Im a flat lander just Over the border in Hamburg New York and we come up to ride you’re trail systems several times a year and when we come back to our trails system nothing is ever good enough! Lol so I can relate.
With the work those sleds have to do in four feet of snow all day long it's amazing they don't die more often. Cool how you all can get 400 pounds of dead sled out of the woods.
Crappy deal on the sled blowing up. I stoped riding Polaris due to that. 2008 ,2012. Did the same for me. I guess nothing has changed with their motors. I currently run a 2015 m8000 and love it. Looking for a new sled next season. Will look hard at cat and ski-doo.
I run a m8000 as well. It takes a beating and keeps rippin. Guys with rmks are always fixing something. Or getting new engines under warranty. Warranty’s great and all but when your stranded and can’t ride due to a manufacturer issue I’d be pissed.
Great videos. Sorry to tell everyone, all sleds have issues if you ride enough. It's only a matter of time. It's not if, it's when and then getting it back to the trailer becomes part of the adventure. I'm in my 50's and have been involved in this misfortune with every brand. I personally don't bash any brand. The simple fact that nobody was hurt, nobody got pissed off and everyone got out- thumbs up. I do however feel for the guy, ya hate to see it happen but if you're gonna play, your gonna pay. IMO you put out some of the most realistic, normal videos. It's great to have a awesome group of people to ride with. My hats off to you guys for not getting big headed.
The best comments on a blown/broken sled vid give actual information about what things break, why, how to fix, warranty, how widespread the issue is, things to watch out for, etc. It’s really hard for riders to get real info on sled issues, so we have to help each other out. Please stay away if all you’ve got is some stupid generalization like ‘This brand sucks’.
Duuude, Polaris is 100% the way to go, this is my favorite channel but that being said its one of the only top channels that isn't riding a Polaris, its just awesome because of Matt. there is a reason 9 out of the 10 top mountain riders ride Polaris.
I’ve had phenomenal luck with Polaris. I have a 2000 rmk 700 with a 155 track and skid under it still goes hard to this day, had a 13 pro rmk 600 thing was bulletproof was the first year of the quick drive so the belt was garbage never had a problem with the updated belt, and now ride a 18 axys 800 it’s got 1300 km on it and just finally wore out it’s main belt never skips a beat she eats 8250 rpm from trail ride in to trail ride out
Great Vid 👍👍. What a commercial a Doo towing the Polaris. That sucks for your buddy though. Good luck with tracking down an engine. It takes so long to get parts with Covid. 7 weeks for a set of carb boots for my 800.
We got 10 inches in the western Maine foothills! We we dancing around our houses waiting for daylight! Then we got a light mist in the middle of the night THAT TURNED IT ALL TO A SEA OF CONCRETE!!! What a kick in the nuts man! Least someone is jammin 🤙
We have towed sleds out quite a bit. What worked really well was back the tow sled up bumper to bumper with the dead sled and lash them together tight. If you can use something to go between to protect the bumpers like a leather glove etc. Then hook a second sled up to the front of the tow sled using a Sno bunjee, it makes it so smooth to tow because it can stretch and contract with every little bump and Helps keep the line taut. Using that method we towed up fairly big hills in deep snow. Motts Machining in Edmonton just Did my buddies engine for his 2015 pro. Cost was $2500 with a exchange cylinder and Crank. He pulled the engine and took it to them. About a week turnaround ish.
That sucks...I know the feeling. Had 3 Poo sleds all grenade or lose a top end all before 1500 miles. Great sleds when they run but the unreliable engines made me switch to Doo in '17...never looked back!
Washington cascades get a deecent amount but its like riding concrete sometimes. North Cascades usually get more than any where else in the lower 48. Mt baker is siiting at about 12ft of pure concrete right now but ill take that instead of now snow any day. Im sure you guys get more up north though. Hope to get up there soon
You're right, snow conditions could be way worse for you guys, as we have right now up in Northern Norway. Only 4 inches of hard crust! Either way, the only certain thing we get alot of every winter is police in choppers, chasing us like we're Bin Laden on snowmobiles. Good job on all of your videos! Awesome!
Nice work getting that Poo outta there. Always better if you can handle it yourselves. So...thoughts on the new clutch kit? The pull for phone service looked like it was holding steady at 8100rpm.
Yeah it’s like riding in Quebec and then coming back to Ontario and expecting the same experience.... it spoils you. But I’m drooling watching these vids man. Keep it up!
@@MuskokaFreerider thats awesome man!! My son noticed it was you. I like how they said in the commercial "we just took some average everyday riders"..lol..you're not an average everyday rider.
Nice country out there.. here in Ontario the snow is minimal... I used to live in Nelson and Cranbrook you can't beat British Columbia for riding man.. I've uploaded a few videos from here..check them out...
@@hirosima19843 years warranty for a machine that costs 15,000 dollars isn't that long.... Especially if your motor blows after only a few years of ownership.
It tows better and is safer for your tunnel if you take the ski and strap it up tight to side of your bumper where it's stronger and that sled will stay right with you no problem
Just curious, can you not tow it by strapping a ski up tight to your bumper? That's how we do it flatland. Is it because it's deep snow that you do it that way.
Once that Polaris is back up and running make sure to turn up the oil flow. They come from factory too lean as it is. With my Buddies turbo its turned up to maximum output. (15 Pro)
No. The 850's have electric pumps. They're not like the pros that may have been anywhere between 60:1 and 90:1. The correct thing to do is set it for 50:1, or you'll be fouling plugs like crazy. More than likely they had the center crank bearing failure.
We have found its easier to tie the front and rear bumper with a tie down. No slack. Just have someone sit on the back when tieing it off . Tows a ton easier.
Me, my dad and his friend have been on a trip today and I have a polaris iq (144) and my dad a summit (175) and I got stuck the whole time and then I tried my dads and it was like riding on clouds
Poor Polaris guy, it brought me right back to the days I wrenched for Polaris and the liberty 800’s were blowing up left and right. Btw down here a double double is a burger lol. 🤙
Look like it's a 2019. If it's under warranty have him make suer they put the updated 2020 motor in it. If it's not warranty. Have him get a Long Rod Indy Dan motor. I believe he has them in Stock and he does all of the fixes for the 19' 850 issues.
Was that just paracord that to tied to the front sled to tow you? Did it break ever? Looks like it worked good because it had some flex compared to rope or mule tape. Keep up the vids. no snow here and need to pass the time.
You guys ever carry mule tape it's so small and lightweight with a 1250 pound rating on the small stuff and a 2500 pound on the bigger but still small stuff.
@@bolester68 I carry mule tape but it won't stretch. Might pull a bumper off if I get to much slack in it. I also carry paracord but didn't think it would work to pull like that.
I’m currently riding Axys RMK & you couldn’t pay me to own a 19 850. Such a POS engine. My 800 goes everywhere the 850’s will & starts cold without flooding itself like some Polaris 850’s still do.
Tuning needs to be bang on.. on a turbo 2 stroke. No oil in the case for back up.. just my own opinion. And I'm only a plumber. If your lean a hair. Boom goes the dynamite
The oil is injected straight into the bottom end bearings where it's needed. Some of the turbo kits do dump the lube oil back into the intake for extra, but it's really not necessary as long as your fuel and oil are adjusted correctly to begin with.
I’m coming to revy at the end of the month might have to meet up for a tree ride maybe. I was in sicamous last week was pretty good for the first real ride of the year
Before my back surgery I had a rmk 800 shift i had to do the same thing 10 times my motor blew up 10 times at lest they where all warrantee Then the dealer her said turbo it will not blow up ROUNG IT POPT FASTER KAYLE QUESNEL BC
Sounds like your dealer never fixed the actual issue, just kept dropping motors in. Lean melt downs from clogged injectors, weak fuel pump, bad ECM, bad reeds, etc. will destroy a new motor just as fast as an old one.
wait lol you guys take these unreliable as shit two strokes up where they cant even be towed out??? i had no idea there was spots where they're 'untowable'
Modern two strokes are much more Reliable. I know of several with 15K on the engine before issues. And there are places in the mountains if you go down you are not coming out running sled or no running sled. You need to know where your going.
No Polaris rider wishes BRP, 850 2019 had crank issue. If you work on your own sled and prefer simplicity Polaris is the only way. Wouldn’t be surprised if you need dealership to change Doo spark plugs.
@@allenseferagic9426 I've been riding BRP Bombardier for over 40 years and have never been stranded but I believe that all people should enjoy themselves with all machines all I'm saying is if you don't ride the best that's what will happen
Im a flat lander just Over the border in Hamburg New York and we come up to ride you’re trail systems several times a year and when we come back to our trails system nothing is ever good enough! Lol so I can relate.
Congrats on 10K!!!
He went from 10k to 26k in a month! Its a shame sledding season isnt all year.
With the work those sleds have to do in four feet of snow all day long it's amazing they don't die more often. Cool how you all can get 400 pounds of dead sled out of the woods.
"Large Double Double" Great explanation of a canadian
Buffalo, NY is grateful for the “Large Double Double!” ☕️
Your a good buddy for sure!!
Timmy Ho's!
In the US they don't know what a double double is
"Double Double" in the US is a cheeseburger from IN N OUT Burgers, very tasty.
Crappy deal on the sled blowing up. I stoped riding Polaris due to that. 2008 ,2012. Did the same for me. I guess nothing has changed with their motors. I currently run a 2015 m8000 and love it. Looking for a new sled next season. Will look hard at cat and ski-doo.
I run a m8000 as well. It takes a beating and keeps rippin. Guys with rmks are always fixing something. Or getting new engines under warranty. Warranty’s great and all but when your stranded and can’t ride due to a manufacturer issue I’d be pissed.
Yes we have snow here also that huge 2-4cm.😔
What helmets are you using that the front opens?
Great videos. Sorry to tell everyone, all sleds have issues if you ride enough. It's only a matter of time. It's not if, it's when and then getting it back to the trailer becomes part of the adventure. I'm in my 50's and have been involved in this misfortune with every brand. I personally don't bash any brand. The simple fact that nobody was hurt, nobody got pissed off and everyone got out- thumbs up. I do however feel for the guy, ya hate to see it happen but if you're gonna play, your gonna pay. IMO you put out some of the most realistic, normal videos. It's great to have a awesome group of people to ride with. My hats off to you guys for not getting big headed.
i dont bash any brand either...except arctic scrap.
The best comments on a blown/broken sled vid give actual information about what things break, why, how to fix, warranty, how widespread the issue is, things to watch out for, etc. It’s really hard for riders to get real info on sled issues, so we have to help each other out. Please stay away if all you’ve got is some stupid generalization like ‘This brand sucks’.
You guys made that look so easy. Good break in for new clutches haha.
How much was the heli?
Rethinking the Polaris route. I’m pretty sure all sleds have issues though. Your pops a blast,glad you guys ride together.
Stay safe.🍻🌲
I have patriot 2019 model year, its common problem with shaft, 2020 no problem
2020 they changed the center crank support bearing retention. If you blow a 19 they warranty it with a 20.
Duuude, Polaris is 100% the way to go, this is my favorite channel but that being said its one of the only top channels that isn't riding a Polaris, its just awesome because of Matt. there is a reason 9 out of the 10 top mountain riders ride Polaris.
I’ve had phenomenal luck with Polaris. I have a 2000 rmk 700 with a 155 track and skid under it still goes hard to this day, had a 13 pro rmk 600 thing was bulletproof was the first year of the quick drive so the belt was garbage never had a problem with the updated belt, and now ride a 18 axys 800 it’s got 1300 km on it and just finally wore out it’s main belt never skips a beat she eats 8250 rpm from trail ride in to trail ride out
Ya anything other than brand new will prob have issues
Great Vid 👍👍. What a commercial a Doo towing the Polaris. That sucks for your buddy though. Good luck with tracking down an engine. It takes so long to get parts with Covid. 7 weeks for a set of carb boots for my 800.
Thanks! I know everything is screwed up. He might be on snow by next weekend if all goes well
Putting videos out every other day, NOBODY is working hard as you man!! Editing and everything sheesh keeper up!
To me a stuck is when help is needed, the shovel comes out, or it takes more then a minute to get out
We got 10 inches in the western Maine foothills! We we dancing around our houses waiting for daylight! Then we got a light mist in the middle of the night THAT TURNED IT ALL TO A SEA OF CONCRETE!!! What a kick in the nuts man! Least someone is jammin 🤙
I don't miss the northeast neurotic weather. The snow and trails in northern VT are really good and also tughill if you want to do some traveling
These are really great thank you for uploading!
We have towed sleds out quite a bit. What worked really well was back the tow sled up bumper to bumper with the dead sled and lash them together tight. If you can use something to go between to protect the bumpers like a leather glove etc.
Then hook a second sled up to the front of the tow sled using a Sno bunjee, it makes it so smooth to tow because it can stretch and contract with every little bump and Helps keep the line taut. Using that method we towed up fairly big hills in deep snow.
Motts Machining in Edmonton just Did my buddies engine for his 2015 pro. Cost was $2500 with a exchange cylinder and Crank. He pulled the engine and took it to them. About a week turnaround ish.
Yes and be sure and the belt off, less drag. They have smaller short tow ropes that gives you the bungee effect seem to help also.
That sucks...I know the feeling. Had 3 Poo sleds all grenade or lose a top end all before 1500 miles. Great sleds when they run but the unreliable engines made me switch to Doo in '17...never looked back!
Man we would die for your snow in Australia, now we have hard snow 😉 hardpack sidehillin all day🤣
You can snowmobile in Australia??
@@208SledHead yep sure can 🤙🏽😎
🤘👍had to pullout many sleds using the train method one time 3 sleds to get up one hill... goodtimes!!!
Washington cascades get a deecent amount but its like riding concrete sometimes. North Cascades usually get more than any where else in the lower 48. Mt baker is siiting at about 12ft of pure concrete right now but ill take that instead of now snow any day. Im sure you guys get more up north though. Hope to get up there soon
bring rolled up crazy carpets to put under the track of a downed sled to tow it home.
Bruh ur dads in the mountains that’s awesome😂
Awesome video! Good job on helping the guy out
You're right, snow conditions could be way worse for you guys, as we have right now up in Northern Norway. Only 4 inches of hard crust!
Either way, the only certain thing we get alot of every winter is police in choppers, chasing us like we're Bin Laden on snowmobiles.
Good job on all of your videos! Awesome!
You were a man on a mission when you went for service !
Nice work getting that Poo outta there. Always better if you can handle it yourselves.
So...thoughts on the new clutch kit? The pull for phone service looked like it was holding steady at 8100rpm.
Still tuning
@@MuskokaFreerider ya no doubt. Wasn’t really the best test and tune day. Great content though 👍🏻. Keeping us all entertained.
Awesome!,
You are so lucky to be riding we still have no snow hope to be sledding this weekend 🙏
Here in sweden where i live we have like 1.5 meter of powder snow right now
#metoo...Really fucking nice. Best snow in years!
Aa
That teamwork was awesome, great group of guys! I’m jealous of the snow, but understand the crusty tops, sucky!!
Yeah it’s like riding in Quebec and then coming back to Ontario and expecting the same experience.... it spoils you. But I’m drooling watching these vids man. Keep it up!
Duuude....were you in the skidoo comercial I just saw on my tv in Michigan???
Yeah I would’ve been haha
@@MuskokaFreerider thats awesome man!! My son noticed it was you. I like how they said in the commercial "we just took some average everyday riders"..lol..you're not an average everyday rider.
Nice country out there.. here in Ontario the snow is minimal... I used to live in Nelson and Cranbrook you can't beat British Columbia for riding man.. I've uploaded a few videos from here..check them out...
Sure is. Yeah Ontario has decent trail riding but that’s about it
@@MuskokaFreerider yup lol no big powder mountains here..
Love the teamwork! I've been there before! No friend left behind!
That’s right!
A guy I was ridin with today calls that hero snow.
Yup
Well, you’re not gonna tell us how much the helli would’ve been?
Haha I never ended up getting a price generally it’s anywhere from 600-1200
@@MuskokaFreerider last year it was 2250/hr with a 650 minimum... It seemed very easy to get out of there though
@@MuskokaFreerider WHAT?!!! To get a snowmobile out?
Last time I had to get a sky hook about 5 years ago out of blue River it was 1500/ Hr.
@@polisen4216 heli skiing is about a grand a day and that per person
Hope that guy had a warranty
3 year warranty for 2019 model yaer😁, only now i get it, why its so long, 2019 850 engine was not checked well
@@hirosima19843 years warranty for a machine that costs 15,000 dollars isn't that long.... Especially if your motor blows after only a few years of ownership.
Damn that turbo 165 is a beast nothing phases it.
Love the videos man keep them up 🤘🏻🤙🏻
It tows better and is safer for your tunnel if you take the ski and strap it up tight to side of your bumper where it's stronger and that sled will stay right with you no problem
Bqckwoods enguinity 👏🏻💎 Glad you get back. Do you know the reason why that Polaris broke down
Just curious, can you not tow it by strapping a ski up tight to your bumper? That's how we do it flatland. Is it because it's deep snow that you do it that way.
You can but this gives some extra traction. More wheelie though haha
Love these videos! I hope you guys go to Chile one summer! 👌🏽👍🏼
That would be pretty rad!
Been there my friend
Teamwork 👍👍💪 "many hands make light work".
What caused the the engine to seize?
Rod i think
I’m in Sweden and it’s really good snow here except it could be a bit more
Where are you in Sweden? I am between jämtland and Lappland and we have like aloooot of snow.
@@jankriegerinc.9001 Insane powder up in Kiruna at the moment :)
@@kribaska It hasnt snowed in weeks for us.. :(
What year is his? Also is it an 850?....my 21 crank went on my 850n going to the shop tuesday
19 850
@@MuskokaFreerider ah man hope he gets back up soon....I'm praying they got parts in stock
A bunch of trenching skidoo’s, a blown up Polaris 850....all this video is missing is a bent Alpha rail 😂
good job never leave a bro behind !!!
Did your buddy figure out why his engine seized? Sounds like a connecting rod broke.
Once that Polaris is back up and running make sure to turn up the oil flow. They come from factory too lean as it is. With my Buddies turbo its turned up to maximum output. (15 Pro)
No. The 850's have electric pumps. They're not like the pros that may have been anywhere between 60:1 and 90:1. The correct thing to do is set it for 50:1, or you'll be fouling plugs like crazy.
More than likely they had the center crank bearing failure.
We have found its easier to tie the front and rear bumper with a tie down. No slack. Just have someone sit on the back when tieing it off . Tows a ton easier.
Less resistance on snow this way. Worked pretty good till we go to the trail
Thats frisby not boulder?
Shhhhhh
Lol
i live in northern norway and there is less than a cm of snow😭. last year i could start riding in november.
Norway Maine?
@@janemccabe603 ?
Do you live in Maine
@@janemccabe603 mainland in norway?
Real life snowmobile tales!
Large double double kinda guy eh
Big storm expected tonight in North-West NB , hopefully ride tomorrow
the ole clutching made a tow machine!
Subscribed.
Thanks!
Let us know what they found for the engine failure
Agreed - and how the dude is doing getting her gong again
give u a dollar for that blown up sled 🤣🤣
Me, my dad and his friend have been on a trip today and I have a polaris iq (144) and my dad a summit (175) and I got stuck the whole time and then I tried my dads and it was like riding on clouds
That is "exactly" how it is!
Its nice to see teamwork...hope nobody was all pissed about it.
I remember my first Polaris Snowmobile... I walked all the way home...
Poor Polaris guy, it brought me right back to the days I wrenched for Polaris and the liberty 800’s were blowing up left and right. Btw down here a double double is a burger lol. 🤙
Look like it's a 2019. If it's under warranty have him make suer they put the updated 2020 motor in it. If it's not warranty. Have him get a Long Rod Indy Dan motor. I believe he has them in Stock and he does all of the fixes for the 19' 850 issues.
No wonder it got blown up it’s a Polaris. And Polaris stands for pull of lake and repair in spring
Hahaha best sh** I herd in a while👍👍
Not very much snow here in northern California . Fuckin weak this year
you guys are lucky you had that ice layer under the snow i dont think you woulda been towing the sled out with a fresh dump of snow
Just would’ve had to pack the trail and let it set up longer
Yeah turned into a interesting day!! Haha
Was that just paracord that to tied to the front sled to tow you? Did it break ever? Looks like it worked good because it had some flex compared to rope or mule tape. Keep up the vids. no snow here and need to pass the time.
I was wondering that too, but idk if 550 doubled could take a decent shock
Yeah just paracord and it never broke.
You guys ever carry mule tape it's so small and lightweight with a 1250 pound rating on the small stuff and a 2500 pound on the bigger but still small stuff.
@@bolester68 I carry mule tape but it won't stretch. Might pull a bumper off if I get to much slack in it. I also carry paracord but didn't think it would work to pull like that.
you know Rodney Chayko?
Turbo on 146 2021 freeride?
No
Wait...why wouldn't you tell us how much for the Heli rescue?
Didn’t end up getting a price
I’m currently riding Axys RMK & you couldn’t pay me to own a 19 850. Such a POS engine. My 800 goes everywhere the 850’s will & starts cold without flooding itself like some Polaris 850’s still do.
Yeah jerk. No snow in northern Michigan. Headed to Montana end of February.
No Snow here yet....Kalispell Area..
Tuning needs to be bang on.. on a turbo 2 stroke. No oil in the case for back up.. just my own opinion. And I'm only a plumber.
If your lean a hair. Boom goes the dynamite
The oil is injected straight into the bottom end bearings where it's needed.
Some of the turbo kits do dump the lube oil back into the intake for extra, but it's really not necessary as long as your fuel and oil are adjusted correctly to begin with.
Do you think you'll ride elsewhere in BC?
I would like to at some point
i have no snow on newfoundland
Was that an 850 poo? Hope he bought you a new belt for the trouble!
Yeah 2019
I’m coming to revy at the end of the month might have to meet up for a tree ride maybe. I was in sicamous last week was pretty good for the first real ride of the year
I bet his next sled in a Yamaha.
In ontario right now were getting our first real snow storm.
Where.? Not in north bay right now lol
@@EYECOMEINPEACE pembroke just on the other side of the park mate.
@@Gabriel-x2y here in Quebec it's a big snow storm near 45-50 cm of snow!
@@benlegare81 nice
@@benlegare81 ou Qc quebec
Before my back surgery I had a rmk 800 shift i had to do the same thing 10 times my motor blew up 10 times at lest they where all warrantee
Then the dealer her said turbo it will not blow up ROUNG IT POPT FASTER KAYLE QUESNEL BC
Sounds like your dealer never fixed the actual issue, just kept dropping motors in. Lean melt downs from clogged injectors, weak fuel pump, bad ECM, bad reeds, etc. will destroy a new motor just as fast as an old one.
Yes now I can prove that polarisas are the worst
It’s not a stuck if you don’t use a shovel, need any assistance, or if there are no witnesses lol
8:05 is why I don't buy Polaris
Palharis. Not good. Skidoo is best.
Theres way better spots than Boulder and Revelstoke in BC dude thats just a tourist spot 🤣🤣🤣
No we got shit loads of snow. Alaska
What a sickening feeling. I hope I never hafta experience that.
RRRRAAAAAAAshshshh
Typical Poolaris here eh.
wait lol you guys take these unreliable as shit two strokes up where they cant even be towed out??? i had no idea there was spots where they're 'untowable'
Modern two strokes are much more Reliable. I know of several with 15K on the engine before issues. And there are places in the mountains if you go down you are not coming out running sled or no running sled. You need to know where your going.
Well, the other option is the heavy pig 4 strokes that can't get out either way.
I bet he wishes he was a BRP man now when you're all the way out in BC
No Polaris rider wishes BRP, 850 2019 had crank issue. If you work on your own sled and prefer simplicity Polaris is the only way. Wouldn’t be surprised if you need dealership to change Doo spark plugs.
@@allenseferagic9426 Simplicity left him stranded
@@RodMac1 Doesn’t matter what color you ride you’ll get stranded eventually. What will be cheaper and easier to repair.
@@allenseferagic9426 I've been riding BRP Bombardier for over 40 years and have never been stranded but I believe that all people should enjoy themselves with all machines all I'm saying is if you don't ride the best that's what will happen
Or u boys could ride cat ,you'll notice there built better, stronger but whatever its your bucks
Typical junk Polaris