my dad always said "dont follow the herd into the slaughter". i got accepted into Ucla right out of high school but when i saw the prices, i just went to a community college and became a plumber im 22 now best decision ever.
My wife went ucla and got job at boston consulting out of college due to ucla connections, ,made $90k upon graduation in 2011, best decision ever. College is good if you know what you are getting out of it. Right now she's making over $250k a year, all because of UCLA
Brilliant !!... I have a high school diploma, dropped out of college after seeing what it would cost. Luckily I graduated from a vocational highschool, became an electrician and I make $80k a year ( no college degree, no loans) I'm not bragging, just saying that all the trade jobs that people look down at are the ones who are having the last laugh. Sad situation though
@@mecca3000 Sounds great, i'm sure people looked down on you too when you dropped out, and maybe still do, but you did the right thing for yourself, and as long as it helps you, it does not matter what they think. Guess what, ironically those same people might call you and need you when they have a black out and they give you a really expensive check while they are making ends meet paying back their six figure loan debt. Looks like you'll be laughing all the way to the bank, (figuratively speaking). Congratulations.
Worked 2 extra jobs and had no life for 2 years. Lived on nothing and sold a bunch of stuff. It sounds rough but was actually a fun adventure. It wasn't a get rich quick scam, it was work and budget. Say no a lot to you're friends, get off social media. Most people will make fun of you but towards the end they look at you like a hero and that you did something they wish they could do... Which they can they just won't sacrifice to win
No problem bud! Don't listen to these whiners on this documentary. You're not a victim, you're the hero of this story. Go put on the cape and get to work! :)
+BryceJohnson88 i will have 44k in student federal loans and 15k in private loans. I have saved up a good 12k in my savings. By the end of next year I will a good 10k also in my savings. I just hate of all that money going away to pay off my loans. I would rather put that money as a downpayment on an apt. :/
My Needs: food, shelter, love of kids/spouse. Nothing else matters. We will all turn to dust and none of this will matter. I never went to college. I owe for our home. I drive an old paid for car. We buy mostly used. I used to be obsessed about money and stuff. I'm 32 and pretty much happy with my life. My advice; nothing is worth stressing out about.
Secret to no loan debt... My story: Worked for an employer that offered tuition reimbursement. Worked full time, went to school part time. Graduated engineering and chemistry at age 29. No debt. Had a 6-figure job in corporate America for years. My wife and I have 8 children. 6 went to college, 1 in college, one is 13 years old. Wife stayed home, homeshooled our kids. I could afford to have a wife at home and raise 8 kids because I could afford it. Lived in a modest home. No new cars. My kids went to community college for 2 years, then the University of Washington, if they wished, for two years. One got a masters degree out of state, had a scholarship, but I still paid a difference. If you want to go from high school to a 4-year out-of-state University you will get crushed, and more so if you want a masters degree. If the goal is an education that you can use to make a living, then go to a community college where the teachers care about you, and go to a state university for the last two years, live at home (my kids did), and then work your butt off. None of my kids have any college debt. You can do it beloved, you can do it! Avoid debt like the plague! If you are getting ready for school, please heed my words. If you already have a load of debt, don't cry, but get into a Dave Ramsey program. It is your responsibility. The system is rigged against you. Government is the problem. They created this. They will not fix it. Take charge of your life and climb out of the hole the government convinced you to get in to.
They really don’t teach no one this in high school luckily I had a debt avoidance mentality and went to community college for two years then to a state university, all of which was a 15 minute train ride away, lived with my parents and worked full time while I was in community college while going to school full time, currently getting my masters (no student debt) and I have a job offer from an internship for a pretty good salary for someone my age (22), community college was definitely the best decision I ever made so far in my life.
Glad it worked out for you but in all honesty EFF corporate America. If you’re banking on corporate America to save you or stability you’ve got it all wrong!
@@Essays4College Small companies do this to, not just mega corporations... Said nothing about banking on corporate America saving me, chill out dude and pay your loans off...
@@Knaeben Why would I hang out at the unemployment office when I'm busy with my job and my own life? Also, what does the unemployment office have to do with borrowing money? Are people so pathetic that they truly believe certain jobs are beneath them? If anything, they are beneath such jobs and will remain beneath them until they understand.
Contrary to popular belief, you do not need to go to school to learn most things. Aside from basic reading, writing and math, you can learn almost everything else online.
+AmandaNerdBot I agree, but not for everyone. Some people require structure, because they don't have the self motivation to learn on their own. Additionally, in school, you're forced to learn a whole variety of subjects, which potentially facilitates you in discovering something that you had no idea you were interested in. That being said, it's still not worth taking out a student loan, putting yourself into serious debt, only to graduate without a job.
Seriously? I wish I never went to school in the first place! What an awesome attitude considering your login is College Admissions Review! The colleges did little to nothing to ensure we truly understood what we were getting into because they wanted the money! Give me a break!
Learn that most debt is dischargeable in a bankruptcy except student loans. If people can't comprehend that risk then they are unsuitable to attend university.
Or have a rich family. I remember my roommates dad coming to the school and dropping 20 grand on his schooling a couple times a year. That kid never had an issue.
I worked in high school, during college and ended up with $10k in loans when I graduated. That was in 1998 - when a four year degree was about $40k. I can't imagine do the same now with the cost of education.
Just by listening to some of their voices, you could feel the sense of hopelessness. Lucky for me, I worked while going to college and took out few student loans. My current balance is $1,900 and will be debt free soon. Good luck to all!
I get so tired of the arguments, “just don’t go to college”, “get a STEM degree”, “work to pay your tuition” or lastly, “know what you sign before you sign”. When my generation(I’m 30) was coming through HS we were taught that if you got a college degree you would earn enough to live a good life. The whole damn world pushes college down your throat, I’m the only college graduate in my family. When you’re 17/18 you don’t know the details surrounding student loans, all you know is you want to go to college to make a better life for yourself.
Get a stem degree from the cheapest community or state college near you. Ace it. Get a job right after college... Work your way to the top product companies.
17/18 years old able to calculate percentages. It is not right that loans are given so irresponsibly, however it is not right to take a loan if you don't understand that you have to pay it back. How is it possible to be mentally alert enough to be able to attend college and in the same time un-able to do basic mats? Please do a strict budget, get a second job if needed, pay back your debt and start building your wealth. You can do it. Complaining may not help you, however creating a plan of your future and working towards it will change your life.
@@themissingtile2828 The parents knowledge only important if they are involved and participate in borrowing the money. The student loans given to the students directly?
One solution is to make financial education a requirement in our schools. In my 20+ years of being a "good student" in "good schools", I was required to learn a lot of subjects, including philosophy, kinesiology, and religion, but no one taught me about promissory notes, mortgages, taxes, and other things that impact quality of life. Do you know that our children are graduating high school without even being taught how to email? In 2014.
exactly this. In my high school, I was supposed to learn all the bullshit, like what the 95 theses were in history, why chaucer wrote a 500 page book, etc etc, and write 3 pages of useless papers. Instead of teaching us practical, real life skills we can use even during high school, like accounting, importance of debt management, how to trade stocks (to make $ on the side), etc.
I took economics in high school. We monitored stocks and did mock investments. I learned about student loan debt. Maybe that is why I took out under $15,000 for both degrees. I officially had it paid off 6 years after I got my Master's degree. So they do offer these classes. In fact in Maryland I think Economics is mandatory for graduation.
They don't want kids to understand this stuff. The system wants them to end up in debt. The us public school system (for the most part) does not produce adults prepared for life and capable of critical thinking.
I didn't go to college because my family was poor. Now these people expect me as a tax payer to pay for their education. My son graduated with a BS and Masters Degree in math with zero college loans. He worked his way through school. The people in this video should have done the same.
J. Fadness Hey I agree, but at the same time not everybody thought to do this. It just didn't come to mind to them. But it DEFINETELY would have benefitted them if it came to mind to them!
I got 80% of my tuition paid for, and worked 3 jobs in school. I still needed to take out student loans. I had no financial help from parents in anyway. The first four years after college went well. Then I was disabled for 6 years (meaning officially disabled receiving SSDI which only enough to cover basic survival). Upon recovery my loans were doubled. I went to graduate school with almost full scholarship, I paid a couple grand out of pocket, no loans. When I graduated in 2008, good luck finding employment. I worked with the disabled but they cut funding and lost those jobs. I worked independently selling things on eBay since then which was subsistence income. My loans are now tripled. During the time I was not officially disabled, I still have a disability which means I worked around it the best I could. There are so many problems with the student loan system. The biggest problem is the loans are a Wall Street product. There is very little incentive to change the system or forgive loans or restore bankruptcy protection. Another problem is young people with certain talents and career goals have been told over and over "it will all be worth it". The students and the American citizens takes all the risks. Banks, Wall Street, and the schools take NO risks. It is guaranteed for THEM. There are much better ways to make schools affordable. Scrapping the student loan system all together would be good. In the EU the schools remain affordable. A degree there at most will cost approximately 10,000. Private schools are also affordable at most 30,000 and what they do is take the money out of your income for ten years if you are making a certain amount. It is different than loans with high percentage rates that can't be discharged. The current system is immoral. And 18 year olds are being suckered into a product that often does not do them well and is riskier than they tell you for many. This is predatory lending. A millionaire Trump can have his businesses declare bankruptcy 4 times. But students can't declare bankruptcy at all. This is deplorable.
I have an idea..Why is bankruptcy perfectly legal to relieve corporations and corporate scam artists of debt but not college grads who can't get a job in this awful economy? If there is no means of ridding student loan debt for college grads that don't have a cent to their name then why not just leave the U.S. and move to another country?
This is actually a legitimate question that I have. What if I just left the country permanently and went to live somewhere else? My parents are from another country and I have lots of family there as well as citizenship through my parents. It is a wonderful place to live and I could have a really nice life there. No one else is tied to my debt here in the US and I could always just come to visit as I am a citizen here too. I am seriously considering this option.
The debt would just continue to grow.it will never go away. If u are a citizen u are required to file taxes on foreign debt. There's people that have tried it. Just be careful on what kind of income u make in the other country. Also make sure u don't have a co signer on ur debt or they will go after the co signer first.
Cause your politicians just need you when is voting time, and they need the finnancing and corporation groups for the rest of the time. So they suck their cocks, get their money, in return they give them special treatment and and laws to favor does groups and forget about your ass. Did that helped explain it to you?
"The social engeneers have done a brilliant job enslaving the masses." Next comes the 5G grid to make sure people comply with the system. Those who fall will be put in the private jail system. Welcome to Oswald's Brave New World.
No, you have a miniscule chance of winning the lottery, but you can choose a more in-demand degree to pursue that greatly increase your chances of getting a decent-paying job after graduation that has a solid future.
I joined the navy specifically to get the Gi Bill. It sucked a lot of the times, but I got out and went to school in California for free and got a huge living stipend every month. Just graduated and make $96k now debt free. Best decision I ever made was to join the military.
I'm making $1,000 a week working 14 hour days, 5 days a week, with no college degree, no student loan debt, and I'm actually building my credit up. I work my ass off, I enjoy my job and I don't have to worry about collection companies calling me up EVERY day, wanting to know where their money is. So to money hungry colleges, universities and loan companies, NO THANK YOU. You're not pulling me into your financial traps, especially with no guaranteed jobs out there.
Girl yes those idiot voters are! They keep voting for the people who keep is financially enslaved to be able to nationalize their losses and privatize their earnings& gains+ to get bailouts whenever they want to. If these voting idiots are receiving a higher education who can tell by the way the idiots constantly& repeatedly vote against themselves⁉
The banks mostly paid that money back with interest, the US Government made money off of TARP. These people just want a straight-up blank check. There's a big difference.
My Pell grant, state need based scholarship, working and a budget allowed me to graduate debt free, I repeated this for grad school - I saw folks spend like mad while in school on shopping, trips, luxury apartments, eating out daily, and nice cars. I knew a girl who was paying out of state rate, using loans to fund school and really wanted to stay in school another year to be with their friends... like not even thinking of getting their first job out of school and living in the area or critically thinking about the $ they have to pay back. No debt forgiveness without people owning their choices. It should be examined like bankruptcy court.
I could not afford college. My high school required acceptance into college in order to graduate and promised students that if we graduated college we would be rewarded with high paying jobs. My parents cosigned my private loans because they bought into the idea that if I had a degree then I would never have to work the dirty jobs that they had to work for their whole lives. My college professors even promised students that we would have high paying jobs after graduation. Where are those jobs?
try to choose a degree you know will make u money like something In Healthcare or Computers.. gosh, students in Truck Drivers schools are better than some of these poor kids. Stay within your State to avoid out of state fees and stay with MA instead of those overpriced dorms.
try to choose a degree you know will make u money like something In Healthcare or Computers.. gosh, students in Truck Drivers schools are better than some of these poor kids. Stay within your State to avoid out of state fees and stay with MA instead of those overpriced dorms.
Pink Pearls trur that i was a mechanic at 19-21 the police at 21 nd now im 25 as a truck driver fuel tanker nd im loving it $85k per year now bought a 2016 mustang nd 2017 kawasaki ninja
If it were really that simple, no one would do any of this, but unfortunately your comment is just a pipe dream versus reality. It’s not that simple. People still go to college and that still and admirable quality but our times are changing. People need to be better educated on the pros and cons, that’s how it changes.
Next time you get yourself into a commitment and sign on the dotted line, read the contract and understand what your getting into. Most people just want to get the car, the house, go to college, and they never read what they are getting into. If you don't understand it, get an attorney to interrupt it, or get someone who is knowledgeable to explain it. When someone wants you to take a loan, or a contract they want something from you. Most of it isn't in your best interest.
Ace1000ks1975 this right here is the best advice. You have to read your contracts and stipulations. Kids and eager people wanting to change their life for better is always admirable but you have to take the time to do the research and gain an understanding of what’s expected of you to fund an education. The rising of interest rates is the biggest culprit for why people can’t make payments. Interest makes everything worse about a loan. I believe most people would pay back their loans if interest wasn’t such a huge problem.
I rather not go to college than go in debt. I can go for a 2year degree in a community college and working to pay for classes till I graduate. The reason why people go in debt for education is more because of prestige
There are cheaper ways to go to school, these ppl did not do enough research. I were to Uni for one year and said yea, this is not for me and went to college and instead paid under 10k for 2 years for a tech job.
I suppose it's completely out of the question to educate parents and students during the high school years about debt, interest, and how to evaluate what level of debt might be appropriate in different circumstances.
this is sad, people go to college to better their lives and end up worse than the guy who dropped out in high school and now has a longer work history, and they now have to work next to him with their piece of paper that says they are ''smarter''. sad.
It has been just over a year since I paid off my student loan. I felt like I could finally plan for the future - buy a home, have a family and save. My life on hold when I had this student loan over me. I feel for others who still have their loans over their heads and all I can say is not to give up and think of that light at the end of the tunnel.
It's grievous to witness what BA (BS, etc.) & MA (MS, MLS., etc.) students today must endure for an university education. I'm 70 now, so I was a student of 1960s, beginning of 1970s univ. ed.. I paid such tiny tuition as undergrad at U. Mass. at Boston! Education was nearly free, really (& that was without scholarships, although I did have Vet benefits). At Kent State U., I went on on to MLS degree, still with Vet ben., aid & stipend. I worked in those years too but graduated debt free. Lucky!
So we shouldn't expect them to make sound financial decisions, but we're fine with them voting? You're an adult or you're a child. You don't get to mix and match.
Idiodyssey87 voting for measures, laws or political policies/figures has nothing to do with making “sound” financial decisions. Don’t mix and match the two together. What you believe to be a sound financial decision may not necessarily be the same to me. That’s all subjective. You might think buying a house is a good decision when I don’t feel the same at the moment in my life. Going to college and being able to make something of yourself in whatever you want to do is a good decision. Taking out loans and funding your education isn’t a bad or a good move. It has its traps and it’s problems but it can also have its benefits. Not all people who take out loans get to reap the benefits of funding an education. The world is rapidly changing. The job markets are changing, the economy is adjusting all the time. Nothing is consistent. Some people can make ends meet and make those payments even when they are getting screwed over. And trust me, any bank that lends you money is screwing you over because you pay it back with interest whether you want to or not. And that’s the issue at hand, interest accrues daily on a loan. Federal loans are easier to pay off because of the benefit of getting lower payments based on financial situation. Private Student loans are the biggest problem. They offer no assistance, and very little room to breath. This type of loan is a dangerous one. Not many people understand or know this because at the time of signing for the loan, you aren’t made aware of the problems with Private Loans. You don’t get told that if you need lower payments, you won’t get that assistance. The loan company can make your life a living hell even when you pay on time and in full. They want interest and sometimes they will raise your interest rates to a point where you can’t even make affordable payments anymore. So don’t make judgements at people who are only trying to live their life the best they can. It’s a huge injustice to people like you and me when these banks decide to take your money with tons of interest tacked on to an original amount. If you take out $10K with a private loan, you’ll most likely be paying double that because of interest rates. You can’t control it. It’s not possible. Most people are aware of this until they are forced to take out a private loan. Do you not understand that? Why is this such a difficult issue to understand? It’s not just lazy people not wanting to pay back their loans. If this is what you think you’re profoundly wrong.
I was 18 years old when I walked out of the financial aid office in tears when I was told it would cost me $5,000 a year in loans. I knew I did not have the money to pay that and my parents don’t have money either to pay up front. So I went to the school I did not like. Accepted my fate. Stop complaining! Can’t always blame others for your lack of judgement.
Dont get a worthless degree ie anything in Humanities or Liberal Arts. The only degrees worth getting are anything in the medical field and some science degrees. Other than this, college is toilet paper.
Every upper middle class happy vacation taking, muscle car driving, fancy dinners out having, discretionary income spending, 401 k filled person I know is in a trade. Electrician, fitter, plumber, steel worker etc. Every down and out debt up to their ears, broken down prius driving, living with their parents well into their 30s, credit card maxed out, no retirement savings is someone who chased higher education along with studies abroad on some really useful humanities majors. At best, they get jobs at Starbucks. I tip em well
There are many companies willing to pay some or all of your educational expenses. Find them & work there. My daughter worked at a hospital - they paid for her RTR (X-ray tech) degree. She now does CT scans at a children’s hospital & loves it.✌🏽😎🇺🇸
I am no genius, but I was never stupid enough to get myself in $50,000 of debt. I went to a Commnity College, and then a State university. I am about to finish my Master's degree with $11,000 of total student debt. I'll pay it off in 8 years. Why is this so hard for others to do?
I'm so sick of being told that if I did what I was told, I would come out of college making a living, but instead, I am working part-time and living off of my Dad in a rented room at age 26. I graduated from Vanderbilt University in Biology, and I have basically chosen to go teach English in South Korea for $20,000 a year. I hope to learn their language and find a TRUE job in a REAL moving economy. The future lies not in our grandpa's USA.
these are the kids of the parents who signed for subprime mortgages what did you think was going to happen ? there obviously needs to be far more economics discussion in high school and a break down on what jobs pay what. clueless people
As a lawyer myself, I struggle to understand how you attend law school without researching the average income of attorneys in the private and public sector (big difference) in your area. Being a lawyer does not automatically equal being rich. Far from it.
14:08 -> This is basically debt slavery. This is the same mechanism, through which human traffickers(=modern day slavers) control their victims. There is no difference.
Freddy Garcia Yes research all the propaganda devised to lead you right into the trap so the corporate pigs can milk their cash cows for all they're worth. It's the American Nightmare.
+Soferia Nebruin not everybody should be going to college especially if they have to fiance thousands of dollars in loans that when they are done with school want to be forgiven from and not pay wat they owe
So thankful when I went to University back in 81, you were only allowed to borrow a small portion of your tuition. The student was responsible to contribute if you applied for aid. They should never allow for people to borrow the whole amount for tuition. Now we're 1 trillion in debt due to Students borrowing excessive amounts.
I have no student loan and no Bachelor degree but and i have a 6 figure income because I'm hard headed and I worked hard to get the job I have now. At the end it is not a piece of paper it is the skills you earned in jobs over the years. My degree from Germany is compared to a associates degree here in US but all my supervisors I had in the past couple years tell me that this degree is worth much more than a bachelor degree from one of this worthless university's. Education is not a right it is a privilege and not everybody has the brain to go to a university but everybody can build up skills to get a good paying job if he or she wants.
I'm amazed a lawyer was unaware that the interest would be accrued to the loan while in forbearance. Moral of the story is be very aware of what you sign for. No sympathy for anybody who does not bother to understand a contract they sign. Free money does not exist.
+天子 Because most should have never went to College. That is the root of the problem. We are always trying to regulate fairness and say everyone is entitled to everything. Its a lie and it will never work. You will hear people say things like..."well, I'm the first in my family to go to College". Ok, so that means they were all dummies? No, it means they couldn't afford it and didn't go. That mentality needs to come back.
Soferia Nebruin I agree there were powers to be behind all this. When I saw the bankruptcy laws being changed (lobbied) and they were leaving student loans off the books I knew the fix was in. But you can't tell people these things. But then again the forces are so strong out there. Everyday these people are getting hit with "college or beggar" from every angle. Its tough to rise above that.
I never went to College because I never consider myself has a smart person and plus I never have money to go anyway so after High School I started to work at the McDonald with my first job than I leave and find another job that pay $15 per hour (currently employed) and I been working for 8 years now and save about 40 thousand dollars on saving account in case something happen to my current job (layoff, closed down). I think about my future because I know that if peoples around me disappear I will be alone but at least I got the expanded money to support myself in case shit go wrong.
FireMinstrel I am sorry but I don't think I am smart as you can see how I type my sentences (grammar errors). That why I don't have motivation to go to Community College even if I want to. Now peoples think I'm a loser that never have College education. I don't want to waste my money something that I can't achieve in other word I am afraid to fail and wasted my time. That why I just continue to keep on working and put away at least $100 on my saving account when paycheck come on Thursday, $50 dollar on checking (depend on the situation), and $30 dollar pocket money for a week the rest I save it up to pay bill on monthly rent, phone,car insurance, utilities, etc I wish I live for free LMAO. But anyway that why I don't consider myself "smart" because I never went to College. I am not saying all College are smart but at least they have a College Degree to show for and make peoples around them proud and I don't (peoples keep saying I should go to College) and I feel like a total loser :(.
Kiko Montes You need to get yourself into a trade school and learn welding or electrical work you can make 15-20 easy for like 4 grand and less than a year of schooling.
Charles Hart I worked at a insulation company for two years to save up for a trade school learning how to pipe weld for a year(about $7,000) and now I have a job making 28 an hour working 12 hour days repairing boiler tubes at power plants. Easily bringing in 70k + a year with no debt and no one to take care of but myself.
Bruce R. Cool man good to hear I went to college and it was a good experience and I do have a minimal amount of debt but, I wish someone would of sat me down to weigh the alternatives. Right now I am learning welding part time outside of work and its enjoyable because you are making something. Best part about it is that there is always a need.
listen, I went into the bank to get a credit card and when they saw I was a student, they told me I needed a loan. I refused because I didn't need it at the time and I knew from other people that those people are looking for commissions and don't give a crap about you or what you need. Keep your debt as low as you can or you'll be another slave to the banks.
What is think we should do with lower education (K-12) is make more vocational training programs integrated into high schools. That way, more students will more easily get the job skills they actually need for careers of today!
My accounting degree in Australia totals up to $25k in total in Australia. You Americans get ripped off but that doesn't matter with all the knowledge you gathered in college Start business and some money.
AMEN! They want to be taken care of, thinking that an 'elite' degree will pave their road in life with gold, but it won't. They want to basically be taken care of and not lift a single finger or take a real risk.
Never blame others for your problems. The greatest form of maturity is accepting full responsibility. If you say that you didn't know that a Bachelors of Arts is worthless, that's your fault. Ignorance is not bliss.
+reardelt apparently a bachelors in accounting and IT is also worthless, even when graduating with honors, since i cannot get a job in the field i got my degree in. btw, YOU will be paying for my tuition bill through increased taxes, not me, since i have no job with which to pay. next time, create an economy that allows people to get a job with decent wages instead of trying to whore all the money to yourself. im waiting for the masses of this country to refuse to repay the 1.3 trillion dollars of student loan debt, and thus crash the economy and your precious country along with it. you dont want to be compassionate? why should we?
My life is a nightmare from student loans.... I think about killing myself everyday because I'm sick of going to work for absolutely no reason... My debt is going to kill me one way or another
Awww, life didn't turn out the way you wanted it to. I had to work through crap jobs. I still took certifications and tried to broaden my knowledge. I attended workshops. This is the problem with youth nowadays, they want everything handed to them. If it doesn't work for you, expect someone else to do it for you and/or quit. You signed on the dotted line. You made that decision.
They didn't give enough information for you to be so judge mental. Maybe they are working a crap job or two of them. Maybe they worked very hard in school and couldn't find a job in their field. The possibilities are endless what they have done and still didn't make it. The system we've put in place is hurting a lot of people who did what they were supposed to. Give people a break, it's not every single persons fault if they are suffering.
How do you graduate with a degree in law and not understand compounding interest? I can see why you are having trouble finding employment. I find it pretty ridiculous that you can somehow graduate with a college degree in anything and still be financially illiterate.
@@gregorymorris8343 That would actually raise tuition because more people would be willing to take on the risk. The only way to bring tuition down is to introduce new competition that is more affordable. The ONLY way universities will reduce tuition is if those seats become empty and they need to fill them.
Synapse2k I think it would actually lower tuition costs if you could declare bankruptcy on it. Lenders would be more discerning about who they actually give loans to. If more people would be ineligible for the loans, tuition would have to go down in order for schools to stay in business. I guess we’ll never know which scenario is right because they will never allow that to happen.
I've taken a vow to never take out a loan in my life because I knew from get that they were a rip off. I will never loan money in order to get an education, it either has to come out of the money I already have at my disposal or from scholarships.
Part 2: My Professor is pressuring me to take out a loan & continue school. Apart of me says it's importance to discipline myself further. I feel there's so much to learn about art, so I'm not done. But the other part of me feel that these professors purposely want students to fall into debt because in many ways, they seem to work with the system. Personal reasons get into the way of me receiving a regular job, & my mother & step-dad are trying to support the household the best they can.
I came from a single parent household, and payed my own way thrugh a small cheep local college. I got no help from my parents, just paid my own way by working part time while in college and working on fishing boats during the summer. It can be done debt free... Just don't expect to go to a really expensive school.
Part 1: I'm currently a community college student who majors in Graphic Design & will soon receive my A.A.. FASFA covers my tuition. Despite my skills being great & having this confidence that I'll become a very successful artist in the future, the road is becoming harder for me. I recently found out that GD is one of the worst jobs to have in this recession. It's becoming increasingly competitive and the demand is very high: a B.A. or higher is now required.
Between my wife and I we paid off $60k of loans in less than one year. Listen to Dave Ramsey and follow his advice and live well below your means while you pay off your debts. It can be done it's just a matter of doing it.
Do any people think of working and saving up first and go to school? I live in Japan and parents and family try hard to save up money for kids' college. Many kids start working part-time job around 16 if parents don't have enough financial supports, so they can prepare for school. If they still don't have enough, then they don't go to college first, but work firt untill they can save up enough. Also, while they work, they might get more better idea about whether they need to go to college or what they want and need to learn at college.
I left school at 17 because I was poor (doing well now). I don't want your debt paid off with my tax. You should pay for your mistakes and let me pay for my own life.
Wow! Where I live you only would get minimum wage, $8.35 an hr., to deliver pizza. And you'd have to work 50 - 60 hrs a week + tips to make $1000 a month after taxes! Must be nice!
Parents must talk to their kids. I graduated 10 years ago with my BA. I taught for 5 years at Title 1 school. I taught SPED. I got both my degrees for $14,082. I made 6 years of payments after I got my Master's degree. The Teacher Loan Forgiveness plan forgave the remaining balance on my loans. I have 3 kids I'm saving for college for. I ONLY plan on sending them to trade school. I would ONLY pay for a 4 year degree in a STEM, Finance, Business, Medical, Forensic Science, Dental, OT, or Speech degree. I'm NOT paying for a crappy and or artisty degree. Those jobs don't exist! #FACTS
this is what america has come to...if feel bad for your kids...let them do for themselves and follow their own dreams...wherever it takes them...teach them to be frugal and to live simply...my parents never paid for my education...I had to work for everything...don't limit them with your money.
Stacy Jackson I grew up with nothing! Was in fostercare! I want my kids to achieve more then I did! My husband's an immigrate came from El Salvador. Money is a fact of LIFE. Choosing a crappy major my kids would have to work to pay for that. If they choose a trade like plumbing, electrician, mechanic, etc... I would be happy! Or like I said a STEMM job. College isn't the time to find yourself or to mind your mission in life. Hard decidons and detailed planning are needed for life. Being broke in debt and living with your parents is not the way to go in LIFE. And I definitely have shown my kids how to live frugally shop at Walmart, coupons, cook food at home, take hand me down clothes and shoes. If I buy shoes I goto Payless with a 15% coupon. I'm trying to build wealth. You might not know but its a huge wealth gap in America not just between the 99% and the 1%, but all among the different racial groups. The average Hispanics family has 10% the wealth as the average White family. So being happy and all is good but will continue my family being broke and venerable in LIFE!
That's a great plan! I'm not even gonna waste my time in college because I'm only interested in the liberal arts. However, make sure you don't crush your kids dreams too much. If they don't want to go into a STEM field or a trade, try to help them get an alternative plan together.
I think we should take the liberal arts out of college all together. When you think about it, nobody really cares about the arts. I mean nobody listens to music, watches T.V., movies etc., wears jewelry or fashionable clothes, goes to museums or to the theater, nobody really reads books for fun anymore. (if they can read or write at all)I believe it is time to get rid of all the library's as well because who would really want to work there to help you look for those books? Also, I think all the history teachers just need to find other more productive jobs because we don't need to know our history....we just need to know where we are going...and the pictures in those books that we like to teach out of...those medical illustrations...who would want to waste their time illustrating or even taking those pictures? By the way, who needs the news, who cares what's going on in the world? I think everyone should go into other fields making the liberal arts obsolete, then we call live happily ever after doing the things we all truly love to do.
I joined the military and earned a Master's degree in a useful field from an accredited university. Both the undergraduate and graduate degree were covered completely. You can earn a higher without loans.
Currently struggling with my student loan debt. Haven't even paid a cent back. Worst part is as a graduate, you get hired, and when you get hired, you dont earn enough. Living Cheque to cheque.
For those who go to medical school: Do not fall into this trap, you could find yourself still with student loan debt when you are 50. Avoid the temptation to adopt a Doctor Lifestyle. Live frugally. Continue this into residency, if at all possible start making student loan payments as soon as possible. As soon as you land your first " real doctor job" resist the urge to elevate your lifestyle. People will bombard you with contacts for realtors, financial advisors. Ignore this and continue a modest lifestyle. I did this, paid off my med school loans within 18 months. It was well worth the sacrifices made AND these frugal habits helped me to really appreciate those lifestyle upgrades when I could truly afford them. I have never regretted becoming debt free.
at 20:32 as of now he is NOT asking for a 700 billion bail out, it is NOW a 1.5 trillion bail out. If we forgive student loans, it would in fact encourage next wave of young people to get into even more student loans thinking tax payer would eventually bail him out. University will charge even MORE tuition. If you really want to fix the problem, I propose the following Put a cap on how much a school is allowed to charge student for tuition and room and board (like 20K/year), if a private school insist on charging more for tuition, then simply disqualify the student loan program for that university, "Meaning student attending that university will NOT be qualified to get a federal loan, and the student would have to get a private loan. And Private loans can be dismissed thru bankruptcy. But Many many student would NOT qualify for private loan. This would mean the student would have NO way of paying for tuition and would have to drop out and go to a different university.
Number one thing to be emphasized. Student loans are very easy to get, VERY. Why? Because they are not eligible for bankruptcy discharge. If you fail to comprehend that and the possible implications and risk, you are not suitable for college.
If you don't want to pay it back don't sign the papers. It's their fault. You should be more educated especially if you are going to college. People and businesses just don't lend money out for free
I remember wanting to go to school at Ross medical. Long story short I was sitting in front of the loan officer and they needed my signature for a $18,000 loan which felt ludicrous to me. Said screw it and got a job as a hvac tech making $10 more an hour then I would in that feild. Zero debt too. Always options, and trust your gut
who knew that staying at my job at costco would benefit me more than going to college? i make a pretty good living as a floor manager, and i have 0 student debt. seeing friends with massive amounts of student loan debt just amazes me. although, i do wish i did go to college only for the experience and to be able to learn as much as i could. i didn't think it would be like this for so many. sad though how much shit one has to go through just for wanting to learn. knowledge should be free.
what I got from a college education: smoke pot, learn about corrupt history of united states, alcoholism, perspective about analytics and aesthetics, $30k debt, dishwashing job, disillusionment of society, appreciation for classic literature, diagnosed with asperger's syndrome, learn of forgery and interpolation of christian mythology, newspaper delivery job across 20 mile radius from 2am-6am, gained 60 lbs.
I was a Bio major with the hopes of getting into Medical school. While in school, I had a nervous breakdown and had to take a break, due to family and personal issues. I had taken out loans during this time, because the grants didn't cover my cost. I had gotten so stressed out, and had been working to help myself and my mom, at a job that paid shite wages for shite work. I tried so hard, but ultimately it didn't work out. I have about 20,000$ that I owe and you know what? I'm done. I'm tired of being scared. I'm tired of caring. I'm currently applying to a free, accredited program in my city (NYC) that offers training in the field I'm interested in (tech and computer science). I also study computer science and programming on my own via the internet. I told myself, the government can take my money, and my paychecks, but they can NOT take my soul.
As soon as the federal government stops giving school loans, the prices of tuition will go down. If they keep doing it, the prices of tuition will keep rising.
No you weren't. You signed documents that spelled everything out in clear terms. You either did not read the documents, or chose to ignore what you read.
I empathize with these people but they signed a contract. No one forced them. You should not take out a loan unless you repay and expect me to bail you out.
Life in default, life in garnishment, life in low wage jobs......these are the consequences of student loans that universities don't talk about anymore
I am about to commit suicide because I literally have no chance at a retirement because I made the decision to go college to impress my now dead father. I lost my home and everything in 2008 and had to drop out of my 4th year in college as I was homeless. Before college I had over 80k in equity in my home and my banker told me instead of getting a home equity loan I should just get student loans that have no interest while in school then when I finish my 4 years I ca. sell my home to get the equity out to pay off all the student loans. That was the entire plan until the housing market collapse destroyed me and turned me into a government debt slave for the rest of my life as I have no degree because I became homeless and needed to work to survive. Everyone has a different set of circumstances. Republicans believe in human suffering and slavery because they went to school 30+ years ago when it was easily affordable or they got scholarships for sports or had wealth parents that paid the majority of costs. In America we treat student loan debtors worse then criminals and the government does not give a fuck.
I havent taken a single loan in my life except for borrowing and lending to friends, but that has no intrest obviously and is in small amounts you can pay back in a few days. i don't understand why people choose to take big loans they won't be able to pay back in a short amount of time. Living a life where you don't have to worry about debt is so relaxing i would urge anyone else not to spend money on useless things they don't need and end up in debt because of it, for example taking out a mortgage, lending money to buy a new car and things like that. If you want to buy something nice then save up money for it, don't spend money you don't have with intrest attached.
***** Well, anyone with a job that can sustain themselves shouldnt need to take a loan ever, it's just greed that makes you want a new car, a nice house, all the new computers and mobile phones and so forth. only buy what you can afford and your life will become alot better. I'm 21 today and i got a nice car from the 90's that runs like clockwork, i have a small house on the country side and most of the things i need, but i havent taken a single loan in my life except from family and close friends. Also i don't have a fancy job or anything, i make around 2500 dollars a month which is slightly below average wages were i live.
Nope. They offer a GI bill. It will fund up to $50,000 after you serve. You have to maintain a 3.2 or 3.5 GPA as well or they don't back it. If you go to school then join you SOL.
dsimondublin With the G.I. Bill, you have to be a full-time at least 12 hours. The second part about maintain 3.2 GPA is for the TA also known as Tuition Assistance. However if you do not maintain your grades, you would have to pay that money back to the government.
Basically what I said. I posted as a 3.2-3.5 yea you obviously have to be full time as well. Yea had a couple friends that did not make the grades and had to pay back the $$. Kinda of a good deal and bad deal. If you commit to school it's covered, if not don't bother.
IF YOU GET YOU STUDENT LOAN FORGIVE YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE OBTAIN ANY ADDITIONAL LOAN FOR ANYTHING. HOME, BUSINESS, ETC. YOU ARE NOT A RESPONSIBLE PERSON. MOSTLY YOU MAY BE A STUPID PERSON. IT IS NOT THE BANKS. GOING TO COLLEGE IS A PERSONAL CHOICE. YOU CHOSE THAT.
my dad always said "dont follow the herd into the slaughter". i got accepted into Ucla right out of high school but when i saw the prices, i just went to a community college and became a plumber im 22 now best decision ever.
Plumbers can make very good money.
My wife went ucla and got job at boston consulting out of college due to ucla connections, ,made $90k upon graduation in 2011, best decision ever. College is good if you know what you are getting out of it.
Right now she's making over $250k a year, all because of UCLA
Nice move.
Brilliant !!... I have a high school diploma, dropped out of college after seeing what it would cost. Luckily I graduated from a vocational highschool, became an electrician and I make $80k a year ( no college degree, no loans) I'm not bragging, just saying that all the trade jobs that people look down at are the ones who are having the last laugh. Sad situation though
@@mecca3000 Sounds great, i'm sure people looked down on you too when you dropped out, and maybe still do, but you did the right thing for yourself, and as long as it helps you, it does not matter what they think. Guess what, ironically those same people might call you and need you when they have a black out and they give you a really expensive check while they are making ends meet paying back their six figure loan debt. Looks like you'll be laughing all the way to the bank, (figuratively speaking). Congratulations.
Paid off my $32k in SL in 2 years! FEELS GOOD! :D Thanks Dave Ramsey!
how?
Worked 2 extra jobs and had no life for 2 years. Lived on nothing and sold a bunch of stuff. It sounds rough but was actually a fun adventure. It wasn't a get rich quick scam, it was work and budget. Say no a lot to you're friends, get off social media. Most people will make fun of you but towards the end they look at you like a hero and that you did something they wish they could do... Which they can they just won't sacrifice to win
+BryceJohnson88 thanks for the insight
No problem bud! Don't listen to these whiners on this documentary. You're not a victim, you're the hero of this story. Go put on the cape and get to work! :)
+BryceJohnson88 i will have 44k in student federal loans and 15k in private loans. I have saved up a good 12k in my savings. By the end of next year I will a good 10k also in my savings. I just hate of all that money going away to pay off my loans. I would rather put that money as a downpayment on an apt. :/
My Needs: food, shelter, love of kids/spouse. Nothing else matters. We will all turn to dust and none of this will matter. I never went to college. I owe for our home. I drive an old paid for car. We buy mostly used. I used to be obsessed about money and stuff. I'm 32 and pretty much happy with my life. My advice; nothing is worth stressing out about.
Brandon_Githens
I'm still learning this!
Brandon_Githens What if I want to go to college and medical school to become a neurosurgeon and save lives? Will that turn to dust and not matter?
Jenny Ramdeo Don't take out a loan.
Dionysian Conqueror yeah I know I'm trying my hardest to get as many scholarships and grants I can get
Jenny Ramdeo Well, good luck with it. I hope you make it.
Secret to no loan debt... My story: Worked for an employer that offered tuition reimbursement. Worked full time, went to school part time. Graduated engineering and chemistry at age 29. No debt. Had a 6-figure job in corporate America for years. My wife and I have 8 children. 6 went to college, 1 in college, one is 13 years old. Wife stayed home, homeshooled our kids. I could afford to have a wife at home and raise 8 kids because I could afford it. Lived in a modest home. No new cars. My kids went to community college for 2 years, then the University of Washington, if they wished, for two years. One got a masters degree out of state, had a scholarship, but I still paid a difference. If you want to go from high school to a 4-year out-of-state University you will get crushed, and more so if you want a masters degree. If the goal is an education that you can use to make a living, then go to a community college where the teachers care about you, and go to a state university for the last two years, live at home (my kids did), and then work your butt off. None of my kids have any college debt. You can do it beloved, you can do it! Avoid debt like the plague! If you are getting ready for school, please heed my words. If you already have a load of debt, don't cry, but get into a Dave Ramsey program. It is your responsibility. The system is rigged against you. Government is the problem. They created this. They will not fix it. Take charge of your life and climb out of the hole the government convinced you to get in to.
Bob Jordan great story
They really don’t teach no one this in high school luckily I had a debt avoidance mentality and went to community college for two years then to a state university, all of which was a 15 minute train ride away, lived with my parents and worked full time while I was in community college while going to school full time, currently getting my masters (no student debt) and I have a job offer from an internship for a pretty good salary for someone my age (22), community college was definitely the best decision I ever made so far in my life.
Glad it worked out for you but in all honesty EFF corporate America. If you’re banking on corporate America to save you or stability you’ve got it all wrong!
@@Essays4College Small companies do this to, not just mega corporations... Said nothing about banking on corporate America saving me, chill out dude and pay your loans off...
NEVER... BORROW... MONEY... FOR... ANYTHING!!!! If you don't have the money, you can't buy/get it.
You must like hanging out at the unemployment office telling all the people who go in, "Hey, get a job... *snicker*... "
@@Knaeben Not even a remotely close analogy.
True-I could never Afford to go to college; so I didn't go.
@@Knaeben Why would I hang out at the unemployment office when I'm busy with my job and my own life? Also, what does the unemployment office have to do with borrowing money? Are people so pathetic that they truly believe certain jobs are beneath them? If anything, they are beneath such jobs and will remain beneath them until they understand.
LETS STOP GOING TO UNIVERSITIES UNTIL TUITION IS LOWERED !!!!!
tuition strike!!!
A college degree doesn't always mean you will get a good job.
YES. Or you will get hire.
And there you have it.
Contrary to popular belief, you do not need to go to school to learn most things. Aside from basic reading, writing and math, you can learn almost everything else online.
+AmandaNerdBot totally true in 2015, but imagine 20 years ago....
+AmandaNerdBot I agree, but not for everyone. Some people require structure, because they don't have the self motivation to learn on their own. Additionally, in school, you're forced to learn a whole variety of subjects, which potentially facilitates you in discovering something that you had no idea you were interested in. That being said, it's still not worth taking out a student loan, putting yourself into serious debt, only to graduate without a job.
+AmandaNerdBot Online? Don't make me laugh. People will need to really hone their critical thinking skills! I have a curriculum for that!
+Mo Simons how is that my problem, if people cant get motivated on their own?
AmandaNerdBot heart surgery too?
The moral of the story is: Avoid excessive student loans at all costs.
the moral of the story: don't go to school period
Seriously? I wish I never went to school in the first place! What an awesome attitude considering your login is College Admissions Review! The colleges did little to nothing to ensure we truly understood what we were getting into because they wanted the money! Give me a break!
Learn that most debt is dischargeable in a bankruptcy except student loans. If people can't comprehend that risk then they are unsuitable to attend university.
Or have a rich family. I remember my roommates dad coming to the school and dropping 20 grand on his schooling a couple times a year. That kid never had an issue.
I worked in high school, during college and ended up with $10k in loans when I graduated. That was in 1998 - when a four year degree was about $40k. I can't imagine do the same now with the cost of education.
Just by listening to some of their voices, you could feel the sense of hopelessness. Lucky for me, I worked while going to college and took out few student loans. My current balance is $1,900 and will be debt free soon. Good luck to all!
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NEVER.TAKE.FREE.MONEY.
+Ozzie Solo borrowed money isn't free money.
+Daniel Purdy even worse.
Your State grants are free
Yeah okay tell that to a first year college student who did nothing but work at McDonald's with no clue about student loans.
No such thing as free
I get so tired of the arguments, “just don’t go to college”, “get a STEM degree”, “work to pay your tuition” or lastly, “know what you sign before you sign”. When my generation(I’m 30) was coming through HS we were taught that if you got a college degree you would earn enough to live a good life. The whole damn world pushes college down your throat, I’m the only college graduate in my family. When you’re 17/18 you don’t know the details surrounding student loans, all you know is you want to go to college to make a better life for yourself.
Get a stem degree from the cheapest community or state college near you. Ace it. Get a job right after college... Work your way to the top product companies.
17/18 years old able to calculate percentages. It is not right that loans are given so irresponsibly, however it is not right to take a loan if you don't understand that you have to pay it back. How is it possible to be mentally alert enough to be able to attend college and in the same time un-able to do basic mats?
Please do a strict budget, get a second job if needed, pay back your debt and start building your wealth.
You can do it. Complaining may not help you, however creating a plan of your future and working towards it will change your life.
Yeah, you're right. At 17/18 you don't know the details surrounding student loans.
But your parents do. Think about that for a minute.
@@themissingtile2828 The parents knowledge only important if they are involved and participate in borrowing the money. The student loans given to the students directly?
@One Man I would not even call if fault, I would call it irresponsible, irrational behaviour.
One solution is to make financial education a requirement in our schools. In my 20+ years of being a "good student" in "good schools", I was required to learn a lot of subjects, including philosophy, kinesiology, and religion, but no one taught me about promissory notes, mortgages, taxes, and other things that impact quality of life.
Do you know that our children are graduating high school without even being taught how to email? In 2014.
exactly this. In my high school, I was supposed to learn all the bullshit, like what the 95 theses were in history, why chaucer wrote a 500 page book, etc etc, and write 3 pages of useless papers.
Instead of teaching us practical, real life skills we can use even during high school, like accounting, importance of debt management, how to trade stocks (to make $ on the side), etc.
I took economics in high school. We monitored stocks and did mock investments. I learned about student loan debt. Maybe that is why I took out under $15,000 for both degrees. I officially had it paid off 6 years after I got my Master's degree. So they do offer these classes. In fact in Maryland I think Economics is mandatory for graduation.
That's because it's not something you should be taught, it should be common knowledge, I understood all the basics of these topics as a young child.
They don't want kids to understand this stuff. The system wants them to end up in debt. The us public school system (for the most part) does not produce adults prepared for life and capable of critical thinking.
The gentleman Nick looks so depressed. My heart goes out to him. Im also burdened by student loans
I didn't go to college because my family was poor. Now these people expect me as a tax payer to pay for their education. My son graduated with a BS and Masters Degree in math with zero college loans. He worked his way through school. The people in this video should have done the same.
J. Fadness
Hey I agree, but at the same time not everybody thought to do this. It just didn't come to mind to them. But it DEFINETELY would have benefitted them if it came to mind to them!
I got 80% of my tuition paid for, and worked 3 jobs in school. I still needed to take out student loans. I had no financial help from parents in anyway. The first four years after college went well. Then I was disabled for 6 years (meaning officially disabled receiving SSDI which only enough to cover basic survival). Upon recovery my loans were doubled. I went to graduate school with almost full scholarship, I paid a couple grand out of pocket, no loans. When I graduated in 2008, good luck finding employment. I worked with the disabled but they cut funding and lost those jobs. I worked independently selling things on eBay since then which was subsistence income. My loans are now tripled. During the time I was not officially disabled, I still have a disability which means I worked around it the best I could.
There are so many problems with the student loan system. The biggest problem is the loans are a Wall Street product. There is very little incentive to change the system or forgive loans or restore bankruptcy protection.
Another problem is young people with certain talents and career goals have been told over and over "it will all be worth it".
The students and the American citizens takes all the risks. Banks, Wall Street, and the schools take NO risks. It is guaranteed for THEM.
There are much better ways to make schools affordable. Scrapping the student loan system all together would be good.
In the EU the schools remain affordable. A degree there at most will cost approximately 10,000. Private schools are also affordable at most 30,000 and what they do is take the money out of your income for ten years if you are making a certain amount. It is different than loans with high percentage rates that can't be discharged.
The current system is immoral. And 18 year olds are being suckered into a product that often does not do them well and is riskier than they tell you for many. This is predatory lending.
A millionaire Trump can have his businesses declare bankruptcy 4 times. But students can't declare bankruptcy at all. This is deplorable.
J. Fadness
When shit hits the fan for you, don’t bother begging for sympathy.
I have an idea..Why is bankruptcy perfectly legal to relieve corporations and corporate scam artists of debt but not college grads who can't get a job in this awful economy? If there is no means of ridding student loan debt for college grads that don't have a cent to their name then why not just leave the U.S. and move to another country?
This is actually a legitimate question that I have. What if I just left the country permanently and went to live somewhere else? My parents are from another country and I have lots of family there as well as citizenship through my parents. It is a wonderful place to live and I could have a really nice life there. No one else is tied to my debt here in the US and I could always just come to visit as I am a citizen here too. I am seriously considering this option.
The debt would just continue to grow.it will never go away. If u are a citizen u are required to file taxes on foreign debt. There's people that have tried it. Just be careful on what kind of income u make in the other country. Also make sure u don't have a co signer on ur debt or they will go after the co signer first.
I meant foreign income
Because student loans aren't backed up by anything, unlike other loans.
Cause your politicians just need you when is voting time, and they need the finnancing and corporation groups for the rest of the time. So they suck their cocks, get their money, in return they give them special treatment and and laws to favor does groups and forget about your ass.
Did that helped explain it to you?
It's like playing the lottery. Good thing I knew better than to play.
Ray Davis Haa smart
College graduates still earn more on average than people with no college education.
"The social engeneers have done a brilliant job enslaving the masses." Next comes the 5G grid to make sure people comply with the system. Those who fall will be put in the private jail system. Welcome to Oswald's Brave New World.
No, you have a miniscule chance of winning the lottery, but you can choose a more in-demand degree to pursue that greatly increase your chances of getting a decent-paying job after graduation that has a solid future.
lol
I joined the navy specifically to get the Gi Bill. It sucked a lot of the times, but I got out and went to school in California for free and got a huge living stipend every month. Just graduated and make $96k now debt free. Best decision I ever made was to join the military.
I'm making $1,000 a week working 14 hour days, 5 days a week, with no college degree, no student loan debt, and I'm actually building my credit up. I work my ass off, I enjoy my job and I don't have to worry about collection companies calling me up EVERY day, wanting to know where their money is. So to money hungry colleges, universities and loan companies, NO THANK YOU. You're not pulling me into your financial traps, especially with no guaranteed jobs out there.
What job do you do?
Your supposed to be encouraging people not rubbing it in about how good your situation is goodbye..
Only in american will you bail out a bank and corpations but not people hope your proud of your self's
Girl yes those idiot voters are! They keep voting for the people who keep is financially enslaved to be able to nationalize their losses and privatize their earnings& gains+ to get bailouts whenever they want to. If these voting idiots are receiving a higher education who can tell by the way the idiots constantly& repeatedly vote against themselves⁉
xr7fan ... Vicky has zero clue
@@lovebiannca That's what you get when you vote for Republicans and Democrats.
The banks mostly paid that money back with interest, the US Government made money off of TARP. These people just want a straight-up blank check. There's a big difference.
YUP
My Pell grant, state need based scholarship, working and a budget allowed me to graduate debt free, I repeated this for grad school - I saw folks spend like mad while in school on shopping, trips, luxury apartments, eating out daily, and nice cars.
I knew a girl who was paying out of state rate, using loans to fund school and really wanted to stay in school another year to be with their friends... like not even thinking of getting their first job out of school and living in the area or critically thinking about the $ they have to pay back.
No debt forgiveness without people owning their choices. It should be examined like bankruptcy court.
I could not afford college. My high school required acceptance into college in order to graduate and promised students that if we graduated college we would be rewarded with high paying jobs. My parents cosigned my private loans because they bought into the idea that if I had a degree then I would never have to work the dirty jobs that they had to work for their whole lives. My college professors even promised students that we would have high paying jobs after graduation. Where are those jobs?
people nowadays need to be more financially responsible. please do us all a favor and don't go to college if it will cost you 20,000 a year.
+Russell Lee Unless you can pay for it yourself.
try to choose a degree you know will make u money like something In Healthcare or Computers.. gosh, students in Truck Drivers schools are better than some of these poor kids. Stay within your State to avoid out of state fees and stay with MA instead of those overpriced dorms.
try to choose a degree you know will make u money like something In Healthcare or Computers.. gosh, students in Truck Drivers schools are better than some of these poor kids. Stay within your State to avoid out of state fees and stay with MA instead of those overpriced dorms.
Pink Pearls trur that i was a mechanic at 19-21 the police at 21 nd now im 25 as a truck driver fuel tanker nd im loving it $85k per year now bought a 2016 mustang nd 2017 kawasaki ninja
If it were really that simple, no one would do any of this, but unfortunately your comment is just a pipe dream versus reality. It’s not that simple. People still go to college and that still and admirable quality but our times are changing. People need to be better educated on the pros and cons, that’s how it changes.
Next time you get yourself into a commitment and sign on the dotted line, read the contract and understand what your getting into. Most people just want to get the car, the house, go to college, and they never read what they are getting into. If you don't understand it, get an attorney to interrupt it, or get someone who is knowledgeable to explain it.
When someone wants you to take a loan, or a contract they want something from you. Most of it isn't in your best interest.
I think you meant "interpret", not interrupt. In case anyone didn't get that.
Yep.
Ace1000ks1975 this right here is the best advice. You have to read your contracts and stipulations. Kids and eager people wanting to change their life for better is always admirable but you have to take the time to do the research and gain an understanding of what’s expected of you to fund an education. The rising of interest rates is the biggest culprit for why people can’t make payments. Interest makes everything worse about a loan. I believe most people would pay back their loans if interest wasn’t such a huge problem.
I rather not go to college than go in debt. I can go for a 2year degree in a community college and working to pay for classes till I graduate. The reason why people go in debt for education is more because of prestige
There are cheaper ways to go to school, these ppl did not do enough research. I were to Uni for one year and said yea, this is not for me and went to college and instead paid under 10k for 2 years for a tech job.
I suppose it's completely out of the question to educate parents and students during the high school years about debt, interest, and how to evaluate what level of debt might be appropriate in different circumstances.
Mike Worrell They should be educating themselves.
Mike Worrell
It is, because debt has no place in society.
this is sad, people go to college to better their lives and end up worse than the guy who dropped out in high school and now has a longer work history, and they now have to work next to him with their piece of paper that says they are ''smarter''. sad.
Reality is a bitch.
So true.
What is up with the slightly distorted audio?
It has been just over a year since I paid off my student loan. I felt like I could finally plan for the future - buy a home, have a family and save. My life on hold when I had this student loan over me. I feel for others who still have their loans over their heads and all I can say is not to give up and think of that light at the end of the tunnel.
Unite against unfair and unjust student loans! Unity is strength! Make your terms collectively!
Here's an idea and I'll try to say this calmly: DON'T BORROW SO MUCH DAMN MONEY TO GO TO SCHOOL! OMG, they're all shackled for the rest of their life.
here's another idea: we should reform the system that makes it that way. kids in other countries can go to college for much cheaper.
It's grievous to witness what BA (BS, etc.) & MA (MS, MLS., etc.) students today must endure for an university education. I'm 70 now, so I was a student of 1960s, beginning of 1970s univ. ed.. I paid such tiny tuition as undergrad at U. Mass. at Boston! Education was nearly free, really (& that was without scholarships, although I did have Vet benefits). At Kent State U., I went on on to MLS degree, still with Vet ben., aid & stipend. I worked in those years too but graduated debt free. Lucky!
Why do bankers who are fully financially literate get bailed out but students dont?
Maybe I shouldn't complain so much about my life anymore after watching this video.
This is what happens when you let corporations run the country.
Jay Bartgis
You must have a lot of debt then.
Nope. lol
Correct. The other developed countries look on in horror at US.
LabRat6619 yeah that explains why they're all immigrating to our country to go to school here.
+Jay Bartgis yeah and they can buy guns and shoot other uni students. You thinking your country is healthy only compounds the issue.
Sounds like a lot of folks are horrible with money!
Yeah. 18 year olds can be like that. 🙄
Sounds like you’re an ignorant fool who doesn’t understand jack about life.
So we shouldn't expect them to make sound financial decisions, but we're fine with them voting? You're an adult or you're a child. You don't get to mix and match.
Idiodyssey87 voting for measures, laws or political policies/figures has nothing to do with making “sound” financial decisions. Don’t mix and match the two together. What you believe to be a sound financial decision may not necessarily be the same to me. That’s all subjective. You might think buying a house is a good decision when I don’t feel the same at the moment in my life. Going to college and being able to make something of yourself in whatever you want to do is a good decision. Taking out loans and funding your education isn’t a bad or a good move. It has its traps and it’s problems but it can also have its benefits. Not all people who take out loans get to reap the benefits of funding an education. The world is rapidly changing. The job markets are changing, the economy is adjusting all the time. Nothing is consistent. Some people can make ends meet and make those payments even when they are getting screwed over. And trust me, any bank that lends you money is screwing you over because you pay it back with interest whether you want to or not. And that’s the issue at hand, interest accrues daily on a loan. Federal loans are easier to pay off because of the benefit of getting lower payments based on financial situation. Private Student loans are the biggest problem. They offer no assistance, and very little room to breath. This type of loan is a dangerous one. Not many people understand or know this because at the time of signing for the loan, you aren’t made aware of the problems with Private Loans. You don’t get told that if you need lower payments, you won’t get that assistance. The loan company can make your life a living hell even when you pay on time and in full. They want interest and sometimes they will raise your interest rates to a point where you can’t even make affordable payments anymore. So don’t make judgements at people who are only trying to live their life the best they can. It’s a huge injustice to people like you and me when these banks decide to take your money with tons of interest tacked on to an original amount. If you take out $10K with a private loan, you’ll most likely be paying double that because of interest rates. You can’t control it. It’s not possible. Most people are aware of this until they are forced to take out a private loan. Do you not understand that? Why is this such a difficult issue to understand? It’s not just lazy people not wanting to pay back their loans. If this is what you think you’re profoundly wrong.
I was 18 years old when I walked out of the financial aid office in tears when I was told it would cost me $5,000 a year in loans. I knew I did not have the money to pay that and my parents don’t have money either to pay up front. So I went to the school I did not like. Accepted my fate. Stop complaining! Can’t always blame others for your lack of judgement.
Dont get a worthless degree ie anything in Humanities or Liberal Arts. The only degrees worth getting are anything in the medical field and some science degrees. Other than this, college is toilet paper.
Every upper middle class happy vacation taking, muscle car driving, fancy dinners out having, discretionary income spending, 401 k filled person I know is in a trade. Electrician, fitter, plumber, steel worker etc.
Every down and out debt up to their ears, broken down prius driving, living with their parents well into their 30s, credit card maxed out, no retirement savings is someone who chased higher education along with studies abroad on some really useful humanities majors. At best, they get jobs at Starbucks. I tip em well
Let me add that, credit default swaps on student loans are work looking into
This is powerful man. I’ve screenshots this and sent it to my little cousins.
The hard part about getting into a trade is finding an apprenticeship. Especially for electrician.
Trade school isn't for everyone. We should reform the education system. A better world is possible.
Great video to teach students about the horrific problems student loans can do to thier credit.
There are many companies willing to pay some or all of your educational expenses. Find them & work there. My daughter worked at a hospital - they paid for her RTR (X-ray tech) degree. She now does CT scans at a children’s hospital & loves it.✌🏽😎🇺🇸
I am no genius, but I was never stupid enough to get myself in $50,000 of debt. I went to a Commnity College, and then a State university. I am about to finish my Master's degree with $11,000 of total student debt. I'll pay it off in 8 years. Why is this so hard for others to do?
I'm so sick of being told that if I did what I was told, I would come out of college making a living, but instead, I am working part-time and living off of my Dad in a rented room at age 26. I graduated from Vanderbilt University in Biology, and I have basically chosen to go teach English in South Korea for $20,000 a year. I hope to learn their language and find a TRUE job in a REAL moving economy. The future lies not in our grandpa's USA.
these are the kids of the parents who signed for subprime mortgages what did you think was going to happen ?
there obviously needs to be far more economics discussion in high school and a break down on what jobs pay what. clueless people
the problem is we were the first generation where we were told from an early age that we have to go to college.
@@pingpongwigwom4790 LOL... why did you listen?
As a lawyer myself, I struggle to understand how you attend law school without researching the average income of attorneys in the private and public sector (big difference) in your area. Being a lawyer does not automatically equal being rich. Far from it.
14:08 -> This is basically debt slavery. This is the same mechanism, through which human traffickers(=modern day slavers) control their victims. There is no difference.
+TheCrazyFinn It's worse than debt slavery.
the difference is u chose to get ur self in debt, these are grown adults who should research and think before they finance their education with loans
Freddy Garcia Yes research all the propaganda devised to lead you right into the trap so the corporate pigs can milk their cash cows for all they're worth. It's the American Nightmare.
+Soferia Nebruin not everybody should be going to college especially if they have to fiance thousands of dollars in loans that when they are done with school want to be forgiven from and not pay wat they owe
Freddy Garcia Right. Only the rich should a good education and the poor should stay poor...right.
So thankful when I went to University back in 81, you were only allowed to borrow a small portion of your tuition. The student was responsible to contribute if you applied for aid. They should never allow for people to borrow the whole amount for tuition. Now we're 1 trillion in debt due to Students borrowing excessive amounts.
I have no student loan and no Bachelor degree but and i have a 6 figure income because I'm hard headed and I worked hard to get the job I have now. At the end it is not a piece of paper it is the skills you earned in jobs over the years. My degree from Germany is compared to a associates degree here in US but all my supervisors I had in the past couple years tell me that this degree is worth much more than a bachelor degree from one of this worthless university's. Education is not a right it is a privilege and not everybody has the brain to go to a university but everybody can build up skills to get a good paying job if he or she wants.
I'm a senior in high school. Watching this made me nervous about going to college. I still wanna go to college, but don't wanna pay loans
+The Engie That Cried Nope become a plumber i made 27 dollars a hour at 22 or become a cop their are always open jobs for that
+The Engie That Cried Nope , pursue your interest. Nowadays, vocational college is the best. Learned skill than theory.
consider a community college, then transferring to a state College. Also consider working while in school. just some things to consider!
I'm amazed a lawyer was unaware that the interest would be accrued to the loan while in forbearance. Moral of the story is be very aware of what you sign for. No sympathy for anybody who does not bother to understand a contract they sign. Free money does not exist.
If you are successful. I see nothing wrong with paying the debt back. But most of these kids will never be successful
+天子 Because most should have never went to College. That is the root of the problem. We are always trying to regulate fairness and say everyone is entitled to everything. Its a lie and it will never work. You will hear people say things like..."well, I'm the first in my family to go to College". Ok, so that means they were all dummies? No, it means they couldn't afford it and didn't go. That mentality needs to come back.
+天子 The system is DESIGNED for lack of success, so don't blame "these kids!" The system is called "the matrix" for very good reasons.
Soferia Nebruin I agree there were powers to be behind all this. When I saw the bankruptcy laws being changed (lobbied) and they were leaving student loans off the books I knew the fix was in. But you can't tell people these things. But then again the forces are so strong out there. Everyday these people are getting hit with "college or beggar" from every angle. Its tough to rise above that.
SeanP7195
I definitely agree. (Traditional) College does not educate us for the workforce or TODAY! It only educates us for the workforce of the past!
SeanP7195 It also indicates they probably didn't go because it wasn't the best choice for them either.
I never went to College because I never consider myself has a smart person and plus I never have money to go anyway so after High School I started to work at the McDonald with my first job than I leave and find another job that pay $15 per hour (currently employed) and I been working for 8 years now and save about 40 thousand dollars on saving account in case something happen to my current job (layoff, closed down). I think about my future because I know that if peoples around me disappear I will be alone but at least I got the expanded money to support myself in case shit go wrong.
And yet, you don't consider yourself a smart person?
FireMinstrel I am sorry but I don't think I am smart as you can see how I type my sentences (grammar errors). That why I don't have motivation to go to Community College even if I want to. Now peoples think I'm a loser that never have College education. I don't want to waste my money something that I can't achieve in other word I am afraid to fail and wasted my time. That why I just continue to keep on working and put away at least $100 on my saving account when paycheck come on Thursday, $50 dollar on checking (depend on the situation), and $30 dollar pocket money for a week the rest I save it up to pay bill on monthly rent, phone,car insurance, utilities, etc I wish I live for free LMAO. But anyway that why I don't consider myself "smart" because I never went to College. I am not saying all College are smart but at least they have a College Degree to show for and make peoples around them proud and I don't (peoples keep saying I should go to College) and I feel like a total loser :(.
Kiko Montes
You need to get yourself into a trade school and learn welding or electrical work you can make 15-20 easy for like 4 grand and less than a year of schooling.
Charles Hart
I worked at a insulation company for two years to save up for a trade school learning how to pipe weld for a year(about $7,000) and now I have a job making 28 an hour working 12 hour days repairing boiler tubes at power plants. Easily bringing in 70k + a year with no debt and no one to take care of but myself.
Bruce R. Cool man good to hear I went to college and it was a good experience and I do have a minimal amount of debt but, I wish someone would of sat me down to weigh the alternatives. Right now I am learning welding part time outside of work and its enjoyable because you are making something. Best part about it is that there is always a need.
listen, I went into the bank to get a credit card and when they saw I was a student, they told me I needed a loan. I refused because I didn't need it at the time and I knew from other people that those people are looking for commissions and don't give a crap about you or what you need. Keep your debt as low as you can or you'll be another slave to the banks.
Putting more money into K-12 public education does NOT help!!
ticks4ticks4 Abolishing public education would help.
What is think we should do with lower education (K-12) is make more vocational training programs integrated into high schools. That way, more students will more easily get the job skills they actually need for careers of today!
My accounting degree in Australia totals up to $25k in total in Australia. You Americans get ripped off but that doesn't matter with all the knowledge you gathered in college Start business and some money.
AMEN! They want to be taken care of, thinking that an 'elite' degree will pave their road in life with gold, but it won't. They want to basically be taken care of and not lift a single finger or take a real risk.
zeppo shemp Yes, prestige does matter. My brother's employer only hires Notre Dame graduates.
Your only half ass right with your opinions people
The Nuharoo right wing bs
zeppo shemp your only half ass right with your opinion
Blessed to have my student loans forgiven!!!
Never blame others for your problems. The greatest form of maturity is accepting full responsibility. If you say that you didn't know that a Bachelors of Arts is worthless, that's your fault. Ignorance is not bliss.
+reardelt apparently a bachelors in accounting and IT is also worthless, even when graduating with honors, since i cannot get a job in the field i got my degree in. btw, YOU will be paying for my tuition bill through increased taxes, not me, since i have no job with which to pay. next time, create an economy that allows people to get a job with decent wages instead of trying to whore all the money to yourself. im waiting for the masses of this country to refuse to repay the 1.3 trillion dollars of student loan debt, and thus crash the economy and your precious country along with it. you dont want to be compassionate? why should we?
So many bitter people. Take some responsibility for your life. You signed up for that debt, you pay it back.
My life is a nightmare from student loans.... I think about killing myself everyday because I'm sick of going to work for absolutely no reason... My debt is going to kill me one way or another
If you ever need someone to talk, search my name on Facebook.
You are not alone man. There's a ton of people in the same situation as you.
Never give up, never give in
Awww, life didn't turn out the way you wanted it to. I had to work through crap jobs. I still took certifications and tried to broaden my knowledge. I attended workshops. This is the problem with youth nowadays, they want everything handed to them. If it doesn't work for you, expect someone else to do it for you and/or quit. You signed on the dotted line. You made that decision.
They didn't give enough information for you to be so judge mental. Maybe they are working a crap job or two of them. Maybe they worked very hard in school and couldn't find a job in their field. The possibilities are endless what they have done and still didn't make it. The system we've put in place is hurting a lot of people who did what they were supposed to. Give people a break, it's not every single persons fault if they are suffering.
How do you graduate with a degree in law and not understand compounding interest? I can see why you are having trouble finding employment. I find it pretty ridiculous that you can somehow graduate with a college degree in anything and still be financially illiterate.
Compounding interest is a phrase in accounting or finance.
The answer to student loan crisis would be to allow bankruptcy this would make tuition reasonable and affordable
I thought they signed the loan papers before they got their degrees.
@@gregorymorris8343 That would actually raise tuition because more people would be willing to take on the risk. The only way to bring tuition down is to introduce new competition that is more affordable. The ONLY way universities will reduce tuition is if those seats become empty and they need to fill them.
Synapse2k I think it would actually lower tuition costs if you could declare bankruptcy on it. Lenders would be more discerning about who they actually give loans to. If more people would be ineligible for the loans, tuition would have to go down in order for schools to stay in business. I guess we’ll never know which scenario is right because they will never allow that to happen.
I've taken a vow to never take out a loan in my life because I knew from get that they were a rip off. I will never loan money in order to get an education, it either has to come out of the money I already have at my disposal or from scholarships.
Same!!! I’m about to work 2 jobs but I’ll work myself to the bone and be near death before ever take out a lone THEY ARE A SCAM
If you don't have the money or the means of making the money, don't take out a loan.
Part 2: My Professor is pressuring me to take out a loan & continue school. Apart of me says it's importance to discipline myself further. I feel there's so much to learn about art, so I'm not done. But the other part of me feel that these professors purposely want students to fall into debt because in many ways, they seem to work with the system. Personal reasons get into the way of me receiving a regular job, & my mother & step-dad are trying to support the household the best they can.
I came from a single parent household, and payed my own way thrugh a small cheep local college. I got no help from my parents, just paid my own way by working part time while in college and working on fishing boats during the summer. It can be done debt free... Just don't expect to go to a really expensive school.
Part 1: I'm currently a community college student who majors in Graphic Design & will soon receive my A.A.. FASFA covers my tuition. Despite my skills being great & having this confidence that I'll become a very successful artist in the future, the road is becoming harder for me. I recently found out that GD is one of the worst jobs to have in this recession. It's becoming increasingly competitive and the demand is very high: a B.A. or higher is now required.
How did these people not pay the interest that was accruing all those years? They knew there would be interest and didn't care. Now they cry.
Between my wife and I we paid off $60k of loans in less than one year. Listen to Dave Ramsey and follow his advice and live well below your means while you pay off your debts. It can be done it's just a matter of doing it.
Dave Ramsey used bankruptcy to pay 💰 off his debts!
Some of these guys need to share a room or move back in with their parents if they are unable to afford the rent. Having your own place is luxury.
Do any people think of working and saving up first and go to school?
I live in Japan and parents and family try hard to save up money for kids' college. Many kids start working part-time job around 16 if parents don't have enough financial supports, so they can prepare for school. If they still don't have enough, then they don't go to college first, but work firt untill they can save up enough. Also, while they work, they might get more better idea about whether they need to go to college or what they want and need to learn at college.
I left school at 17 because I was poor (doing well now). I don't want your debt paid off with my tax. You should pay for your mistakes and let me pay for my own life.
Theirs always a second job after college. Deliver pizza 20 hrs a week and 1000$ extra a month. Sometimes the work does not end after we graduate
Cassidy Mcdonald I do roughly. 10 an hr plus non taxed tips. Average 15 an hr x 20 = 300 - taxes. It's more than 1000 take home.
Eril Arioristanto so does your punctuation
Emily Pittman awww a pizza 🍕 girl
Wow! Where I live you only would get minimum wage, $8.35 an hr., to deliver pizza. And you'd have to work 50 - 60 hrs a week + tips to make $1000 a month after taxes! Must be nice!
What about their “right” to a “social life”??
This video was very interesting but dang did you record the audio with a tennis ball?
Parents must talk to their kids. I graduated 10 years ago with my BA. I taught for 5 years at Title 1 school. I taught SPED. I got both my degrees for $14,082. I made 6 years of payments after I got my Master's degree. The Teacher Loan Forgiveness plan forgave the remaining balance on my loans. I have 3 kids I'm saving for college for. I ONLY plan on sending them to trade school. I would ONLY pay for a 4 year degree in a STEM, Finance, Business, Medical, Forensic Science, Dental, OT, or Speech degree. I'm NOT paying for a crappy and or artisty degree. Those jobs don't exist! #FACTS
this is what america has come to...if feel bad for your kids...let them do for themselves and follow their own dreams...wherever it takes them...teach them to be frugal and to live simply...my parents never paid for my education...I had to work for everything...don't limit them with your money.
Stacy Jackson I grew up with nothing! Was in fostercare! I want my kids to achieve more then I did! My husband's an immigrate came from El Salvador. Money is a fact of LIFE. Choosing a crappy major my kids would have to work to pay for that. If they choose a trade like plumbing, electrician, mechanic, etc... I would be happy! Or like I said a STEMM job. College isn't the time to find yourself or to mind your mission in life. Hard decidons and detailed planning are needed for life. Being broke in debt and living with your parents is not the way to go in LIFE. And I definitely have shown my kids how to live frugally shop at Walmart, coupons, cook food at home, take hand me down clothes and shoes. If I buy shoes I goto Payless with a 15% coupon. I'm trying to build wealth. You might not know but its a huge wealth gap in America not just between the 99% and the 1%, but all among the different racial groups. The average Hispanics family has 10% the wealth as the average White family. So being happy and all is good but will continue my family being broke and venerable in LIFE!
well it sounds like you have it all figured out....I wish all happiness...in which ever way you choose it....I truly do.
That's a great plan! I'm not even gonna waste my time in college because I'm only interested in the liberal arts. However, make sure you don't crush your kids dreams too much. If they don't want to go into a STEM field or a trade, try to help them get an alternative plan together.
I think we should take the liberal arts out of college all together. When you think about it, nobody really cares about the arts. I mean nobody listens to music, watches T.V., movies etc., wears jewelry or fashionable clothes, goes to museums or to the theater, nobody really reads books for fun anymore. (if they can read or write at all)I believe it is time to get rid of all the library's as well because who would really want to work there to help you look for those books? Also, I think all the history teachers just need to find other more productive jobs because we don't need to know our history....we just need to know where we are going...and the pictures in those books that we like to teach out of...those medical illustrations...who would want to waste their time illustrating or even taking those pictures? By the way, who needs the news, who cares what's going on in the world? I think everyone should go into other fields making the liberal arts obsolete, then we call live happily ever after doing the things we all truly love to do.
I joined the military and earned a Master's degree in a useful field from an accredited university. Both the undergraduate and graduate degree were covered completely.
You can earn a higher without loans.
Currently struggling with my student loan debt. Haven't even paid a cent back. Worst part is as a graduate, you get hired, and when you get hired, you dont earn enough. Living Cheque to cheque.
Tahila Mntambo
So if student loans are forgiven then since I don't have a student loan then can I have my home loan forgiven?
For those who go to medical school: Do not fall into this trap, you could find yourself still with student loan debt when you are 50.
Avoid the temptation to adopt a Doctor Lifestyle. Live frugally. Continue this into residency, if at all possible start making student loan payments as soon as possible.
As soon as you land your first " real doctor job" resist the urge to elevate your lifestyle. People will bombard you with contacts for realtors, financial advisors. Ignore this and continue a modest lifestyle.
I did this, paid off my med school loans within 18 months.
It was well worth the sacrifices made AND these frugal habits helped me to really appreciate those lifestyle upgrades when I could truly afford them. I have never regretted becoming debt free.
9 years later and...
Good job done by Support4America team Well Done!!!!!
at 20:32 as of now he is NOT asking for a 700 billion bail out, it is NOW a 1.5 trillion bail out. If we forgive student loans, it would in fact encourage next wave of young people to get into even more student loans thinking tax payer would eventually bail him out. University will charge even MORE tuition.
If you really want to fix the problem, I propose the following
Put a cap on how much a school is allowed to charge student for tuition and room and board (like 20K/year), if a private school insist on charging more for tuition, then simply disqualify the student loan program for that university, "Meaning student attending that university will NOT be qualified to get a federal loan, and the student would have to get a private loan. And Private loans can be dismissed thru bankruptcy. But Many many student would NOT qualify for private loan. This would mean the student would have NO way of paying for tuition and would have to drop out and go to a different university.
Number one thing to be emphasized. Student loans are very easy to get, VERY. Why? Because they are not eligible for bankruptcy discharge. If you fail to comprehend that and the possible implications and risk, you are not suitable for college.
If you don't want to pay it back don't sign the papers. It's their fault. You should be more educated especially if you are going to college. People and businesses just don't lend money out for free
I remember wanting to go to school at Ross medical. Long story short I was sitting in front of the loan officer and they needed my signature for a $18,000 loan which felt ludicrous to me.
Said screw it and got a job as a hvac tech making $10 more an hour then I would in that feild. Zero debt too.
Always options, and trust your gut
who knew that staying at my job at costco would benefit me more than going to college? i make a pretty good living as a floor manager, and i have 0 student debt. seeing friends with massive amounts of student loan debt just amazes me. although, i do wish i did go to college only for the experience and to be able to learn as much as i could. i didn't think it would be like this for so many. sad though how much shit one has to go through just for wanting to learn. knowledge should be free.
what I got from a college education: smoke pot, learn about corrupt history of united states, alcoholism, perspective about analytics and aesthetics, $30k debt, dishwashing job, disillusionment of society, appreciation for classic literature, diagnosed with asperger's syndrome, learn of forgery and interpolation of christian mythology, newspaper delivery job across 20 mile radius from 2am-6am, gained 60 lbs.
Pell grants only pay for books? Pell grants are like $5500!!!! What books are you buying?
Education is a RIGHT... because we say so!
I was a Bio major with the hopes of getting into Medical school. While in school, I had a nervous breakdown and had to take a break, due to family and personal issues. I had taken out loans during this time, because the grants didn't cover my cost. I had gotten so stressed out, and had been working to help myself and my mom, at a job that paid shite wages for shite work. I tried so hard, but ultimately it didn't work out. I have about 20,000$ that I owe and you know what? I'm done. I'm tired of being scared. I'm tired of caring. I'm currently applying to a free, accredited program in my city (NYC) that offers training in the field I'm interested in (tech and computer science). I also study computer science and programming on my own via the internet. I told myself, the government can take my money, and my paychecks, but they can NOT take my soul.
As soon as the federal government stops giving school loans, the prices of tuition will go down. If they keep doing it, the prices of tuition will keep rising.
The problem lays in the interest system..
No. The problem lays in people being fucking retarded.
+Jay Bartgis yes!!! Thats right!! Who goes to nyu for a music or televison degree !!
We were all lied to and are stuck living this nightmare.
No you weren't. You signed documents that spelled everything out in clear terms. You either did not read the documents, or chose to ignore what you read.
I empathize with these people but they signed a contract. No one forced them. You should not take out a loan unless you repay and expect me to bail you out.
Life in default, life in garnishment, life in low wage jobs......these are the consequences of student loans that universities don't talk about anymore
I am about to commit suicide because I literally have no chance at a retirement because I made the decision to go college to impress my now dead father. I lost my home and everything in 2008 and had to drop out of my 4th year in college as I was homeless. Before college I had over 80k in equity in my home and my banker told me instead of getting a home equity loan I should just get student loans that have no interest while in school then when I finish my 4 years I ca. sell my home to get the equity out to pay off all the student loans. That was the entire plan until the housing market collapse destroyed me and turned me into a government debt slave for the rest of my life as I have no degree because I became homeless and needed to work to survive. Everyone has a different set of circumstances. Republicans believe in human suffering and slavery because they went to school 30+ years ago when it was easily affordable or they got scholarships for sports or had wealth parents that paid the majority of costs. In America we treat student loan debtors worse then criminals and the government does not give a fuck.
Absolutely ridiculous the cost of education is so out of hand. Truth be told your often better off to avoid student loans and just get a job.
Oh c'mon! $1,000.00 month for rent?? Well, that's one big problem! Also, "I didn't know what forbearance meant..." --Uhh well figure it out! Duh!
1000$ in NY is an apartment with no windows . This isn’t Kentucky
face2much TEACH! Some people are just so ignorant of the cost of living in MANY cities in the US.
I havent taken a single loan in my life except for borrowing and lending to friends, but that has no intrest obviously and is in small amounts you can pay back in a few days. i don't understand why people choose to take big loans they won't be able to pay back in a short amount of time.
Living a life where you don't have to worry about debt is so relaxing i would urge anyone else not to spend money on useless things they don't need and end up in debt because of it, for example taking out a mortgage, lending money to buy a new car and things like that. If you want to buy something nice then save up money for it, don't spend money you don't have with intrest attached.
***** Well, anyone with a job that can sustain themselves shouldnt need to take a loan ever, it's just greed that makes you want a new car, a nice house, all the new computers and mobile phones and so forth. only buy what you can afford and your life will become alot better.
I'm 21 today and i got a nice car from the 90's that runs like clockwork, i have a small house on the country side and most of the things i need, but i havent taken a single loan in my life except from family and close friends.
Also i don't have a fancy job or anything, i make around 2500 dollars a month which is slightly below average wages were i live.
There's always the military. As far as I know they do student loan forgiveness if you get it in your contract when you enlist.
Nope. They offer a GI bill. It will fund up to $50,000 after you serve. You have to maintain a 3.2 or 3.5 GPA as well or they don't back it. If you go to school then join you SOL.
dsimondublin With the G.I. Bill, you have to be a full-time at least 12 hours. The second part about maintain 3.2 GPA is for the TA also known as Tuition Assistance. However if you do not maintain your grades, you would have to pay that money back to the government.
Basically what I said. I posted as a 3.2-3.5 yea you obviously have to be full time as well. Yea had a couple friends that did not make the grades and had to pay back the $$. Kinda of a good deal and bad deal. If you commit to school it's covered, if not don't bother.
Yes when I was married to first husband (military) he got Bachelors free, paid by government. He did 20 years and retired now.
Sure, it's great if you make it out alive, without PTSD or if you're a woman, if you don't get sexually assaulted.
IF YOU GET YOU STUDENT LOAN FORGIVE YOU SHOULD NOT BE ABLE OBTAIN ANY ADDITIONAL LOAN FOR ANYTHING. HOME, BUSINESS, ETC. YOU ARE NOT A RESPONSIBLE PERSON. MOSTLY YOU MAY BE A STUPID PERSON. IT IS NOT THE BANKS. GOING TO COLLEGE IS A PERSONAL CHOICE. YOU CHOSE THAT.