i mean, in the lore, the song requires quite a bit of intelligence to use properly.... so by removing the song, youre basically removing the need to be smart, which is what silentheart does... let me cook
i did some silentheart testing yesterday, found out that flow state has random other buffs for random moves for all weapon types. Examples: - medium mayhem doing double posture damage - heavy mayhem doing 30% more posture damage - light rising star doing more posture - medium relentless doing double posture - heavy relentless doing double posture - some moves get bonus damage if you use them with flow state, some are as little as like 10 extra damage, and some do half a bar more 💀 - medium rising star becomes unreactable in flow state - heavy rising star becomes unreactable in flow state like flow state was meant to be a skill intensive mechanic right? you use it and time it correctly for a reward (stronger move), but the way it is now is just you spam flow state, get the buff on every move and have 0 downside if you mess up the timing. side notes: - medium mayhem is the buggiest move in the entire game, it will randomly: go through block, spine cutter and do 3x posture damage for 0 reason???? (also has the fattest hitbox in the entire game) - stone works on all silentheart moves, allowing for even MORE posture damage (as well as ardour which STACKS with stone) - if this wasnt already obvious due to the stone thing, all silentheart moves proc enchants, meaning you can run some cancer like unbidden and steal ether on all silentheart moves LOL
Devs telling us they nerfed silentheart damage only to add it into flow state is crazy 😭😭 seems like some devs really prefer turning their brain off when playing . . .
I love Sh and personally I want them to make flow state a skill intensive mechanic as I actually enjoy clicking it at the right timing but the cd in to short and it lasts to long
@duality633 mediocre swing speed and mediocre range. The weapon isn't bad, it's balanced. 30 pen isn't crazy when literally every no mantra build has RA. You can also predict when they're gonna crit, because the 3 m1 critical is so dogshit that they always critical after 1-2 m1s
@@Leejohnas do you just expect me to not get hit? I’m not a godseeker dummy the crit is busted as hell if you miss a single parry you lose atleast a third of a bar
old silentheart: some abilities but became better and rewarded you for being aggressive and landing uppercuts and crits new silentheart: 0 ether mantras with passives
That’s like saying about jetstriker “ remember all the people saying it was bad for pvp lmaoooo “ like there’s a difference between pre rework and post rework silentheart
but as more people use it over and over again, we will simply adapt to it as it becomes the norm, meaning it will just be another thing to not really care about at the end of the day
I mean soulthorn is the only weapon that require you to hit someone to activate the crit so its good weapon with balanced downside if you play too passive
bro someone needs to cut ur wifi , that's litertly the point of using flow state , don't tryna gut silentheart even further its just gonna make it unplayable fr , the damage is ALREADY gutted
Seeing peoples call me brain dead while all I did was wait for them to attack and counter with dodge cancel behind them into m1 for spine cutter (for only 10% of dmg) be like Like man I don't even know why a guy call my build stupid and unfair cause the three stacks soulthorn deal 2 bars on him, when I tested it on a guy with 300 hp it deals like only 12% Also the crit of Soulthorn is extremely easy to deal with AS LONG AS you're not making any dumb moves such as dodging or rolling for no reason , or spamming attacks why the Soulthorn user is out of range. 9:31 As seen as this here, the crit is so easy to parry and punish if you're not making any mistake and that the Soulthorn user is an idiot ALSO, ragdolling a soulthorn user, *removes all stacks they got*, I don't know why no one talk about that.
@@KalebisaVillainmost op? Nah Soulthorn is ass compared to god tier meta weapon. If you can't parry the final crit you're ultimately skill issue I am not lying all you got to do is eat 25% of the crit then parry it will cancel the first and second have the same timing as mace and heavy guardbreak crit
bro its insanely predictable just hold F and its also predictable when they use the uppercut whats dumb tho is that u cant tell if theyre gonna use mayhem or relentless hunt
Hot take; silentheart shouldnt have access to venting solely because they do not have access to ether. How can you have 0 ether mantras with 0.2s windups that cannot be predicted or cancelled while also being able to mash a combo escape for if you DO mess up somehow
Nogo, one thing u can abuse w silentheart is get a Solar weapon, steal all their tempo and use passive to switch back to any other weapon and boom now its even easier to win bc they dont have vent
if anything should be glad silent heart tech moves dont gaurd break bc they only got m1s simple 1m to parry and annoying tech move to do other then m1 completely does not guard break
the thing is you can play the exact same way without silentheart but can actually do something if the other person knows how to fight it idk much ab lht sh since i havent used it so i wont comment on that but both med & hvy sh is horrible med silentheart is quick & does good dmg but god damn i cant even count how many times ive been hit(or hit someone else) in the middle of both the air attack & roll attack the moves are pretty good for their speed but the dmg is way lower than my m1 dmg(both seem to be about half my m1 dmg) but you genuinely should not be able to get hit in the middle of the teleport from the air attack and the middle of the slash from the roll attack(just make it like verse 1 revenge) and hvy isnt any better the roll attack never hits bc of slow it is & has a solid chunk of endlag after landing im pretty sure the dmg is solid but it doesnt matter bc it never hits, the uppercut attack is straight up just worse round spark skyshatter kick?? it does less dmg & has a way smaller hitbox with about the same posture dmg & windup & also you cant slide with it like you can with skyshatter theres no reason to go this instead of just shrining 80 or 90 str & the air attack has the same problem as med but it happens less often with hvy at least(though it somehow does less dmg than the med one???) edit: oh yeah and hitting spine cutter with hvy sh is borderline impossible(if not straight up impossible) without the roll attack being on cd
I would give my soul to satan just to have old silenheart come back new silenheart is even more brain dead then the old one and it RUINED pve build i'm literally crying rn
basically makes your moves unreactable, without flow state silentheart is kinda bad. you need to just spam flow state whenever you use a move and ur good
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i mean, in the lore, the song requires quite a bit of intelligence to use properly.... so by removing the song, youre basically removing the need to be smart, which is what silentheart does... let me cook
Hear him out guys, it's lore accurate
Guys, being braindead IS a part of the lore, like cmon listen to him.
I'm all ears gng..
Your on to something 🤔
deepwoken players canonically don't shower
binding flow state to your m1 makes it look like you're having an epileptic seizure
i did some silentheart testing yesterday, found out that flow state has random other buffs for random moves for all weapon types. Examples:
- medium mayhem doing double posture damage
- heavy mayhem doing 30% more posture damage
- light rising star doing more posture
- medium relentless doing double posture
- heavy relentless doing double posture
- some moves get bonus damage if you use them with flow state, some are as little as like 10 extra damage, and some do half a bar more 💀
- medium rising star becomes unreactable in flow state
- heavy rising star becomes unreactable in flow state
like flow state was meant to be a skill intensive mechanic right? you use it and time it correctly for a reward (stronger move), but the way it is now is just you spam flow state, get the buff on every move and have 0 downside if you mess up the timing.
side notes:
- medium mayhem is the buggiest move in the entire game, it will randomly: go through block, spine cutter and do 3x posture damage for 0 reason???? (also has the fattest hitbox in the entire game)
- stone works on all silentheart moves, allowing for even MORE posture damage (as well as ardour which STACKS with stone)
- if this wasnt already obvious due to the stone thing, all silentheart moves proc enchants, meaning you can run some cancer like unbidden and steal ether on all silentheart moves LOL
Devs telling us they nerfed silentheart damage only to add it into flow state is crazy 😭😭 seems like some devs really prefer turning their brain off when playing . . .
I love Sh and personally I want them to make flow state a skill intensive mechanic as I actually enjoy clicking it at the right timing but the cd in to short and it lasts to long
NO POINT TO THE DAMN GAME OR NUTHIN STEWPIT GAME XDD
gimme tldr i aint readin allat
@@KlasConny rot consumes
I dont think the hyper-buffed moves are worth the perpetual migraine that using Flow State on every m1 gives you, but to each his own I suppose...
fr i actually got a headache from watching this vid
Mashing sh moves that require no ether is so fire 🔥
I mean, they cant complain about spam mage builds anymore, at least...
Ah yes soulthorn the “YOU MUST FLAWLESS OR YOUR GETTING A BAR PER CRIT” weapon you go right next to deepspindle for my least favorite weapons to fight
The 3 m1 crit sucks, the 1-2 m1 crit is pretty easy to dodge and the dmg on the weapon is stupid low. It's stats r terrible.
if the 3 m1 crit is doing a bar to you just wipe all ur builds
@@Leejohnas 30% PEN, 30% chip. If you think it has terrible stats youre just doing the wrong build.
@duality633 mediocre swing speed and mediocre range. The weapon isn't bad, it's balanced. 30 pen isn't crazy when literally every no mantra build has RA. You can also predict when they're gonna crit, because the 3 m1 critical is so dogshit that they always critical after 1-2 m1s
@@Leejohnas do you just expect me to not get hit? I’m not a godseeker dummy the crit is busted as hell if you miss a single parry you lose atleast a third of a bar
I recently suffered from a stroke and silent heart is perfect for me
silentheart halberd when 🦵
old silentheart: some abilities but became better and rewarded you for being aggressive and landing uppercuts and crits
new silentheart: 0 ether mantras with passives
200ms mantras dont forget
old silentheart: a garbage uppercut and a shitty gimmick people could just wait out
new silentheart:DLC combat system
I mean these are not mantras but yes you are right.
@@duality633 they practically are, unless you wanna say talent with crazy offensive opportunities but thats just weird
Deepwoken trying to come up with good game design (too hard, release the weekly slop)
so silentheart plays like mage, but instead of numbers its m1? yea deep balancing is cooked 😭
Well well well… 0:48
we dont talk about the celling bird
nogo makes us deaf for 25 minute straight to prove a point
I mean, silentheart is basically a main characters oath because you can get it from the ship everything started from
Real
Well, the Beloved Sofia is different from the Scoundrels Bounty. But I think they both look the same, probably the same model or smth lol
0:49 feed the bird nogo
remember all the people saying "SILENTHEART TAKES SKILL NOW STOP CRYING!!!"
That’s like saying about jetstriker “ remember all the people saying it was bad for pvp lmaoooo “ like there’s a difference between pre rework and post rework silentheart
they nerfing salt alchemist because 5 people were winning against aga but not silentheart free dmg
Jump Aga with whatever you want nerfed and your wishes will be heard
@@cycy8699 facts
@@unlockmyfullpotentialsupap6577 also did they really 😭 what they nerf
Saltchemist def deserves nerfs
fighting saltchemist with 0 willpower is hell
but as more people use it over and over again, we will simply adapt to it as it becomes the norm, meaning it will just be another thing to not really care about at the end of the day
Old silentheart wasen't perfect but I feel like it was better than this
Nogo Try Not To Use Soulthorn Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
I mean soulthorn is the only weapon that require you to hit someone to activate the crit so its good weapon with balanced downside if you play too passive
@@DreamingBloodfiendthis aged rather poorly
@@prysm2735 it did not
@@DreamingBloodfiend theres another weapon that changes crits based off landing m1s
@@prysm2735 Nemesis don't count is a bloody enchant
i cant be the only one who heard the smoke alarm beeping 0:47
I HEARD IT
even yt clowning on him look at the end of the video link
well well well
oh god they're gonna put a cooldown on flow state now arent they
imo it should already have a cd but you can lower it everytime it lands a clean hit or smth at least
there should at least be some penalty for whiffing/more difficulty to proc it if this video is possible
Ngl just completely rework flowstate.
Not even Rogue Lineage's Blademaster was this braindead. Silentheart feels better to play as, but worse to play against now than before...
tf blademaster was way worse than this dudes could literally infinite stun you
Wouldn’t say all that
fighting somebody with blade master u gon die on sight nigga
Ong blademaster was 100000 times worse
Rogue lineage is braindead
The tinnitus oath is giving me hospital bills.
Was I the only one that actually tried to time flowstate 💀
This mf really thought deepwoken is skill based 🤣
No bro don’t worry I did the same thing 😭😭
didn’t know that until this video 💀
Nope, I'm here mate, hi
bro someone needs to cut ur wifi , that's litertly the point of using flow state , don't tryna gut silentheart even further its just gonna make it unplayable fr , the damage is ALREADY gutted
0:49 brown
I have no idea why they haven't fixed being able to crit movestack with mayhem
Make it so flow state doesn’t activate right away so people can’t spam it
dont nerf silentheart just buff every other oath
Your better off binding it too 1 cus sometimes u need slow moves for mixups
the combos and movestack u can do with sh makes it even more braindead 💀
4:51 bursting mid combo is diabolical
bro really said bursting instead of venting 😭
@@ermiassatheeskumar5578 bro really let all his pent up feelings get to him instead of venting and later took his life on December 4th 2036 😭💀
@@kadentroll6412what 😭
btw u can stack ur m1 into ur dash m1 :)
If i played silentheart like this i would play on mute icl
As a Night axe using silentheart who doesnt use flow state I say heavy is the worst weapon for sk the roll cancel move is hot garbage
not even chime can save you from the ceiling bird
Seeing peoples call me brain dead while all I did was wait for them to attack and counter with dodge cancel behind them into m1 for spine cutter (for only 10% of dmg) be like
Like man I don't even know why a guy call my build stupid and unfair cause the three stacks soulthorn deal 2 bars on him, when I tested it on a guy with 300 hp it deals like only 12%
Also the crit of Soulthorn is extremely easy to deal with AS LONG AS you're not making any dumb moves such as dodging or rolling for no reason , or spamming attacks why the Soulthorn user is out of range.
9:31 As seen as this here, the crit is so easy to parry and punish if you're not making any mistake and that the Soulthorn user is an idiot
ALSO, ragdolling a soulthorn user, *removes all stacks they got*, I don't know why no one talk about that.
Mfs will ask u for a 1v1 then pull up with a silentheart build
nerfed TODAY!
its like nogos fire alarm never got fixed ❤️
been sayin tis since day 1 delete silentheart
Tell me you can't even parry shi, dawg silent heart gotta be easy to predict.
This videos speed has been altered
lets go! soulthorn and silentheart nerf this friday.. omg
wait chill on soulthorn
@@nogoyour free 1 bar sir
@@nogo most op weapon in the game next to railblade and spindle
@@KalebisaVillainmost op? Nah Soulthorn is ass compared to god tier meta weapon. If you can't parry the final crit you're ultimately skill issue I am not lying all you got to do is eat 25% of the crit then parry it will cancel the first and second have the same timing as mace and heavy guardbreak crit
@@nogo its literally braindead and op
Of course Martlet's theme on a blue bird
why nogo lowkey got the same drip on every build. (nothing wrong with it)
bro its insanely predictable just hold F and its also predictable when they use the uppercut
whats dumb tho is that u cant tell if theyre gonna use mayhem or relentless hunt
least obvious silentheart
shouldnt have to be predicted
Truly aggressive playstyle
bro just realized soulthorn silentheart is meta
make flow state like a bad heretics sutra and make flow state noticeable to other players like it gives you a aura or something
close enough, welcome back low tier god
Hot take; silentheart shouldnt have access to venting solely because they do not have access to ether. How can you have 0 ether mantras with 0.2s windups that cannot be predicted or cancelled while also being able to mash a combo escape for if you DO mess up somehow
Doesn’t make any sense
bro just gave me a reason to quit the game again...
Bro bind his flow state into m2 button so he can spam more💀💀💀💀💀
this reminds me of old silenthearth for pve i litterually forgot how to fight mobs bc of it
Finally he submitted
Nogo, one thing u can abuse w silentheart is get a Solar weapon, steal all their tempo and use passive to switch back to any other weapon and boom now its even easier to win bc they dont have vent
interesting!
@@nogowjhats the hair id
free collapsed lung🤑
This video gave me tinnitus. Thank you Nogo.
You're welcome
@nogo what’s the hair ID
this is the reason why all the veterants of deepwoken quit the game
Ngl I got a mad headache watching u fight with that flow state on m1
Nogo ranting is so funny
Most busted oath with most busted wep
wasup dawg silentheart is truly the best thing ever
why is nobody talking about how soul thorn anims are bugged
do flow state need to be activated a little moment before using the move or just putting it on m1s work every times ?
And “Old silentheart is better”
13:04 lmao
bro is gonna get my build gutted 💔
Silentheart is so readable
Hey nogoat where u on a shadow hb build a couple hours ago n u fought a grimmjow cosplayer?
Soulthorn.
the depths of 312 elo
@nogo put ardour scream on m1 and now u will get buffs for doing nothing, true braindead playstyle
i tried that but u cant
@@nogo :(
did someone count how many times the flow state sound has played?
104
slide the hair combo bro 😭
WHY DO I HEAR APPREHENSION
praying on my downfall
Been doing this since it came out it’s free elo
my head hurts ding ding ding ding ding
if anything should be glad silent heart tech moves dont gaurd break bc they only got m1s simple 1m to parry and annoying tech move to do other then m1 completely does not guard break
the thing is you can play the exact same way without silentheart but can actually do something if the other person knows how to fight it
idk much ab lht sh since i havent used it so i wont comment on that but both med & hvy sh is horrible
med silentheart is quick & does good dmg but god damn i cant even count how many times ive been hit(or hit someone else) in the middle of both the air attack & roll attack the moves are pretty good for their speed but the dmg is way lower than my m1 dmg(both seem to be about half my m1 dmg) but you genuinely should not be able to get hit in the middle of the teleport from the air attack and the middle of the slash from the roll attack(just make it like verse 1 revenge)
and hvy isnt any better the roll attack never hits bc of slow it is & has a solid chunk of endlag after landing im pretty sure the dmg is solid but it doesnt matter bc it never hits, the uppercut attack is straight up just worse round spark skyshatter kick?? it does less dmg & has a way smaller hitbox with about the same posture dmg & windup & also you cant slide with it like you can with skyshatter theres no reason to go this instead of just shrining 80 or 90 str & the air attack has the same problem as med but it happens less often with hvy at least(though it somehow does less dmg than the med one???)
edit: oh yeah and hitting spine cutter with hvy sh is borderline impossible(if not straight up impossible) without the roll attack being on cd
I predict bro will lose no matches on slient heart
last three letters on this videos link is crazy
the way ur moving ur camera around with the flow state is gonna give me stage 8 cancer
How do I make this build with front or vesperian so I don’t mess up the stats?
you fought aga in chime on that build and lost
tinnitus flaw
Hair id pls Nogo
another k1 classic
I would give my soul to satan just to have old silenheart come back new silenheart is even more brain dead then the old one and it RUINED pve build i'm literally crying rn
Bro saying more brain dead like old silentheart wasn't just a straight downgrade from attunementless 💀
nah nerf saltchemist guys it's top 1
Shovel knight soundtrack
insane
whats the haircombo on the build
Do voidspires even work in chime?
so like what does flow state do again to make this braindead
basically makes your moves unreactable, without flow state silentheart is kinda bad. you need to just spam flow state whenever you use a move and ur good
how over react be like :
flash warning
revert silentheart rework
friday:
MANGOS MANGOS MANGOS MANGOS
how do you parry soulthorn crit?