Shula picked up the phone, called Foge and asked him if the rumors were true..Foge said “no” then the Dolphins took him…I guess the Steelers didn’t have phones back then
Maybe Shula picked up the phone and said. “Good job, the rumor worked.” Every year it seems there is some kid that slides in the draft due to rumors. Some seem based, some seem intentionally amplified. Maybe that was a game played even back then. However, since he grew up in Pittsburgh and played at Pitt, the Steeler scouting department shouldn’t have even needed a phone. I love the what ifs, and I’m a Steeler fan, but I wonder if he would have had the same career in Pittsburgh under Noll as in Miami under Shula. Folks say the same what ifs about the teams that passed on Brady. Sometimes the player, coach, organization, and situation just match up seemingly perfectly. Similarly, I wonder about the QB graveyard in Cleveland. What would their careers have looked like if they’d have fell on draft day to another team.
Marino was one of the best pure passers in history. Arm strength, quick release, accuracy, acumen. He had it all. But his Senior year stats were disappointing and the rumors were probably not just rumors. I can't blame the Steelers for being jittery over picking him as so were a lot of other teams and it was not really fair to put Fazio on the spot like that(if that's what actually happened) as everyone knew Fazio could not say definitively if the rumors were true or not. In any case, credit to Marino for straightening himself out and becoming a HOF quarterback.
@@TSimo113 you shouldn’t spread nonsense “Marino's stock in the 1983 draft dropped due to a bad season and rumors of drug problems during his senior year at the University of Pittsburgh. It has been written that Marino had to take a urinalysis before the draft to prove he was clean. Shula heard the rumors and checked them out. He was delighted when Marino was still available after 26 players, including five quarterbacks, had been drafted. Two seasons later, the Dolphins are preparing to battle the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowl XIX Sunday. 'Everybody's trying to figure out now why he was drafted so late,' Shula said. 'We had a strong commitment on Marino that others did not. We heard rumors, different kinds of rumors. 'We checked them out and did not hear anything that changed our minds. I called (Pitt Coach) Foge Fazio and he gave me his strongest recomendation. We knew all we needed to know.'”
marino wasn't the only mistake at quarterback that the steelers made. the steelers had unitas and len dawson before they went to other teams and had great careers
A big miss by a lot of teams. I don't know what's worse, passing on Marino for a different position player or picking another QB instead of him (except for Elway). People also forget the Steelers made the AFC Championship game in 1984 and lost to the Marino-led Dolphins.
Not just Elway. Consider this: Tony Eason stopped a Marino S.B. run in '85, Jim Kelly did the same in '90, '92, and '95, and Elway also did the same in '98. And they all outplayed Marino in those 5 games. .And yet Marino outplayed them all in their Reg. Season games---BUT NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS. .
As to your other point, keep in mind that the Dolphins could have drafted HOFer Darrell Green instead of Marino in '83. Green played good enough to help his team win 5 championship games while Marino only played good enough to help his team win 1.Green played good enough to help his team win 2 S.B.'s while Marino played bad enough to help his team lose his only S.B. game. Green was the next guy drafted after Marino.
@@dennismumford6108 Green could lockdown one half of the field. Any coach would rather have that than a bombs away QB. Those were the days when a great defense could beat a great offense. I'm sure this was discussed in those meetings before the draft. The Dolphins rolled the dice like any other. Green did not play good, he played great!! Also, the NFL was starting to get pass happy. Fouts, Marino, offenses that opened up the game. So picking Green was a no brainer. His abilities were well known to Washington. Same as Lott for San Fran, or Blout for Pittsburgh. The sleepless nights by coordinators when designing plays must have been frustrating when you saw their numbers. You could only fool them once or twice. That was it.
@@tomodonovan5931 You make some excellent points. Add this to it---the Blackwood brothers were getting older and possibly a little slower, so the addition of Green in '83 would have been very timely for that Dolphins Defense. Hard to say who would have drafted Marino then, but he probably would not have had the same "instant chance for success" that he was afforded with that Dolphin team in '83 and beyond.
If you think Terry was going to be around for awhile, fine, but Marino was the local talent and if you had questions about his character all you have to do is visit the university and talk to his coach and to Marino himself when the season is over. Marino was too good a talent to pass over.
Yeah and this mistake made over 40 years ago continues to haunt the Steelers to this day. The whole drafting Kenny Pickett was just because he went to the Pittsburgh college like Dan Marino did. It was obvious that Kenny Pickett was NEVER gonna be anywhere near Dan Marino. PS passing on Dan Marino just for smoking weed is stupid.
It was cocaine, not marijuana. Around the Pitt campus, Marino's nickname was "Snowdust". Years later, I became friends with his brother-in-law (we've since lost touch) but those "Rumors" about Marino turned out to be not only credible but also true. Fortunately, he got clean and obviously went on to have an outstanding Hall of Fame career.
mary wanna lol Cope was great one of kind talent and a distinct personality. I stood in line with him waiting for a rental at the airport. Began talking to me butter-smooth as if he'd known me as a neighbor for years and years. One of those human beings you will miss dearly without ever knowing the person.
I love him not throwing people under the bus and taking responsibility. Also, they couldn't foresee what happened with Bradshaw's operation or with Gabe Rivera. Hey, if they thought he could replace Mean Joe Greene then he had to be a great player.
Seven guys made the Pro Football Hall of Fame from this draft. Eric Dickerson and Bruce Matthews also went ahead of Marino. Jim Covert also played at Pitt and went ahead of Marino. Jim Kelly was also drafted before Marino. Seven other guys in the first round also made at least one Pro Bowl. Todd Blackledge was the biggest bust of this draft. He was seventh overall and actually picked ahead of Kelly, Eason, O'Brien, and Marino. He was the second QB picked and was by far the worst of the six. He was the only QB who ended up being horrible. Eason had some good games, and O'Brien had some good games.
Blackledge had a better senior year than Marino. I can see the temptation pick him high in the draft. QB choices are often a roll of the dice. Great college QB's don't always translate to great ones in the NFL for sure. In fact there have been way more 1st round busts than gems.
@@TSimo113 That's probably because a lot of these "great quarterbacks" are really just products of great systems. I am much more impressed by quarterbacks on horrible football teams. Good offensive lines and good receivers can make an average quarterback seem great. Quarterbacks with Heisman trophies have especially been big busts. Penn State has had quite a few quarterback busts. John Schafer was lucky to have a good supporting cast, which is why he was always "winning." And I'm not sure what to say about Kerry Collins. Doug Strang seemed like a decent QB, although he never got much credit for it. Marino's senior season was also Foge Fazio's first season as coach. The wheels started to come off Pitt football when Jackie Sherrill quit. Pitt was #1 in 1982 when Notre Dame upset them. Pitt football collapsed to 3-7-1 in 1984. Pitt football hasn't been the same since. Incidentally, I'm a Mountaineer, so I hate both Pitt and PSU.
@@ChrisBakerauthor Yeah looking at the list of Heisman QBs, most have not had consistent success. Davey O'Brien Andre Ware Angelo Bertelli Baker Mayfield Bryce Young Caleb Williams Cam Newton Carson Palmer Charlie Ward Chris Weinke Danny Wuerffel Doug Flutie Gary Beban Gino Torretta Jameis Winston Jason White Jim Plunkett Joe Burrow John Huarte Johnny Lujack Johnny Manziel Kyler Murray Lamar Jackson Marcus Mariota Matt Leinart Pat Sullivan Paul Hornung Robert Griffin III Roger Staubach Sam Bradford Steve Spurrier Terry Baker Tim Tebow Troy Smith Ty Detmer Vinny Testaverde
Hardly anybody ever talks about the fact that the Steelers also could have picked Darrell Green in that same draft. Green was picked after Marino. This was a time when the Steelers had no pass defense, and Green ended up being one of the greatest DB's of all time. Does anybody seriously think that Chuck Noll ever would have allowed Marino to put up all those passing numbers that Marino got under Don Shula? If Rivera had turned out to be as great as expected, nobody would be talking about this. It was only because of that stupid car accident that people do. The Steelers' luck wasn't all that much different from the same luck that the Celtics had with Len Bias.
That wasn't the half of it as I stated in an earlier post in this thread go to each round, look who they picked, and look who they passed up. As I was reading the '83 draft I just couldn't believe what I was reading I never realized the talent that they let slip through their fingers.
Yeah, but…did you see Gabe Rivera in college? He was unbelievable. A Steelers defensive archetype if I ever saw one. It was a quality decision at the time it was made. It’s not Chuck’s fault the guy ended his own career off the field.
I will always find that notion absurd. Few elite QB’s just “fall into” a perfect situation. Miami was far from a perfect fit for Marino….average WR’s at best, average defense and no running game to speak of. Had Cleveland taken Allen first he would be just as good as he is now because elite talent supersedes everything. Montana and Mahomes were put in perfect situations.
@@axe2grind244 I don’t mean so much that the Steelers were bad. They even had some success around that time. I mean that they may not have utilized his passing ability to its full potential considering how run heavy they were traditionally. Or…….he could have been the perfect compliment to the run game and Louis Lipps would be in the hall of fame. Never know, I guess.
In 1983, how could they have reasonably expected Terry Bradshaw to stick around for several more years? Bradshaw was drafted in 1970. He was very good, but 13 seasons is a long time. Especially in the 1980’s. They really needed to be thinking about a replacement with a 13 year veteran at QB.
@joeshmoe4671 Right. And, the rumors (no matter how true) scared a lot of teams away. The only people I know of who would have drafted Marino in the top-15 were Ernie Accorsi (Colt GM at the time. He wanted a pick in the top-10 of the 83 draft in any Elway trade so he could draft Marino) and Norm Pollom (Bills GM. He said that he had them rated Elway-Kelly-Marino).
I was living in the Burgh back in 1983 and remember that famous draft very well. And just like any Steelers fan, I wanted Dan as our next QB. But at the same time, I was never once convinced that it would really happen. It just seemed too good to be true whether the rumors had anything to do with it or not. There was hope, but I just don’t think it was in the cards.
Most NFL players played hard, but also partied hard, which means most consumed mind-altering substances. Not habitually, but recreationally. So I just don't buy the "drug" excuse. The Steelers, along with other teams, simply overlooked Marino the way many teams overlooked Montana in the '79 draft.
Myron = Legendary announcer in the 412. Chuck a Legend and protecting the fact that Art Rooney II that wanted to pass on Marino. As It was said that "the Chief" never did forgive his son for passing on that draft pick. (Art II was the one who said that). ( Proof is in the way that Chuck said two things: 1st.) "it was a collaboration". (Meaning alot of arguing in family business as was the Steelers at that time. 2nd.) Chuck states, " I take the accountability on that one". Meaning ultimately, he sided with Art II based on team needing to replace #75 Greene and Chuck thinking they had the QB situation under control. ( Boy was that a miss). Spent my entire 80's pissed that Miami would whoop Steelers ass on the regular......
@anthonybatulis6516 Who would have been the better pick in that spot? That was a weak class; it’s not like the Bears when they took Trubisky instead of Mahomes.
Marino worked out for the Steelers in private in Three Rivers Stadium in Chuck Noll wanted to draft him. It was Art Rooney Jr. who insisted they could have Bradshaw for three more years. They were spooked by the rumors, but Noll still wanted to pick him But here's the big problem, look at who they drafted in each round, and look who they passed up in each round. They didn't have to trade up or down, and look at the guys they passed up. That team should have been set for another decade. If I were to write a book I would title it The Pittsburgh Steelers of 1983: The Dynasty that never happened.
Though it was antithetical to the Steelers at the time, if ever there was a year to get Rivera and then move back into the first round and get Marino (e.g. give up your #2, and #1 next year) this was indeed the year.
Here is the worst part of that '83 draft for the Steelers---they could have had HOFer Darrell Green. Green was the player selected right after Marino. They would have picked up a guy that played good enough to help his team win 5 championships--3 Conference and 2 S.B.'s. Marino only played good enough to help his team win 1 championship--the '84 Conference Championship.
Thank you. Everyone keeps talking as if Marino would have been the same on their team. The reality is that he had total control of the offensive in Miami and still couldn't get to more than one SB.
@@fredwright9755 And the TEAM needs a QB that could get it done in the playoffs. Unfortunately, Marino was NOT that guy a majority of the time. And he definitely WASN'T that guy in 75% of his championship games. Very unfortunate for his teammates.
@@dennismumford6108 So did he not nod at you at the airport or something? Is that why you dedicate you sad little life to bad mouthing Marino on every video about him? What a loser.
Gabe Rivera was an absolute monster. I can understand why the Steelers drafted him over Marino. Still sucks considering what could have been, but I don’t think the Steelers made a mistake.
@@jpete3027666 Also, I don't think that Brady has the same career in SF (or a lot of places). If he is drafted in SF late in the 2000 draft (when Rattay was drafted), I think he beats out Carmazzi, but doesn't play a whole lot until 2004. That year, they do a little better, but Erickson is still fired, and Mike Nolan still comes in as HC to replace him. And, if they don't get Smith, they get A-Rod. As a result, Brady is gone in a few years.
People are overanalyzing and Noll basically said what it was. It was the drug rumors. Now in 2023, this seems like no big deal with some weed, but back then it was a dealbreaker. And what happened to Rivera was completely unforeseeable.
Gabe Rivera even with hindsight was the right choice. Senior Sack would have been the Joe Greene of the 80”s. Steelers passed up Joe Montana another local boy twice in 1979 for the likes of Whirlpool Greg Hawthorne whom everyone knew was an athlete playing football. Then the Steelers took another project they didn’t need in the second round Zack Valentine . If the Steelers had taken Montana with one of those picks this conversation would never happen
I think Chuck Knoll really liked Terry Bradshaw, he just thought he had to be mean to Terry to get him to perform, some coaches take the strict, hard nose approach too far. Terry never realized how much Chuck Knoll liked him, or wanted him as QB. This video proves it.
Imagine Marino, changing the course of the Steelers organization, if he would of been drafted by the team 🤔 I'm sure a Super Bowl would've came out of it,.. or two 😅 😌🙏 Legendary Myron Cope, may you walk in heaven with the Lord.
In 1983 the Pittsburgh Steelers were very unfortunate that the pick before Dan Marino which they used to draft Defensive lineman Gabe Rivera who had the potential to be another mean Joe Greene had that career ending injury via car accident. That accident could've happened to anyone including Dan Marino. So what if everything happened the other way around? In that case Dan Marino would have become an unknown and Gabe Rivera would have been a hall of famer, possibility with a few Superbowl titles. So what I'm saying is, unfortunate tragedies could happen to anyone anytime, so the 1983 Pittsburgh Steelers weren't dumb by drafting Gabe Rivera, they were simply unfortunate after all this unfortunate tragedy could have happened to Dan Marino whether if were drafted by the Steelers or Dolphins or any team for that matter.
Collegiate potential elite ability transferring to pros hope aside Rivera never displayed NFL on field potential dominance of Mean Joe Greene by any specific metric during his short unfortunate stint , Mean Joe Greene illustrated his greatness emmediately.RIP Gabe Rivera
With all due respect to Gabe Rivera, R.I.P. The Steelers had a necessity..a replacement for Terry Bradshaw who was 35 at the start of the 1983 season. Most teams, about 80 to 90% of them draft the best athlete available at the moment their turn comes up in the draft. Marino had national exposure and considered to be highly regarded by most experts. How long did the Steelers organization think Bradshaw was going to be around??? Mark Malone and Cliff Stout weren't in the same category as Bradshaw and certainly not on the same level as Marino. In the 1983 playoff game against the Raiders, according to Sports Illustrated, Stout was sacked more than Rome in that game. Marino had a quick release of the football, a plus... It truly was a ginormous mistake in not taking Marino in the draft. As for the accident, yes you're right, it can happen to basically anyone... but this accident happened in Texas and according to reports, Rivera was going above the speed limit as well, that's something to consider... each person has different views on driving a car...but the accident is irrelevant. The NEED of the Steelers wasn't met... a QB has a higher priority than a DL. Comparing Rivera to Joe Greene is unfair.. a Joe Greene comes around once in a lifetime.. there's only one Michael Jordan, one Wayne Gretzk, one Tom Brady, one Hank Aaron, etc... a Dan Marino is a rare QB from the start... Miami seized the opportunity but never built that running game to compliment the passing game... their defense was questionable as well...Marino on the Steelers would have made them dominatable in the 80's.
That's what us Dolphin fans thought was gonna happen when the Dolphins went to that SB against SF. Then it just turned into Marino being a Stat whore who refused to change his game when Jimmie Johnson was hired. Johnson couldn't get Marino to buy into his system and all Marino cared about were his passing stats. Johnson said screw it and retired again
In my opinion was Chuck Noll's Biggest Mistake he ever made when he passed on Dan Marino and Marino made him pay for it in the AFC Championship passing for 421 yards and 3 Touchdowns!!!.. Thanks a lot Chuck!!.smfh🤬
Stupidity knows no era. We still see teams do this in 2024 and I will never, for my life, understand how. How is it possible that Allen goes 7th, Marino goes 27th, Mahomes goes 10th, Wilson in 3rd round, Hurts in 3rd round, Jackson 30th etc etc. Mind blowing ineptitude.
That's was the STUPIDEST THING NOLL EVER DID. From 1980 to 1990 in 11 seasons Noll NEVER made another Super Bowl and won a total of 3 playoff games. Never made another Super Bowl. It is ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISTAKES IN STEELER HISTORY! UNFORGIVEABLE.
What? So the Steelers could get stuck with a guy who only cared about his passing stats? I loved Marino but he refused to change his game when Jimmie Johnson came to the Dolphins and Johnson said screw it and retired again. As a big Dolphin fan back to the early 70s I wish they hadn't drafted him.
@@williamgullett5911 If Miami had a defense worth a dime, Miami could've walked out of the 80's with at least 1 if not SB's, but Miami had no D to compliment the Offense.
@@Marco1973est bs. I’ve been a Dolphin fan back to the early 70s and that Miami defense, while not the best in the league was in the top 10 at worst. Time to start blaming either Shula or Marino. Or both.
@@Marco1973est That 49ers team was an all time great team. The Dolphins ran into a buzzsaw. Marinos contribution was in the speed of the game. Fast 3 and outs put a lot of pressure on that defense…that had to go against Montana, Craig, Rathman, and a system nobody, including very good defenses like the Bears, Philadelphia, and the Giants…none could stop the 49ers. That SB was all about the 49ers greatness. I felt no disappointment as a Dolphin fan after that game. I knew the better team won and they were impressive
People don’t realize this, but Dan Marino created the rumor about his cocaine use. It’s because he didn’t want to be drafted early. He wanted to be drafted by Miami because Miami, Florida. had the best blow. .
Dan Marino had everything it took to wear the black and yellow... The toughness the ambition and desire to win and the Pittsburgh Steelers had the formula and winning spirit... A huge mistake on the part of Chuck Noll...
And not only that...he grew up in pittsburgh area and later stated his boyhood dream was to play QB for the steelers. I'd venture to say had pittsburgh drafted him...we'd have probably 2 more superbowls.
This has been on my mind for decades..where do I start?? First off, in the NFL draft, you look for the best possible player... Marino had enough exposure (playing for the University of Pittsburgh) to be seen on the National level. In fact, Marino was in the backyard of the Steelers, just a few miles away. Let's also look at another factor... Bradshaw wasn't going to last forever.. he was 35 at the start of the 1983 NFL season.. that's considered the backend of a career at that age in the NFL.. Mark Malone and Cliff Stout were no match for Dan Marino.. so yes, I would have drafted Marino.. the idea of multiple Super Bowl titles boggles the mind.. Miami had an offense but other than the 1982 team.. their defense was questionable at times. 1984, the 49ers went 15-1... the ONLY loss that year was to the Pittsburgh Steelers at Candlestick Park.. the Steelers made the playoffs in 1984.. a high scoring loss to Marino and the Dolphins.. had the Steelers have Marino, SB XIX might have been a different story... defense, as all Steelers fans know that its the bread and butter of the team, along with the running game... in fact, the first 2 Super Bowl win ..IX and X were mainly due to their awesome defense.. XII and XIV were offensive oriented victories. Marino would have kept the Steelers in contention in the 80's.. him along with the defense would still have dominated the AFC. Another footnote, it was Marino and Dolphins that gave the 1985 Bears their only loss of the season on a Monday Night Football game.. I truly believe that had Marino been on the Steelers, they might have gotten a few rings in the 80's 🏆 This is what happens when you believe in false rumors instead of investigating it yourself. Marino is in the Hall of Fame.. a gigantic missed opportunity for both, the Steelers organization and Marino himself, not getting a SB ring.
This is a stupid conversation, Brady was a 199 pick, you never know how someone at QB will develop, most first round QB’s don’t pan out, go for D and O line first
I picture Marino took the occasional hit from a joint being passed around at a party, and then people turned it into him wearing Laremy Tunsil's gas mask bong and just constantly being baked. Like they gave him the Dundie for Doobie Doobie Pothead Stoner of the Year.
Those rumors were well-founded and it was not just Marijuana. Marino did not have a great Senior year. Party goers in the Pittsburgh area at that time had plenty of "Marino sightings". The Steelers had Bradshaw who was still well within his prime, and Stoudt and Malone. Hindsight is 20-20 and nobody could have predicted Bradshaw's arm injury, but I have no doubt that Marino would have likely given the Steelers at least one more Super Bowl in the 80's.
I am sorry but Dan Marino wasn't God's gift to the QB position! He put up a lot of great stats, but so what. So did Dan Fouts and a dozen others. I loved watching him, but he rarely took the Dolphins past one playoff win. A lot of excuses were made as to why he did not get back to the Super Bowl, but a lot of that is on him.
If you had the Steeler Front Office of 2024 or even K Colberts regime drafting for the Steelers in '83, they take Marino (Under them Steelers have drafted some questionable players..some bad..Martavis Bryant some worked out very well...Antonio Brown)
Shula picked up the phone, called Foge and asked him if the rumors were true..Foge said “no” then the Dolphins took him…I guess the Steelers didn’t have phones back then
Maybe Shula picked up the phone and said. “Good job, the rumor worked.” Every year it seems there is some kid that slides in the draft due to rumors. Some seem based, some seem intentionally amplified. Maybe that was a game played even back then. However, since he grew up in Pittsburgh and played at Pitt, the Steeler scouting department shouldn’t have even needed a phone. I love the what ifs, and I’m a Steeler fan, but I wonder if he would have had the same career in Pittsburgh under Noll as in Miami under Shula. Folks say the same what ifs about the teams that passed on Brady. Sometimes the player, coach, organization, and situation just match up seemingly perfectly. Similarly, I wonder about the QB graveyard in Cleveland. What would their careers have looked like if they’d have fell on draft day to another team.
@@jefferytokarsky1930 great points !
Marino was one of the best pure passers in history. Arm strength, quick release, accuracy, acumen. He had it all. But his Senior year stats were disappointing and the rumors were probably not just rumors. I can't blame the Steelers for being jittery over picking him as so were a lot of other teams and it was not really fair to put Fazio on the spot like that(if that's what actually happened) as everyone knew Fazio could not say definitively if the rumors were true or not. In any case, credit to Marino for straightening himself out and becoming a HOF quarterback.
@@TSimo113 you shouldn’t spread nonsense “Marino's stock in the 1983 draft dropped due to a bad season and rumors of drug problems during his senior year at the University of Pittsburgh. It has been written that Marino had to take a urinalysis before the draft to prove he was clean.
Shula heard the rumors and checked them out. He was delighted when Marino was still available after 26 players, including five quarterbacks, had been drafted.
Two seasons later, the Dolphins are preparing to battle the San Francisco 49ers in Super Bowl XIX Sunday. 'Everybody's trying to figure out now why he was drafted so late,' Shula said. 'We had a strong commitment on Marino that others did not. We heard rumors, different kinds of rumors.
'We checked them out and did not hear anything that changed our minds. I called (Pitt Coach) Foge Fazio and he gave me his strongest recomendation. We knew all we needed to know.'”
marino also had a down senior season
marino wasn't the only mistake at quarterback that the steelers made. the steelers had unitas and len dawson before they went to other teams and had great careers
Don’t forget Kenny Pickett. Awful pick.
@@TommyC503Can we thank Marino for the Kenny selection?
@@krzykrisWe couldn't risk it happening twice.
That doesn't help me feel better about Chuck not drafting Marino.
A big miss by a lot of teams. I don't know what's worse, passing on Marino for a different position player or picking another QB instead of him (except for Elway). People also forget the Steelers made the AFC Championship game in 1984 and lost to the Marino-led Dolphins.
That Steelers team wasnt that great. They gave up over 40 points and were never in that game.
Not just Elway. Consider this: Tony Eason stopped a Marino S.B. run in '85, Jim Kelly did the same in '90, '92, and '95, and Elway also did the same in '98. And they all outplayed Marino in those 5 games. .And yet Marino outplayed them all in their Reg. Season games---BUT NOT IN THE PLAYOFFS. .
As to your other point, keep in mind that the Dolphins could have drafted HOFer Darrell Green instead of Marino in '83. Green played good enough to help his team win 5 championship games while Marino only played good enough to help his team win 1.Green played good enough to help his team win 2 S.B.'s while Marino played bad enough to help his team lose his only S.B. game. Green was the next guy drafted after Marino.
@@dennismumford6108 Green could lockdown one half of the field. Any
coach would rather have that than a bombs away QB. Those were the
days when a great defense could beat a great offense. I'm sure this was
discussed in those meetings before the draft. The Dolphins rolled the
dice like any other. Green did not play good, he played great!! Also, the NFL
was starting to get pass happy. Fouts, Marino, offenses that opened up the
game. So picking Green was a no brainer. His abilities were well known to
Washington. Same as Lott for San Fran, or Blout for Pittsburgh. The sleepless
nights by coordinators when designing plays must have been frustrating when
you saw their numbers. You could only fool them once or twice. That was it.
@@tomodonovan5931 You make some excellent points. Add this to it---the Blackwood brothers were getting older and possibly a little slower, so the addition of Green in '83 would have been very timely for that Dolphins Defense. Hard to say who would have drafted Marino then, but he probably would not have had the same "instant chance for success" that he was afforded with that Dolphin team in '83 and beyond.
If you think Terry was going to be around for awhile, fine, but Marino was the local talent and if you had questions about his character all you have to do is visit the university and talk to his coach and to Marino himself when the season is over. Marino was too good a talent to pass over.
Yeah and this mistake made over 40 years ago continues to haunt the Steelers to this day. The whole drafting Kenny Pickett was just because he went to the Pittsburgh college like Dan Marino did. It was obvious that Kenny Pickett was NEVER gonna be anywhere near Dan Marino. PS passing on Dan Marino just for smoking weed is stupid.
The rumors around PGH was that he was on coke not weed.
He was definitely using coke(someone in my family knew him and did it with him)but so were a lot of folks at that time
coke was big in 83. i remember.
Then he go's to Miami!!!!!!!!
Goes to Miami
Learn proper grammar
It was cocaine, not marijuana.
Around the Pitt campus, Marino's nickname was "Snowdust". Years later, I became friends with his brother-in-law (we've since lost touch) but those "Rumors" about Marino turned out to be not only credible but also true.
Fortunately, he got clean and obviously went on to have an outstanding Hall of Fame career.
A Myron Cope Channel! What a cool surprise. A "Cleve Brownies" fan for 60+ years but I loved Myron.
mary wanna lol
Cope was great one of kind talent and a distinct personality. I stood in line with him waiting for a rental at the airport. Began talking to me butter-smooth as if he'd known me as a neighbor for years and years. One of those human beings you will miss dearly without ever knowing the person.
I love him not throwing people under the bus and taking responsibility. Also, they couldn't foresee what happened with Bradshaw's operation or with Gabe Rivera. Hey, if they thought he could replace Mean Joe Greene then he had to be a great player.
MISS YA MYRON !
GOD BLESS YOU !
Seven guys made the Pro Football Hall of Fame from this draft. Eric Dickerson and Bruce Matthews also went ahead of Marino. Jim Covert also played at Pitt and went ahead of Marino. Jim Kelly was also drafted before Marino. Seven other guys in the first round also made at least one Pro Bowl.
Todd Blackledge was the biggest bust of this draft. He was seventh overall and actually picked ahead of Kelly, Eason, O'Brien, and Marino. He was the second QB picked and was by far the worst of the six. He was the only QB who ended up being horrible. Eason had some good games, and O'Brien had some good games.
Blackledge had a better senior year than Marino. I can see the temptation pick him high in the draft. QB choices are often a roll of the dice. Great college QB's don't always translate to great ones in the NFL for sure. In fact there have been way more 1st round busts than gems.
@@TSimo113 That's probably because a lot of these "great quarterbacks" are really just products of great systems. I am much more impressed by quarterbacks on horrible football teams. Good offensive lines and good receivers can make an average quarterback seem great. Quarterbacks with Heisman trophies have especially been big busts.
Penn State has had quite a few quarterback busts. John Schafer was lucky to have a good supporting cast, which is why he was always "winning." And I'm not sure what to say about Kerry Collins. Doug Strang seemed like a decent QB, although he never got much credit for it.
Marino's senior season was also Foge Fazio's first season as coach. The wheels started to come off Pitt football when Jackie Sherrill quit. Pitt was #1 in 1982 when Notre Dame upset them. Pitt football collapsed to 3-7-1 in 1984. Pitt football hasn't been the same since.
Incidentally, I'm a Mountaineer, so I hate both Pitt and PSU.
@@ChrisBakerauthor Yeah looking at the list of Heisman QBs, most have not had consistent success.
Davey O'Brien
Andre Ware
Angelo Bertelli
Baker Mayfield
Bryce Young
Caleb Williams
Cam Newton
Carson Palmer
Charlie Ward
Chris Weinke
Danny Wuerffel
Doug Flutie
Gary Beban
Gino Torretta
Jameis Winston
Jason White
Jim Plunkett
Joe Burrow
John Huarte
Johnny Lujack
Johnny Manziel
Kyler Murray
Lamar Jackson
Marcus Mariota
Matt Leinart
Pat Sullivan
Paul Hornung
Robert Griffin III
Roger Staubach
Sam Bradford
Steve Spurrier
Terry Baker
Tim Tebow
Troy Smith
Ty Detmer
Vinny Testaverde
Hardly anybody ever talks about the fact that the Steelers also could have picked Darrell Green in that same draft. Green was picked after Marino. This was a time when the Steelers had no pass defense, and Green ended up being one of the greatest DB's of all time.
Does anybody seriously think that Chuck Noll ever would have allowed Marino to put up all those passing numbers that Marino got under Don Shula?
If Rivera had turned out to be as great as expected, nobody would be talking about this. It was only because of that stupid car accident that people do. The Steelers' luck wasn't all that much different from the same luck that the Celtics had with Len Bias.
That wasn't the half of it as I stated in an earlier post in this thread go to each round, look who they picked, and look who they passed up.
As I was reading the '83 draft I just couldn't believe what I was reading I never realized the talent that they let slip through their fingers.
@@KeithFroehlich07 I know. They not only passed on Marino, but they passed on guys like Albert Lewis and Charles Mann as well, among others.
@@jab1289 Amazing that Richard Dent was pick #203.
Yeah, but…did you see Gabe Rivera in college? He was unbelievable. A Steelers defensive archetype if I ever saw one. It was a quality decision at the time it was made. It’s not Chuck’s fault the guy ended his own career off the field.
@@TheRealDebussyFarts Gabe was the real deal and a great draft pick. He just had an accident.
Part of me wonders if the Steelers of that era would have utilized Marino correctly.
I will always find that notion absurd. Few elite QB’s just “fall into” a perfect situation. Miami was far from a perfect fit for Marino….average WR’s at best, average defense and no running game to speak of. Had Cleveland taken Allen first he would be just as good as he is now because elite talent supersedes everything. Montana and Mahomes were put in perfect situations.
@@axe2grind244 I don’t mean so much that the Steelers were bad. They even had some success around that time. I mean that they may not have utilized his passing ability to its full potential considering how run heavy they were traditionally. Or…….he could have been the perfect compliment to the run game and Louis Lipps would be in the hall of fame. Never know, I guess.
If he would have smoked marijuana, that probably would have been OK. But marrywanna...that's a hard pass.
“Mary-wanna…” 😂😂😂
Glad Danny came to Miami 🐬
In 1983, how could they have reasonably expected Terry Bradshaw to stick around for several more years? Bradshaw was drafted in 1970. He was very good, but 13 seasons is a long time. Especially in the 1980’s. They really needed to be thinking about a replacement with a 13 year veteran at QB.
Chuck Noll was such a classy guy, not willing to throw anyone under the bus, always about the collective.
Chucks biggest mistake wasn't passing up Marino , it was NOT passing up this interview
The Myron Cope ask a question for 2 min then taunt the greatest coach in Steeler history interview.
I feel like the steelers drafted pickett because of the marino mistake thinking pickett was the next marino, but pickett is no marino that's for sure.
Great job Jets passing up Marino to pick Ken O'brien. Still haunts me as a Jets fan
I'm sure we can all agree that the Steelers BIGGEST mistake EVER was cutting Ed 'Al Bundy" O'Neill in training camp -- all downhill from there
The rumor was Cocaine, not weed.
@joeshmoe4671 Right. And, the rumors (no matter how true) scared a lot of teams away. The only people I know of who would have drafted Marino in the top-15 were Ernie Accorsi (Colt GM at the time. He wanted a pick in the top-10 of the 83 draft in any Elway trade so he could draft Marino) and Norm Pollom (Bills GM. He said that he had them rated Elway-Kelly-Marino).
I was living in the Burgh back in 1983 and remember that famous draft very well. And just like any Steelers fan, I wanted Dan as our next QB. But at the same time, I was never once convinced that it would really happen. It just seemed too good to be true whether the rumors had anything to do with it or not. There was hope, but I just don’t think it was in the cards.
The Steelers also passed on Brian Urlacher.
Marino would have had 3 SB with the Steelers.
Most NFL players played hard, but also partied hard, which means most consumed mind-altering substances. Not habitually, but recreationally. So I just don't buy the "drug" excuse. The Steelers, along with other teams, simply overlooked Marino the way many teams overlooked Montana in the '79 draft.
Hindsight is always 20/20.
Myron = Legendary announcer in the 412. Chuck a Legend and protecting the fact that Art Rooney II that wanted to pass on Marino. As It was said that "the Chief" never did forgive his son for passing on that draft pick. (Art II was the one who said that). ( Proof is in the way that Chuck said two things: 1st.) "it was a collaboration". (Meaning alot of arguing in family business as was the Steelers at that time.
2nd.) Chuck states, " I take the accountability on that one". Meaning ultimately, he sided with Art II based on team needing to replace #75 Greene and Chuck thinking they had the QB situation under control. ( Boy was that a miss). Spent my entire 80's pissed that Miami would whoop Steelers ass on the regular......
And now they selected Pickett becuase they did not want that mistake to happen again. So far it looks like 2 huge mistakes.
@anthonybatulis6516 Who would have been the better pick in that spot? That was a weak class; it’s not like the Bears when they took Trubisky instead of Mahomes.
Gm's in 2023: He smokes weed. Team's owner: Pick him 1st round or your fired.
Marino worked out for the Steelers in private in Three Rivers Stadium in Chuck Noll wanted to draft him. It was Art Rooney Jr. who insisted they could have Bradshaw for three more years.
They were spooked by the rumors, but Noll still wanted to pick him
But here's the big problem, look at who they drafted in each round, and look who they passed up in each round. They didn't have to trade up or down, and look at the guys they passed up.
That team should have been set for another decade.
If I were to write a book I would title it The Pittsburgh Steelers of 1983: The Dynasty that never happened.
Though it was antithetical to the Steelers at the time, if ever there was a year to get Rivera and then move back into the first round and get Marino (e.g. give up your #2, and #1 next year) this was indeed the year.
Here is the worst part of that '83 draft for the Steelers---they could have had HOFer Darrell Green. Green was the player selected right after Marino. They would have picked up a guy that played good enough to help his team win 5 championships--3 Conference and 2 S.B.'s. Marino only played good enough to help his team win 1 championship--the '84 Conference Championship.
Thank you. Everyone keeps talking as if Marino would have been the same on their team.
The reality is that he had total control of the offensive in Miami and still couldn't get to more than one SB.
Hence the word, TEAM😅😅😅😅😅
@@fredwright9755 And the TEAM needs a QB that could get it done in the playoffs. Unfortunately, Marino was NOT that guy a majority of the time. And he definitely WASN'T that guy in 75% of his championship games. Very unfortunate for his teammates.
@@RK-um9tu Total control? I had no idea Marino was the GM as well! What sort of idiotic notion is that?
@@dennismumford6108 So did he not nod at you at the airport or something? Is that why you dedicate you sad little life to bad mouthing Marino on every video about him? What a loser.
gabe rivera died tragically. all ny jets fans criticize the jets for not taking marino but 25 other clubs passed on him
Gabe Rivera was an absolute monster. I can understand why the Steelers drafted him over Marino. Still sucks considering what could have been, but I don’t think the Steelers made a mistake.
Awesome clip
No issue with the steroids or drugs the other guys were doing back then
WHAT IF....The Steelers had transitioned from Unitas to Marino to Bradshaw & eventually to Big Ben. WOW
Bradshaw was before Marino. And, if they had Unitas, they may not have been bad enough to get Bradshaw by 1970.
@@jab1289 my bad i got mixed up in my what-ifs -- and yeah you are right on that about Johnny U
That pic of Noll commanding TB is priceless!! If that didn't sum up their relationship...
Johnny Unitas and Lenny Dawson too.
It’s pretty fitting he ended up with 420 touchdowns.
Marino always traveled by train because he liked doing rails. 🚂
Yea and Jim Kelly was right next to him.
Worst decision in NFL history.
Reminds me of my Niners taking Solomon Thomas 3rd overall when Mahomes went I think 8 picks later.
Or Mooch not drafting Brady.
@@starguy2718 passing on Brady and taking Carmazzi was Walsh's decision. Walsh loved carmazzi at the time and thought he was the best QB of the draft.
@@jpete3027666 Also, I don't think that Brady has the same career in SF (or a lot of places). If he is drafted in SF late in the 2000 draft (when Rattay was drafted), I think he beats out Carmazzi, but doesn't play a whole lot until 2004. That year, they do a little better, but Erickson is still fired, and Mike Nolan still comes in as HC to replace him. And, if they don't get Smith, they get A-Rod. As a result, Brady is gone in a few years.
@@jab1289 yep success as a QB has a lot to do with the team and situation they are drafted to
So he did some drugs, big deal. It was a kid thing for him because he moved on to be a star and a good person.
his college roommate said the same thing. it never happened
I remember thinking at the time that you know what.....Noll just picked the biggest, meanest, toughest guy in the draft. I have no problem with that.
Passed up Marino over pot haha
People are overanalyzing and Noll basically said what it was. It was the drug rumors. Now in 2023, this seems like no big deal with some weed, but back then it was a dealbreaker. And what happened to Rivera was completely unforeseeable.
Gabe Rivera even with hindsight was the right choice. Senior Sack would have been the Joe Greene of the 80”s.
Steelers passed up Joe Montana another local boy twice in 1979 for the likes of Whirlpool Greg Hawthorne whom everyone knew was an athlete playing football. Then the Steelers took another project they didn’t need in the second round Zack Valentine .
If the Steelers had taken Montana with one of those picks this conversation would never happen
I think Chuck Knoll really liked Terry Bradshaw, he just thought he had to be mean to Terry to get him to perform, some coaches take the strict, hard nose approach too far. Terry never realized how much Chuck Knoll liked him, or wanted him as QB. This video proves it.
Imagine Marino, changing the course of the Steelers organization, if he would of been drafted by the team 🤔
I'm sure a Super Bowl would've came out of it,.. or two 😅
😌🙏 Legendary Myron Cope, may you walk in heaven with the Lord.
Who and what is "Marry Wanna"?
In 1983 the Pittsburgh Steelers were very unfortunate that the pick before Dan Marino which they used to draft Defensive lineman Gabe Rivera who had the potential to be another mean Joe Greene had that career ending injury via car accident. That accident could've happened to anyone including Dan Marino. So what if everything happened the other way around? In that case Dan Marino would have become an unknown and Gabe Rivera would have been a hall of famer, possibility with a few Superbowl titles. So what I'm saying is, unfortunate tragedies could happen to anyone anytime, so the 1983 Pittsburgh Steelers weren't dumb by drafting Gabe Rivera, they were simply unfortunate after all this unfortunate tragedy could have happened to Dan Marino whether if were drafted by the Steelers or Dolphins or any team for that matter.
Collegiate potential elite ability transferring to pros hope aside Rivera never displayed NFL on field potential dominance of Mean Joe Greene by any specific metric during his short unfortunate stint , Mean Joe Greene illustrated his greatness emmediately.RIP Gabe Rivera
With all due respect to Gabe Rivera, R.I.P.
The Steelers had a necessity..a replacement for Terry Bradshaw who was 35 at the start of the 1983 season.
Most teams, about 80 to 90% of them draft the best athlete available at the moment their turn comes up in the draft. Marino had national exposure and considered to be highly regarded by most experts. How long did the Steelers organization think Bradshaw was going to be around??? Mark Malone and Cliff Stout weren't in the same category as Bradshaw and certainly not on the same level as Marino. In the 1983 playoff game against the Raiders, according to Sports Illustrated, Stout was sacked more than Rome in that game. Marino had a quick release of the football, a plus...
It truly was a ginormous mistake in not taking Marino in the draft.
As for the accident, yes you're right, it can happen to basically anyone... but this accident happened in Texas and according to reports, Rivera was going above the speed limit as well, that's something to consider... each person has different views on driving a car...but the accident is irrelevant.
The NEED of the Steelers wasn't met... a QB has a higher priority than a DL.
Comparing Rivera to Joe Greene is unfair.. a Joe Greene comes around once in a lifetime.. there's only one Michael Jordan, one Wayne Gretzk, one Tom Brady, one Hank Aaron, etc... a Dan Marino is a rare QB from the start... Miami seized the opportunity but never built that running game to compliment the passing game... their defense was questionable as well...Marino on the Steelers would have made them dominatable in the 80's.
I wish Noll drafted Marino and Tomlin passed up on Kenny Pickett!!!!
Who should Tomlin have picked instead of Pickett?
Would have won a fee more Lombardi's with Marino at QB. Bradshaw was at the end of his career even without the throwing arm injury.
That's what us Dolphin fans thought was gonna happen when the Dolphins went to that SB against SF. Then it just turned into Marino being a Stat whore who refused to change his game when Jimmie Johnson was hired. Johnson couldn't get Marino to buy into his system and all Marino cared about were his passing stats. Johnson said screw it and retired again
Yeah, that decision probably cost the Steelers and Marino 2 or 3 rings.
In my opinion was Chuck Noll's Biggest Mistake he ever made when he passed on Dan Marino and Marino made him pay for it in the AFC Championship passing for 421 yards and 3 Touchdowns!!!.. Thanks a lot Chuck!!.smfh🤬
Stupidity knows no era. We still see teams do this in 2024 and I will never, for my life, understand how. How is it possible that Allen goes 7th, Marino goes 27th, Mahomes goes 10th, Wilson in 3rd round, Hurts in 3rd round, Jackson 30th etc etc. Mind blowing ineptitude.
The best QB to never won a Super Bowl
This is why Kenny piccett got drafted
Who was the better draft choice in that spot?
That's was the STUPIDEST THING NOLL EVER DID. From 1980 to 1990 in 11 seasons Noll NEVER made another Super Bowl and won a total of 3 playoff games. Never made another Super Bowl. It is ONE OF THE BIGGEST MISTAKES IN STEELER HISTORY! UNFORGIVEABLE.
People have asked me if I could go back in time and change one thing I would change that draft. I would make sure the steelers draft Dam Marino
What? So the Steelers could get stuck with a guy who only cared about his passing stats? I loved Marino but he refused to change his game when Jimmie Johnson came to the Dolphins and Johnson said screw it and retired again. As a big Dolphin fan back to the early 70s I wish they hadn't drafted him.
@@williamgullett5911 If Miami had a defense worth a dime, Miami could've walked out of the 80's with at least 1 if not SB's, but Miami had no D to compliment the Offense.
@@Marco1973est bs. I’ve been a Dolphin fan back to the early 70s and that Miami defense, while not the best in the league was in the top 10 at worst. Time to start blaming either Shula or Marino. Or both.
@@williamgullett5911 SB XIX was whos fault? Shula or Marino ? Couldn't have been the Defenses' fault who let up over 30 Pts that game.........
@@Marco1973est That 49ers team was an all time great team. The Dolphins ran into a buzzsaw. Marinos contribution was in the speed of the game. Fast 3 and outs put a lot of pressure on that defense…that had to go against Montana, Craig, Rathman, and a system nobody, including very good defenses like the Bears, Philadelphia, and the Giants…none could stop the 49ers. That SB was all about the 49ers greatness. I felt no disappointment as a Dolphin fan after that game. I knew the better team won and they were impressive
Raiders would have had 3 more SBs with him.
Let's act like Dan Marino, after 1984, was ever the best quarterback of his era.
People don’t realize this, but Dan Marino created the rumor about his cocaine use. It’s because he didn’t want to be drafted early. He wanted to be drafted by Miami because Miami, Florida. had the best blow. .
Dan Marino had everything it took to wear the black and yellow... The toughness the ambition and desire to win and the Pittsburgh Steelers had the formula and winning spirit... A huge mistake on the part of Chuck Noll...
And not only that...he grew up in pittsburgh area and later stated his boyhood dream was to play QB for the steelers. I'd venture to say had pittsburgh drafted him...we'd have probably 2 more superbowls.
This has been on my mind for decades..where do I start??
First off, in the NFL draft, you look for the best possible player... Marino had enough exposure (playing for the University of Pittsburgh) to be seen on the National level. In fact, Marino was in the backyard of the Steelers, just a few miles away. Let's also look at another factor... Bradshaw wasn't going to last forever.. he was 35 at the start of the 1983 NFL season.. that's considered the backend of a career at that age in the NFL.. Mark Malone and Cliff Stout were no match for Dan Marino.. so yes, I would have drafted Marino.. the idea of multiple Super Bowl titles boggles the mind.. Miami had an offense but other than the 1982 team.. their defense was questionable at times.
1984, the 49ers went 15-1... the ONLY loss that year was to the Pittsburgh Steelers at Candlestick Park.. the Steelers made the playoffs in 1984.. a high scoring loss to Marino and the Dolphins.. had the Steelers have Marino, SB XIX might have been a different story... defense, as all Steelers fans know that its the bread and butter of the team, along with the running game... in fact, the first 2 Super Bowl win ..IX and X were mainly due to their awesome defense.. XII and XIV were offensive oriented victories. Marino would have kept the Steelers in contention in the 80's.. him along with the defense would still have dominated the AFC. Another footnote, it was Marino and Dolphins that gave the 1985 Bears their only loss of the season on a Monday Night Football game.. I truly believe that had Marino been on the Steelers, they might have gotten a few rings in the 80's 🏆
This is what happens when you believe in false rumors instead of investigating it yourself. Marino is in the Hall of Fame.. a gigantic missed opportunity for both, the Steelers organization and Marino himself, not getting a SB ring.
And the Patriots picked "Champagne" ....more like Milwaukee's Best Tony Eason... Had to watch Marino in the AFC East every yeat
That's a lot of words to say "We f---ed Myron".......
Mary wanna ? Who’s she?
This is a stupid conversation, Brady was a 199 pick, you never know how someone at QB will develop, most first round QB’s don’t pan out, go for D and O line first
Erroneously everybody thought Marino had drug problems. Same with Warren Sapp, both ended up in Canton.
That's a joke, right?. Sapp HAD drug problems and wound up homeless through limitless stupidity.
That is a record for the longest question ever?
"He smoked Mary Wanna."
I picture Marino took the occasional hit from a joint being passed around at a party, and then people turned it into him wearing Laremy Tunsil's gas mask bong and just constantly being baked. Like they gave him the Dundie for Doobie Doobie Pothead Stoner of the Year.
Steelers easily have 8-10 SBs right now if Marino was their QB in the 80s and 90s
Those rumors were well-founded and it was not just Marijuana. Marino did not have a great Senior year. Party goers in the Pittsburgh area at that time had plenty of "Marino sightings". The Steelers had Bradshaw who was still well within his prime, and Stoudt and Malone. Hindsight is 20-20 and nobody could have predicted Bradshaw's arm injury, but I have no doubt that Marino would have likely given the Steelers at least one more Super Bowl in the 80's.
He had a pretty miserable senior season. Shockingly bad, 20 fewer touchdowns then his junior year.
you fumbled that one chuck! not a fan of the steelers so thanks for that one!
I’ve never heard this, awesome! He should have been w the Steelers. Wasted 20 years.
Bad move
I picture marino throwing to Louis Lipps and cant believe they passed on him
I am sorry but Dan Marino wasn't God's gift to the QB position! He put up a lot of great stats, but so what. So did Dan Fouts and a dozen others. I loved watching him, but he rarely took the Dolphins past one playoff win. A lot of excuses were made as to why he did not get back to the Super Bowl, but a lot of that is on him.
he was better than anybody the steelers had including and especially bradshaw
I miss Myron
Wow a 2 minute question
Myron couldn't Cope with it.
Marino was Tom Brady before Brady without the superbowls.
“He smokes Mary Wanna..”
They made sure they took Big Ben 20 years later. It worked out in the end
Hmmm-HA! We miss Myron's insight.
If you had the Steeler Front Office of 2024 or even K Colberts regime drafting for the Steelers in '83, they take Marino (Under them Steelers have drafted some questionable players..some bad..Martavis Bryant some worked out very well...Antonio Brown)
Never could understand how Myron Cope was a Steelers broadcast legend.....Cope asks a 2 minute question with that annoying talk through his nose voice
The marijuana rumor was started by the dolphins 😂
We/Chuck blew it not getting Dan. MF
People from the different parts of the US just don't have accents that thick anymore. Everything has become so homogenized. "Mary Wanna" 😅
Sounds familiar...
Imagine passing on a elite prospect today because they smoke marry wanna.
Pittsburgh Sports Gold.
I wouldn't have touched Marino either
Chuck really messed up poor choice
Mary Juana? Don't forget her boyfriend Juan Hung-low.
I'm still ma
I'm still mad 40 years later stupid right would have 10 super bowls by now
Merry wanna! Lol
MARY-WANNA ! 🤣🤣🤣🤣