Hindus are just soft. We act as if the Bhagavat Gita didn't literally take place on a battlefield. Of course anti Hindu people will use this to say we are violent by nature but at least Hindus need to understand it's okay to stand up for yourself. We have to start from the view point of vasudhaiva kutumbakam but understand the reality that not everyone else sees it that way.
totally true and worse most Hindus have used their cowardice as some sort of moral and spiritiual high ground to hide behind twisting the Gita and other Hindu text to cover themselves. Hinduism wouldnt be here if it werent for Hindu resistance via warfare like we see the Maharata Hindus destroy the Mughal empire in the 18th century because thats real Hinduism.
True. My brother following Sanadhana Dharma, Bharat is fortunately safe with BJP AND RSS. Christian and Hindu girls are being trapped in Marriage - and Drugjihad in Kerala. It's Hindu kings who donated free land to Mosques and Churches in Kerala. I belong to the ancient Syrian Christian community from AD 52 in Kerala. Our clergy proudly say, "We are Hindus by culture and Christians by faith". Have you noticed, why Suresh Gopi, a Hindu, won the single BJP seat in a Christian-dominated Thrissur?
As a practitioner of the Dharma (Mumukshu), perhaps one would bother about seek an inquiry (following the Tarkashastras) as to why the Bhagavad Gita has to selectively happen at the war at all? On one hand people call it the Sanatana Dharma (that which is eternally there without change/Avikriti, while in the midst of a change/Vikara), and on the other they also have to pit the teaching restrictively to a war. Why would such a thing be seeking knowledge (vidya and jnana) by the means of wisdom (buddhi-yoga), and instead not be quite delusional? Moreover, that would require physical evidence (Pratyaksha Pramana) to show that Lord Krishna actually said all these things to Arjuna 'during the war', given it was reported by Vidura (that too based on the narrative that he was provided with the divine eye by the Lord himself to see the events without being at the scene). What do these push forth? It would push forth many people to believe that these were a result of advanced technologies and stuff (science fiction which is not even epistemological evidence). That's how Mr. Amish Tripathy's books sell well by writing off that Lord Ganesha was a humanoid (elephant and human mix) and Goddess Kalika was just a specimen of mutation. Sells well with loads of readers, but that also drains the Darshana (Metaphysical Philosophy) down the gutters. And certainly that's also not something that's backed by the scriptures (Shastraas). Is that what you wish the so called 'soft Hindus' to do in the name of becoming strong?
yes hindus should put their boys amd girls into martial arts and create them to be warrior poets like our ancestors not liberal communists lol. but younger generation are waking up.
Jai Gurudev ❤. Thank you Brothers for this open Podcast. I'm born from a Muslim family. By the Grace of Guruji, who is Guiding me and offered me so much Divine experiences. Which I Can Not Denied them and I somehow "" recognized"" them within. There is no words to express my Gratitude, that Guruji called me at is feet. Much love Jai Gurudev ❤.
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within." -- Will Durant
Excellent conversation by these two. On most points I am absolutely aligned with them. One area I beg to differ is when they briefly touched upon "Hindutva." Swami Revatikaanta makes the same mistake as lot of misinformed "liberals" or their agenda-driven Islamist/missionary/Marxist cohorts make in characterizing Hindutva as some kind of mirror image of political Islam bordering on their own exclusivist ideology. Keeping aside the semantics that Hindutva is just "Hinduness" or "essence of being a Hindu" etc., the best way I have come to understand Hindutva, is, as a "resistance movement" to awaken the Hindu society to deal with the overt and covert attempts of predatory, expansionist, colonizing forces of alien Abrahamic belief systems and their secular version "communism." Hindu society reeling under the oppressive and violent forces of political Islam (with jihad as its ideological weapon), had entered a self-destructive shell where people lived under distorted understanding of "karma siddhantha" as "fatalism" (so merely accept the loss of freedom under Islamic rule or later British rule as one's fate, result of past prArabdhas) and reducing glorious Vedantic ideals simply as some "maya vaad", or "everything is an illusion..." and sannyas as some total renunciation "otherworldly" life with no responsibility to protect dharmic society from adharmic forces etc. So, rise of Chatrapati Shivaji, kshatriyata of Naga Sadhus, aghoris against invading Islamic marauders constituted the early antecedents to the later call for resistance under the rubric of "Hindutva." Today, Sangh parivaar or BJP or any other organization that subscribes to "Hindutva" does not subscribe to the same exclusivist ideology of the very forces they are fighting against. Isolated incidents of attack on cow smugglers or few lynching cases related to that are very localized in nature and are rooted in local enmities and result of longstanding feuds between local groups. Most of the so-called "oppressive acts of Hindutva forces against minorities" that get lot of attention in Western and Indian "liberal" media are mostly one-sided narratives used in information war against Hindu society. That is precisely why Hindus have resorted to the use of buzzwords like "Hinduphobia" which Mayuran seem to be objecting to, because, there are legislations being passed in the Western democracies to intimidate people who criticize Islam or the actions of Islamists under the term "Islamophobia." In a world where Hinduism is not even categorized as a "religion" how will Hindus get legal protection when a piece of legislation is framed to protect the "people of religion"? We all know that Hinduism is not a "religion" in the sense Islam is a religion; Hinduism is a dharma. Yet, for political and legal reasons, Hindus have to come under the category of "religion." Same argument applies to the popularization of terms like "Hinduphobia." There is an info war going on out there and buzzwords help certain issues to the forefront. Attacks on Hindu symbols, mockery and misuse or Hindu iconography, routine hate messages in social media and bigoted narratives in Western academia in the name of "academic freedom" etc, needed to be clearly brought under one term. That was "Hinduphobia." Now, people immediately understand what is going on when people raise their voices using this term. Of course, misuse of this term can happen by ignorant and stupid people. Well, recently that Commie philosopher SJ cited Bhagavad Gita was the reason for Nazi mindset of Heinrich Himmler... So, do we blame Gita for Nazi atrocities? No. Same way, if few people are misusing a term or a movement, it doesn't mean that their purpose is ill-conceived. India has a secular constitution and it mostly and wrongly has been used to make Hindus feel guilty about themselves for proudly claiming their Hindu heritage. On the other hand, Islam and Christianity continue to commit proselytization (freedom to propagate religion) and the cultural genocide of native traditions continue without any hindrance. Smallest, most innocent provocations on social media by non-Muslims result in disproportionate acts of violence and destructive reactions by highly-networked radical Islamic organizations in India. Ordinary Hindus suffer immeasurably and there are no political incentives for any party to come to their rescue. Cow smugglers routinely destroy economic means of poor Hindu families by stealing cows. There is rampant "Love Jihad" "Land jihad" etc. You can just dismiss them as mere conspiracy theories or look at the history of Islamic rule and learn from that and actively strategize to offer resistance. When someone comes with a sword to either convert you or kill you, you have to plan on defending yourself. It is illogical to say "we cannot become them." No, Hindus will never become them. There are those who commit acts of violence in the name of Hindutva. But they are merely a small fringe. Most people understand what Hindutva means and know well that its a reaction to the overwhelming historic oppression and destruction of Hindu society and way of life. So, people are slowly waking up to the dire need for resistance within the society. It is not always judicious strategy to rely on secular state to come to your rescue. Kashmir Pandits well tell you that. So, create enough safeguards within your society to resist the anti-Hindu forces. You cannot just go on thinking only about survival. You also have a responsibility to make your traditions thrive. At least, in this land called "Bharata varsha" if not elsewhere.
Hello Praveen, One of the misinformed liberals you seem to be talking about here. Let's just start by saying that I agree with you that there have been atrocities on hindus in the many ways you've said. But I'd like to discuss something with you as a brother to brother If you'd allow me... First of all, When you say that there is a need of hindu resistance and that Hindus need to wake up to oppression... I'd like to ask you that we have to wake up and do what? We cannot be talking about abstract things like show resistance.. wake up wagera wagera and expect to reach anywhere meaningful. My only problem is this rhetoric of "hindu ko jaagna padega" can push a few people in the wrong direction like the few examples you've shared of lynchings and what not. One more thing I'd like to ask you is to search up some statistics of lynchings throughout the years and you'd surely see what I saw. I have talked multiple people about this.. like what kind of resistance we should show as Hindus. and the response is generally things like we should stop muslims from coming into our societies. We should stop muslim immigration... Some people would not even shy away from the idea of saying that we need a muslim genocide.... Do you agree with this? I'd like to ask you how do you propose we show resistance? And I'd like to ask you that would any kind of oppression of the muslim citizens through new unconstitutional laws, solve the.. let's call it "Islam problem"? Please understand that I also want to find a solution of this situation and most liberals do... But I just don't think that due to the hindutva narrative the hate that is spreading and coming out of all people can solve this problem. Would you not agree that if a simple hindu person affected by this hindutva rhetoric hurts an innocent muslim family.. than the child of that family would become more prone to extremist ideology? I also want to point out that a general stereotype towards liberals is that we want to save the people who hurt us... Kashmiri pandits and everyone but this is wrong. Neither me nor a lot of like minded people want the perpetrators to go unpunished. In fact they should be brought to justice as fast as possible in every case. But this distinction is important - "JUST THE PERPETRATORS". we have a functional system of law and punishment in our society. And anyone who harms others must be brought to justice through this law only. I fully support that. The system of punishment has been there since the ancient times and one thing it does is discourage others to do the same thing. And it should be used as it is intended. But the problem starts when deeds of few results in hate towards and undue punishment to the whole group. And then the Political "not ideological" rhetoric of hindutva can easily cause innocent simple people to react in this way of hate towards all of the muslim community and acts of violence. The only thing I want to say to you is this.. I also want a solution to this situation. and the solution I think is the best Is punishment to the deserving but also love to all the others. I think this is what Sanatan dharma teaches us. Someone else was talking about how Mahabharata is all about war and that is what we should be doing. But that in my humble opinion is just not the practical solution. What we need is conversation. Understanding. And when needed Punishment "only to those who deserve😉" but most of all we need to strive towards a society where we try inclusivity of muslims with us and that is a very hard path.. but that is the only way to root out hate from both sides. I'd like to know your views on this. And I'd like to know what is your solution to this problem which I might not have thought of.
Hindutva in a way concerns every Sanaatani across the world, and in true sense the well being of all lives, but it is very much directly related to political discourse in India and thus a German( Samskaara of Nazi impact) is not so frank in accepting its real context, need and implications!
Bible/Exodus 22.20 = ( Anyone who sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed. ) . Muslim/quran = ( you'll go hell if you worships anyone besides allah ) . Hindu Bhagwat Geeta 9.23 = ( if you're worshiping any god other than me then indirectly you're worshiping me only ) . Bhagwat Geeta 7.21 = ( Whichever form "of a deity" any devotee wants to worship with faith, that very firm faith of his I strengthen. ) . Bhagwat Geeta 4.11 = ( In whatever way people surrender unto Me, I reciprocate accordingly. Everyone follows My path, knowingly or unknowingly )
Thank you for making us devotees more down to earth with explanations you have provided in this podcast. There were some points about religions which were new to me and which I didnt think about before.
Thank you for this podcast Swami Revati. The point that was made about the Samskaras which lead us to dodge important points to change the naive thinking was eye opening for me. It marks a direct spot to grasp what is going on in the mind or psyche of people and work on it in detail weather we are devotee or not.
Jai gurudev, j'ai adoré cette vidéo . Elle m'a permise de mettre des mots et un sens au malaise que je ressent depuis quelques temps dans mon travail en tant que laïque avec des prêtres catholiques. Je vais pouvoir identifier et clarifier ma position de hindouiste vaisnava devote de Paramahamsa Vishwananda et faire respecter ma foi avec des arguments faciles à utiliser. Merci infiniment pour cette belle réflexion , accessible à ma compréhension et qui me fait beaucoup de bien dans mon sentiment de légitimité pour défendre mes croyances. Jai jai gurudev ! Abhistada dasi
The Islam bit is chilling. What I don't like is the mosque megaphone call to prayer at 5am (every single day) in faith diverse communities. Most people are in their own personal prayer/meditation. Or asleep requiring silence. But if I may add, I felt deep bhav listening to Islamic prayers being chanted when a moslem neighbor died. The presence of the divine was palpable.
I used to feel the same when I heard those Islamic prayers so serene and I still do but I also know the meaning of the Azan. Its a call that says there is no god but the Islamic god and he is greatest. So they are literally blasting it through loudspeakers to let us know that according to them our gods are false.
Yes Ramakrishna Paramhans practiced and validated the abrahamic paths as legit but at the same time he used to vehemently criticise Christians as being too "sin" oriented which he pointed out as one of Christianity's limitations but people mostly don't dive deep enough into the life and teachings of these mahapurush before making their conclusion thus completely miss the whole teaching (which includes the criticism of each path as well as the the unifying principles) and get identified with one quote or two.
Ram Krishna Paramhansaji said Islam is valid path, however his core principle conflicts with that of Islam. Islam clearly states that it is one and only true path to God, while Rama Krishna says there are innumerable paths to divine realization. I personally think, he was focused on spirituality and completely ignored theology.
Thanks for the Clarity of your Exchane, the discrimination explication 1st hand experience : it s à Precious podcast to listen again to avoid falling into ’easy superficial emotionnal idea conveyed ’ out of fear/ignorance/ facility Thanks
Exclusivity claimers are the spiritual equivalent of an angry football hooligan, who is so blinded by displaying their loyalty that they end up missing the game.
The best Christians exist in Kerala, India. It is believed that St. Thomas, a disciple of Jesus, came to Kerala in AD 52. These Thomas Christians have integrated Hindu traditions as part of their Christian faith. I belong to this community. We proudly say, "We are Hindus by culture and Christian by faith". When Portuguese, we had to fight to preserve our traditions. They try to destroy our faith and traditions
This is a very compelling, well fleshed out and very precise articulation on the issue :-) The Vaishnavite tradition propels us to raise to the higher form of Human experience, for most mortals like me it asks a lot :-) 😊
Monotheism by definition assumes only their religion is valid. Emanuel Swedenborg is a very interesting example of how this was overturned in Christianity
Everything exists on a Hierarchical spectrum. Like light has a Hierarchical spectrum, from higher to lower vibration of light. So All religions exist on a Hierarchical Spectrum All is not one or equal but all can harmoniously exist together just like the light spectrum exists harmoniously together
The best definition in life for all areas is the definition of freedom- my freedom ends, where your freedom starts. You can use it everywhere in life- religions, genders, countries, languages etc. Anywhere. It is the only thing we people should understand in order to co-exist in peacful manner. ✌️
One important point being mentioned is the vulnerability of left ideologies that tend to be overly open and welcome to ideologies that will not allow the same openness. We can see that with the muslim invasion of India, in which more open values gave too much space to aggressive ideologies with the results that we know (temples destroyed, massacre of locals over a period of 500 years). It's naivety to expect to apply the same principle of freedom to ideologies that will threaten that same freedom. So education is important, so we learn from past mistakes .
Thank you so much ❤️❤️🇮🇳🇮🇳 i am from india 🇮🇳 People must learn Not all religions are same . People from india so called liberals must know ,read history , world history
1:25:10 Mayuran just elucidated that Hindus in India are having tiffs with wach other on who is greater Narayan or Krishna. No. This is not a debate Indian Hindus are keen in. Infact qe dont care aboit who is greater. And yes, Hindus of India are clear aboit the problems of exclusivist cults and their assaults on Hindus of India. We know what the problem is. Just seven minutes before that Mayuran talked about how Hindutva is a bad idea because of the aggression and we cannot use buzzwords even though they make sense to advertise our plight. Please. You want us to fight but we shoulsnr use the ammo, weapons and have our hands legs tied and eyes blindfolded. Please Mayuran. Stop it. Hindutva is a legit movemwnt of 100 years. It has won us a state called India that sprawls 32 lakh square km. It would have never been possible without it. We wouldnt have had Ram Mandir after 500 years without Hindutva. We wouldnt have in future Mathura Krishna Janmabhumi, or Kashi. Dont underestimate this
I wish I could share this with my Spanish speaking community. I think this video could go far and wide if it provided captions with translation of different languages.
1:09:25 prabhuji refers to a great vedic quote "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः धर्म हिंसा तथैव च" Non-violence is the ultimate dharma. So too is violence in service of Dharma.
I am Hindu and love you guys. But I do want to say that I fall in the camp of "Let's criticize but with softness and kindness." . There is violence in our thoughts and words, words cut like a knife, we should be gentle and loving with our fellow human beings. If you are Hindu and believe in reincarnation, be gentle, don't think that anyone else's path is "wrong". They are just born in one path or the other. Let us criticize but kindly. They are all our brothers and sisters and at the end of the day, they are us, they are you.
Hahaha would not accuse hindu missionaries for converting white guy to Sanathan by giving money... Let's see if you can & prove you are not hypocrite...
The thing is, we as Hindus are free and generous enough to accept all this equality stuff but, on the other side it's a religious duty to bring the world under their own beliefs so it's good to keep these thoughts, but you are fighting a war here... believe it or not.
Headlines: coming soon--World Exclusivity conference……Swami Ravatikaanta /Mayuran , conference speakers. Will not buy a plane ticket just yet, some of the 7 billion are having a different adventure with the Supreme Being that is personal to them. Magnificent magnificent magnificent. Grateful
Jay Gurudev, thank you for this enlightening podcast, both of you. It is an excelent debate about the conflict between being on a path, which Gurujee has advised us, and the conflict we may get into with monotheistic prejustice. I would be glad for a link to the video you mention several times, who Mayuran made, about the abrahamic exclsive religions?
Narada Bhakti Sutra 49: “One who has abandoned even the Vedas obtains exclusive and unfaltering devotion for God.” I think Guruji teaches pure bhakti is the goal of all religions and also beyond them all. Vaishnavism can also be practiced with lots of ritual and mundane desires. Pure bhakti is complete freedom of our soul in our eternal ❤️🔥 relation with God!
Then it should be of no consequence if someone beliefs in the ‘wrong’ thing. Belief has zero bearing on the Truth or fact. So live & let live, and share your path to whoever cares to listen & follow.
My question if anyone can answer is if we believe in multiple chances of getting to know god regardless of are pas actions how come Ashwathama was Curse to roam the Earth endlessly.
Dude there you got it wrong. You just know the upper layer let me tell you how it works. None of the actions go unseen. You have to pay for what you do. That's why one life is not enough as one is bound to do bad and good. So you get reward for good and punishment for bad. Either in the same life or another or hell or heaven based on the deeds. But not permanently. Once you get your punishment or reward in heaven or hell you are again sent back. Once you attain enlightenment or brahmagyan then only you are free and one with god. Ashwatthama did something that is said to be the lowest of low killing an infant Just for revenge and incompetence. Remember not only deeds but the emotions or factors behind that deed also decides the level of good or bad. That's why ashwatthama got cursed of immortality plus he will continuously feel the never ending pain like a living hell the feeling that a mom would have after losing her infant. No matter how much you pray, he has to go through his punishment till the end of kaliyug. And then only he will get a chance to repent and start again. I hope this helps it's much more complicated than this and my english is not that good.
Harmony can be only there where REALIZED knowledge is. Faith brings disunity because it usually lacks knowledge which unites. We can see it everywhere where the main point is faith instead of knowledge. Once we have the same knowledge, there cannot be disunity about it. Religions based on faith instead of knowledge can never ever be united. It didn't work and it cannot.
Nope because both doctrines were created to destroy the 'heathen pagan' which they did with most of the ancient world but India turned out to be the hardest.Yes they converted a 3rd but the resistance of the rest with warfare as inspired by Krishna and the other Gods/Goddesses was hard to beat.
@@christopherflux6254 unfortunately this is not possible within modern fundamentalist evangelist christianity. The foundation of their beliefs is that everyone is destined for hell unless they accept Christ as their personal saviour. They therefore have a moral obligation to save as many souls as possible by bringing them to Christ. I ran into this years ago and now I understand why are they so intolerant and the part of me that wants to change that in them is actually the intolerance within myself. So now I just let it go
We all know what Mayuran says deep in our bones. But we don't want to talk about it. Unless exclusivity faiths like Islam are willing to accept other faiths, there is no point in the discussion anyways
Religious people have to BELIEVE. They have to have FAITH. This is why they are called BELIEVERS or people of FAITH. Now the thing is, if they had ABSOLUTE CONCRETE EVIDENCE, if they had HARD FACTS, for THEIR SPECIFIC VERSION of God ACTUALLY EXISTING, then they would stop being Believers or people of Faith, and they become SCIENTISTS. Fact is, they can never be scientists because they DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW if their version of God is truly real ! Therefore, they have no choice but to BELIEVE but not actually knowing !
57:33.. completely disagree Swamiji. First advent of invasions happed in 700s. And was brutally opposed by Hindus. And it took 300-400 years for Muslims to enter what we call Today's political borders of India. And there has been immense resistance at every inch of that way, sure it was sometimes organized which lead to victories and sometimes disorganized that lead to defeats. We are still a billion strong exactly because we kept resisting and will continue to resist for another 1000 years. Sure, things have eroded, our concepts were eroded, people are deluded today much more than a few hundred years ago, or people care a little less rhan they should be, or we seem to be divided on most things.. truth of life. But we see largest amalgamation of Hindus we have seen in decades, today, and we will continue to coalesce and fight the propaganda, jihad, evangelists, communists, globalists, secularists and self hating Hindus too. We have seen coming together of castes like never before. We need to keep and oncrease this momentum.. but judging us from afar is not helping.
Definition of oppressor in the Qur'an: 'wa al kafiroon humu al zalimoon' - Kafir is the Oppressor (by denying belief) 2.254 'Asshirk lazulmu aazeem' - Idolatry is great oppression/injustice 31.13 next level: Jihad is obligatory to fight oppression Fundamentals in a nutshell. The Abrahamic ideology very nature is predatory and proselytizing ,emboldened by its soteriology. While slavery existed much of its support was derived from Islam and Islamic countries. There is no obligation on Muslims to release his slaves "..rather, while lightening ,he rivetted the fetters", Koran in matter of slavery is enemy of mankind & woman as usual are greatest sufferers So long as this unlimited permission of living with their female slaves continues, it cannot be expected that there will be any hearty attempt to put a stop to slavery in Mohamedan countries Reference Sir William Muir
I feel they don't love me. And it's the main point for me. Same time Guruji loves me as everyone. I never planned to forget Jesus or Abrahamic way. If they love or me loving, then there would be no problem. Should i love them? Yes. But who will teach me this? Where is an example of being Christian, loving Jesus and following Master? There is no example, because in fact such people just convert themselves to Hindu. It's not bad maybe, but it's inappropriate for me. My goal my love is Jesus. I should never forget him. You know, i really tried to follow both and still trying 10+ years, but sometimes doing japam I feel quite terrible things or just negative offends to devotees overwhelm me during the practice. I asked help from AK teacher, but she didn't. Answer was it's my fault (i should work more). But what direction should i work and whose example follow?
Hindutva is the need of the hour, those who don't understand this, please visit Bharat, Vaishnavas, please come to Mathura, Sri Krishna Janam bhoomi and have a look for yourself, if there is no push back, no Hindutva, the not so tolerant "peacefulls" will destroy all to do with Hinduism. The fact that there are still temples and dieties in Bharat to be worshiped is because of the Swords of Maharana Pratap , Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, Guru Gobind Singh, that is Hindutva. If Ahimsa was the only answer , Sri Krishna would not have told Arjuna to fight. Don't forget your Kshatriya Dharma.
No... Religion and dharma are two different things... .sanatan dharma gives humans freedom follow your conscience of dharma and karma.... ..Dharma means living your life as per the highest moral standards. So even if you’re just trying, you’re a dharmik. Religion is a community's "belief system" revolving around a supposed God...( religion's insecure God said Pray otherwise hell, other community burning eternal in hell.)..they divided humanity in kafir/pegan....these religions destroyed 45 civilisation in the name of god .and Of all the kinds of violence, particularly religion motivated violence is the most dangerous kind. you can speak reason to a man who is fighting for anything else,but those who think they are fighting for God or doing God’s work are only too eager to die and take all of us with them.
How can it be, that a religion is true if it doesnt claim exclusitivity? Hey belief in that but if you belief in other its equally correct. However Islam states clearly that everyone is free to believe what ever he wants (109 of Quran)
The 'saved' Christian may not strictly believe the 'non saved' are going to hell (including their beloved relatives). This is because they are open to the fact that one can silently accept Jesus Christ minutes to their death. However it is more likely that because every soul knows it's eternal, hell does not register emotionally in anyone. Anyone who is mentally stable ...
I somehow couldn’t understand Mr Mayuran , he says Abrahamic religion is western religion. Actually it’s an eastern religion as it originated in Israel. Many people think Islam is an Abrahamic religion, in fact they are different as the Abrahamic God is Yahowah where else god of Islam is Allah (god of Arab) and their attributes, teachings are different. The God of Islam is not love and he doesn’t love. We have to know not only about the doctrine (exclusivity) . We have to know the destination (final goal )of the religion . Why ask another person “ am I going to heaven?” Each individual should know where he is going, and also the heaven (destination) is different .
TRUTH IS AVAILABLE TO ALL! LET THERE BE LOVE AND GOD’S GRACE in my humble opinion you’re not a true Muslim if you can coexist with me in harmony. (Even though this would be wonderful beautiful and divine it wouldn’t be authentic.) Quran 5:51 “Do not take Christians and Jews as friends…..etc” Quran Surat Al-Tawbah verse 5 “ And when the inviolable months1 have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakāh, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allāh is Forgiving and Merciful. As a Christian/Hindu devotee of God myself I can HONESTLY say that i love all beings equally I’m just opposed to any system that promotes violence and injustice. I am opposed to evil. As i believe our God is too. . That’s all I’m going to say... come to Krishna or Christ LOVE YOU BROTHERS! JAI Guru!
I like buddhism,hinduism and christianity.Muslim religion I haven't read yet.And I can perfectly fit the three known by me religion together while my whole environment is materialistic they even eat meat,I'm the only one who don't.I like in christianity that it makes differences between good and bad it's not about fake equality,they know about bad forces they don't live in lalaland. What I don't like in it the less knowledge about the reality.In hinduism I like the knowledge part the most,what I don't like is caste system I think it's a dumb knowledge in the kali yuga as this age is mixed and upside down,in this age birth system dosen't fit our level of consciousness and I don't like the 1×1 karma explanation cause this karma is much more complicated than 1×1 and everything can happen,some people take more some less...at the end of all the Earth lives karma is neutralised but even then sages tell there are truthes and not truthes in life as well.In buddhism I like that they are free from the other two known by me religion,but I don't like that they want only be free without material results as Earth life would be not important.❤
Regarding the caste system: It seems like you don't have a pinch of idea of the caste system. There are many factors that corrupted the whole idea of "Varna system" mentioned by the Rishis mainly through the Vedas and the Puraanams. It is a classification of people based on their work similar to the modern day pyramid representation. It is clearly mentioned that it is not based on one's birth but by the nature of their work. The Islamic invaders first attacked the heads of knowledge i.e., teachers, temples, universities and Gurukulas that taught skills. Thus, the common people started propagating their skills only in their families through generations in an attempt to preserve them. The British propagated it as caste system and that it is vile. They targeted the poor and labourers that they are oppressed by the upper castes through systemic gaslighting and successfully converted a large section of them. Never accuse anything without understanding the root cause.
Great to have Bhrahmins (Dharmic Scholars) like you in our generation.
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Hindus are just soft. We act as if the Bhagavat Gita didn't literally take place on a battlefield. Of course anti Hindu people will use this to say we are violent by nature but at least Hindus need to understand it's okay to stand up for yourself. We have to start from the view point of vasudhaiva kutumbakam but understand the reality that not everyone else sees it that way.
totally true and worse most Hindus have used their cowardice as some sort of moral and spiritiual high ground to hide behind twisting the Gita and other Hindu text to cover themselves. Hinduism wouldnt be here if it werent for Hindu resistance via warfare like we see the Maharata Hindus destroy the Mughal empire in the 18th century because thats real Hinduism.
True. My brother following Sanadhana Dharma, Bharat is fortunately safe with BJP AND RSS. Christian and Hindu girls are being trapped in Marriage - and Drugjihad in Kerala. It's Hindu kings who donated free land to Mosques and Churches in Kerala. I belong to the ancient Syrian Christian community from AD 52 in Kerala. Our clergy proudly say, "We are Hindus by culture and Christians by faith". Have you noticed, why Suresh Gopi, a Hindu, won the single BJP seat in a Christian-dominated Thrissur?
Nobody thinks hindus are violent. Only muslims say you are violent because thats the parasitic defence.
As a practitioner of the Dharma (Mumukshu), perhaps one would bother about seek an inquiry (following the Tarkashastras) as to why the Bhagavad Gita has to selectively happen at the war at all? On one hand people call it the Sanatana Dharma (that which is eternally there without change/Avikriti, while in the midst of a change/Vikara), and on the other they also have to pit the teaching restrictively to a war. Why would such a thing be seeking knowledge (vidya and jnana) by the means of wisdom (buddhi-yoga), and instead not be quite delusional?
Moreover, that would require physical evidence (Pratyaksha Pramana) to show that Lord Krishna actually said all these things to Arjuna 'during the war', given it was reported by Vidura (that too based on the narrative that he was provided with the divine eye by the Lord himself to see the events without being at the scene). What do these push forth? It would push forth many people to believe that these were a result of advanced technologies and stuff (science fiction which is not even epistemological evidence). That's how Mr. Amish Tripathy's books sell well by writing off that Lord Ganesha was a humanoid (elephant and human mix) and Goddess Kalika was just a specimen of mutation. Sells well with loads of readers, but that also drains the Darshana (Metaphysical Philosophy) down the gutters. And certainly that's also not something that's backed by the scriptures (Shastraas). Is that what you wish the so called 'soft Hindus' to do in the name of becoming strong?
yes hindus should put their boys amd girls into martial arts and create them to be warrior poets like our ancestors not liberal communists lol. but younger generation are waking up.
Exactly this is the kind of discussion to be had in interfaith dialogue and not some meaningless platitudes
Well said. These concerning pillars of faith in the Abrahamic ideologies are required to be put forth in any interfaith dialogue.
Any religion that prohibits its followers from learning and questioning the unknown cannot coexist with other religions
Cult not religion
Jai Gurudev ❤.
Thank you Brothers for this open Podcast.
I'm born from a Muslim family. By the Grace of Guruji, who is Guiding me and offered me so much Divine experiences. Which I Can Not Denied them and I somehow "" recognized"" them within. There is no words to express my Gratitude, that Guruji called me at is feet. Much love
Jai Gurudev ❤.
are you a hindu now?
"The Islamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom, culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within." -- Will Durant
atleast some people are aware
Excellent conversation by these two. On most points I am absolutely aligned with them. One area I beg to differ is when they briefly touched upon "Hindutva." Swami Revatikaanta makes the same mistake as lot of misinformed "liberals" or their agenda-driven Islamist/missionary/Marxist cohorts make in characterizing Hindutva as some kind of mirror image of political Islam bordering on their own exclusivist ideology.
Keeping aside the semantics that Hindutva is just "Hinduness" or "essence of being a Hindu" etc., the best way I have come to understand Hindutva, is, as a "resistance movement" to awaken the Hindu society to deal with the overt and covert attempts of predatory, expansionist, colonizing forces of alien Abrahamic belief systems and their secular version "communism." Hindu society reeling under the oppressive and violent forces of political Islam (with jihad as its ideological weapon), had entered a self-destructive shell where people lived under distorted understanding of "karma siddhantha" as "fatalism" (so merely accept the loss of freedom under Islamic rule or later British rule as one's fate, result of past prArabdhas) and reducing glorious Vedantic ideals simply as some "maya vaad", or "everything is an illusion..." and sannyas as some total renunciation "otherworldly" life with no responsibility to protect dharmic society from adharmic forces etc. So, rise of Chatrapati Shivaji, kshatriyata of Naga Sadhus, aghoris against invading Islamic marauders constituted the early antecedents to the later call for resistance under the rubric of "Hindutva."
Today, Sangh parivaar or BJP or any other organization that subscribes to "Hindutva" does not subscribe to the same exclusivist ideology of the very forces they are fighting against. Isolated incidents of attack on cow smugglers or few lynching cases related to that are very localized in nature and are rooted in local enmities and result of longstanding feuds between local groups. Most of the so-called "oppressive acts of Hindutva forces against minorities" that get lot of attention in Western and Indian "liberal" media are mostly one-sided narratives used in information war against Hindu society. That is precisely why Hindus have resorted to the use of buzzwords like "Hinduphobia" which Mayuran seem to be objecting to, because, there are legislations being passed in the Western democracies to intimidate people who criticize Islam or the actions of Islamists under the term "Islamophobia." In a world where Hinduism is not even categorized as a "religion" how will Hindus get legal protection when a piece of legislation is framed to protect the "people of religion"? We all know that Hinduism is not a "religion" in the sense Islam is a religion; Hinduism is a dharma. Yet, for political and legal reasons, Hindus have to come under the category of "religion." Same argument applies to the popularization of terms like "Hinduphobia." There is an info war going on out there and buzzwords help certain issues to the forefront. Attacks on Hindu symbols, mockery and misuse or Hindu iconography, routine hate messages in social media and bigoted narratives in Western academia in the name of "academic freedom" etc, needed to be clearly brought under one term. That was "Hinduphobia." Now, people immediately understand what is going on when people raise their voices using this term. Of course, misuse of this term can happen by ignorant and stupid people. Well, recently that Commie philosopher SJ cited Bhagavad Gita was the reason for Nazi mindset of Heinrich Himmler... So, do we blame Gita for Nazi atrocities? No. Same way, if few people are misusing a term or a movement, it doesn't mean that their purpose is ill-conceived.
India has a secular constitution and it mostly and wrongly has been used to make Hindus feel guilty about themselves for proudly claiming their Hindu heritage. On the other hand, Islam and Christianity continue to commit proselytization (freedom to propagate religion) and the cultural genocide of native traditions continue without any hindrance. Smallest, most innocent provocations on social media by non-Muslims result in disproportionate acts of violence and destructive reactions by highly-networked radical Islamic organizations in India. Ordinary Hindus suffer immeasurably and there are no political incentives for any party to come to their rescue. Cow smugglers routinely destroy economic means of poor Hindu families by stealing cows. There is rampant "Love Jihad" "Land jihad" etc. You can just dismiss them as mere conspiracy theories or look at the history of Islamic rule and learn from that and actively strategize to offer resistance. When someone comes with a sword to either convert you or kill you, you have to plan on defending yourself. It is illogical to say "we cannot become them." No, Hindus will never become them. There are those who commit acts of violence in the name of Hindutva. But they are merely a small fringe. Most people understand what Hindutva means and know well that its a reaction to the overwhelming historic oppression and destruction of Hindu society and way of life. So, people are slowly waking up to the dire need for resistance within the society. It is not always judicious strategy to rely on secular state to come to your rescue. Kashmir Pandits well tell you that. So, create enough safeguards within your society to resist the anti-Hindu forces. You cannot just go on thinking only about survival. You also have a responsibility to make your traditions thrive. At least, in this land called "Bharata varsha" if not elsewhere.
Hello Praveen, One of the misinformed liberals you seem to be talking about here.
Let's just start by saying that I agree with you that there have been atrocities on hindus in the many ways you've said. But I'd like to discuss something with you as a brother to brother If you'd allow me...
First of all, When you say that there is a need of hindu resistance and that Hindus need to wake up to oppression... I'd like to ask you that we have to wake up and do what? We cannot be talking about abstract things like show resistance.. wake up wagera wagera and expect to reach anywhere meaningful.
My only problem is this rhetoric of "hindu ko jaagna padega" can push a few people in the wrong direction like the few examples you've shared of lynchings and what not. One more thing I'd like to ask you is to search up some statistics of lynchings throughout the years and you'd surely see what I saw.
I have talked multiple people about this.. like what kind of resistance we should show as Hindus. and the response is generally things like we should stop muslims from coming into our societies. We should stop muslim immigration... Some people would not even shy away from the idea of saying that we need a muslim genocide.... Do you agree with this? I'd like to ask you how do you propose we show resistance? And I'd like to ask you that would any kind of oppression of the muslim citizens through new unconstitutional laws, solve the.. let's call it "Islam problem"?
Please understand that I also want to find a solution of this situation and most liberals do... But I just don't think that due to the hindutva narrative the hate that is spreading and coming out of all people can solve this problem. Would you not agree that if a simple hindu person affected by this hindutva rhetoric hurts an innocent muslim family.. than the child of that family would become more prone to extremist ideology?
I also want to point out that a general stereotype towards liberals is that we want to save the people who hurt us... Kashmiri pandits and everyone but this is wrong.
Neither me nor a lot of like minded people want the perpetrators to go unpunished. In fact they should be brought to justice as fast as possible in every case. But this distinction is important - "JUST THE PERPETRATORS". we have a functional system of law and punishment in our society. And anyone who harms others must be brought to justice through this law only. I fully support that. The system of punishment has been there since the ancient times and one thing it does is discourage others to do the same thing. And it should be used as it is intended. But the problem starts when deeds of few results in hate towards and undue punishment to the whole group. And then the Political "not ideological" rhetoric of hindutva can easily cause innocent simple people to react in this way of hate towards all of the muslim community and acts of violence.
The only thing I want to say to you is this.. I also want a solution to this situation. and the solution I think is the best Is punishment to the deserving but also love to all the others. I think this is what Sanatan dharma teaches us. Someone else was talking about how Mahabharata is all about war and that is what we should be doing. But that in my humble opinion is just not the practical solution. What we need is conversation. Understanding. And when needed Punishment "only to those who deserve😉" but most of all we need to strive towards a society where we try inclusivity of muslims with us and that is a very hard path.. but that is the only way to root out hate from both sides.
I'd like to know your views on this. And I'd like to know what is your solution to this problem which I might not have thought of.
Hindutva in a way concerns every Sanaatani across the world, and in true sense the well being of all lives, but it is very much directly related to political discourse in India and thus a German( Samskaara of Nazi impact) is not so frank in accepting its real context, need and implications!
This podcast should come in mainstream society especially in india where mass conversion of hindus taking place by abrahimic religious
Bible/Exodus 22.20 = ( Anyone who sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed. )
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Muslim/quran = ( you'll go hell if you worships anyone besides allah )
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Bhagwat Geeta 9.23 = ( if you're worshiping any god other than me then indirectly you're worshiping me only )
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Bhagwat Geeta 7.21 = ( Whichever form "of a deity" any devotee wants to worship with faith, that very firm faith of his I strengthen. )
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Bhagwat Geeta 4.11 = ( In whatever way people surrender unto Me, I reciprocate accordingly. Everyone follows My path, knowingly or unknowingly )
Far be it from me to be greedy 😋, but please don't stop, it is so liberating to listen to you! Much thanks, Jai Gurudev! Ram Ram ❤
Thank you for making us devotees more down to earth with explanations you have provided in this podcast. There were some points about religions which were new to me and which I didnt think about before.
Thank you for this podcast Swami Revati. The point that was made about the Samskaras which lead us to dodge important points to change the naive thinking was eye opening for me. It marks a direct spot to grasp what is going on in the mind or psyche of people and work on it in detail weather we are devotee or not.
Even living thousands of miles away the Love is felt so strongly of course. He’s in our Hearts. Yes yes yes
Jai gurudev, j'ai adoré cette vidéo . Elle m'a permise de mettre des mots et un sens au malaise que je ressent depuis quelques temps dans mon travail en tant que laïque avec des prêtres catholiques. Je vais pouvoir identifier et clarifier ma position de hindouiste vaisnava devote de Paramahamsa Vishwananda et faire respecter ma foi avec des arguments faciles à utiliser. Merci infiniment pour cette belle réflexion , accessible à ma compréhension et qui me fait beaucoup de bien dans mon sentiment de légitimité pour défendre mes croyances. Jai jai gurudev ! Abhistada dasi
Just hooked on to this video when you said, Europe needs to learn from the mistakes India made by allowing Islam.
@ Swami RevatiKaanta I love your Mula-ness. Direct, to the root of it all, I appreciate that
The Islam bit is chilling.
What I don't like is the mosque megaphone call to prayer at 5am (every single day) in faith diverse communities. Most people are in their own personal prayer/meditation. Or asleep requiring silence.
But if I may add, I felt deep bhav listening to Islamic prayers being chanted when a moslem neighbor died. The presence of the divine was palpable.
I used to feel the same when I heard those Islamic prayers so serene and I still do but I also know the meaning of the Azan. Its a call that says there is no god but the Islamic god and he is greatest. So they are literally blasting it through loudspeakers to let us know that according to them our gods are false.
Yes Ramakrishna Paramhans practiced and validated the abrahamic paths as legit but at the same time he used to vehemently criticise Christians as being too "sin" oriented which he pointed out as one of Christianity's limitations but people mostly don't dive deep enough into the life and teachings of these mahapurush before making their conclusion thus completely miss the whole teaching (which includes the criticism of each path as well as the the unifying principles) and get identified with one quote or two.
Brilliant, you two. Could listen to your conversation for hours. Please go on. ❣️
People in India need to see this conversation and understand.
They just don't know anything.
Ram Krishna Paramhansaji said Islam is valid path, however his core principle conflicts with that of Islam. Islam clearly states that it is one and only true path to God, while Rama Krishna says there are innumerable paths to divine realization. I personally think, he was focused on spirituality and completely ignored theology.
Thanks for the Clarity of your Exchane, the discrimination explication 1st hand experience : it s à Precious podcast to listen again to avoid falling into ’easy superficial emotionnal idea conveyed ’ out of fear/ignorance/ facility Thanks
This should go viral. Excellent analysis 👏
Nice to hear some open discussion on those subjects
Exclusivity claimers are the spiritual equivalent of an angry football hooligan, who is so blinded by displaying their loyalty that they end up missing the game.
Not necessarily. It’s possible to claim exclusivity and remain humble. It’s difficult, but it’s possible.
@@christopherflux6254 but it's stupid regardless.
The best Christians exist in Kerala, India. It is believed that St. Thomas, a disciple of Jesus, came to Kerala in AD 52. These Thomas Christians have integrated Hindu traditions as part of their Christian faith. I belong to this community. We proudly say, "We are Hindus by culture and Christian by faith". When Portuguese, we had to fight to preserve our traditions. They try to destroy our faith and traditions
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I hope Christians of India realize Hindus are not their enemy or Satanic. in Andhra, seems like Christians are brainwashed and radicalized. It is sad
Yeah sure, "Thomas Philip". Very Hindu of you.
@@Seevawonderloaf They don't go around it. They call Hindus Satanic and in a predatory way, place obstacles in families and societies. Example Andhra
You are no less than a joker😂
Jai Gurudev and thank you so much.
If the entire world watch thus podcast there will be lasting world peace
This is a very compelling, well fleshed out and very precise articulation on the issue :-)
The Vaishnavite tradition propels us to raise to the higher form of Human experience, for most mortals like me it asks a lot :-) 😊
Monotheism by definition assumes only their religion is valid. Emanuel Swedenborg is a very interesting example of how this was overturned in Christianity
Everything exists on a Hierarchical spectrum. Like light has a Hierarchical spectrum, from higher to lower vibration of light.
So All religions exist on a Hierarchical Spectrum
All is not one or equal but all can harmoniously exist together just like the light spectrum exists harmoniously together
Great topic and very necessary to address nowadays.
0:01 , yes, live example is Nepal but Christian missionaries are ruining it.
The best definition in life for all areas is the definition of freedom- my freedom ends, where your freedom starts. You can use it everywhere in life- religions, genders, countries, languages etc. Anywhere. It is the only thing we people should understand in order to co-exist in peacful manner. ✌️
One important point being mentioned is the vulnerability of left ideologies that tend to be overly open and welcome to ideologies that will not allow the same openness. We can see that with the muslim invasion of India, in which more open values gave too much space to aggressive ideologies with the results that we know (temples destroyed, massacre of locals over a period of 500 years). It's naivety to expect to apply the same principle of freedom to ideologies that will threaten that same freedom. So education is important, so we learn from past mistakes .
God bless you both. Much needed podcast on this topic in an intelligent manner. Not out of rhetoric and hate.
“This is a path, I must honor the borders and disciplines of this path.”
Jai Gurudev! Thank you for this! 💕
Thank you so much ❤️❤️🇮🇳🇮🇳 i am from india 🇮🇳 People must learn Not all religions are same . People from india so called liberals must know ,read history , world history
Great to see this kind of podcast 😊😊
Es war großartig 👏🏾
Jai gurudev great session.❤and wonderful timing 🎉
Jai Gurudev ❤
1:25:10 Mayuran just elucidated that Hindus in India are having tiffs with wach other on who is greater Narayan or Krishna. No. This is not a debate Indian Hindus are keen in. Infact qe dont care aboit who is greater. And yes, Hindus of India are clear aboit the problems of exclusivist cults and their assaults on Hindus of India. We know what the problem is.
Just seven minutes before that Mayuran talked about how Hindutva is a bad idea because of the aggression and we cannot use buzzwords even though they make sense to advertise our plight.
Please.
You want us to fight but we shoulsnr use the ammo, weapons and have our hands legs tied and eyes blindfolded.
Please Mayuran. Stop it. Hindutva is a legit movemwnt of 100 years. It has won us a state called India that sprawls 32 lakh square km. It would have never been possible without it. We wouldnt have had Ram Mandir after 500 years without Hindutva. We wouldnt have in future Mathura Krishna Janmabhumi, or Kashi. Dont underestimate this
I wish I could share this with my Spanish speaking community. I think this video could go far and wide if it provided captions with translation of different languages.
It is now available including Spanish. 🤝
@@thechurningrod Haribol! My humble obesiances.
1:09:25 prabhuji refers to a great vedic quote "अहिंसा परमो धर्मः
धर्म हिंसा तथैव च"
Non-violence is the ultimate dharma.
So too is violence in service of Dharma.
I am Hindu and love you guys. But I do want to say that I fall in the camp of "Let's criticize but with softness and kindness." . There is violence in our thoughts and words, words cut like a knife, we should be gentle and loving with our fellow human beings. If you are Hindu and believe in reincarnation, be gentle, don't think that anyone else's path is "wrong". They are just born in one path or the other. Let us criticize but kindly. They are all our brothers and sisters and at the end of the day, they are us, they are you.
Hahaha would not accuse hindu missionaries for converting white guy to Sanathan by giving money... Let's see if you can & prove you are not hypocrite...
The thing is, we as Hindus are free and generous enough to accept all this equality stuff but, on the other side it's a religious duty to bring the world under their own beliefs so it's good to keep these thoughts, but you are fighting a war here... believe it or not.
Headlines: coming soon--World Exclusivity conference……Swami Ravatikaanta /Mayuran , conference speakers. Will not buy a plane ticket just yet, some of the 7 billion are having a different adventure with the Supreme Being that is personal to them. Magnificent magnificent magnificent. Grateful
Whoops correction. Swami Revatikaanta
Advaita IS the ways and means for true peace both within and with ‘others’ 😊
Amazing Talk 👏❤
Finally nice to meet Dharma speaks.
Jay Gurudev, thank you for this enlightening podcast, both of you. It is an excelent debate about the conflict between being on a path, which Gurujee has advised us, and the conflict we may get into with monotheistic prejustice.
I would be glad for a link to the video you mention several times, who Mayuran made, about the abrahamic exclsive religions?
Narada Bhakti Sutra 49: “One who has abandoned even the Vedas obtains exclusive and unfaltering devotion for God.” I think Guruji teaches pure bhakti is the goal of all religions and also beyond them all. Vaishnavism can also be practiced with lots of ritual and mundane desires. Pure bhakti is complete freedom of our soul in our eternal ❤️🔥 relation with God!
Excellent illuminating discussion 🙏🏼
Excellent thought
Love this! But please timestamp with the main discussion points as chapters 🙏🏾 or break into smaller clips as well to share with a wider audience!
Hare Krishna Hare Rama 🙏
Then it should be of no consequence if someone beliefs in the ‘wrong’ thing. Belief has zero bearing on the Truth or fact. So live & let live, and share your path to whoever cares to listen & follow.
My question if anyone can answer is if we believe in multiple chances of getting to know god regardless of are pas actions how come Ashwathama was Curse to roam the Earth endlessly.
Dude there you got it wrong. You just know the upper layer let me tell you how it works.
None of the actions go unseen. You have to pay for what you do. That's why one life is not enough as one is bound to do bad and good. So you get reward for good and punishment for bad. Either in the same life or another or hell or heaven based on the deeds. But not permanently. Once you get your punishment or reward in heaven or hell you are again sent back.
Once you attain enlightenment or brahmagyan then only you are free and one with god.
Ashwatthama did something that is said to be the lowest of low killing an infant
Just for revenge and incompetence. Remember not only deeds but the emotions or factors behind that deed also decides the level of good or bad. That's why ashwatthama got cursed of immortality plus he will continuously feel the never ending pain like a living hell the feeling that a mom would have after losing her infant.
No matter how much you pray, he has to go through his punishment till the end of kaliyug. And then only he will get a chance to repent and start again.
I hope this helps it's much more complicated than this and my english is not that good.
@@lucifermorningstar1253 helped a lot thanks
Can you also do a video podcast with Shri Rajarshi Nandy. He is a Bhairava worshipper and well admired by people? ❤
Harmony can be only there where REALIZED knowledge is. Faith brings disunity because it usually lacks knowledge which unites. We can see it everywhere where the main point is faith instead of knowledge. Once we have the same knowledge, there cannot be disunity about it.
Religions based on faith instead of knowledge can never ever be united. It didn't work and it cannot.
Nope because both doctrines were created to destroy the 'heathen pagan' which they did with most of the ancient world but India turned out to be the hardest.Yes they converted a 3rd but the resistance of the rest with warfare as inspired by Krishna and the other Gods/Goddesses was hard to beat.
The book "Being Different" by Rajiv Malhotra highlights similar issues... Must read for all!!!
You cannot tackle the exclusivity of modern Christianity because exclusivity is inherent within their doctrine. Just allow them to be exclusive
Yes. And it’s possible to be exclusivist and be tolerant towards people of other faiths at the same time.
@@christopherflux6254 unfortunately this is not possible within modern fundamentalist evangelist christianity. The foundation of their beliefs is that everyone is destined for hell unless they accept Christ as their personal saviour. They therefore have a moral obligation to save as many souls as possible by bringing them to Christ. I ran into this years ago and now I understand why are they so intolerant and the part of me that wants to change that in them is actually the intolerance within myself. So now I just let it go
Truth
Was waiting for this topic ❤ watched all the videos on the Dharma Speaks YT channel.
This has to go viral 🎉
We all know what Mayuran says deep in our bones. But we don't want to talk about it. Unless exclusivity faiths like Islam are willing to accept other faiths, there is no point in the discussion anyways
Religious people have to BELIEVE. They have to have FAITH. This is why they are called BELIEVERS or people of FAITH. Now the thing is, if they had ABSOLUTE CONCRETE EVIDENCE, if they had HARD FACTS, for THEIR SPECIFIC VERSION of God ACTUALLY EXISTING, then they would stop being Believers or people of Faith, and they become SCIENTISTS. Fact is, they can never be scientists because they DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW if their version of God is truly real ! Therefore, they have no choice but to BELIEVE but not actually knowing !
Anyways, it's already done. Lamentations 3 : 31 You're welcome.
Wow, it was a great discussion.
holy shit ... did i just see two chad brahmacharyas in a podcast..... feels like a time machine took us back a 1000 years lol
Would have been great if you touched up the worldview of European pagans also.
57:33.. completely disagree Swamiji.
First advent of invasions happed in 700s. And was brutally opposed by Hindus. And it took 300-400 years for Muslims to enter what we call Today's political borders of India.
And there has been immense resistance at every inch of that way, sure it was sometimes organized which lead to victories and sometimes disorganized that lead to defeats.
We are still a billion strong exactly because we kept resisting and will continue to resist for another 1000 years.
Sure, things have eroded, our concepts were eroded, people are deluded today much more than a few hundred years ago, or people care a little less rhan they should be, or we seem to be divided on most things.. truth of life. But we see largest amalgamation of Hindus we have seen in decades, today, and we will continue to coalesce and fight the propaganda, jihad, evangelists, communists, globalists, secularists and self hating Hindus too. We have seen coming together of castes like never before. We need to keep and oncrease this momentum.. but judging us from afar is not helping.
Definition of oppressor in the Qur'an:
'wa al kafiroon humu al zalimoon' - Kafir is the Oppressor (by denying belief) 2.254
'Asshirk lazulmu aazeem' - Idolatry is great oppression/injustice 31.13
next level: Jihad is obligatory to fight oppression
Fundamentals in a nutshell.
The Abrahamic ideology very nature is predatory and proselytizing ,emboldened by its soteriology.
While slavery existed much of its support was derived from Islam and Islamic countries. There is no obligation on Muslims to release his slaves "..rather, while lightening ,he rivetted the fetters", Koran in matter of slavery is enemy of mankind & woman as usual are greatest sufferers So long as this unlimited permission of living with their female slaves continues, it cannot be expected that there will be any hearty attempt to put a stop to slavery in Mohamedan countries Reference Sir William Muir
It seems to me that s also "Courageous" incentive to follow the Dharma
I feel they don't love me. And it's the main point for me.
Same time Guruji loves me as everyone.
I never planned to forget Jesus or Abrahamic way.
If they love or me loving, then there would be no problem.
Should i love them? Yes. But who will teach me this? Where is an example of being Christian, loving Jesus and following Master? There is no example, because in fact such people just convert themselves to Hindu.
It's not bad maybe, but it's inappropriate for me.
My goal my love is Jesus. I should never forget him.
You know, i really tried to follow both and still trying 10+ years, but sometimes doing japam I feel quite terrible things or just negative offends to devotees overwhelm me during the practice.
I asked help from AK teacher, but she didn't. Answer was it's my fault (i should work more). But what direction should i work and whose example follow?
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Jai Gurudev ! Perfect timing! 😂❤❤
HINDU ALONE SELF DEFENCE PERFECTLY LEGAL AND JUST.
As atheist I request don’t compare ☪️UL✝️ ideologies with eastern philosophies🙏🏻
Great conversation 👌
All religions are.not the same
Hindutva is the need of the hour, those who don't understand this, please visit Bharat, Vaishnavas, please come to Mathura, Sri Krishna Janam bhoomi and have a look for yourself, if there is no push back, no Hindutva, the not so tolerant "peacefulls" will destroy all to do with Hinduism. The fact that there are still temples and dieties in Bharat to be worshiped is because of the Swords of Maharana Pratap , Chatrapati Shivaji Maharaj, Guru Gobind Singh, that is Hindutva. If Ahimsa was the only answer , Sri Krishna would not have told Arjuna to fight. Don't forget your Kshatriya Dharma.
answer of thumbnail question: NO
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Any religious beliefs that is unjust will have no place in this country.
That was Gandhian way.....
Jai Gurudev
No Muslim ever worship Sai Baba. It is obly Hindus. It is easy to melt our hearts. Not theirs
No...
Religion and dharma are two different things...
.sanatan dharma gives humans freedom follow your conscience of dharma and karma....
..Dharma means living your life as per the highest moral standards. So even if you’re just trying, you’re a dharmik.
Religion is a community's "belief system" revolving around a supposed God...( religion's insecure God said Pray otherwise hell, other community burning eternal in hell.)..they divided humanity in kafir/pegan....these religions destroyed 45 civilisation in the name of god .and
Of all the kinds of violence, particularly religion motivated violence is the most dangerous kind. you can speak reason to a man who is fighting for anything else,but those who think they are fighting for God or doing God’s work are only too eager to die and take all of us with them.
How can it be, that a religion is true if it doesnt claim exclusitivity? Hey belief in that but if you belief in other its equally correct.
However Islam states clearly that everyone is free to believe what ever he wants (109 of Quran)
The 'saved' Christian may not strictly believe the 'non saved' are going to hell (including their beloved relatives). This is because they are open to the fact that one can silently accept Jesus Christ minutes to their death.
However it is more likely that because every soul knows it's eternal, hell does not register emotionally in anyone. Anyone who is mentally stable ...
I somehow couldn’t understand Mr Mayuran , he says Abrahamic religion is western religion. Actually it’s an eastern religion as it originated in Israel.
Many people think Islam is an Abrahamic religion, in fact they are different as the Abrahamic God is Yahowah where else god of Islam is Allah (god of Arab) and their attributes, teachings are different. The God of Islam is not love and he doesn’t love. We have to know not only about the doctrine (exclusivity) . We have to know the destination (final goal )of the religion .
Why ask another person “ am I going to heaven?” Each individual should know where he is going, and also the heaven (destination) is different .
No with Islam is impossible
Can you please invite Radhanath swami Maharaja on your podcast?
TRUTH IS AVAILABLE TO ALL! LET THERE BE LOVE AND GOD’S GRACE
in my humble opinion you’re not a true Muslim if you can coexist with me in harmony. (Even though this would be wonderful beautiful and divine it wouldn’t be authentic.)
Quran 5:51
“Do not take Christians and Jews as friends…..etc”
Quran Surat Al-Tawbah verse 5 “ And when the inviolable months1 have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakāh, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allāh is Forgiving and Merciful.
As a Christian/Hindu devotee of God myself I can HONESTLY say that i love all beings equally I’m just opposed to any system that promotes violence and injustice. I am opposed to evil. As i believe our God is too. .
That’s all I’m going to say... come to Krishna or Christ
LOVE YOU BROTHERS! JAI Guru!
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I like buddhism,hinduism and christianity.Muslim religion I haven't read yet.And I can perfectly fit the three known by me religion together while my whole environment is materialistic they even eat meat,I'm the only one who don't.I like in christianity that it makes differences between good and bad it's not about fake equality,they know about bad forces they don't live in lalaland. What I don't like in it the less knowledge about the reality.In hinduism I like the knowledge part the most,what I don't like is caste system I think it's a dumb knowledge in the kali yuga as this age is mixed and upside down,in this age birth system dosen't fit our level of consciousness and I don't like the 1×1 karma explanation cause this karma is much more complicated than 1×1 and everything can happen,some people take more some less...at the end of all the Earth lives karma is neutralised but even then sages tell there are truthes and not truthes in life as well.In buddhism I like that they are free from the other two known by me religion,but I don't like that they want only be free without material results as Earth life would be not important.❤
Regarding the caste system: It seems like you don't have a pinch of idea of the caste system. There are many factors that corrupted the whole idea of "Varna system" mentioned by the Rishis mainly through the Vedas and the Puraanams. It is a classification of people based on their work similar to the modern day pyramid representation. It is clearly mentioned that it is not based on one's birth but by the nature of their work. The Islamic invaders first attacked the heads of knowledge i.e., teachers, temples, universities and Gurukulas that taught skills. Thus, the common people started propagating their skills only in their families through generations in an attempt to preserve them. The British propagated it as caste system and that it is vile. They targeted the poor and labourers that they are oppressed by the upper castes through systemic gaslighting and successfully converted a large section of them.
Never accuse anything without understanding the root cause.
@@supernerd8527 it was varna system not caste sysytem is given by britishers
@@SavitaDevi-ny5mm that's what I said ma'am.
Which guruji are we talking about? Apologies in advance.
Paramahamsa Vishwananda