Retribution Tree is a Burst DPS Tree, and like a Sustained DPS tree, they can do well DPS. They are like Dual Wield Warriors and Ench. Shamans, the only thing that they need is gear, the rest is up to you.
i love seeing that there are other guilds out there that allow off specs. i raid as ret, and we also have a full time boomkin, enhancement shammy, and elemental shammy. keep up the good work! P.S. want to buy SoB
That's so a pre-tbc thinking, atm we have a ret pally raiding with us at bt/cot3 and we are very happy with his dps/raid support. I think you need to see the big picture and not just the little numbers at sw...
Everyone hating on ret needs to look at this guys post. Hes exactly right, its the player, not the spec. Any spec is raidworthy if its played by someone who knows what theyre doing.
All true. However, most endgame ret pallys spec without the str/agi debuff, the extra points can help get blessing of kings, and the debuff doesnt really help dps.
not sure when this was added last time i even looked at the ret tree was like last year so yeah but we now have a threat reduction talent by 30% except under the effects of righteous fury
actually they were made to be able to heal or tank or dps as they wanted thus the meaning hybrid not just limited to tanking and healing thus came the ret tree and i disagree pallys can do vary good damage if not more than other dps like rogues or locks if they are equally geared, just depends on the pally
Check date of the Video, it's a good long before the boss nerf's and 3.0 patch. AND I bet Magtheridon was a good fight back then. Btw, I like the music :)
People normally turn down ret pallys. I like them alot. I believe their dps is great and they are extremely viable in a raid situation. Judges laid down by other pallys can stay up there because of Crusader strike. bosses like gruul&VR where melee needs to be healed, the JoL will benefit them(Assuming pally has t4 2peice). Without a ret pally, the judge will fade due to the lack of CS. Consider how much its healing over a 10 min fight. They benefit a raid situation just as much as another class.
I like this video, shows that retradins can actually do damage, my problem with this is however that i dont see you going to click the orbs, ever, im not questioning that you're able to do dps at all, its just that the other dps classes would miss alot of dps while bandaging/whatever while over clicking those. However i find that a well geared pally should be able to do your damage, personally i wouldnt never spec it cus i love healing as a pally:-) anyways 4/5
If an additional +3% to crit to EVERYONE in the raid from imp JoC and an additional passive +2% damage to everyone in the paladin's party from imp SA, along with the ability to refresh judgements from other paladins (like another paladin that judges wisdom to help the casters) via crusader strike isn't raid viable, you must not know what is.
yeah exactly play the game you want to some one tells you to spec into something you do want to and makes you unhappy well your obvoiusly addicted to the game because your playing it while its makieng you unhappy and not stopping
Ret also brings seals and judgements and also .. other holy / prot paladins can put judgements on it so that RET paladains can REFRESH THEM ! omg i own in dps for ret. =]] i do more than this guy =]
Well, I just pugged Kalecgos - M'uru, and then did KJ with the guild. KJ was never that hard, Just a luck fight based on where orbs spawn. M'uru has always been more hard than KJ. But I guess someone with a simple mind wouldn't understand.
im glad you think that way...my guild is in tk/ssc atm i raid with em and it works good tbh :p if i can persuade the other paladins to judge -_-'' =) Bini-Hakkar 70 ret paladin
Grats on T4, Scrub. 30% reduced life + reduced damage = Hard to raid in 3.0.2 am I right? -Veganox, Mage of Boulderfist -Kiilla, Druid of Boulderfist -Oomlock, Warlock of Boulderfist.
nice to see such a movie that proves that retribution paladins can do high endgame damage. poor quality though, but i watched your items and spec on the armory. you have wasted some talents since you cant block with a two-hand, only parry. 5 points wasted. 5 stars anyway!
I am so sick of People and there oh pallys have no dps... im a lvl 62 ret pally named jakethesnake on nagrand so any problems with this just tell me... Now it is possible for me to take on 2 lvl 70s and win... i took on a hunter in full pvp gear and a priest in mostly tier gear... and in that i hit 2k twice... so dont say we have no power cos i lead dps in some instances and i also hav 20% crit... i can kill a lvl 65 warrior witout even healing so stop saying we suck
im jelous cause i would LOVE YES LOVE to raid ret omfg holy can get a bit boring if ur farming bosses and i have like full epics in ret gear but meh dont think guild leader would alow. i might have to show him how the ret pallys roll and pwn hes ass in a duel to prove the damage they do
Unfortunately, I can't really see what sort of damage you're doing, given that half your screen is covered with your UI and is not showing what you're doing to the mobs. But your guild gets point for letting you and a full specced Boomkin in their raids. Pretty cool song, too.
Lol, its not smart using pvp gear in pve raids dude.. I'm a ret pally, I started kara with blue items, no pvp gear.. I have a 1 piece of T6, most of T5.. and a some of T4
pala's were never meant to be dps class, they're supposed to be multirole characters designed to fill multiple roles in raids such as off tank or off heal, they are a support class, but theyre powerful heals make them powerful in pvp because it takes so long to kill them, they simply wear their opponents down. So yes a ret pala who is geared with tier 6 gear will do nice dps, but in a group of people in tier 6, the dps will not be that great, because they were never designed to be.
Its good to see smart people posting for once.
Retribution Tree is a Burst DPS Tree, and like a Sustained DPS tree, they can do well DPS.
They are like Dual Wield Warriors and Ench. Shamans, the only thing that they need is gear, the rest is up to you.
i couldnt tell what was going on cuz of quality of the video, but loved the song lol
It's because Alliance need a slow wep and moongoose lowers the attackspeed when it proccs
i love seeing that there are other guilds out there that allow off specs. i raid as ret, and we also have a full time boomkin, enhancement shammy, and elemental shammy. keep up the good work! P.S. want to buy SoB
I couldnt have said it better myself.
Great job....but how the hell do you see anything? You got so much stuff on your screen. Btw i like the music
hes using blood the aura of crusader that keeps popping up is a darkmoon card
That's so a pre-tbc thinking, atm we have a ret pally raiding with us at bt/cot3 and we are very happy with his dps/raid support. I think you need to see the big picture and not just the little numbers at sw...
woo hoo! I see a boomkin...keep rockin mr.boomkin
Everyone hating on ret needs to look at this guys post. Hes exactly right, its the player, not the spec. Any spec is raidworthy if its played by someone who knows what theyre doing.
All true. However, most endgame ret pallys spec without the str/agi debuff, the extra points can help get blessing of kings, and the debuff doesnt really help dps.
not sure when this was added last time i even looked at the ret tree was like last year so yeah but we now have a threat reduction talent by 30% except under the effects of righteous fury
I love the music. What is the name plz?
actually they were made to be able to heal or tank or dps as they wanted thus the meaning hybrid not just limited to tanking and healing thus came the ret tree and i disagree pallys can do vary good damage if not more than other dps like rogues or locks if they are equally geared, just depends on the pally
memories
I agree, their burst is amazing, but they can't sustain a steady DPS
Nice vid :)
Check date of the Video, it's a good long before the boss nerf's and 3.0 patch. AND I bet Magtheridon was a good fight back then.
Btw, I like the music :)
People normally turn down ret pallys. I like them alot. I believe their dps is great and they are extremely viable in a raid situation. Judges laid down by other pallys can stay up there because of Crusader strike. bosses like gruul&VR where melee needs to be healed, the JoL will benefit them(Assuming pally has t4 2peice). Without a ret pally, the judge will fade due to the lack of CS. Consider how much its healing over a 10 min fight. They benefit a raid situation just as much as another class.
10/10 stars!
You kick ass in this vid
I forgot something, name of the song please?
Yeah...?
Raiding ret build wastes 5 points regardless. Precision is needed. Either choose imp dev aura or redoubt. I choose redoubt for when I OT.
Nice dmg for in that time..
could you tell me name of the song?
Could anyone post what would be better for a PvE ret paladin Lionheart Executioner or Stormherald and also whatd be good enchant choices.
Whats the song?
Exoricsm only hurts undead ;) There is some spells that hurt both tho.
im a ret pally and cant say more than, THEY ARE BETTER THAN PPL THINK!!
pala = holy
I like this video, shows that retradins can actually do damage, my problem with this is however that i dont see you going to click the orbs, ever, im not questioning that you're able to do dps at all, its just that the other dps classes would miss alot of dps while bandaging/whatever while over clicking those.
However i find that a well geared pally should be able to do your damage, personally i wouldnt never spec it cus i love healing as a pally:-)
anyways 4/5
let people play they want to play, and why does everyone bash the ret pally!? I don't see whats so wrong with spec'ing ret.
If an additional +3% to crit to EVERYONE in the raid from imp JoC and an additional passive +2% damage to everyone in the paladin's party from imp SA, along with the ability to refresh judgements from other paladins (like another paladin that judges wisdom to help the casters) via crusader strike isn't raid viable, you must not know what is.
yeah exactly play the game you want to some one tells you to spec into something you do want to and makes you unhappy well your obvoiusly addicted to the game because your playing it while its makieng you unhappy and not stopping
Rets Palas, can do great DPS if they are well geared and if the player know how 2 play. Stop saying bull$ like "Palas=Holy". Period.
The only reason he's #2 on the DPS charts is because he isnt on cube-clicking duty.
Ret pallies are the worst "dps" class.
Ret also brings seals and judgements and also .. other holy / prot paladins can put judgements on it so that RET paladains can REFRESH THEM ! omg i own in dps for ret. =]] i do more than this guy =]
I wish they'd make ret tier gear a bit better, i dont want 20,000 Intelect. Thats all i can say.
And leave the commenting to people who can spell. :)
dude i realy don't care cuz its still a good video and we already know buff gave u more dmg ok?
No, Rets in raid are mana efficient if they just let there SoC reak havoc. And all those buffs help against bosses so shut it.
lol that date july 27 is my b-day
Wow, Talk about necropost.
jdgiants needs to get some glasses or contacts.
Well, I just pugged Kalecgos - M'uru, and then did KJ with the guild.
KJ was never that hard, Just a luck fight based on where orbs spawn.
M'uru has always been more hard than KJ. But I guess someone with a simple mind wouldn't understand.
Erm... No...?
Illidan + Resist tanks = Down.
im glad you think that way...my guild is in tk/ssc atm i raid with em and it works good tbh :p if i can persuade the other paladins to judge -_-'' =) Bini-Hakkar 70 ret paladin
I have a ally pally i do the same damage without your buff :x
Grats on T4, Scrub.
30% reduced life + reduced damage = Hard to raid in 3.0.2 am I right?
-Veganox, Mage of Boulderfist
-Kiilla, Druid of Boulderfist
-Oomlock, Warlock of Boulderfist.
nice to see such a movie that proves that retribution paladins can do high endgame damage. poor quality though, but i watched your items and spec on the armory. you have wasted some talents since you cant block with a two-hand, only parry. 5 points wasted. 5 stars anyway!
I am so sick of People and there oh pallys have no dps... im a lvl 62 ret pally named jakethesnake on nagrand so any problems with this just tell me... Now it is possible for me to take on 2 lvl 70s and win... i took on a hunter in full pvp gear and a priest in mostly tier gear... and in that i hit 2k twice... so dont say we have no power cos i lead dps in some instances and i also hav 20% crit... i can kill a lvl 65 warrior witout even healing so stop saying we suck
i dunt fucking no lol
ret pallys can only burst dps...like enhance shammys. not raid viable
im jelous cause i would LOVE YES LOVE to raid ret omfg holy can get a bit boring if ur farming bosses and i have like full epics in ret gear but meh dont think guild leader would alow. i might have to show him how the ret pallys roll and pwn hes ass in a duel to prove the damage they do
Unfortunately, I can't really see what sort of damage you're doing, given that half your screen is covered with your UI and is not showing what you're doing to the mobs.
But your guild gets point for letting you and a full specced Boomkin in their raids. Pretty cool song, too.
Lol, its not smart using pvp gear in pve raids dude.. I'm a ret pally, I started kara with blue items, no pvp gear.. I have a 1 piece of T6, most of T5.. and a some of T4
pala's were never meant to be dps class, they're supposed to be multirole characters designed to fill multiple roles in raids such as off tank or off heal, they are a support class, but theyre powerful heals make them powerful in pvp because it takes so long to kill them, they simply wear their opponents down. So yes a ret pala who is geared with tier 6 gear will do nice dps, but in a group of people in tier 6, the dps will not be that great, because they were never designed to be.
whats the name of this song?