime in the first place.
@@simondowns2683 Well the justice system (police,courts) still has to do it's job. Changing the conditions should be a priority but its not necessarily their line of work.
@@simondowns2683 "Addressing the conditions" will forever be a work-in-progress. The definition of "poverty" from the last century is completely different from today, and a century later, that definition will no doubt change again. However, there will always be people who resort to crime due to what they perceive to be poverty, and law enforcement rightfully exists to keep those criminal filth off the streets.
"Sisu" is a word in Finnish. It doesn't translate well into English but it's basically the definition of "not giving up" and "having guts to do so". Or as a simple google search says "strength of will" But I don't think the producers knew the word existed although the word describes Sisu in the film pretty well.
When he started listing southeast asian weapons and martial arts i got really giddy for no reason lmfao. As a southeast asian individual who hails from the philippines, it's so amazing how he was able to recognize fighting styles, and research the weapons used by Namaari, and Raya, like the Filipino Arnis. These were small bits I didn't think western people would get, but i'm pleasently suprised! thank you
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Something I noticed when watching the movie is that at you look at Sisu’s older brother when Sisu’s family is using the gem (15:27 in the video) his hands are cupped like how the people who got turned to stone hands are, which means that the pose that those people have is technically them putting their trust in Sisu to use the gem.
Omg I never thought of that but I love it :0
YESS I KNEW SOMEONE ELSE WOULD NOTICE THAT!!
I think my favorite versions of dragons always end up being closest to Sisu and her siblings in temperament. There's just something RIGHT about the intelligent, wise dragon, compared to the ravenous monster. Of course, I'm also incredibly fond of the look of western dragons, all big and wings and stuff, so...
I completely agree with you. I like the look of both eastern and western dragons, but I can't stand it whenever they're portrayed as vicious evil monsters. I always saw dragons as majestic noble creatures that humans can look up to and be inspired by, like the most intelligent creature to ever walk the planet. I never saw them as something for humans to fear. I was born in the year of the dragon so I've always sort of identified myself with them, and as a kid I would get offended whenever I saw them portrayed negatively.
you should read the eragon book series if you like that kinda stuff.
@@chadwolfman OH I did. I was dead center in the target demographic when the first one came out. They don't hold up, but I wouldn't be surprised if they played a large role in my opinions on dragons, since it was the first thing I read to so heavily feature them. Heckin loved Sapphira
@@chadwolfman I’m reading that RIGHT now
@@chadwolfman Eragon is great series. I was just about to suggest that. I love the movie's portrayal of dragons but hate that they ruined important parts of the story.
Something I think a whole lot of people miss is that the message of the movie isn't simply about trust, it's about mutual trust. Every instance where trust turns out to be a mistake is one where the characters are interacting with people who have been told not to trust their whole lives, and in Namaari's case, she's also being manipulated/instructed by her mother, who doesn't trust the other lands. Ultimately, a lack of mutual trust created the literal apocalypse (twice, according to Sisu), but its trust that saves the world and begins the process of repairing it at the end of the film. Namaari finally decided to take a risk for someone other than Fang, and Raya and co. realized that holding onto hatred and grudges (which have kept their world back for, oh, 500 years) was only going to make things worse.
Edit: yeah, I made this comment, like, halfway through. Thank you, Cinemawins, for addressing this issue and taking a new angle on it I hadn't seen before. Your point is honestly stronger than mine, since it faces a hard truth of life: that sometimes, trust has to go one way before it becomes mutual.
THANK YOU!!!!
FINALLY SOMEONE GETS THE TRUST MESSAGE!!!!
One thing I caught in this movie that I wanted to share was that the main vehicle for getting around in the whole movie is a floating restaurant! As the adventure party gathers, they have many scenes of them interacting and becoming family in a place meant for food. I think there is a good theme of eating together brings people together thing going on, set up by Raya's dad talking about the soup made from different ingredients across the land. As the story goes on, we see the party bonding more and more over food the entire time!
Also heart brings sugar to the soup! The most peaceful nation bringing the sweetest ingredient
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The trust theme would be fine if it weren't so incomplete. The problem is that Namaari lacks any kind of redemption arc. She betrayed Raya, and in a way that completely destroyed the known world - not a small betrayal - and does nothing at no time ever in the film to indicate that she is deserving of a second chance. Without that redemption arc, without requiring that Namaari demonstrate *some* kind of desire to change, the trust theme is dangerous. That's how people get trapped in abusive relationships.
The world, the real world, our world isn't suffering due to a lack of trust, it's suffering due to a lack of repentance (meaning change of heart, not even religious). Were people who caused harm more willing to admit their wrong and actively change, trust would immediately follow.
And Sisu needed to learn boundaries and to be careful with who you trust
Soren from The Dragon Prince did it better.
@@jeffreygao3956 Soren’s redemption arc was one of the best things I had seen. Totally unexpected too. And let’s not even talk about the choice he made in the final episode
@@cyborgcuttlefish6326 "It's so nice to be on the side that's unchaining things!"
The movie overall would have worked so much better if they had left out just the few seconds that showed Namaari’s finger on the crossbow trigger during the standoff scene. As it is, you have a point: the overall scene plays out like Sisu’s trust got her killed and Raya was right NOT to trust and just acted a little too late.
But think about how the scene would have gone without that closeup. If her finger HADN’T been on the trigger, it would imply that she might have chosen to put the bow down-which would have made sense based on her conversation with Virana earlier in the movie, she seemed on board with the idea of bringing Sisu back and re-making the gem. Raya’s sudden, UNtrusting move to disarm her would have then been what caused the crossbow to shoot (In no expert on crossbows, but something slamming into a loaded one that’s ready to shoot could conceivably break something and/or release the tension in a way that would make the bolt launch)-in fact when I first saw the movie that’s what I thought had happened. This would make Namaari’s later line that Raya is also responsible for Sisu being shot make a lot more sense, and make the point that *sometimes*, (not always), doing things out of fear and distrust can make situations worse.
I think this story would have made an amazing series. Flesh out the different clans and make a ATLA traveling series.
i also thought of ATLAwhen watching this!
Gasp, did you just compare this to Avatar?
RACISTS, I'm going onto Twitter to CANCEL YOUUUUUUUU!!!!!
(....someone will surely get the reference)
Yeah, my problem was that this story felt too short and compressed. We have a colourful cast of supporting characters and they don’t get a chance to shine. If this was a trilogy (maybe Disney’s first theatrical), or a third series maybe.
@@dylantennant6594 Agreed. This entire movie was really cool but it felt a little... off the entire time. The detail was amazing and I loved the world-building but it just didn't feel complete.
@@lexeddy1663 I just want a show in where Namariis character arc was, because her only good thing was also the only way she could live.
Fun fact Amy Johnston and Lauren Mary Kim choreographed and even did some motion capture fights in this movie. I don't remember what Amy was in but Lauren did mo cap for season 7 of clone wars among many other things. They're both really great stuntwomen
Amy Johnston is great in Accident Man and Lady Blood Fight. She also played Harley Quin in Superpowered Beat Down and Andriod 18 in a Dragon Ball fan film.
Amys also been a stunt double for Black Widow in the past as well I think, civil war I think.
Not to be confused with Amy Jo Johnson, the original Pink Power Ranger lol
I know those 2 in another TH-cam channel
You got that info from Corridor Crew, didnt you? 😉😆
at 10:40 each drop a different number of flowers representing all the family members that were turned to stone. Ngl I cried when I realized.
I'm gonna assume that Jeffrey Bezos line was a reference to Inside
CEO, Entrepreneur
i NEED him to do an "everything great about inside"
@@seraphim.42 if he did, I half expect him to just sing along to Jeffrey Bezos and that's all that win is
@@TrungPhan-cz3bi born in 1964
@@VanessaTM024 lmao
Dunno if anyone things about this, but it really sucks that Raya's father missed like 6 YEARS of Raya's growth. That's time he'll never get back. It's like he went to sleep and she was a kid the last he saw her, and then the minute he woke up again, she was a full grown adult. Time passed for Raya, but for the chief it could have felt like the blink of an eye. That had to be so jarring, and I honestly don't think that they made that clear enough. He recognized her immediately, but I really would have appreciated some mention of 'how you've grown' or 'when did you get so big?'
"They grow up so fast, don't they?"
I feel you just liked that scene from endgame :)
All because he trusted the other clans…
@@thenumber27issomehowtaken Honestly it's more of his daughter's fault for bringing the princess of enemy nation to a sacred place (not blaming Raya ofc since she was a kid and she misinterpreted his words). Chief himself did nothing wrong.
So basically Interstellar.
I would LOVE to see you cover "The Prince of Egypt".
Finally got round to watching the film this morning (as well as Encanto, waiting for that EGA vid) and it is beautiful. There was one moment that had me in floods of tears, when Raya and her father see each other on the bridge and how she says "Ba" before running to him. So much heart and loss and relief and joy crammed into one small word.
I'm a huge sucker for dragons, and elemental type stuff where different tribes have different elements or areas they live in, so this movie got me hooked in almost instantly.
I'm kind of glad that they didn't make Raya and Namaari into those "secret siblings" cliche because that's originally what I thought would happen.
The scene where they all turned to stone would've really got me if the credits started to roll.
"dep la" is spelled similar to the Vietnamese "đẹp lạ": meaning "exotic beauty"
So you guys can guess why a lot of us ship those two girls cuz they keep calling each other "beauty" xD
Raya only said it once. Besides, it’s an extremely toxic ship
@@tototats16 I disagree.
the ship is toxic af
@@ussinussinongawd516 Why? Cause it's gay? You can't just say somethings toxic, you have to give a reason.
Plus idc, I think it's cute and that's all that matters.
@@amore9003 no one said anything about it it being toxic because it’s gay. It’s toxic because Namarri keeps betraying Raya.
"Stupid no dragons world" - most relatable saying Ever.
The music is some of the best Disney had produced in decades. The battle theme as Raya goes to battle Namaari at the climax is amazing, and every part of the score works
Ikr, this is James Newton Howard’s first films at Disney since Treasure Planet. Hope he keeps coming back.
@@joshuajoe1419 and Atlantis. His music is honesty incredible. He also did the hunger games movies soundtrack which is personally why I found the movies as engaging as they were, I don’t think I would’ve loved HG as much if it weren’t for his score.
One thing I noticed: When they put the flowers in the water, they all put the exact number of people they lost through the druun.
I noticed that too
I noticed that the first time I watched it
Bo Burnham Inside references get an instant thumbs up.
wait, where was that?
@@runamerone5492 Jeff Bezos line, plus ending line about content
After watching this, trust doesn’t sound like a word anymore
Semantic satiation?
Trashed is what I heard after a while--
@@HansMaurer. I feel like it's the only way that you can temporarily get an accurate idea of what your native language sounds like to a foreigner.
“On Fleek, Savage, Lit!” 😂😂😂
"Nothing will make you feel like a child more than reconnecting with your previously stone dad after 6 years" damn her father came back from buying cigarettes
7:08 Oh god, we've lost another one to the furry horde
You should do Everything GREAT About Tangled
And Brave. That movie is EXTREMELY underrated.
@@silverdragon4018 Agreed
Yes please!
Yes! :D Tangled is such a good movie
@@silverdragon4018 That itself is an understatement.
This movie is gorgeous. In terms of the music, the fight scenes, the VFX, animation, story and portrayal of humanity, visuals/camerawork! Everything was just, beautiful.
My list of things I loved about this movie + my list of things that could have been changed:
-The effects. Just the lighting of the water and tone of Raya’s skin are stupidly good animation.
-The dragons designs. They are long fluffy magic noodles. That is just beautiful.
-Shisu’s misunderstanding of the world around her. It makes sense that, after the last thing you remember doing o save the world is having to trust people, you would naturally think that everyone is to be trusted.
-The angry old lady chief. Idk why. She makes me happy even tho she betrayed Shisu.
-The FOOD EFFECTS. GOD IT MADE ME SO HUNGRY WATCHING
-The fact that Tounge(I think??) likes the baby because he misses his own child.
-Just seeing how the hatred had changed Raya after Shisu was killed. She was ready to kill. It added a great effect.
-The symbolism. How, because Shisu is the last dragon, and she is a water dragon, her being killed drained the water. Water truly is ‘magical’ in this world, as it acts as protection against the Druun. Also, how when they basically become un-stoned, the rain is what washes it away. Rain is water. It is Shisus magic and trust that saves them.
Now, things that should have been changed:
-A better Namaari redemption arc. We didn’t have much of her in the movie. I believe that there should have been more of her realizing how corrupted the world was, and how she wanted to change it.
-A close up of her finger off the trigger, not on. If they had showed that she was hesitating on shooting and had decided not to. If that had been shown, it would have created the impression that Namaari had finally been redeemed. However, it was Raya lashing out in her distrust that killed Shisu. I’ve operated a few crossbows, and hitting them while they are loaded DEFINITELY sets them off.
That was all for now. I will update more later.
I feel that it is less about "Trust everyone no matter what."
But rather
Trust people to want to help each other when the option is presented.
Don’t mind me, just waiting for Everything great about Dead Man’s Chest
Yup
I’m waiting for everything great about Godzilla vs Kong.
Yeeeeee
Yeap
Everything Great about Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie is the one I'm waiting for.
And when the world needed him the most... HE RETURNED.
'I read that in a book once; obviously I had no friends as a child' had be choking. Why.
3:55 When you hear a tone shift in Namaari's voice, you know that Namaari played Raya.
I absolutely love the moment right after Sisu is shot where it zooms in on Raya and shows her reaction. From the animation that shows the true fury in her eyes to her raged filled breathing. It’s such a subtle detail, but it was one of the most realistic animated scenes I’ve ever seen.
No mention that Raya and Namaari have an "are they, aren't they" thing going on the whole movie
Fr.
Nah
With my shipping goggles on it's blatantly obvious. But while watching it normally there wasn't really time to establish that kind of dynamic. If they had known each other for longer as kids or established they met several times during those six years it would have worked better.
@@BonaparteBardithion It's leaning too heavily into the enemies side. It ain't like Catra and Adora where they had a history of fun together and so they know the good in each other and liked each other once, and were vaguely aware of Shadow Weaver's cycle of abuse. She Ra's Catradora is what Raya wishes it had.
... oh please, there was more sexual tension between those two than there was between Nick and Judy in Zootopia.
I get to finally listen to something positive about this movie
ikr, I really enjoyed the movie but it gets so much hate unfortunately :(
Why is it getting hate? It's the best movie I've seen in a LONGGG time.
@@mumenRhyder Because everybody thinks they need to have hot takes these days.
@@mumenRhyder The message thier teaching to children is um kindav bad and not done properly
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@@mumenRhyder I've litterally read TWO negative opinions on it. Vocal minority, as always
I like Pengu's design ^^
He's a unique dragon like his fellow dragons
Yeah, I was lowkey disappointed that the fight scenes weren't just "The Raid Redemption, but for kids," but seeing Raya and Namaari use Pencak Silat and Muay Boran respectively in their first fight really tickled the martial arts nerd inside of me.
Ha! Imagine they got Iko Uwais for this movie!
The art style of the opening is done in the shadow puppet style - in Indonesia we call it Wayang. I also love all the little details from the food (sate), to the clothing (batik), to the environment (rainforest). It's really cool to see a character who looks like me or someone I could have gone to school with on the big screen this way. If this had come out when I was growing up, it'd be my favourite movie.
Malaysian here
Same same same 😍
It might be my favorite movie the more I watch it
The exposition at the beginning looks just like the exposition animation in Moana
That’s what I thought
i love the 2D animation exposition portion of a lot of disney movies
i think a few people who worked on moana worked on raya and the last dragon so i’m not surprised there are multiple similarities between the two films
1:19 cuteness overload
The scene where Namaari teared up at seeing Sisu had me choked up as well. It showed the emotional nuances between those sides.
I like how the Tail Chief, the one who first spoke about how untrusting she was to heart and then body slams Raya, is found later on. While the other characters are just in the stone "sleep", Not only did she pass away, but she passed away alone, shutting everyone out with traps, and while holding the gem in the same pose the stone statues make. It immediately sets up the main resolution by showing what happens when we let fear and cowardice take control over trust and bravery. While the Droon at least give a chance to prove the good in you, lack of trust for anyone leaves you loneliness and death.
PLEASE.
You HAVE to make Everything Great About Legend of thew Guardians, The Owls of Ga'Hoole!
That movie NEEDS your treatment!
I second this.
@@berengustav7714 Third!!!!
I’m absolutely behind this.
I actually think he already did it. Or maybe it was a dream. Idk haha that movie is gorgeous too! I love it
@@nitzeart He never did it, that was CinemaSins.
And now that they have that movie up their belt, THERE'S NO EXCUSE!
3:42 asians dont even wear shoes into their own homes so this feels right in my eyes since i am south east asian
Same
"I love that sweet and cutesy Sisu pulls off ferocious like a champ" Unfortunately the comparison is unavoidable but Sisu can't pull off sweet and cutesy or ferocious like Toothless can.
I've watched Raya yesterday, for the first time. I cried like a baby for like the last half hour of the movie. I wanted to see a review that praised it. I kept thinking to myself "Is this that 'Disney magic' people talk about?" I was in love. The animation, setting, characters, voicework, the female-lead plot that had LITERALLY all the major players as women, not something you see often...
I searched, literally, "raya is good", wanting to see a positive reaction such as mine. The first five or six videos were "Raya is NOT a good movie" and variations of that.
Then, a glimmer of hope. A CinemaWins video. Thank you for being such a positive person. Besides me, your're the only other person I've heard of that still found a way to enjoy TRoS.
I know how you feel, this is on and off topic, when Wish Dragon came out on Netflix, I saw hundreds of comments calling it better than Raya and the Last Dragon, which honestly confused me, don’t get me wrong, I loved Wish Dragon, it was a very cute movie but better than Raya?
Really?
That is a complete overexaggeration!
Both Raya and Wish Dragon are both great in their own ways
One is not better than the other.
There’s a difference between saying one
movie is better than the other and it actually being better than the other.
( Note: This is just my opinion, if you like Wish Dragon more than Raya or visa versa, I can respect that )
The legend has returned. Hope the kids are okay.
Welcome back! Hope the fathering of two kids now is going well!
Could you cover Everything Great About Rango? It would be greatly appreciated.
Rango!
Here's something I noticed fang does puppet shows and in tangled in the dream song they say fang does little puppet shows. So I found that hilarious.
Wait, so are the Ruffians from Fang?
Wait, that guy’s name was Fang? I must have misheard when I watched Tangled. Then again I know I misheard another lyric from that same song.
The movie felt like an overly extended version of one of those short films in the trailer sequence at the movies (something like Disneys lava)
The ONE thing that bugs me about the movie: why does everyone the Druun petrify have that pose? WHY? What's the significance of it?
I think it’s supposed to be irony, because people use that pose to respect dragons, and druun use that pose because they’re described to be the opposites of dragons.
I think it's a mourning pose. It's reminiscent of the poses that Raya and the others make when leaving the flower tributes to thier lost family members on the river--the cupped hands, held out.
Don't quote me on that, though. I tried looking it up but couldn't find anything.
at the end of the movie, when the rain from the gem brings everyone back, the statues hold their hands out to "catch" the rain. at least, that's how i see it
It's a submission pose, Druun symbolized the western colonials who colonize SEA since the fall of Melaka to Portuguese in 1511AD in which about 500 years ago.
I know I'm late but have you noticed how Sisu's siblings had their hands cupped when they were holding the gem, putting their trust in Sisu? like how the petrified people poses are? I think it was to signify that they're putting their trust in Sisu but there's other theories that explain better.
"Disney isn't big on sequels..."
That changed? Just going off the top of my head here so I'm probably missing some, but Aladdin got two, Beauty and the Beast got two, The Lion King got two, The Little Mermaid got one, Lady and the Tramp got one, Bambi got one, Cinderella got two, A Goofy Movie got one, The Rescuers got one, Atlantis got one, Pocahontas got one, Frozen got one, Wreck It Ralph got one, and that's not even counting all the Pixar or live action stuff.
Sure, most of them weren't theatrical releases, but they were still revisiting the same world in some form.
Little Mermaid had a prequel, too, about Triton banning music because it "killed" his wife
Tangled and Big Hero 6 got their own series.
@@zolacola7924 Oh dang, Little Mermaid meets Footloose? Now I'm intrigued...
@@JMcMillen Oh yeah, I wasn't even thinking about animated series. I remember Little Mermaid, Aladdin, and Lion King got those, too.
okay but these suck, if they make a sequel for a movie like Raya it has to be good to explore the universe
Honestly, I love the “totally lowkey unnoticeable” digs on society throughout the video! They confirm that my dude over here has got a good head on his shoulders 😝❤️
I like how when the people turn to stone they cup their hands which at the end of the movie how they collect the water that inevitably saved them.
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Well, now you've started the train of comments for Everything Great about the Great Mouse Detective.
G o o d.
Thank you for finally pointing out that Namaari was a 12-year-old when she betrayed Raya, and was heavily implied to be following the instruction of her mother. I can see Namaari being told to do *anything* to gain Raya's trust: be completely open to her, share your true desires, **offer up your most prized piece of jewelry**. No matter what, it's worth it to get the gemstone.
She also murderd Sizu before the climax. This dumpster fire isn't salvageable with fan wanks.
Jonathan Lee that’s called the darkest hour and it’s so very common in media. It’s part of good writing. Stop hating on the film when it follows a very classic adventure style structure.
@@Iaml3j0 she "murdered" Sisu because of Raya. No need to be an asshole dude
@@tutumazibuko2510 What did Raya do to cause Namaari to shoot Sisu?
@@genevieveowusu885 Raya thought Namaari would shoot Sisu, so she whipped the crossbow out of her hands, but instead that caused her to shoot at Sisi instead of stopping her
Oh, I have been WAITING for this one . . .
Edit: Also, 12:00
HE MENTIONED SHE-RA!! I'm SO glad he's seen it, or, at least, is aware of it. It is a SERIOUSLY good watch.
YES! EXACTLY! Everyone go watch it. It’s amazing. Free on Netflix.
@@pinkajou656 Amen. I genuinely mean this when I say it's quality rivals that of Avatar's
For the honor of Greyskull!
Guys, listen up. Who else is still waiting for Everything Great with “Atlantis: The Lost Empire” except for me?
If you are with me for this video, smash the like and answer whatever thoughts you have for this animated movie.
I'd love to see that. it's so underrated
plus, i'm glad my father brought that disc in the moment it came out on dvd (he got it from a rental store)
I can't believe it took me this video to realize that it hit so hard to me because I developed "don't trust anyone" as a defense mechanism and I miss the faith of trusting in things just because - like Sisu does. Hello I did not sign up for therapy I just wanted to see some positivity about this movie 💀💀💀
I'm obsessed with Raya. It was really great and very detailed like rain drops falling from hair, baby hair on the skin and the clothes.
when i saw this movie, it felt like it was supposed to be a 12 episode series. things where rushed and some moment fell really out of place.
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Is it me or that kid is like a mixed version of Alberto and Luca design ? He really reminds me of Alberto personality wise too..
Can we just win the gorgeous and intricate details in the animation. Not just the landscapes but the unique look to each of the dragons and the details in the clothes and hairstyles. The animation is just stunning.
Missed you Lee, welcome back. Don’t stress you’re self out
Y'know I genuinely forgot Mr. Cinemawins had another kid on the way. So when he took the break I was confused after a bit but thought nothing of it. Now I feel like kind of an asshole for forgetting.
I feel like if this movie was made in the early 2000s, Tong would have been voiced by Jack Black and no one can convince me otherwise
You did something new in terms of animation. It'd be fun to see you do something a little older? For the sound design, score, animation, shot composition, and overall visual aesthetic alone this movie deserves it's time in the spotlight. I give you, Atlantis: The Lost Empire.
So a really cool thing, Sisu's "water stepping" is in the "Avatar" world as well! In the Avatar Kyoshi books she learns a technique that all benders can use called Dust Stepping- Water Benders do this (little suspended water/ice platforms they leap on) Airbenders and Firebenders do short bursts of air or fire, and Earthbenders grab dust/sand/small rocks and jump off those
The only complaint I had for this movie was that I wanted more. Like a TV show length for this story. Mwa!
You may very well still get your wish
@@whitewolf1310 Fingers crossed!
I had some problems with this film. I felt it could have been a series to expand the lore, write some better humor for Sisu, and make it a little darker. I wanted to like it, but I didn't love it the way I wanted to. Now "Luca" was a total gem.
Exactly! And yes, Luca was a gem
It just felt too easy at the end. Why do all the dragons come back? The first time the gem was made the dragons didn't come back to why this time.
And really why was Sisu revived? She was shot and died not like she was turned to stone. I get that it's a kids movie but the ending was way too happy ever after
@@philipvalvoschnotalla9634 Yeah, plus the whole message about Trustv was poorly executed
@@philipvalvoschnotalla9634 apparently the dragons didn't come back the first time because there was no trust among the people.
"Anger is never the answer"
But it IS an excellent motivator!
Despite it being an animated movie the effects of the environment and physics of hair, fur, clothes, etc. Which is probably the sisu attraction some people had (I don't blame em). In like aww a cute animal that seems very human in nature kind of way yknow?
Welcome back bud, your positivity was missed.
You Should Do:
"Everything Great About Monsters University"
It One of the Only Pixar Movies You Haven't And "Monsters At Work" Is Coming Out Right Know.
CinemaWins needs to make more EGA Pixar videos. He hasn’t done Toy Story 1-4, Monsters Inc. and MU, Cars 1-3, Up, Brave, and Luca.
The Druun reminds me of the electric Id monster from _Forbidden Planet_ aka. Caliban from Shakespeare's The Storm.
Also, the "Raya leaving her mission to get revenge" reminds me of the approximate same twist in Big Hero 6
This was the best movie of the year, no matter what... This had me in tears, in awe, in shock and in belief for everything that happen. I'd love to live in this new world....a United Kumundra😭😭😭
It didnt came out this year.
So....Encanto and even turning red were much better...
I like to believe binturi is a pg way to say [female dog]
I thought so too.🤔
Except possibly a bit more gender neutral, because I think Boun called all the Fang warriors pursuing them bunturis and unless I’m misremembering, some of them were men.
I've been pretty disappointed with Disney movies over the last little while, including their animated ones. This movie was a wonderful surprise, especially considering my low expectations. Easily one of the best animated films by Disney in a long while.
What's funny is I felt the exact opposite. The martial arts scenes were good and animation as well. Boon was cool, as well as Tuk Tuk.
I think the message they tried to convey was good and incredibly relevant for today. Would have loved to see it played out a little more.
Movies like what?
(Curious, I wanna know)
@@the9der352 Frozen II, Soul, Ralph Breaks the Internet, and every live action remake/re-imagination made to date (except the first Maleficent), have been somewhere between dog-shit and mediocre. Basically, any Disney movie made in the last 5 years or so.
@@Jollyroger84103 That’s pretty interesting because I definitely consider Soul to be a great film
Seeing how much potential this movie had, I can’t help but wonder how much of the script was screwed over because of the pandemic. As the credits put it, 20:37 the team had to make this from 400 individual homes, and I can’t imagine it’s easy to write a whole movie script from that many places (even if most houses were for animators, musicians, etc etc).
Him: Of course it’s not really fair because shes dragon and not
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Don't know when your next EGA video will come out but here's a bunch of films to consider:
-Sing
-Despicable Me 1, 2 & 3
-Cinderella (Original or Live Action)
-Godzilla (1998)
-Pokémon: The First Movie
-Fantastic Beasts & the Crimes of Grindelwald
-Mary Poppins
-Mary Poppins Returns
-Ralph Breaks the Internet
-Toy Story 1, 2, 3 & 4
-A Bug’s Life
-Monsters Inc & University
-Cars 1, 2 & 3
-UP
-BRAVE
-Aladdin (Original & Remake)
-The Hobbit Trilogy
-The Jurassic Park Trilogy
-Atlantis: The Lost Empire
-Lilo & Stitch
-Christopher Robin
-Beauty & the Beast (Original & Live Action Remake)
-Isle of Dogs
-Mr. Peabody & Sherman
-Dumbo (Original & Live Action Remake)
-Disney's Dinosaur
-The Land Before Time
-The Iron Giant
-Star Wars: Clone Wars (2008 Film)
-The Peanuts Movie
-The Chronicles of Narnia Trilogy
-Walking with Dinosaurs 3D (or Cretaceous Cut or Prehistoric Planet 3D?)
-Super Mario Bros: The Movie
-The Lion King (2019)
-Night at the Museum 1, 2 & 3
-The Secret Life of Pets 1 & 2
-Tarzan
-Emperor’s New Groove
-Brother Bear
-Maleficent
-Book of Life
-King Kong (Peter Jackson)
-Coraline
-Paranorman
-George of the Jungle
-Babe & Babe: Pig in the City
-Happy Feet 1 & 2
-101 Dalmatians (Original & Live Action) & 102 Dalmatians
-Trolls: World Tour
-Scoob!
-The Simpson’s Movie
-Spirited Away
-Rango
-The Prince of Egypt
-The Rugrats Movie, Rugrats in Paris, Rugrats Go Wild
-The Wild Thornberrys Movie
-Who Framed Roger Rabbit
-Crazy Rich Asians
Holy Frick. How long did it take you to think and type this up?
@@HaydrogenBomb Not that long, I just copy & pasted it from a previous list I've already made (& also removed the films he already made EGA videos about)
"I had no friends as a child"
That cut deep
One detail that always stood out to me in this movie is that when the Druun were closing in, there was one citizen from each clan gathered in the same place, and even though they all came from completely different backgrounds and places, they decided to put trust into each other in a moment where they knew they had to let go of their differences and past.
Absolutely love this movie; it honestly deserves more recognition for the amount of hard work that was put into its production. And give it up for James Newton Howard for creating such a majestic and amazing soundtrack, indeed an excellent masterpiece.
6:59, not furries... since this was a dragon movie, a lot of dragon-based fursonas will be made in the future. FYI Lizard-types or the cold-blooded guys are called scalies.
Finally, I'm not the only one trying to clear that up. XD
The dragons in the movie have fur tho, so should they be furries or scalies?
Same thing bro
Great video, as usual - love your channel - but there were two missed wins, in my opinion. One; Namaari is a reflection of her mother - the haircut and the earring are on opposite sides to each other, but when they stand face-to-face, it is like they reflect each other - maybe hinting at the conflict in Namaari over what her mother is asking of her, that she thinks the opposite?
Two; Benedict Wong is always a win.
I actually really liked this movie and I don't know why people hated it. It was wonderful
The thing I think they did wrong was never returning to what Kumari said about that "first time I've had rice in a while" because that does not automatically equates to poverty in Fang. Right now in my country we have more apples than we know what to do with (literally, there was a scandal a bit back about farmers throwing apples away in ditches because they couldn't sell them) but we can't grow either rice nor dragonfruit nor... a lot of other stuff that needs different climates. Us not having dragonfruit does not equates to our country being poor.
And in the movie they never show it one way or another. They put in that line about rice and assume everyone will think "oh, that means everyone except Heart is poor and famine-riddled" but it really doesn't. And when later on in the movie we see Fang it looks super green and prosperous.
Personally, I think that line should be seen as a nod towards how Kumandra isn't united, so things that people have in Heart every day is a luxury in Fang but maybe something Fang has everyday will be a luxury for Heart and so forth.