It's the beginning of a new era. As battery tech advance, requiring a "backup" won't even be necessary eventually. If Dems don't torch everything before we get there anyway...
You are completely missing the point, itsnot supposed to fully charge the vehicle, it's supposed to add a few miles/kilómetros to it to get you to the nearest charger if you accidentally run out out of juice, if you plan your journey properly that should never happen anyway.
for each battery, you should also mention how long it takes for charging to lets say extra miles and it is good for the viewers to know the price of each such pack. without these two extra info, it is hard for me to decide which one is better and cost efficient.
I’m looking into a portable solar setup for when I purchase a Tesla Cybertruck. If I pack 12 portable Anker 400-Watt solar panels, theoretically assuming 7-12 peak sunlight hours here in SoCal, I could generate 120-160 miles of range per day while setup at a base camp. Problem is, I need some type of portable AC to DC converter, that can transfer 60-120 kW at a time. If I found one of these, I could pack 4 Anker SOLIX F2000’s, have 3 of the 12 total solar panels connect to one of the F2000’s, then use like an adapter or something to connect all 4 to that DC converter, which would plug into the truck.
Currently not a viable option due the current efficiency of solar panels, it would take days to put any reasonably usful amount of energy into the vehicle, it's just practical at the moment.
These units can add a small amount of extra range to your EV. So they should be considered useful only in certain circumstances. Typically this might be when your EV didn’t quite make to a recharging station. There are portable power stations that can add more EV range than the units described in this video. However the cost increases rapidly making them prohibitively expensive as an emergency range extender for your boot. Not to mention there weight. If these portable power stations were half the price with twice the watt hour capacity then their application as an emergency range extender for your EV becomes more appealing. So a range extension of approximately 20 to 30 miles ( 32 to 48 kilometres ) is possible. It all depends on what scenario EV owners want to avoid as to wether a suitably configured portable power station will do the job or not.
So, having a plug in hybrid with little range, I assume I could charge this portable battery at home all day with panels, then when I get home use that small amount of power to recharge my phev a few miles worth? Would that work and is it cost effective?
Good question, but if you're using a plugin hybrid, then why bother with these? You always can carry gasoline. These portable charging stations are for EVs that need some extra miles during emergencies.
Since the video is supposed to be about "EV charging", I was expected portable DC to DC. But no, just inefficient DC to AC to DC charging. So just one more video about portable batteries...
@@DailyAutomotiveactually it’s not true. ICE vehicles are not as reliable and do not keep burning carbon during their lifetimes. The technology has been reliably on market since 2013 and battery performance is improving as the market demands become greater. Plus bottom line is ICE engines are only 30% efficient as electric motors are 95% efficient. The facts justify the technology. Electric cars a better.
Hybrid is the answer. The government's work on this will be great if it helps with low tax rates to push the development of hybrid, plug-in cars, creating gas engines specifically developed to work with electric motors. It will increase a lot of fuel efficiency and will let us enjoy the best of each side.
@@792bnz yes I do and do not miss any of the ICE requirements by law to operate my vehicle. Meaning the smog and the constant oil changes, breaks, transmission fluid changes, differential oil changes, and coolant flushes. My only operating expenses are registration, charging, tires, wipers. So this is a fraction of money spent compared to an ICE vehicle and I’ve had many in my time. Bottom line the facts support the decision to never go back to dirty pollution fuel. It’s time to evolve.
@DailyAutomotive What about having a power station plugged into the 12v and have it charged while the car is plugged into a lvl2 charger? Any issues there?
Without an output transformer to provide galvanic isolation between that portable, high frequency, transformerless inverter's DC rail and its AC output, during a failure of this inverter's control circuitry, you are at high risk of passing high amperage DC current through to your Leaf's onboard charger. This can not only damage it, but will also void your Leaf's warranty. You may be able to charge your EV now, but one day, you're inverter will fail as they all do, and you will probably smoke your EV's charger. A much better way to charge your EV off grid, is to use a low frequency, transformer based inverter.
These could work well if they can get the price down & increase the drive-time from charges, especially if they make them tamper-proof as best as you can with tradional lock & key, you could leave them in your car then whilst it charges. They might have to work with manufacturers designs to sort that but, it can't be that difficult. If they make electric pumps cash-in-hand at an appropriate price also and bring all the prices down on those cars, electric cars would soon get very popular. = Bye bye smelly petrol vehicles.
You should never charge an EV with a high frequency, transformerless portable solar generator because they lack an output transformer to provide galvanic isolation between the solar generator's DC boost stage and its AC output. Using a high frequenc, transformerless solar generator to charge your EV can set your EV's onboard charger on fire and void your EV's warranty.
I love solar i even built my own battery bank. And ground mount solar array. And i have a few power stations. But i have to say, these stations are really worthless when it comes to changing. You're ev you'll only get arround 5 miles. And you're power station dies. 😂
ADDING 5 to 11 miles on these portable power banks cannot be considered a portable EV charging solution.
It's the beginning of a new era. As battery tech advance, requiring a "backup" won't even be necessary eventually. If Dems don't torch everything before we get there anyway...
What can 6 miles do in a Tesla lol. Step on the gas pedal twice and your lil 6 mins done lol
Some people could consider one of these if they were to buy a PHEV and daily charge the portable battery from an apartment building.
You are completely missing the point, itsnot supposed to fully charge the vehicle, it's supposed to add a few miles/kilómetros to it to get you to the nearest charger if you accidentally run out out of juice, if you plan your journey properly that should never happen anyway.
for each battery, you should also mention how long it takes for charging to lets say extra miles and it is good for the viewers to know the price of each such pack. without these two extra info, it is hard for me to decide which one is better and cost efficient.
Thanks for the recommendation
How much range do you lose by carrying the extra weight of the battery pack?
That's neglegible.
@@DailyAutomotive true, my wife weight much more and i drive her around all the time
I’m looking into a portable solar setup for when I purchase a Tesla Cybertruck.
If I pack 12 portable Anker 400-Watt solar panels, theoretically assuming 7-12 peak sunlight hours here in SoCal, I could generate 120-160 miles of range per day while setup at a base camp.
Problem is, I need some type of portable AC to DC converter, that can transfer 60-120 kW at a time.
If I found one of these, I could pack 4 Anker SOLIX F2000’s, have 3 of the 12 total solar panels connect to one of the F2000’s, then use like an adapter or something to connect all 4 to that DC converter, which would plug into the truck.
Thanks for sharing these insights.
Currently not a viable option due the current efficiency of solar panels, it would take days to put any reasonably usful amount of energy into the vehicle, it's just practical at the moment.
These units can add a small amount of extra range to your EV. So they should be considered useful only in certain circumstances. Typically this might be when your EV didn’t quite make to a recharging station. There are portable power stations that can add more EV range than the units described in this video. However the cost increases rapidly making them prohibitively expensive as an emergency range extender for your boot. Not to mention there weight. If these portable power stations were half the price with twice the watt hour capacity then their application as an emergency range extender for your EV becomes more appealing. So a range extension of approximately 20 to 30 miles ( 32 to 48 kilometres ) is possible. It all depends on what scenario EV owners want to avoid as to wether a suitably configured portable power station will do the job or not.
You have a point. Thanks for sharing.
@@DailyAutomotive Keep the good videos coming. Bye…
can you name portable stations that can push our 240 volts to rapid charge?
can i use this portable charger to charge hyndai kona or its just for telsa?
If you're not concerned about damaging your Kona, then I suppose you could.
You can!
Why wouldg It damage the Kona?@@Madsci-zy8wm
Can the dabbson dbs2300 charge EV’s ? the 2300 plus 3000 extra battery looks the best deal around but not sure it can charge EVs?
It can
Thanks for the video. I really wondered: is charging a car with a power station technically feasible? But now I know.
You just have to use a power station that supports this feature. Because there are some technical terms.
So, having a plug in hybrid with little range, I assume I could charge this portable battery at home all day with panels, then when I get home use that small amount of power to recharge my phev a few miles worth? Would that work and is it cost effective?
Good question, but if you're using a plugin hybrid, then why bother with these? You always can carry gasoline. These portable charging stations are for EVs that need some extra miles during emergencies.
I am particularly looking for a solution as you stated. where I just charge it when I am off to work and then charge my car when I get back.
On top of how much power it can gets. I am interested to know how long does it take to charge the car with these devices
You won't get that astrounding energy from these portable charging stations, but they'll give those extra miles you'll need during emergencies.
price
@@DailyAutomotive
i found an Anker solix f2000 with 2kwh piggy back battery can get you 20+ish miles on Amazon for less than $2K
Since the video is supposed to be about "EV charging", I was expected portable DC to DC. But no, just inefficient DC to AC to DC charging. So just one more video about portable batteries...
Sorry if you got disappointed.
Bluetti is mentioned twice, when the second time it should have been TICOVIS
thanks for pointing out. we stand corrected.
Great info. Thanks. An emergency push.
Glad it was helpful!
@@DailyAutomotiveit was very helpful! Thank you for this such a great ful video
Yeah
Right!
How much ?
Check the links in the description.
These will become obsolete as soon as we get bidirectional charging for V2V, manufacturers just need to pull their fingers out & make it happen .
Maybe! But for the time being, these are the options to consider.
1:36 "1800 watt fast charging" - LOL that's the opposite of what 1800 Watts is, that's about the slowest possible charging.
You have a point.
I have a Chevrolet bolt EV and the longer I learned about electric vehicles the more I realize Gas makes more sense
thats true.
@@DailyAutomotiveactually it’s not true. ICE vehicles are not as reliable and do not keep burning carbon during their lifetimes. The technology has been reliably on market since 2013 and battery performance is improving as the market demands become greater. Plus bottom line is ICE engines are only 30% efficient as electric motors are 95% efficient. The facts justify the technology. Electric cars a better.
Hybrid is the answer. The government's work on this will be great if it helps with low tax rates to push the development of hybrid, plug-in cars, creating gas engines specifically developed to work with electric motors. It will increase a lot of fuel efficiency and will let us enjoy the best of each side.
@@alolkai do you own a ev?
@@792bnz yes I do and do not miss any of the ICE requirements by law to operate my vehicle. Meaning the smog and the constant oil changes, breaks, transmission fluid changes, differential oil changes, and coolant flushes. My only operating expenses are registration, charging, tires, wipers. So this is a fraction of money spent compared to an ICE vehicle and I’ve had many in my time. Bottom line the facts support the decision to never go back to dirty pollution fuel. It’s time to evolve.
This is Betamax when VCR is already almost in production.
Thanks for your comment.
Can I charge this thing inside my hybrid car with an inverter while I drive around? Hahahaha constant system
you can, but you shouldn't as it will be very risky. And some EV car don't allow it.
@DailyAutomotive
What about having a power station plugged into the 12v and have it charged while the car is plugged into a lvl2 charger? Any issues there?
Without an output transformer to provide galvanic isolation between that portable, high frequency, transformerless inverter's DC rail and its AC output, during a failure of this inverter's control circuitry, you are at high risk of passing high amperage DC current through to your Leaf's onboard charger. This can not only damage it, but will also void your Leaf's warranty. You may be able to charge your EV now, but one day, you're inverter will fail as they all do, and you will probably smoke your EV's charger. A much better way to charge your EV off grid, is to use a low frequency, transformer based inverter.
Is that so?
These could work well if they can get the price down & increase the drive-time from charges, especially if they make them tamper-proof as best as you can with tradional lock & key, you could leave them in your car then whilst it charges. They might have to work with manufacturers designs to sort that but, it can't be that difficult.
If they make electric pumps cash-in-hand at an appropriate price also and bring all the prices down on those cars, electric cars would soon get very popular. = Bye bye smelly petrol vehicles.
You are the best
You too!
You should never charge an EV with a high frequency, transformerless portable solar generator because they lack an output transformer to provide galvanic isolation between the solar generator's DC boost stage and its AC output. Using a high frequenc, transformerless solar generator to charge your EV can set your EV's onboard charger on fire and void your EV's warranty.
We see your point, but those solar generators are built suitably.
I love solar i even built my own battery bank. And ground mount solar array. And i have a few power stations. But i have to say, these stations are really worthless when it comes to changing. You're ev you'll only get arround 5 miles. And you're power station dies. 😂
Thanks for your comment.
I clicked on the thumbnail that shows an DC DC charger, it doesn't appear in the video.
Clickbait, channel blocked.
Hope you're alright.
These wont charge nothing
Thanks for your opinion.
*Anything.