Redraft of the 2019 NHL Entry Draft
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I find Zegras a little overrated
@@mannyoliveira776very overrated in my opinion
@@mannyoliveira776Up to this point, Cozens and Boldy are better
I think he just gets a lot of attention in comparison to others with similar numbers. I get what you mean, but the kid has elite 82+ point potential
he’s only relevant cause he does the michigan and that’s it
@@mannyoliveira776 anyone can be a franchise player on shitty Anaheim
I agree with the masses on this one. Seider not being #2 is criminal. Guys like him are era defining players for most teams.
Exactly.
Not sure I understand the love for Seider. Hronek, before he was traded, had 4 less points in 22 less games for the same team and was +8 to Seider's -11. Yet, some of these Wings fans are calling him a top 5 D-man in the NHL. Am I missing something?
Hronek wasn’t carrying Chiarot on his back for 1/2 a season…
Comment of the day.
@@tedsmith7814 Chiarot will end up being a terrible signing. A knee jerk solution.
At least they got Walman for a whole lot cheaper to soften this pain.
I think you’re forgetting how Seider won the Calder with 50 points as a 20/21 year old dman. He’s the clear cut number 2 easily
are you a moritz seider fan? I'm not sure lol. I agree he would be #2 but also, being 20/21 doesn't make it harder to win the Calder
Despite Seider's numbers being lower in his second year, in the final stretch of the season I was really impressed by his consistency. He was out there working insanely hard every night, shutting down everybody and he started to show a little more offensive creativity, I think. I still remember a play in a tight game with Buffalo that I don't think mattered too much in the standings, but Seider had a shift where he just relentlessly pounded on a Buffalo skater until he finally got the puck from him and the crowd noticed how awesome the effort was and started cheering. He's so good at so many things that I feel like he has a legit shot at being the best D-man in the league. Purely because he's already so good, at such a young age.
Seider's offensive numbers were down in the first half because he wasn't deployed on the first unit powerplay. Second half numbers were just fine though...
Time will tell.
I think moving hronek makes room on the right side for him to step into the a more offensive role.
@@calvinchambers839 They didn't play together
@@darkphoenix2 yes but not having to play hronek gets seider more offensive minutes because they both play the right side.
if the draft was done now Seider an easy #2 as no manager is going to pass on a stud physical D with offensive skills. And he's closer to Hughes than Zegras is to him...
@@mannyoliveira776 Seider number 2 and then you can keep the rest as such. Seider is the kind of overall physical talent with offensive skills that just don't come around most years and will be in contention for the Norris trophy. He's by far the second best player drafted this year. Zegras looks good but isn't even a ppg scorer yet.
@@mannyoliveira776 Seider projects to be a perennial Norris candidate. I don't see any of the two players you placed above him being in that same caliber.
@@mannyoliveira776 you picked wrong...
still with this? Seider dropped off last season and zegras only improved. He has more upside.
@@MovieBuffConnorJamieson Ahh yes, 4 more points from 6 more appearances as a top line forward. Massive improvements. Meanwhile Seider and Walman where one of the best defensive pairings in the league by the end of the year. Also lmao "more upside." Seider is a unicorn type of player. Zegras simply isn't. Even if he becomes 1C caliber, Seider is borderline generational for a defensman.
Devils fan here. I would have Seider at 2. Right hand shot defenseman plays in all situations and is hard as a rock. A dominant physical presence that will shine in the playoffs when they get there. Playing Ben Chariot with Seider was a big mistake. Now adding Justin Holl a similar player is not going to help the situation. That blueline needs improvement and trust me it no fault of Seider's.
#2 should’ve been Moritz Seider, tough finding rookie D that can be a top 2 defenseman from the start.
Not having Seider at #2 is crazy, and I say this as a Sens fan
I think he's the clear #2, bare minimum top 3.
Top 3 all day, and remember everyone’s reaction?! Yzerman called his shot on that one
@@abrararifify whats with these fake sens fans!
Mo Seider is good. But no way he breaks top 3 with Hughes, Zegras and Boldy there....maybe in the 4 spot. Will be interesting to see if he keeps up the level of play consistently over the years. I think he is a really good player but I think at the 10 year mark Byram will overtake him as the #1 defenseman in the draft. Byram has had a rough start with injuries but has so much potential.
Harvey-Pinard at 17 is a nice surprise on this redraft! Hope he continues playing well next year.
Gonna score 25-30 goals this year , he will force his way into the top 6
We love Maccelli in AZ! Thanks for showing some love, kid deserves it. He’s only going to get better as the team does.
He's a top notch playmaker. I hope he gets better and gets some recognition.
seider clears zegras. he was held back by chiarot all year, the second he switched to walman he was back to elite
and Zegras was held back production wise by the worst coach in the league playing him with Brock McGinn and Derek Grant, but he still played well. You're acting like Zegras was in an optimal playing environment lmao
I am sorry but for me it is Seider AT LEAST #2. I am a bit shocked.
At most #2. He’s not touching #1
Seider not being at 2 is genuinely the first time I don’t agree w Shannon
Meh he’s got a vendetta against the wings. Always has
@@bencarlson2547he literally has one against the ducks and admitted it...
It's much, much easier to find a Trevor Ziegras than it is to find a Mo Seider. Seider is the obvious #2 pick.
How is it easier to find a Trevor Zergas? He is one of three, maybe four young players that are considered the "new faces of hockey". When the Ducks visit a city people buy a ticket not to see the Ducks but to see what Zergas will do. When Detroit comes to town people don't buy tickets to see what Seider is going to do. Seider had a down year compared to those in front of him in this re-draft as well. Seider is good, very good and might even be elite one day but realistically he hasn't earned a number two spot even if it is just a re-draft.
@@AnaheimRob Lol people don't pay too see Zegras hahaha!
Lol, yes they do. Be bitter, hate and troll all you want and it looks as though that is all you do, but he and a few other young NHL players are budding stars that many want to see regardless of what you think...Not that you think things through. hahaha!
@@AnaheimRob How am I trolling? Haha! Someone is overly sensitive. And please explain how I'm bitter? Little man. If people pay too see Zegras play then please show me attendances for Ducks road games? I guarantee they aren't any higher than normal. And haven't the Ducks home attendances been down too? He isn't an elite player like Matthews, McDavid, Draisaitl etc. Nobody is paying too see him, stop making stuff up because he plays for your team.
Dylan Cozens is still so under rated. Personally I take him over Zegras because he plays a better 200ft game and puts up more goals and points (maybe because Zegras is still on a dumpster fire team) but Cozens also played with 2 rookies the whole year and still killed it.
Two talented rookies though. Love those Sabres.
@@jeffreym.8957 Theyr'e talented but there is no denying both of them hit extreme plateaus and cold streaks during the season. Cozens would of had a lot more points if they didn't disappear for multiple game stretches.
@@SuicidalGaming Absolutely. JJ had a great first 20 games or so and then disappeared for like 40 games before he played better at the end of the year. Jack was much more consistent but he definitely played like a rookie the whole year. Cozens year was really incredible considering he centered two pure rookies who really were green.
I came in to the year hoping Cozens would be a good #3 center in the NHL. He's clearly at least a #2 center in the NHL and you can't even say that's his ceiling for sure. He's still so young with his game being so defensively sound. He's in a good situation where they don't need him to be a #1, but I won't be surprised if you redraft this class in 5 years and he's #2 overall on the board.
@@LateCloser I’ve said since the beginning of last year he could be our 1c in a couple years to your ceiling comment. Obviously with tage playing how he is it’s more of a 1a/1b situation giving us matchup versatility. Cozens will get selke votes sooner than later. He’s lowered his giveaways each year while increasing his takeaways and he’s becoming more and more physical. As soon as he sures up the face off dot which has also improved every year he’s gonna be all around the best center we have. Tage also needs to clean up his face offs.
@@LateCloser also the hockey guy just did a redraft and cozens ended up going 4 to colorodo. Zegras was second but that could easily be flipped if you don’t just look at points and potential to shut down just as much as scoring
Seider at 5 is crazy
Absolutely high if you think 4 teams pass on Mo Seider at this point
The fact that Seider is lower than 2nd is crazy. Imagine passing on creating Fox-Seider duo.
Defense isn't the problem in new York, offense is , zegras brings more of what they need, with a higher ceiling imo
Whenever you do a 2020 redraft, we know Lafrenière ain't #1.
Tim Stutzle is undoubtedly the best player from that draft. Last season showed that he’s a superstar and capable of 100 points.
Yes Stutzle is the clear cut by FAR the #1 of that draft
As a ranger fan I agree 200%
@@GizmoBeach Lafreniere was picked higher than Byfield. Higher pick = higher expectations. If Byfield was picked higher more people would be talking about how he’s been underwhelming at times.
@@ryandymond2195true stuzle may have been selected higher if scouts were allowed to be in Germany to watch him more then they could of at the time who knows maybe he would of went higher or lower🤷♂️
Not bad for MTL, 4 players in the first 17 !!
and the 17th is a guy from the 7th round! Insane!
Seider not number 2 is interesting
These redraft are really fun to watch
Unless your a Sharks fan, we liked to trade away our first rounders.
Agreed. This one is too early though, I think...
@@jeffreym.8957 Whitout a doubt, expect for Jack Hughes imo.
Outside pure points Seider was excellent in his second year. The points thing is honestly the fault of the team and not only him. Seider is easily number 2 in this draft. Zegras should be at most 7 in this draft.
Zegras's points stay steady on the worst team in the NHL right now where Seider has a roughly a 20% reduction in point production, and he is supposed to move up while Zegras moves down multiple spots?... Ok with that.
Wings fan. Can’t wait for Soderblom to develop more. He has been on a great track. Hoping he gets some more games this year.
I think youre sleeping on Seider a bit Shannon other than that great list!
Seider is definitely 2nd. Can’t wait to see this redraft in 5 years.
Oh dude call me bias but seider at #2 all day. If you don’t watch red wings games then you don’t know. Jack #1 though for sure! Kid is an absolute stud.
Zegras is 5 imo, Seider has to be 2nd and I would put Caufield and Cozens above Zegras. Boldy isn't top 5, straight up, he is WAY to reliant on the PP.
Boldy has 36 of 102 points on the PP in 128 games. He basically plays with nobodies as linemates. Cozens 119 points in 201 games. Caufield 84 points in 123 games. Zegras 139 points in 180 games.
@@jefflarson1652such amazing job to copy and paste their points! Good job!
@@fczip5493 Yeah, it took hours to find those exact words so I could copy and paste them here. You're a genius.
This is a crazy take
Habs having 4 of these players says something about Kent Hughes
To be fair to Bergevin, he drafted two of the four.
I'm a ducks fan and think Seider should be at number 2
45ish people in the comments think Seider should be #2. Me too.
I get that you can't really put Caufield in the top 5 because he hasn't been able to play a regular 82 game season yet, but I think if you redo this draft let's say 3 years from now, I would be shocked if he isn't at the very least top 3. That guy scores goals in his sleep.
I agree, i think he will be 3. Best player out of this draft tbh
If he can stay healthy, yeah this guy is gonna put 50 goal a year
For me, Mo has to be 3, or even 2. One of the Best off puck defensemen in the League already. It makes up for his slight fall in stats I believe.
4:07 I think Seider would have gone top 3, and Goal Caulfield would be nice compensation but I’d rather have Mo
I’m genuinely surprised Seider only moved up one spot.
Turned out to be a very deep draft especially in the first round.
@@AnaheimRob that’s fair point!
why is parssinen so low? he was over a half point a game this season. putting him below ahl players is certainly interesting.
Zegras over seider and cozens is interesting but hey it's part of the fun
Was rooting for the Canucks to take zegras at 10. Then the ducks took him.
It was between Podkolzin, boldy and caufield for me.
Was rooting for boldy but understood us taking podkolzin as he was rated top 3 at points and he fell
Fingers crossed that Caufield and Dach can play a full 82 games this coming season. The past two seasons for the Habs have been annoying with the amount of injuries
As a Dallas fan I am very excited for the future of Thomas Harley. I predict 35-40 points this year. 2nd in scoring for defensemen behind Hieskanen.
WTF? Seider's at least #2, pushing for #1.
Makes sense seeing Hughes as #1 but seeing Seider and Caufield at #5/#6 feels wrong.
Sneaking caufield in there, I see you but caufield like he said has on pace numbers that would put him higher but hasn't played the games yet boldy cozens and Zegras have all put up good numbers over full seasons, it could change as quickly as next year but its about proven production
@@Toxic_Alchemist you’re right. Thanks for clarifying!!
Glad to see some York appreciation. People have a habit of shitting on him just because the Flyers took him over Caufield, when at the end of the day he's the exact guy the Flyers needed
I love these redrafts! I am not sure I see Byram's numbers getting much better this year. He is at best in the number two pair behind Makar and Toews and that is not going to change unless one of them gets hurt. I know you think Makar is the best defenseman in the league (along with just about everyone else), but if he's better than Toews, it's by a hair's width as far as I am concerned. I think if Byram was on a different team, he would shine a whole lot more.
Some would say that Jack Hughes was put in the NHL to early, but with his 2 first seasons pro being relativly bad, I'd say that Seider goes first in my redraft. Swedish defensemen of the year draft +2 and NHL rookie of the year draft +3 and top-2 defensemen in the NHL from the start is what you want on every NHL-team.
A skillful lightweight 1C is nice, and Hughes is really good, but for Stanley Cup runs I'd think teams rather have Victor Hedman over Elias Pettersson.
So, you're taking a guy who didn't play at all the first two years and penalizing the guy that did? Hughes is scoring at a 1.22 PPG clip the past two seasons...and like Seider, he's only 22.
@@jefflarson1652 EP40 had 1,35 PPG last season. Would you still have that over Hedman in a playoff race?
I'd not to be honest, but then again I experienced the importance of a great D-man in Detorit before, so that may explain my pov.
Let's agree to disagree then I guess?
@@user-wo7ri1xu5y Hughes has played 244 games in the NHL to Seider's 164. Hughes has led his team to the playoffs. Seider hasn't and Detroit was better than NJ for the two years prior to this past season. 15 years from now, it may look different between the two, but at this point Hughes is so far ahead of Seider that it isn't funny. Only delusional Red Wing fans think it's close.
The next 2019 draft player to join the Canadiens is Kaapo Kakko, THG decided !
Funny how half our two top lines are here, Dach, RHP, Caufield and Newhook.
One year later, the Zegras at 2 take aged pretty bad.
Jack Hughes, Seider, Cozens, Caufield. If Conroy trades Dustin Wolf straight up for anyone else on that board he will get roasted. Not the best redraft we've seen on THG.
Love the redrafts!
Seider is way too low
Hughes will be a bust, they said. Kakko played against men, they said. 🙃
RHP going from a 7th round 15th pick, to a 1st round 17th pick is insane !! I do think MTL has a bright future.
Sorry, but Seider should be number 2. Otherwise good draft selections.
Arseni Gritsyuk when he comes over with his speed in that lineup could make it in too 32 if not 32 at least top 50..if he can handle the transition
Hey hockeyguy, usally you're pretty on point for this kind of thing but picking Zegras before Seider is insane, sorry, you could have even made a case for Boldy but Zegras is a purely offensive player and thats what hes gonna be, im not convinced he can be anything more and his offensive level isnt necessarily one of those overwhelming types so nah...and im a Habs fan so u know i have some thoughts about CC, but at best i'd put him 3rd
The Rangers absolutely have a development issue, especially when it comes to their forwards. We are talking about a team that has drafted just ONE forward in the last 30 years who has gone on to score 70 points for them in a single season. Embarrassing to say the least. This team has been bad at developing forwards for nearly 30 years now. Here’s an idea, how about letting Kakko and Lafreniere have some significant power play time for once and see what they can do, instead of putting them out there with under 30 seconds left on the PP as the puck is being dumped into your zone.
The only place Seider should be picked is 2nd or 1st.
Kakko played against men
Zegras at number 2 ? Behind Seider Cozens Caufield Boldy ? No....Zegras is 7 for me.
Lmfao you can't be serious
It's December and Zegras has 2 points. Great call.
Sabres die hard here. Was at millsies jersey retirement ceremony last season. I vividly recall seeing Cozens fork his game used hockey stick to Miller's son. Miller was interviewed about that gesture and added with conviction Cozens' is his new favorite Sabre haha. Useless fun fact! ⚔️
There are no useless Sabres facts... French Connection Forever...
Image Zegras, Hughes best friend on his rivalry like that lol
Seider #2 man
Well when you start your TH-cam redraft... you can put him wherever you want
@@rockybalboa1847omg you’re so right i should totally get on that asap. fantastic suggest. i’m gonna go out today and get a great camera to get on it!
so if a player is a goalie, defenseman, or a big forward, they may take longer to develop.
so its only the Marners of the world who come in ready to rock??
NJD vs Everybody
he manifested Bowen Byram to the Sabres!
My top 10
Hughes
Seider
Cozens
Zegras
Boldy
Caufield
Byram
Macelli
Dach
Kakko
Hughes, Seider, Cozens, Boldy, Caufield, Zegras
Remember when people (including me) were calling Jughes a bust? Dude will be a consistent 90-110 point scorer
People overreact to everything these days. Tage Thompson didn't hit double digit goals in a season until he turned 24. Who was his biggest doubter? Me. I kept wanting to give Alex Nylander more time. Well... he's 24 this year!
Seider goes 2nd overall... it's not even close.
wolf should be sooooooo much higher
Hughes is the only player I would prefer over Seider.
Ngl, Zegras, Boldy, and Cozens are dime a dozen every other draft. Seider IMO is clear #2 if not #1 if Hugh's didn't have the year he had last. Having a physically gifted puck carrier who is both elite in offense and defense doesn't come along often. There isn't a defenseman his age or younger that has the ceiling he has. Luke Hugh's is the closest, but we will see how he does this year. Seider at 5 is criminal IMO.
Couple of things - as a Sabres fan I take issue with your outright dismissal of Cozens as “dime a dozen”: in his first three years in the league he went 13 to 38 to 68 points, and he just turned 22 in February. He is also one of Buffalo’s best PKers and is a has great advanced stats. He is also tough as nails. Lastly, I see your Sieder and raise you a Power.
@@Jabberwok28lmao
@@Jabberwok28 I'd still take Hughs and even Edvinnson over Power at this point. I think Power will be a good top pairing D man with some star power and a very high floor. But those other 3 players I think just have a much higher ceiling if everything projects out the way it does.
Boldy and Cousins ahead of Seider ? I can see an argument for Zegras but Boldy or Cousins. Wow
Jack Hughes: Still #1. There actually was debate about whether he'd go before Kaapo Kakko but Hughes has left him in the dust.
(4) Habs in the top 17! Don’t tell me Hockey Guy becoming a Habs fan.
For people wondering why their team didn't have a pick, these are the trades in the first round for 2019 (info from wikipedia):
The Ottawa Senators' first-round pick (4th) went to the Colorado Avalanche as the result of the Matt Duchene for Kyle Turris, Shane Bowers, Andrew Hammond, a third-round pick in 2019 and this pick or the 2018 top 10 protected first.
The Philadelphia Flyers traded back from 11th to 14th and 45th with the Arizona Coyotes.
The Columbus Blue Jackets' first-round pick (19th) went to the Ottawa Senators as the result of the other Matt Duchene trade where him and Julius Bergman were sent to Columbus in exchange for Vitalii Abramov, Jonathan Davidsson, and this pick (top 3 protected)
The Winnipeg Jets' first-round pick (20th) was re-acquired in the Jacob Trouba trade for Neal Pionk and this pick. It had previously been sent to the Rangers in the Kevin Hayes trade for Brendan Lemieux, a conditional 2022 4th, and this top 3 protected 2019 first.
The Toronto Maple Leafs' first-round pick (22nd) went to the Los Angeles Kings as the result of a trade on January 28, 2019 that sent Jake Muzzin to Toronto in exchange for Carl Grundstrom, Sean Durzi and this pick.
The San Jose Sharks' first-round pick (29th) went to the Anaheim Ducks as the result of a trade on February 24, 2019 that sent Brandon Montour to Buffalo in exchange for Brendan Guhle and this pick (being conditional at the time of the trade). The condition - Anaheim will receive a first-round pick in 2019 if the Blues' first-round pick is between picks 20-31 then Anaheim will have the option to take either St. Louis or San Jose's first-round pick in 2019.
Buffalo previously acquired the 29th pick as the result of a trade on February 26, 2018 that sent Evander Kane to San Jose in exchange for Danny O'Regan, a conditional fourth-round pick in 2019 and this pick (being conditional at the time of the trade). The condition - Buffalo will receive a first-round pick in 2019 if Kane re-signs with the Sharks for the 2018-19 NHL season and if the Sharks qualify for the 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs.
The St. Louis Blues' first-round pick (31st) went to the Buffalo Sabres as the result of a trade on July 1, 2018 that sent Ryan O'Reilly to St. Louis in exchange for Vladimir Sobotka, Patrik Berglund, Tage Thompson, a second-round pick in 2021 and this pick (being conditional at the time of the trade). The condition - Buffalo will receive a first-round pick in 2019 if the Blues first-round pick is outside of the top ten selections in the 2019 NHL Entry Draft - was converted when the Blues qualified for the 2019 Stanley Cup playoffs on March 29, 2019.
As a coyotes fan, can’t wait to see how far Söderström falls! 😅
hopefully this year he can become a full time nhler
@@ragingMISQUITOGAMINGGANGSTERunfortunately that won’t happen, with the additions of Durzi and Dumba
He’s still young, defensemen notoriously take longer to develop.
would've loved to see Spence on this board, I think he has a ton of potential and can be a future top 4 D
Avs fan here. I am still pretty content with Byram at 4th. I think Shannon is right in saying that assuming he stays healthy, he has all the goods to grow into a bona fide superstar in this league. Newhook at 13 is interesting because it implies the Avs perhaps gave up to early on him. In Colorado, opinion seems divided. To many he looks like Jost 2.0, to others the potential is still there. But perhaps Montreal will be a better place for him.
Kakko at 15 is worth having a conversation about. It always makes you scratch your head when a can't miss player turns out to struggle as much as he has. I think a fair amount of it comes down to how the Rangers mishandling their draft talent IMO.
We really are collecting the 2019 first rounders like their pokemon huh, CC, Dach, Newhook and RHP (he was 7th round but you know what i mean)
Arturs Silovs has a real good chance of making this list in a few years. It's a good draft year for Vancouver.
I’m taking Cozens over Zegras every day of the month
Both gonna be elite players but just have different strengths. Both transition beasts too
Seider was who I really wanted us to draft...and you had Krebs one spot too low... Those were my 1&2 for the Kings list???
Im surprised Kochetkov was so low. He won the Calder Cup with the Chicago Wolves and played well for Carolina. I would’ve had him slightly higher, maybe going to the Penguins or Kings. Maybe 5 years down the road things will be different. Like you said, things with goalies can change quickly.
I'm surprised Carolina re-signed both Andersen and Raanta. When you have Kochetkov ready too go. I get you need tender depth but yeah, he's ready for a back up role/regular starter.
On Ville Heinola, It's already been reported that he's asked for a trade
Time for a new vid Shannon;) I don't get your take on Seider and so do many others.
funny how 3 of the top 12 are now together in Montreal...Colefield at 6, Dach at 9 and Newhook at 12.. wierd how things work out as obviously Hughes knows his players
I can't get on the Zegras second overall train... he doesn't play enough defense or even scoring for that matter. Yes the ducks suck but still. You got Seider and Caufield. Idkkkk
Seider should definitely be higher. Solid dmen are much harder to find...
Ok, so don't crucify me here, but id have Seider at number one.
Seider plays every part of his position amazingly, and defenceman usually take far longer to develop. Hes a stud
#2 Seider
#3 Caufield
Come on Shannon, you never miss like this
Caufield is not better than Zegras
A bit too soon in 3 years this could be interesting but still going to watch the video
No matter the coming years. Jack will always be the number one pick from this class
I love how montreal got 4 players in the top 17, i think they love the 2019 players
What a redraft to see Hockey Guy eh. Good redraft
Go Devils
Poor Alex Turcotte at #5. Guy has had 3 concussions since being drafted.
Seider isn’t #2?
Its hilarious Byram is on the Sabers now, way to pick em Shannon
The Habs have 4 players in the top 17. But Harvey-Pinard being a double overager, he would be part of a 2017 redraft.