【Elite: Dangerous】Investigate the center of Thargoid Maelstrom and defeat Glaive solo【Spoiler alert】
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- As I mentioned in the title, it is super spoilerific!
Beware if you want to see it for yourself.
Thargoid Pulse Neutraliser (tech broker required) has made it possible to go to the center of Thargoid Maelstrom, so we immediately went to investigate.
And there it was... It was the Thargoid Titan.
At a glance, it looks very similar to the Thargoid Structure.
The Structure looked a bit abandoned, but this one is still alive.
It is armed with a large number of turrets and missiles, and even if it is destroyed, it will come back to life.
Furthermore, it uses a special electromagnetic force field over a wide area? If you are within the range of the electromagnetic force field, the ship's module will be destroyed.
If you are within range of this, the ship's modules will malfunction, the temperature of the hull will rise, and the ship itself will be shaken with great force.
However, if you keep the ship cool at all times, the Titan itself will not attack you that much.
A vent beam is recommended.
In case you are wondering, it seems that it is impossible to defeat the Titan in its current state.
Around the Titan are Interceptor, Scout, and Hunter. Glaive (Shuriken).
Glaive's attack power itself is not that strong, but it is very agile and accurate in aiming at us.
Its accuracy is such that not even the Boost Orbit of Krait MK2 can avoid its attacks.
Maybe if it is faster than 600 it can be avoided (untested).
Furthermore, it frequently uses Lightning & Corrosion Missile.
It is quite difficult to avoid Lightning. Even if you think you have avoided them, they will hit you! But they will hit you even if you think you have avoided them.
If you think you have avoided them, they will hit you. If you get hit by a Lightning, you will be hit by a Glaive;
If you are hit by Lightning, Glaive will put up a shield.
During Lightning, the shield recovers at an alarming rate, so it is best not to attack.
After Lightning, it is quite likely that four corrosive missiles will be fired at you at the same time, so be careful.
Since it is usually impossible to avoid them, it is recommended to use Caustic sink.
Glaive itself does not have a heart, so its physical strength is not that great.
However, every time it is hit by a Lightning, it puts up a shield or recovers.
It is very difficult to escape from Glaive, and it is a very troublesome opponent when there are no friendlies.
P.S.
Glaive seems to sometimes fire missiles that force the FSD to restart.
Glaive itself is also at least 650+ fast, so it would be extremely difficult to escape unscathed after being interdicted or hyperdicted.
Glaive also seems to use an EMP that destroys the guardian module used by Orthrus.
In the case of Orthrus, the EMP was released at the same time as the shutdown pulse,
Glaive seems to be effective only when it is in close proximity.
In the case of AXCZ, three of them come out at once and are destroyed in no time.
They are weak attackers, but really nasty opponents...
This is the end of this survey.
Composition of the ship ↓↓↓↓
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タイトルにも書きましたが、超絶ネタバレしてます！
自分の目で見たい方はご注意を。
Thargoid Pulse Neutraliser（要テックブローカー）により、Thargoid Maelstromの中心部に行くことが可能となった為、早速ですが調査してまいりました。
そこにあったもの...それはThargoid Titanなるモノでした。
ぱっと見た感じ、Thargoid Structureと見た目が酷似してます。
Structureの方はちょっと廃墟な感じがありましたが、こっちはちゃんと生きてます。
そして大量のタレット＆ミサイルで武装してて、しかも壊しても復活します。
更に、広範囲に及ぶ特殊な電磁力場？のようなものを使ってきます。
これの範囲内にいると、船のモジュールが故障し、船体の温度が上昇し、船自体が凄い勢いで揺さぶられます。
ただ船を常に冷却していれば、Titan自体はそんなに攻撃はしてきません。
ベントビームがオススメされます。
※ 因みに現状では倒せないと思われます。
Titanの周囲には、Titanから出てきたInterceptor、Scout、そしてHunter...Glaive手裏剣がいます。
Glaiveは攻撃力自体はそんなに強くないですが、非常に俊敏で正確にこちらを狙って攻撃してきます。
その正確さは、クレイトMK2のブーストオービットですら攻撃を避ける事が出来ません。
もしかしたら600以上の速さなら避けることが出来るかも（未検証）
更にライトニング＆腐食ミサイルも頻繁に使ってきます。
ライトニングを避けるのはかなり難しいです。避けた！って思ってもしっかり当ててきます。
なんなら、ラムしながらしてくることもあります。。；
ライトニングに当たってしまうと、Glaiveはシールドを張ります。
ライトニング中はシールドが驚異的な速さで回復するので、攻撃しない方がいいでしょう。
ライトニング後は結構な確率で、腐食ミサイルを４発同時に撃ってくるので注意です。
たいてい避けれないので、Caustic sink使用おススメです。
尚、Glaive自体は心臓が無いので体力はそれ程でもありません。
が、ライトニングに当たる度にシールドを張る、もしくは回復します。
逃げるのも一苦労しますし、友軍が居ない時は非常に厄介な相手です。
追記です。
GlaiveはFSDを強制的に再起動させるミサイルを撃ってくることがあるようです。
Glaive自体も少なくとも650以上の速さなので、インターディクトもしくはハイパーディクトされて無傷で逃げるのは至難の業でしょう。
また、GlaiveはOrthrusが使っていたガーディアンモジュールを破壊するEMPを使う様です。
Orthrusの時はシャットダウンパルスと同時にEMPも放たれていますが、
Glaiveは近くにいるだけで効果を発揮するようです。
AXCZの場合、一度に3体出てくるのであっという間に破壊されてしまいます。
攻撃力は弱いけど、本当に厄介な相手ですね...
今回の調査はここまでです。
船の構成↓↓↓
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It's funny to think that all that update 15 brought was this structure that we can barely interact with. Most I've seen players doing was bonking their heads against the structure and trying to break in glitching through the gaps in collisions.
Exploration in ED has devolved into checking out things for a moment then logging off while the "major narrative phase" takes literally 6 months to advance.
I know. Blame the PvP community. All they want is combat related stuff cause that’s all their CoD reject brains can understand
Honestly, if FD put out updates like this every 6 months instead of every 18, they might get people's attention.
I'm hoping we get to start doing more on foot to fight thargoids too. would be interesting to see a situation where we have to raid motherships for gear
@@iam_odyssey8924 most they could do regarding thargoid ground combat was some drones with recolored lasers. I wouldn't keep my hopes up if I were you
@Nosttromo I gave up hope a long time ago.
Damn, they added boss battles.
I'm never getting anywhere near that thing; I'll just have to find videos of it.
And bosses that 99.99% of the player bases , or what is left of it, will never get to see because it's locked behind a wall of requirements that make World First mythic level endgame raiding in World of Warcraft look casual.
@@richardgregory3684 Oooooof, now that is a statement xd
@@heramaaroricon4738 I didn;t mean skill either. I meant the horrific amounts of grinding you need to do to equip your mandatory top of the line, Engineered, AX weaponed to the max ship just to survive.
Imagine this combined with a multicrew ship star citizen,where people just fall down and see the ship lights ticking
Majority of Elite Dangerous Community: Can we please get new ships or atmospheric planetary landing?
FDEV: Good One. Here is Thargoid MILF.
Ur right on point my man.
But when the PvP community demands something, they get it on a silver platter
@@TheFurryMemelord You forgot /s.
I can't understand the "thargoid milf" part, can you provide sauce?
Same, I would also enjoy this source.
I'm a visual learner.
It's just a shame that the only interesting game content is buried behind such a wall of requirements that themselves are buried behind a wall of mindless grinding that hardly anyone will ever experience it. ED might look beautiful, but as a sandbox game it's deathly dull - sounds cool, doesn;tit, "be a trader, be a miner, be a bountry hunter!" - but you soon discover you just have a job in space, th novelty factor is very brief as you do the same thing hundred sof times, to get a bigger ship with more gear....to do more of the same. The Thargoid stuff is the only story narrative, but it's so deathly slow and useless unless you're willing to grind even more to get AX weapons and stuff.
Honestly, most games these days are just as grind-ey anyway. Might as well play the beautiful one like ED.
So thargoid capital ships that just like human versions cant be destroyed and dont ever move...visually it looks cool but just feel incredibly underwhelming for how many years fdev has been trying to hype this.
Why would it move
If this came out years ago it would be hype. But they dragged this shit out for TOO long.
@@jrfirefiher because mechanically it makes zero sense for something like that not to move. The fact capital ships are just a static object that park themselves and do next to nothing already felt lazy but this just feels like the same thing with a different coat of paint.
@@Milliardo__Peacecraft It's not a typical ship, but a station that can switch it's position. Like fleet carrier or megaship. So yes, it makes perfect sense that it won't move.
They could at least do the some kind of cool orchestral music when fighting them like the capital ships, I was only interested in capital ships because of that part then lost interest once it got old.
It always amazes me how when you blow up in the maelstrom right next to the titan, the pilots federation rescue rangers still have no issue getting you back.
is that's what is happening when you die?
I always assumed you were a hologram remoting into the spaceship.
@@bearwynn yes I believe the lore is that you turn into an escape pod and the rescue rangers rescue you as a part of a pilots federation agreement when you first signed up.
Also when you are blowing up, your ship is telling you to eject in your escape capsule, it's not animated though I guess because it's too hard or unnecessary.
Or how they pick you up even if you're stranded somewhere thousands of ly away
In other games you just respawn after taking a bullet to your head. I don't think trying to talk realism into respawn mechanics makes a whole lot of sense.
@@anthrazite no we need a system like the fuel rats, when you die you inhabit an occupied escape pod and someone has to come pick you up and deliver you to the nearest hospital station. If they don't get to you fast enough, PFRR will get to you eventually.
And if you're on the other side of the galaxy, just log off for a few days and you'll be back lol
I'll never understand how they managed to make such an atmospheric game so boring.
We need a good open world realistic space game
No boring, just fun
@@banreactionvideos you know Frontier is a british company right
You probably sufer from Brain led posion like most americans and have shirt atention span
then go play a broken ass game called star citizen or bitch elsewhere.
You're a braver person than me, Elite Dangerous can be a horror game at times I swear
I know exactly what you mean, man! I wouldn’t dare go close, not in my own ship at least!
Sounds and visuals are quite spectacular let's be honest
Ah yes, the 5 year old "Thargoid storyline", exciting as fungus under toenails.
You must have been extremely skilled and very well equipped to be able to make it out of there with your life, Commander. Props to you for being able to gather all this information for us. Phenomenal work out there
All this makes no sense whatsoever-
glad I left this overcomplicated mess.
This Titan is similar to the largest ancient Thargoid crash site although this Capital Ship is a smaller degree than that colossus Thargoid ship "whats part of it remains".
What if during the fight when it deploys the electromagnetic field the storm thickens and it tires to run away or hide deeper in the thargoid cloud. So it become more like hunting Moby Dick, and youd have to evesde or kill the thargoid ships to.
And your SLF Queefqueg assists you
Wow, first time I see its blue magnetic coil donut. At first, I thought you turned the NV on :P
Well done CMDR!
Tasty donut
Nice timing on the SDFN, I always mess it up.
At least you PC players get something to bang your head against. I'm on console and we've been left to rot.
That toroidal field is actually beautiful.. wow.
As a pc player who can't be bothered to grind thargoid modules, I can guarantee you my gameplay would be the same whether I'm on console or pc...
You were spared
goes into a Thargoid Maelstrom with no shields bro has balls
Default build. Shields largely useless against Thargoids as they have shield-penetrating attacks. Thus all the Hull Reinforcement and Module Reinforcement modules on his ship.
ED is not really a game, but rather a demo of how cool all these elements would be if someone actually made a real game out of them.
This "shape" of the Taranis resembles the "first 'goid settlement" released in Beyond but very much alive 😮
Thargoid titan are grown, this is not the hiveship by the way. I am sure they are saving that for later. The titan that was being exploited for the wave woke up and sent out a huge cry for help, we have been transgressing on thargoid territory for too long, they have had enough
@@samwisegamgee8773 Thargoids are transgressing into OUR territory.
No, they were here first and we began settling and building on planets very much seeded with barnacles, they have warned us again and again and trying to genocide them was crossing the line, the thsrgoids entire reaction has been based on what f-devs call escalation, it came to this because players started blasting them into dust, they have also said the thargoids have no interest in wiping humanity out. They are throwing us back and intend to stick around for awhile, f devs have also confirmed all the original lore is true, there are several thargoid families, like ants and two specifically really don't like each other. Of the two massive things they have put into game I suspect the titan is the first the second will come later when mommy shows up. Two data-mined files for a tharg-titan and tharg-hiveship exist, either way right or wrong they need to be stopped
Negative, we started moving into thargoid space and ripping stuff up while attacking them. This is karma
@@anthrazite And we didn't stop ourselves from blowing them up the first chance we got, so they closed their borders on us. Peace to war pretty damn quickly after everyone went after the funny things.
Dude, if you’re gonna switch your COVAS to a different voice, just go with Victor. His voice is oozing with gravitas.
You scooped up a part of the hull that you blasted off - what is this used for?
Caustic shields
i ask myself if we would even have a chance against these titans if they where made to have fighting power too. maybe we would have special kind of ships then just for these titans haha
As someone who's returnign to elite dangerous.. is this still a doable fight?
I left for two months what in the hell did i miss??
I left for 5 years. What is going on?!
@@Endrushmithargoids are deleting us
You missed 6 years of speculation come to pass. From the Orthrus to the Titan. This predictable game is as defined.. predictable
Nothing much. You get to look at a working thargoid mothership up close. Can
Q: you walk inside it?
A: No.
Q: Does it react to you shooting it?
A: no difference from flying close to it.
Damn, as a filthy causal I salute you Commander!
3 years in the game and I still haven't left the safety of the Rim worlds.
This is stupid, and I don't mean this as a criticism towards the CMDR.
But a single small combat ship casually cruising around this humongous alien megaship, blowing up bits of it entirely unopposed for almost 10 minutes, only to get challenged by a single fighter? What?
I find this incredibly immersion breaking and quite frankly, lame.
TBH the Thargoid behaviour is pretty much what was expected. You could see that they had a lot more than a Glaive to deal with every time they let their temperature spike, but then they went cold or silent again before things got out of hand.
Thargoid drones are canonically dumb as a sack of bricks ("rudimentary" intelligence as the codex puts it), and they have terrible vision without a strong heat source to track. They sort of own-goal'd themselves in that regard by surrounding the Titan with rocks and a giant fart cloud to obscure things. We already knew they were almost blind in there even before U15.
The reason the glaive was able stay on target is simply because it's fast and maneuverable enough that you never really get the opportunity to shake it once it's on top of you.
jump in there guns blazing with no heat management and alone and come back to us.😂 theyre following AXI sop... the goids are doing what theyre supposed to, go in there unprepared and THEN youre gonna have a rough time.
i would have died before i even reached that thing
I kinda wish the titan was a little more distinct compared to the interceptors. It just looks like a massive interceptor and nothing more tbh.
Haha, watch me absolutely not do this, even in my Type 10 Defender!! Absolutely not!! Thank you, I'll stick to scanning space weeds. 💀❤️
Damn that’s amazing and thank you for your contribution
1:21 Man, that reminds me of going down the gravel road to my house in the height of farming season.
This will trigger your fear of space 😂😂
I would change somethings about ed combat, if your ship deploys a heat sink, it gives ships a targeting vector, if you haven't changed the ship your flying's heading since deploying it... with the amount of heat that's jettisoned, it seems probable to me that it would be detected.... even with silent running. could weight the chances of a hit, based on the amount of points, in which a heat sink can be deployed, that ship could have, with multiple heat sinks being launched from different points at near the same time, being a very bad idea... allowing triangulation
Very nice and comprehensive investigation
What's all this caustic damage anyway?? And how do you counter it??
It used to be much worse. There's modules now that prevent the vast majority of caustic damage.
Caustic damage is caused by clouds of acid or caustic missiles for example. You can cook the substance off by overheating your ship or you use caustic sink launchers to remove it. Also decontamination limpets can get rid of it, but they are not as effective anymore.
Loved elite on the bbc. Managed to become elite. The game really began when you got docking computers.
I wish i had the time to invest in this game to grind out all the engineering. The grinding made the game unplayable for me after a point because i just dont have that kind of time anymore. Now whenever i log in its like oh i guess ill go to haz rez and collect bounties or maybe try to grind some more for corvette
take guardian module in this blue donut. maybe it guerdian tech?
wow that is scary, i havent been to Goid sectors yet..But great work on this..thanks for description and build link. o7!
That was a nice flight commander!! Amazing 19 minutes! How did you leave it? High wake to another system or just boosted the heck outta there?
Elite is Horror Space Sim, The explosion base become a magnetar anomaly!
I play this game and still don't know what the hell he's doing.
Is this in the legacy version of Horizons?
It's cool that fdev expanded gameplay interactions for thargoid space fart clouds, but would be much better to see performance actually being fixed and maybe increased roster of landable planets in the future.
Stop trying to Run the game on a dual Core 4 giga of RAM
@@Keloot jokes on you, cause I have much better hardware than you listed, yet this game runs like shit on any hardware that is not turbo expensive and is not overkill.
@@bobanfrombangladesh what hardware have you got then? Cuz I call bullshit on what you just wrote lmao. I have 850 dollar laptop and the game runs smooth 90 FPS on it.
@@cmdrHeliaxx brosaid 850$ laptop, thats called a GAMING laptop, i have a i7-3770 OC'd to 4.1ghz, 32 gigs of ram, 1070 thats oc'd (and no, its not 'old' or a 'bottleneck', the game doesnt use over 80% of it. guess what? i still get 40fps when in atmos, or after playing for more than 2/3 hours
@@koyadaone if your performance drops after some time playing I would prob recommend checking your thermals, you're most likely thermal throttling. That has nothing to do with the game optimalisation.
nice one cmdr! i see your GUARDIAN MODULES weren't disabled, how is it possible? thnks!
Guardian Hull Reinforcements are unaffected by the Thargoid field.
O7 Thank CMDR for this video
Gosh i love krait boost sfx
One of the best in the game IMO. So deep and sci-fi-y.
3:11 I think we might need a bigger boat
are we even playing the same game
Motherships are cool and all. But what's the red-light source in the middle part of the cloud. Maybe the moterships are not the main threat in the Malestrom
That's the systems star.
Bestes Video bisher 😎👍👍👍👍
this is a horror game,.
What is the blue thing?
I hate frontier so much for spoiling this beautiful game. Just a huge waste of potential
Great Vid MuQ o7
at 12:18 the icon/logo is clear visible.
I thought Thargoid "ships" were biologically grown? How would a logo be painted on?
@@Karuiko the interceptors have markings like that too. presumably they're branded on or something like a tattoo.
@@Karuiko they are biomechanical
@@Karuiko Why assume they are a logo or icon? And why would a biological creature be incapable of having such patterns? Many creatures exist with spiral patterns and such in and on their bodies.
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Amazingly!!!!!!!!!
I see a lot of ppl flying the krait is it really that nice?
It's a pretty great AX ship. I personally run one for PvE.
It's not that it's an OP, _"I win"_ ship for everything. It's just its combination of module slots, speed, maneuverability, hard points, etc. makes it an ideal candidate (along with the Alliance Chieftain) for this kind of encounter.
What in the blue blazes is that thing?
Thargoid Titan (aka. Mothership)
Game?
Elite:Dangerous
Wow. People still play this game?
Wow, people still bother complaining?
Are you kidding or something? :D
Are you on hotas or mouse?
Mouse as made evident by the cursor (arrow) in the middle of the screen at times.
Is this real or is it a mod???
Real
There are no mods for elite
No mods for elite, welcome to update 15 ;)
BROOOOOOO THAT'S SO SICK WTF I AM HYPED AS HELLL
The game really does just throw you in the deep end to learn and experience things as you go. The game truly has a special place in my heart for it's insane space sim immersion.
People who say it's a grind, well yes, so is life. It's supposed to be realistic. It's literally a game set as how real life would be in the future.
I think the only thing the game is missing is endgame content. Once you have beaten a few Thargoids, engineered a few ships to max capabilites, and got yourself a megaship. There's not much else to do other than explore and repeat.
If they added the ability to build and manage your own bases, had more secret and random events to discover in deep space, or even added more story elements like interactive crew members and getting messages from people you may have saved in a rescue mission etc...
Starfield just come out, and as much as it is good. It doesn't have that same feel and immersion as Elite. If they combined Elite and Starfield right now, you'd literally have a perfect game.
Then I play NMS and realize this goofy game is better than both of those combined.
The glitchy hud is so annoying. They should make it happen only once a minute.
All the star citizen players here criticizing this game. Get back to me when you’re not getting clapped by some dude who spent $1000 on a ship while you have to grind every reset to get a scrap hauler
star citizen players criticizing bout everything but not their damned broke game lmao, just let them have 100 times more bugs than cyberpunk while we explore space in peace
I hate this game with passion, devs are ****
Just because you don't know how to play this game it doesn't mean it's bad though.
@@cmdrandreyuenari4150 I know how to play it, the devs should had done a better job
@@Xof_D-Dawg_Fox Doesn't make sense. If you don't like the game play something else instead of trolling then.
@@cmdrandreyuenari4150 who's trolling? And are you a noob or smth? The game is not complete, did you even play it Commander Andreuuu
@@Xof_D-Dawg_Fox Yes. I'm a noob. And I have never played the game. I don't even know what a game is. You're absolutely right.
Has anyone tried going into the mouth of the ship? Maybe it's a portal?
Maybe it's only safe when you destroy all the yellow things idk
I saw a video of someone trying, you just bonk your ship on it and take damage like it's an asteroid.
Lol looks like the complainers all arrived here :D
What a visual mess. _This_ is what E:D has devolved into? Oy.
Playing this on steam deck works surprisingly well