Clips of Italian Macchi C200 and Macchi c202 fighters in Libya and Egypt, 1941-42 Fiat G-50s are in the large formation flyby. Sound slightly out of sync after utube upload.
It is totally obvious to all of the admirers of the WW2 fighters,, that all of the Macchi series had not only a superb aerodinamical design and nice looks, but also the an awesome performance. The designer, senor Mario Castoldi was a genius. For sure. Viva la Italia.!!!
Winkle Brown, the famous test pilot, flew one. Though he praised the 202 as a dog fighter, it was under armed and had an unreliable engine. The 205 was sufficiently armed and the best Italian fighter of the war. The Luftwaffe was interested in it. When they seized Italian airfields in September 1943, they used and attached some 205s to JG 53. Search on google for the images.
The Macchi C.202 "Folgore" had this really aggressive yet elegant lines with its such long nose and the cockpit so set behind the fuselage, it was just plain beautiful. It has been praised by almost all the Italian pilots who flew it and by the rare British pilots who tested it. Too bad for the bad armament and the low numbers of plane produced. Nice video btw!
Il macchi MC 202 è secondo me sottovalutato nei giochi d'azione di aerei nella WWII, fortunatamanete fa la sua comparsa in IL 2 sturmovik, ed è il mio caccia preferito!!
From what I read these planes were regarded as superior in performance to the Spitfire, Hurricane, and the P-40. It's only downside was its weak armament as it only (2) Breda-SAFAT 12.7mm Machine Guns and (2) Breda-SAFAT 7.7 mm Machine Guns. If it had 20mm cannons instead it would have been a very deadly and formidable fighter in the wars early stages of the war.
I'm re-discovering the Italian Air Force(I want to join it, XD). I'm glad to notice that Italians kicked asses, though most people here think that the Royal Air Force(Regia Aeronatica, lol) wasn't a match for the Allies. Videos like this one make me proud, really :) BTW, I wrote a comment on Masser's post at the end of the page :)
This was because ignorant teachers didn't know history or worst because communist teachers wanted to clean history undervaluing actions by Italian army.
The Luftwaffe gun camera footage has been shown many times in Battle of Britain documentaries etc. This clip is 5 years old, before youtube allowed high res video, I'm sure a better quality clip of that particular plane is on here somewhere. The Hurricane has certain distinct features that make it unique when viewed from behind, the thick airfoil, the cant of the landing gear, and the large tyres facing inward; this is most certainly a Hurricane at 2:12.
I do know the Regia Aeronautica used gun cameras; I have seen some guncam footage of MC200's strafing in North Africa, it gives you a look at how inadequate only 2-12.7mm mgs are when moving at high speed and a short time on target, compared to say, P-47s with 8-50. cal.
I´ve read that the Folgore was the best-handling machine equipped with a DB601-engine. More agile and easier on the pilot than the Me-109. Only the firepower was weaker with no cannons.
Late models had 2x 7.7mm (.30cal) in the wings, but it still lacked the firepower of its Allied contemporaries, for example the P40E with 6-.50cals plus 1500lb of bombs.
Actually, Folgore is a rare word for "Thunderbolt". We commonly use "Fulmine". And Veltro shouldn't translated...though it is a small and agile dog used for hunting, "Il Veltro" was an important man prophetized by Dante in his Divina Commedia. We still don't know who he was refering to.
I think the Veltro was well-matched with the Spit Mk.IX. Most publications list higher speeds for the Spit, however, i think the Veltro would at least match the Spit's agility, if not surpass it. I'm guessing that fighting a Veltro would be like flying against a Bf109G2 that could turn like a late-war Spitfire (a lame comparison, i know!). So at some altitude bands where the DB engine gave better performance than did the Merlin, the Spit would be in some trouble.
Good point i can see how you came to that conclusion, but the chances of it being anything except British or Italian are very slim. Dont forget, the Italians attacked northern British costal ports quite heavily during the Battle of Britain whilst on the side of the axis, and also took part in the Malta campaign in which the main defence of the island at the start was Hurricanes.
"Uhm, how do you know it?.." Do you think this video somehow magically materialized out of thin air? I edited the clips and created the sound from scratch. I know exactly where the footage came from and when and where it was filmed. That's how "Uhm" I know it.
It looks like an MC200. I doubt it being british, the fuselage is too fat for a spitfire or hurricane. Maybe i am wrong and its just the low resolution is blending part of the wings with the fuselage making it seems that way but also it looks like the prop and engine housing is that of the MC202 being somewhat wider than the front end of the fuselage.
Were they ever fitted with browning machine guns late into the war when they moved over to the allies? or was that just a test that never proved effective enough
WRONG!!!!! The Hurricane is EXTENDING his undercarriage. You can see it plain as day, at the beginning of the clip, the gear is RETRACTED. I know my WWII a/c; you need to learn yours. 2:34
yeah i'll definitely agree on the undercarriage, that's the biggest clue. Nonetheless still a great upload of a surprisingly widely unknown hero of the war
Uhm, how do you know it? It might have been shot down by a MC-200 or MC-202. I can't be sure of it, but...it's probable. The MC-202s could easily handle Hurricanes while the MC-200 performed well against them.
I Macchi dal 202 al 205 erano dei bei aeroplani e potevano reggere il confronto con quelli anglo americani, peccato siano arrivati troppo tardi ed erano insufficientemente armati.
Eh? Italian propaganda video were, sometimes, made using parts of German videos. I have already seen that part of the footage elsewhere(in a German video). I have seen the same kill of a Russian plane in both an Italian and a German video.
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Watched this again and the engine sounds are superb. One of the best I've ever heard.
It is totally obvious to all of the admirers of the WW2 fighters,, that all of the Macchi series had not only a superb aerodinamical design and nice looks, but also the an awesome performance. The designer, senor Mario Castoldi was a genius. For sure. Viva la Italia.!!!
viva
And an Alfa engine? My 63 Juiletta is jealous.
Winkle Brown, the famous test pilot, flew one. Though he praised the 202 as a dog fighter, it was under armed and had an unreliable engine. The 205 was sufficiently armed and the best Italian fighter of the war. The Luftwaffe was interested in it. When they seized Italian airfields in September 1943, they used and attached some 205s to JG 53. Search on google for the images.
oneilluminatus When fitted with a German motor
@@conradlau7415 His report wasn't concerned with the engine. He talked about its manoeuvrability
The macchi c202 and c205 are my favorite planes/fighters, just beautifull desing!
Folgore along with Veltro are two of my favorite WWII aircraft!
What a beautiful aircraft, well regarded by all who flew it, and flew against it.
One of the best sounds in the world. Forza Italia!
Fantastic footage truly great planes! Thanks! Bob 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
The Folgore is such a sexy plane, isn't it?
The Macchi C.202 "Folgore" had this really aggressive yet elegant lines with its such long nose and the cockpit so set behind the fuselage, it was just plain beautiful. It has been praised by almost all the Italian pilots who flew it and by the rare British pilots who tested it. Too bad for the bad armament and the low numbers of plane produced. Nice video btw!
This is a great fighter
gli eroi non anno politica sempre onore a loro da che parte anno combattuto non importa restano sempre eroi
Il concetto è giusto, ma Cristo l'h va messa con hanno
lovely italien world war 2 fighter planes 😊😊
MARESCIALLO pilota Lino Lagi
caduto nei cieli di Malta durante la ww2 per l'Italia con un Macchi 202 ONORE
Onore
Onore ad esso sacrificatosi nei cieli di Malta
Il macchi MC 202 è secondo me sottovalutato nei giochi d'azione di aerei nella WWII, fortunatamanete fa la sua comparsa in IL 2 sturmovik, ed è il mio caccia preferito!!
From what I read these planes were regarded as superior in performance to the Spitfire, Hurricane, and the P-40. It's only downside was its weak armament as it only (2) Breda-SAFAT 12.7mm Machine Guns and (2) Breda-SAFAT 7.7 mm Machine Guns. If it had 20mm cannons instead it would have been a very deadly and formidable fighter in the wars early stages of the war.
Superior to p-40 and hurricane, not spitfire. 34 C.202s were downed to only 4 spits lost in malta
Great video with correct sound of aircraft. Too short though. Thanks for posting.
Great video!!! Wonderful!!!!
The C.205 in my humble opinion is a
thing of beauty. If i win the lottery, i will order a brand new one. XD
I'm re-discovering the Italian Air Force(I want to join it, XD). I'm glad to notice that Italians kicked asses, though most people here think that the Royal Air Force(Regia Aeronatica, lol) wasn't a match for the Allies. Videos like this one make me proud, really :)
BTW, I wrote a comment on Masser's post at the end of the page :)
This was because ignorant teachers didn't know history or worst because communist teachers wanted to clean history undervaluing actions by Italian army.
The Luftwaffe gun camera footage has been shown many times in Battle of Britain documentaries etc. This clip is 5 years old, before youtube allowed high res video, I'm sure a better quality clip of that particular plane is on here somewhere. The Hurricane has certain distinct features that make it unique when viewed from behind, the thick airfoil, the cant of the landing gear, and the large tyres facing inward; this is most certainly a Hurricane at 2:12.
This video is truely a great find! May many more follow!
Cool, thanks
Loved the shots filmed on board that fighter during the take off of the 202s
I do know the Regia Aeronautica used gun cameras; I have seen some guncam footage of MC200's strafing in North Africa, it gives you a look at how inadequate only 2-12.7mm mgs are when moving at high speed and a short time on target, compared to say, P-47s with 8-50. cal.
I´ve read that the Folgore was the best-handling machine equipped with a DB601-engine. More agile and easier on the pilot than the Me-109. Only the firepower was weaker with no cannons.
My god, I had shivers. The Veltro was probably the best fighter of the 2nd WW
gorgeous planes! Viva l'Italia !
Great film!!! And the sound looks autentic and of a verry high quality ;)
absolutely astonishing! Thanks for sharing friend
beautiful
Fantastico
these two planes only had 2 machine guns, the Veltro and the Centauro where armed to the bone but there where so few of them made
Mc 202 Folgore... amazing aircraft! ✈️🇮🇹👍🏻
Great to see "footage" of Italian fighter aircraft
very cool!
Never seen before but good looking Aircraft
Late models had 2x 7.7mm (.30cal) in the wings, but it still lacked the firepower of its Allied contemporaries, for example the P40E with 6-.50cals plus 1500lb of bombs.
Awesome 'tough-arse' *_SAVAGE!_*
Actually, Folgore is a rare word for "Thunderbolt". We commonly use "Fulmine". And Veltro shouldn't translated...though it is a small and agile dog used for hunting, "Il Veltro" was an important man prophetized by Dante in his Divina Commedia. We still don't know who he was refering to.
Cangrande della Scala is the most probable
Hey could i use this footage for a youtube vid?
That is interesting,aelabbar. Do you live in Benghazi?
I think the Veltro was well-matched with the Spit Mk.IX. Most publications list higher speeds for the Spit, however, i think the Veltro would at least match the Spit's agility, if not surpass it. I'm guessing that fighting a Veltro would be like flying against a Bf109G2 that could turn like a late-war Spitfire (a lame comparison, i know!). So at some altitude bands where the DB engine gave better performance than did the Merlin, the Spit would be in some trouble.
No, Spitfire V
They are absolutely heros!
It's most definitely a Hawker Hurricane; probably from Battle of Britain era Luftwaffe gun camera films.
Di che anno è il filmato
Good point i can see how you came to that conclusion, but the chances of it being anything except British or Italian are very slim. Dont forget, the Italians attacked northern British costal ports quite heavily during the Battle of Britain whilst on the side of the axis, and also took part in the Malta campaign in which the main defence of the island at the start was Hurricanes.
No it's a M.C.200, it's similar to the zero, but they worked to different fronts.
A 15 years old video of an 80 years old footage, man time passes too fast or what?
"Uhm, how do you know it?.."
Do you think this video somehow magically
materialized out of thin air?
I edited the clips and created the
sound from scratch.
I know exactly where the footage
came from and when and where it was filmed.
That's how "Uhm" I know it.
It looks like an MC200. I doubt it being british, the fuselage is too fat for a spitfire or hurricane. Maybe i am wrong and its just the low resolution is blending part of the wings with the fuselage making it seems that way but also it looks like the prop and engine housing is that of the MC202 being somewhat wider than the front end of the fuselage.
So were they any good? Used on the easter front? and the med?
avevo uno zio pilota di caccia col macchi c 200 abattuto due volte riammesso al voloe declassato agli alianti per l'occupazione di Malta
How was he shot down? By AAA or fighters?
prop and engine housing is that of the MC200 sorry*
Were they ever fitted with browning machine guns late into the war when they moved over to the allies? or was that just a test that never proved effective enough
why were they turning a crank in the beginning o the vid??
WRONG!!!!!
The Hurricane is EXTENDING his undercarriage.
You can see it plain as day, at the beginning of the clip, the gear is RETRACTED.
I know my WWII a/c; you need to learn yours.
2:34
forza
yeah i'll definitely agree on the undercarriage, that's the biggest clue. Nonetheless still a great upload of a surprisingly widely unknown hero of the war
anyone know what is the plane being attacked?
Uhm, how do you know it? It might have been shot down by a MC-200 or MC-202. I can't be sure of it, but...it's probable. The MC-202s could easily handle Hurricanes while the MC-200 performed well against them.
I Macchi dal 202 al 205 erano dei bei aeroplani e potevano reggere il confronto con quelli anglo americani, peccato siano arrivati troppo tardi ed erano insufficientemente armati.
mc200 is not very attractive of a plane but mc202 is sleek and sexy!
Why it should be Greek mr PeterJamesRye??????
th-cam.com/video/V16GJAUVTRk/w-d-xo.html is original tape. Your copy is sound of Cessna 172.
a great plane, limited by a weak engine and the 12,7 mm Breda - SAFAT mgs
Mc 202 era molto migliore del 200!
Eh?
Italian propaganda video were, sometimes, made using parts of German videos. I have already seen that part of the footage elsewhere(in a German video). I have seen the same kill of a Russian plane in both an Italian and a German video.
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There's no action, it was a propaganda movie. Italian planes didn't wear gun camera. You'll find memory about pilots' actions only reading books.
And you can trust them?
Superb air dinamic design
Mediocre engine
Terrible weaponry
Terrible is your comment not the plane
Your face terrible!
Are you sure that we are speaking about the same aircraft?
Spagnolo?bhe
Disse colui che viveva in un paese che usava i fiat cr32 fino al 1954
@@Francesco46833 Non sono spagnolo :)
E il mio paese usava già caccia monoplani nel 1939 mentre l'Italia usava ancora CR32...
il sonoro è tutto un fake... preferivo una musichetta....
What a great video and thanks for posting it.