Whoever made the decision to transfer full custody of the daughter to Ashley, a complete stranger to the child, without telling Chad or consulting with him in any way needs to be investigated thoroughly. What kind of decision was this?
@@Nagaeem Sometimes I wonder if the courts try to take as many shortcuts as possible with their cases to clear their dockets as quickly as possible, which has to be the cause of these brainless decisions. It cannot be because the courts lack intelligence - judges have to complete law school which requires a basic level of intelligence.
Totally agree. I'm a retired first grade teacher and I can't imagine having one of my students picked up from a person she doesn't even recognize. I think Ashley came home from the service and saw her child as a money grab to get child support. She Is delivering pizzas so, not much money. But the fact that she never contacted he child in years.
It's almost ironic that the high probability of individuals being the stupidest parents is directly proportional to the high probability of individuals being the most successful with fertility. Too bad reproduction does not have some type of built-in biological "skill testing question" to ensure a certain level of brain function is required for conception to take place.
Why murder this woman, just to abuse her child? She was the driving force of the murder, she has zero moral compass and very much a narcissist. They all suck, Chad and his mother included, but I believe they actually loved the children.
yep. and it costs money to hold the other parent accountable for keeping the child in spite of a legal custody agreement which aren't as legally strong as most people think. most people don't have complex family court custody experience so they think police regularly enforce custody agreements. they don't, unless a judge orders police officers to be specifically involved for a single physical exchange. if a kid is held back by the parent and the other parent calls the police, like most people would advise them to, the police will tell the parent that they can't get involved without a court order directing them to get involved. It takes time & money, even if self representing, to get on the judge's docket. it most often takes multiple hearings before that court order to enforce handover is granted. It probably took a lot of time and money before Ashley was granted custody after Chad kept the child back for so long. It's likely why so much time went by. I see people implying that Ashley just strolled into court and was granted custody just because she was the mom. that's not how it happens in instances like this one. you're right, it was Chad's fault for isolating the child fully from her mother for so long.
Thank you both for more context. I figured there was more to the story but as you said, I’m like most people and don’t have experience in custody battles.
Yep, they most likely disapproved of Ashley's bisexuality so refused this baby the right to know her biological mom. That's right, THE CHILD'S RIGHT.... So many parents only care about their own right that they stop caring about what's right for the child
RIP young lady. I delivered pizzas while in college and as a part time gig for a few years after graduating. I doubt she was nervous at all because you sometimes get different and/or weird requests for certain deliveries. I saw some crazy s*** at times and did have to keep my head on a swivel late at night. This poor girl had no clue. So so senseless.
51:47 😢 what a strong woman Victoria raised ❤ to make her own organization for missing people instead of just laying down and getting depressed she’s helped so many others and now that I know there’s a missing person month I will do my best to share information and help where I am able.
What a tragic story. All of these children lost their parents. The letters she wrote to her father in prison are heartbreaking. The abuse she was suffering at the hands of her step-mother---that alone should have sent Erica to prison.
Erica Stefanko was convicted of luring Ashley Biggs to a closed business in New Franklin by ordering a pizza to that location. There, Stefanko’s husband Chad Cobb beat and strangled Biggs to death, prosecutors said.
Child custody cases turn into a sport of only wanting to win at any cost especially when there's a new spouse involved and they team up against the ex.
Your first mistake is thinking the Army is sending you to fight for you country. It is sending you to fight for corporations and politicians who benefit from investing in those corporations. War is a billion dollar industry and you are not defending your country when you are being sent to another country across the world. You have no idea what the US army has done to innocent women and children beyond the scope of murder... Then we have the military contracts and mercenary companies.
Well, I bet you'll really freak out when you find out that that's normal even for active duty service members. People don't join the military to get wealthy but unless they are Officer's or high ranked NCO's,(Non Commissioned Officer) the struggle is real especially if you fave a family to feed.
no one deserves to die but ......... wow they just handed this little girl home with a stranger(mom) .......? only 6m in but he got F'd. Not saying killing is justified.
The daughter was being abused before and after her mom's de@th. She was in counseling months before the custody battle started. That's why the court gave her custody.
Anyone listen to the 2nd case? Prokopovich? Anyone else feel like even in this dramatized version you couldn’t vote guilty on that one? I’m not talking about do you think he did it or not, I’m talking about closing the reasonable doubt hole. I don’t think they proved that. Anyone?
The defense talking about how the mother wanted to get her son out of prison then why did she record? She sat on the recording for like what 4 years or more? If you want to get them out so quickly why did she sit on it for 4 years and not tell anyone!?
@@redfin382 because it wouldn’t of helped him like in the end it didn’t as he still committed the murder and planned it all this did was send down the mother of the other three children so maybe the grand mother didn’t want to make her other grand children motherless too. Especially since it wouldn’t id and didn’t help her son.
I blame the courts for the murder. How do you give custody of his daughter to a complete stranger?A woman that had been absent from her life for 6 years?? That was the catalyst that set everything in motion.
so you just don’t want this man to take ANY accountability for premeditated murder he committed and blame it on the courts … weird way to think but go off i guess 😭😭 ??
It actually is the courts fault. Who tf does that. And when you love your kids fr, you won’t mind going to prison behind them. He raised that little girl, that’s his baby. The mom didn’t deserve her and that was clear. She literally went away to the army FOR YEARS, what loving mother does that bs? Our country isn’t worth time away from ya kids.
Mind you, all of this started due to broken and unfair family laws. Not an excuse to kill someone, but think of the results if the daughter hadn’t been given to the mother for no logical reason at all.
WOWWWW. Ashley abandons her child and gets ZERO punishment, and then rewarded with automatic custody when she decides she wants her daughter again? I feel bad for Chad.
No. It didn’t. She had no problem going away to the army, not one person forced her. I’m with Chad on this one. He did it 100% wrong, but his intentions was spot on. He raised that baby girl, not her. She didn’t deserve her.
Question for everyone- Who’s more vile? The nasty Erica who got with her husband’s best friend, or the best friend for taking advantage of Chad’s incarceration and getting with Erica? I believe it’s a photo finish, to use horse racing vernacular, but I believe it’s Chad’s best friend
They’re both trash. They both knew it doesn’t matter if she was involved or not. That his bf woman, mother of his children, you just don’t cross those lines.
Chad’s mother was in on it. He told her about the plan but Erika didn’t know he told his mother. That’s why the recording was made, to use it against Erika if they wanted to. They are all horrible people. And they’ve coached the daughter to add fuel to the fire.
If she would’ve never cheated on Chad he probably would’ve never testified against Erica. He would’ve taken that to his grave knowing that his wife helped him killed Erica.
That man in the 2nd case very well could have done it but they didn't prove it. I watch many crime stories but the amount of cases that I keep seeing convicted without evidence is alarming.
40:10 I’m so curious what this building was.. did they scope it out and knew it had no cameras or did one of them work there? and the fact those little kids were there and asleep in the suv is disturbing and disgusting! they could have seen and heard any of it at any time! 🤬 and I know the mother said she was just wanting to get more time with the granddaughter but why hold back evidence for 4 years in an open yet kinda cold case?! I’m glad the state cut her son no slack I know that I’m also curious if Erica was out on bail or incarcerated during the trial
The "local magistrate" or whoever uprooted this child from the only parent she knew, just to give custody to complete stranger (from the child's point of view) just because she shared DNA, is just as GUILTY, if not legally guilty they are definitely morally guilty. IMO
It's crazy cuz they're acting like they really investigated but they didn't and if he would've got rid of the evidence and him and his family played it cool he would've got away with it
I’m so sick of TH-cam in every single way possible but the censorship of anything evidence related on top of explanations is outta hand. I wish he’d all hopped on Bitchute when we had the chance 🖕soon you won’t be able to say “blood” or “crime” too
Alcohol is disinhibiting, think plied with alcohol. It would be feasible to get someone to say untruthful things while intoxicated as alcohol brings down their guard and people will say and do crazy things while drunk. Usually they become more themselves as they are too loose to keep up the facade they show the world. But also lie to seem bigger than life. Impress.
Im confused. So the child had two dads and one she didnt know and that one was murdered because he won custody of the child and nobody told the dad that originally had cusody?😮💨🤨🤔😮💨
Cindee is trash just like the rest of them, Erica and Chad are disgraceful and deserve jail, but don’t think you’re some saint either. If you really recorded that audio out of the goodness of your heart you would have driven straight to the police not holding out until your son demanded a deal. You only gave it up when the police said no deal ever.
Ashley abandoned her daughter for 6 years and then comes back and gets full custody. That is totally unfair. Fathers are not second-class citizens to be treated so shabbily. Would it have been the same if a father had done it. NO WAY. The court should have granted Ashley visitation and then gradually progressed to 50/50 custody. The court is the principle precipitating factor for this whole crime. I do know what Chad did was evil, though I do understand his reasoning.
Of course the court would grant the mother whom was not a part of the child's life custody over the dad who's been there for the child for her whole life without even notifying him nonetheless.
Whoever made the decision to transfer full custody of the daughter to Ashley, a complete stranger to the child, without telling Chad or consulting with him in any way needs to be investigated thoroughly. What kind of decision was this?
Yeah something about that isn't adding up. I feel like there's more to that story
@@Nagaeem Sometimes I wonder if the courts try to take as many shortcuts as possible with their cases to clear their dockets as quickly as possible, which has to be the cause of these brainless decisions. It cannot be because the courts lack intelligence - judges have to complete law school which requires a basic level of intelligence.
Totally agree. I'm a retired first grade teacher and I can't imagine having one of my students picked up from a person she doesn't even recognize. I think Ashley came home from the service and saw her child as a money grab to get child support. She Is delivering pizzas so, not much money. But the fact that she never contacted he child in years.
Every body is terrible in this case.
The children suffer the most out of the adults stupidity.
It's almost ironic that the high probability of individuals being the stupidest parents is directly proportional to the high probability of individuals being the most successful with fertility. Too bad reproduction does not have some type of built-in biological "skill testing question" to ensure a certain level of brain function is required for conception to take place.
Why murder this woman, just to abuse her child? She was the driving force of the murder, she has zero moral compass and very much a narcissist. They all suck, Chad and his mother included, but I believe they actually loved the children.
His mom is a liar. The reason the child didn't know her is because he had defied their prior custody arrangement and would not allow her to see her.
yep. and it costs money to hold the other parent accountable for keeping the child in spite of a legal custody agreement which aren't as legally strong as most people think.
most people don't have complex family court custody experience so they think police regularly enforce custody agreements. they don't, unless a judge orders police officers to be specifically involved for a single physical exchange. if a kid is held back by the parent and the other parent calls the police, like most people would advise them to, the police will tell the parent that they can't get involved without a court order directing them to get involved.
It takes time & money, even if self representing, to get on the judge's docket. it most often takes multiple hearings before that court order to enforce handover is granted.
It probably took a lot of time and money before Ashley was granted custody after Chad kept the child back for so long. It's likely why so much time went by. I see people implying that Ashley just strolled into court and was granted custody just because she was the mom. that's not how it happens in instances like this one. you're right, it was Chad's fault for isolating the child fully from her mother for so long.
Thank you both for more context. I figured there was more to the story but as you said, I’m like most people and don’t have experience in custody battles.
Yep, they most likely disapproved of Ashley's bisexuality so refused this baby the right to know her biological mom. That's right, THE CHILD'S RIGHT.... So many parents only care about their own right that they stop caring about what's right for the child
I figured that
RIP young lady. I delivered pizzas while in college and as a part time gig for a few years after graduating. I doubt she was nervous at all because you sometimes get different and/or weird requests for certain deliveries. I saw some crazy s*** at times and did have to keep my head on a swivel late at night. This poor girl had no clue. So so senseless.
Those poor kids having such loser parents
51:47 😢 what a strong woman Victoria raised ❤ to make her own organization for missing people instead of just laying down and getting depressed she’s helped so many others and now that I know there’s a missing person month I will do my best to share information and help where I am able.
All these people are horrible hope the children find peace
Ashley Biggs was shocked with a taser, beaten and strangled with a zip tie in 2012.
What a tragic story. All of these children lost their parents. The letters she wrote to her father in prison are heartbreaking. The abuse she was suffering at the hands of her step-mother---that alone should have sent Erica to prison.
Erica Stefanko was convicted of luring Ashley Biggs to a closed business in New Franklin by ordering a pizza to that location. There, Stefanko’s husband Chad Cobb beat and strangled Biggs to death, prosecutors said.
When this happened, nobody could believe it. Particularly chilling was the willingness of Erica to participate.
Child custody cases turn into a sport of only wanting to win at any cost especially when there's a new spouse involved and they team up against the ex.
Does anyone else find it sad that this lady goes and fights for our country and then she becomes a pizza delivery person?
Your first mistake is thinking the Army is sending you to fight for you country. It is sending you to fight for corporations and politicians who benefit from investing in those corporations. War is a billion dollar industry and you are not defending your country when you are being sent to another country across the world. You have no idea what the US army has done to innocent women and children beyond the scope of murder... Then we have the military contracts and mercenary companies.
Do what you gotta do
I quit being a registered nurse then about 4 years later I delivered pizza to make money I like it at the time ,
Well, I bet you'll really freak out when you find out that that's normal even for active duty service members. People don't join the military to get wealthy but unless they are Officer's or high ranked NCO's,(Non Commissioned Officer) the struggle is real especially if you fave a family to feed.
She says it's unbelievable that Erika hooked up... what you expect a woman to do if her husband is in prison for life😂
Agree but she should have realised chad had this info and to kept him sweet a least -
no one deserves to die but ......... wow they just handed this little girl home with a stranger(mom) .......? only 6m in but he got F'd. Not saying killing is justified.
Magistrate gave her custody. Chad got a raw deal
The daughter was being abused before and after her mom's de@th. She was in counseling months before the custody battle started. That's why the court gave her custody.
That literally wasn't on her though???? Blame the court. That "but" means you don't care that she died. and that you have sympathy for him. useless
@@jdepackback that was funny .... nice try tho
@@dizzolve nobody's talking to you🥴
This guy was selfish he abandoned 3 children for one child
His thoughts were that he rather spend his life in prison then his daughter spend one more sec with ashley .
Anyone listen to the 2nd case? Prokopovich? Anyone else feel like even in this dramatized version you couldn’t vote guilty on that one? I’m not talking about do you think he did it or not, I’m talking about closing the reasonable doubt hole. I don’t think they proved that. Anyone?
He did it, but you are correct!
I agree. I think he did it but at least based on what we saw of the trial I don't think I could have voted guilty.
The defense talking about how the mother wanted to get her son out of prison then why did she record? She sat on the recording for like what 4 years or more? If you want to get them out so quickly why did she sit on it for 4 years and not tell anyone!?
@@redfin382 because it wouldn’t of helped him like in the end it didn’t as he still committed the murder and planned it all this did was send down the mother of the other three children so maybe the grand mother didn’t want to make her other grand children motherless too. Especially since it wouldn’t id and didn’t help her son.
I blame the courts for the murder. How do you give custody of his daughter to a complete stranger?A woman that had been absent from her life for 6 years?? That was the catalyst that set everything in motion.
so you just don’t want this man to take ANY accountability for premeditated murder he committed and blame it on the courts … weird way to think but go off i guess 😭😭 ??
Yeah it is pretty crazy
It actually is the courts fault. Who tf does that. And when you love your kids fr, you won’t mind going to prison behind them. He raised that little girl, that’s his baby. The mom didn’t deserve her and that was clear. She literally went away to the army FOR YEARS, what loving mother does that bs? Our country isn’t worth time away from ya kids.
Mind you, all of this started due to broken and unfair family laws. Not an excuse to kill someone, but think of the results if the daughter hadn’t been given to the mother for no logical reason at all.
Who lets a child go with a woman she don’t even know smh the system is crazy
Shows u court doesn't care about kids
Isn't this a repost? Did Law&Crime post this video not so long ago?
Just looked it up, and yeah, they did 5 months ago...
WOWWWW. Ashley abandons her child and gets ZERO punishment, and then rewarded with automatic custody when she decides she wants her daughter again? I feel bad for Chad.
This.
You do realize that that came from the killer mom
No. It didn’t. She had no problem going away to the army, not one person forced her. I’m with Chad on this one. He did it 100% wrong, but his intentions was spot on. He raised that baby girl, not her. She didn’t deserve her.
I feel bad for Erika, she just did what Chad asked.
Please stop pixelating! We're all adults.
Question for everyone- Who’s more vile? The nasty Erica who got with her husband’s best friend, or the best friend for taking advantage of Chad’s incarceration and getting with Erica? I believe it’s a photo finish, to use horse racing vernacular, but I believe it’s Chad’s best friend
for me i guess it would depend on whether or not he was aware erica was involved. they're both trash either way tho
They’re both trash. They both knew it doesn’t matter if she was involved or not. That his bf woman, mother of his children, you just don’t cross those lines.
Courts had a hand in this murder.
Courts are always a part of these murders when they decide wrong and should be held responsible when they give the child to the wrong parent.
It's 2024 how do not have an update on the sentencing for the first story????
Chad’s mother was in on it. He told her about the plan but Erika didn’t know he told his mother. That’s why the recording was made, to use it against Erika if they wanted to. They are all horrible people. And they’ve coached the daughter to add fuel to the fire.
but she did make call
I love how Grandma allowed her granddaughter to live with someone who was involved in murder
How many times you guys gonna upload this?
If she would’ve never cheated on Chad he probably would’ve never testified against Erica.
He would’ve taken that to his grave knowing that his wife helped him killed Erica.
She also abused his daughter for years
That man in the 2nd case very well could have done it but they didn't prove it. I watch many crime stories but the amount of cases that I keep seeing convicted without evidence is alarming.
40:10 I’m so curious what this building was.. did they scope it out and knew it had no cameras or did one of them work there? and the fact those little kids were there and asleep in the suv is disturbing and disgusting! they could have seen and heard any of it at any time! 🤬 and I know the mother said she was just wanting to get more time with the granddaughter but why hold back evidence for 4 years in an open yet kinda cold case?! I’m glad the state cut her son no slack I know that I’m also curious if Erica was out on bail or incarcerated during the trial
A court just doesnt take a child away after 6 years of full custody from someone and not tell the parent
Why would you not turn over the confession tape?? Seems very strange. Mrs Cobb seems strange too on why she does what she does
He's definitely spiteful I think she was involved but I'm not convinced she did the deed.
The "local magistrate" or whoever uprooted this child from the only parent she knew, just to give custody to complete stranger (from the child's point of view) just because she shared DNA, is just as GUILTY, if not legally guilty they are definitely morally guilty. IMO
This town is a small town, it shook a lot of people in this county when this happened.
It's crazy cuz they're acting like they really investigated but they didn't and if he would've got rid of the evidence and him and his family played it cool he would've got away with it
Not me getting a Dominos delivery ad during this video…
Chad needs no sympathy, now baby girl has no one.
She still have her grandma.
@@DottonTuffinnot the same.
Rip ashley and victoria
lol police logic saying no three times means yes
No way they proved the second case!
If this ain’t the true definition of “the grass is not greener on the other side “!
This story is as old as the hills.
Sorry but a grown man wouldn’t need gloves with spikes…
Ashley was given instant full custody of the child, because having served her country gave her some clout ??
At first glance I legitimately thought it was Ellen on the thumbnail
The state/courts played a big part in causing this one
I’m so sick of TH-cam in every single way possible but the censorship of anything evidence related on top of explanations is outta hand. I wish he’d all hopped on Bitchute when we had the chance 🖕soon you won’t be able to say “blood” or “crime” too
Ohio....🙄
Sorry but I feel sorry for Chad and obviously the kids the family not Ashley at all
En vino veritas. I'm not sure why it mattered how much she drank before being recorded.
Alcohol is disinhibiting, think plied with alcohol. It would be feasible to get someone to say untruthful things while intoxicated as alcohol brings down their guard and people will say and do crazy things while drunk. Usually they become more themselves as they are too loose to keep up the facade they show the world. But also lie to seem bigger than life. Impress.
I cringed when I saw his Green Bay Packers hat!!😮
Woman these days aren't the best of options flr kids. More fathers put their kids first than woman in many cases . Sad events
She abandoned the child but wanted to take it from him. The child didn't even know the mom. I can't blame Jim
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Im confused. So the child had two dads and one she didnt know and that one was murdered because he won custody of the child and nobody told the dad that originally had cusody?😮💨🤨🤔😮💨
Without a deal. I wouldn't have helped
Cindee is trash just like the rest of them, Erica and Chad are disgraceful and deserve jail, but don’t think you’re some saint either. If you really recorded that audio out of the goodness of your heart you would have driven straight to the police not holding out until your son demanded a deal. You only gave it up when the police said no deal ever.
Is this Dominic voice narrating
This was a bad verdict
Ashley abandoned her daughter for 6 years and then comes back and gets full custody. That is totally unfair. Fathers are not second-class citizens to be treated so shabbily. Would it have been the same if a father had done it. NO WAY. The court should have granted Ashley visitation and then gradually progressed to 50/50 custody. The court is the principle precipitating factor for this whole crime. I do know what Chad did was evil, though I do understand his reasoning.
Finally someone with some sense!!!!
Police 😮
The mom is a liar
The masking looks so freaking ridiculous.
I t disturbs me, with what we know now. I cringe for Fauci's victims.
Of course the court would grant the mother whom was not a part of the child's life custody over the dad who's been there for the child for her whole life without even notifying him nonetheless.
I stand with the husband on this. How dare the system drain him financially and then give custody to that lesbian.
Disgusting comment to make. Homophobic, much?
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I’m only here because I got dominoes pizza tonight… I’m petrified!😮
At first glance I legitimately thought it was Ellen on the thumbnail