Caitlin Clark 2.0 Between Patrick Mahomes multiple Superbowl rings and Lamar's multiple MVP's white media will ensure Josh Allen is acknowledged. They take it personal.
@@Benzy-d3u Their narrative is Josh carried a team that wasn't supposed to make the playoffs. The Ravens have 9 pro bowlers including Derrick Henry. The Bills have 2. Their logic is the Ravens would have still been decent without Lamar. Take Josh Allen away from the Bills and they're not as competitive. Stats alone don't guarantee the MVP. Josh had better stats than Lamar last year and Lamar still won. I don't agree but they have a legitimate case. 9 Pro Bowlers makes it seem like he was on an All Star team even though he is partly responsible for the offensive Pro Bowlers success including Derrick Henry.
@RotweilerScholar I believe LaMar just put together a season where his QB rating was top 5 in history! This is one of the best seasons a QB has ever had statistically. I like Allen too, so it's not a knock on him, but Jackson had a historic year.
Josh Allen has been awesome this season but why is the media acting like we’ve never seen elite QBs do more with less? Lamar is literally having a HISTORIC season and doing things we’ve never seen. Why is this even a debate?
Only if he gives back the 2023 to Allen, because he stole the MVP from Allen last year and Lamar didn't deserved it. Now he has a lot better case, but he must pay the p[rice for unfair accorded MVP last year.
@@nobodyjustme9164 We can’t say he stole it from him when Allen had 22 turnovers with 18 interceptions. That was the knock on Allen with the numbers he had last year. Lamar numbers were much cleaner than Allen's. Allen is still a good player.
@@nobodyjustme9164Allen came in FIFTH place because of his 22 TOs. Not to mention that 5 of his 6 losses were against non playoff teams. Yall have actually convinced yourselves that Allen got robbed😭
@TopTierHater you forgot to say Buffalo is has a better record this year and Josh has less talent around him. Bills would be screwed without Josh Ravens still have Derrick Henry. Josh is easily more important to the Bills
I hope they don’t give Lamar MVP just so he can get mad and kill everyone in the playoffs 😂😂😂 He’s even more dangerous when he piss and feels counted out.
Pissed in Buffalo?? And the mental issues appeal lol.. Bills are more pissed because tired of hearing week 4 against Ravens and Home in Tundra, cold Blizzard weather Josh vs LJ?? Even though Bills have lack of talents around him, Allen does not care and will pass the ball in any circumstance and over power LJ!!!
As a bills fan Lamar deserves it I don’t even want Josh to get it Stay the underdog It’s better And the last thing you want is to have Josh get it then get their assses kicked by Baltimore again Not a good look
The Bills need to break through one of these years and get to the Super Bowl. Can they go into Kansas City and beat the Chiefs in the playoffs? Can they? That's what it comes down to.
😂😂😂😂 we lost to the ravens and very good playoff team. They lost to the raiders and the browns. Bottom feeders in the league. Bills beat both #1 seeds in each conference. Josh allen has done far more with far less. It's Most valuable player, not just best stats 😂
So it ruined QBR 121 #2 lol against Browns who is 20 points underdog… talk stats forever and he will be known as best stats but not winning MVP!! How that performance against JV improve his stand?? Allen is a Clearly a MVP!!! #3 QB in AFC those voters are worthless??? lol 😆 #1 starter for AFC
Only if he gives back the 2023 to Allen, because he stole the MVP from Allen last year and Lamar didn't deserved it. Now he has a lot better case, but he must pay the p[rice for unfair accorded MVP last year.
@@nobodyjustme9164 so let me get this straight he “stole” the 2023 MVP award from Allen who received 1 out of 50 votes. So no other person aside from Dan O, the same guy who tried to keep a play alive after running out the back of the end-zone, agreed with you… Yea ok… But let’s compare shall we, in 2023 Lamar threw for 3678, 24tds and just 7 ints all with a 102.7 passer rating… Allen meanwhile went for 4306, 29tds, 18ints and a passer rating of 92.2 but yea his stats were so much better😑. Lamar won because he not only plays in the hardest division but also had the #1 seed. He also went head-to-head with not just 1 or 2 but ever top team that year and outshined/played everyone. Also, let’s not forget he did it all in prime time too having something like a 10-2 record against playoff teams. Something that had never happened before. All this and I didn’t even account for what he did on the ground as well…. But yea, go off🤣, cuz he stole the MVP🙄
@@ThatguyBMCreally he won is his play was on a different level of his stats some of them quarterbacks getting end of the game yards when the winning team don’t care bout yards because they up and took they starters out Lamar had plenty games where he didn’t play the hole game because they be up so mich
It’s obvious that for this season there have been a concerted effort to make this regular season MVP award into a "MVPetty/Sympathy award" for JOSH ALLEN. Selecting 9 RAVENS players for the pro-bowl is also part of the strategy to influence voters of the MVP award and/or to justify giving ALLEN this MVPetty/Sympathy award based on spurious claims such as that ALLEN accomplished more with less while overlooking that LAMAR’S RAVENS was gutted of 70 percent of its coaching staff , lost top starting players to other NFL teams AND for 13 games had the WORST defense in the league, which humbled the Bills in a head-to-head clash. How does the RAVEN DANIELLE FAALELE (the WORST player in their O-LINE) who is ranked 69/130 as a blocker gets selected for the pro-bowl???
Them saying Lamar shouldn't get MVP despite this historic season is like Peewee leagues giving everyone a trophy. Josh Allen played half of their games against teams that are below .500. This a competitive sport, not the kiddie league. Lamar has been blasted for not using his line and being a "running back" and he can't throw. Now that he's shown that he is a passer and can defeat elite teams, he still gets criticism. He has stepped up this year and brought his TEAM with him. Look at their schedules this year and whose was the toughest? Stop playing with Lamar.
@armanibrown5446 didn't the ravens blew out the bills 35-10? and josh was 16/29 with no tds? And lamar had 2 tds in the air and another on the ground 😅 hit the showers my guy
LaMar Jackson should win his third MVP, but the bottom line is that he hasn't gotten the job done in the playoffs. He has to lead his team to the Super Bowl and win it to get the ultimate respect.
@Fitefears That may be true, but LaMar keeps winning the MVPs. That means there's pressure on him to show he was worthy of those MVPs. He has to lead his team to the Super Bowl and win it. That would take his status to the top of the league. Legacy time!
@Stargelly_Kubrick Regardless of the MVP award, LaMar as a QB has one of the best winning percentages in the NFL since he's been in the league in the regular season. He hasn't gotten it done in the playoffs. He needs to get to a Super Bowl, and win it.
@@Benzy-d3u bro you act like he's just had this great team he kept coming up short with. He's been a lone wolf most his career which isn't hard to game plan around. Playoffs and regular season are different. He has options now so let's just see what he does now that his team matches up well against his peers now. Cam went through this as well. Why compare them to their peers when they don't have the lvl of help as their peers. Why did we compare cam and Russ when Russ came in to a ready made playoff team while cams was below avg? We did that to Lamar as well but let's see what he can do with some help now
@nathanwells9136 Yours is an opinion also. Since Brady is one of the greatest to ever play the game, his opinion carries more weight than does yours. And it wasn't an opinion. The tape clearly shows Bateman stopped running. Had he continued through the route, the ball would not have been picked off.
They can give the MVP to Josh Allen, but remember there is a good chance Lamar will play the Bills again in the playoffs. It is not so much that Lamar will be upset; however, his teammates will be extremely upset and looking for vengeance.
@goatman380 my guy the jets have more wins stop tryna make it seem like both teams aren't ass, the Ravens destroyed a trash team so stop tryna make it seem more impressive than what it is
Argument 1: Lamar should win because his stats are better than Josh's even though Josh's team has a better record and Josh has so much less to work with (2 pro bowlers vs 9). Argument 2: Lamar should win over Borrows even though Burrow's arguably has better numbers. Why? Lamar's team has a better record. I see a contradiction here. I smell the same sort of bias I sensed when Jokic was denied his deserved MVP 2 years ago. Ryan Clark: "I've been saying Lamar is MVP for WEEKS". Tell us you're biased without telling us you're biased. Josh Allen should win the MVP. He will be denied because of the pressure exerted by ESPN. Same exact thing that happened to Joker.
pro bowlers is not a argument. you a casual if you think its valid. some of the best players in their positions didnt even make the pro bowl. brian thomas the next future wide receive superstar got snubbed for zay flowers from baltimore.falelle who played if we being nice average got the pro bowl maybe the weakest bal oline player 😂😭. Justin tucker for the ravens made the pro bowl the guy who cost them like 2-3 games. they gave pro bowl spots to ravens which other guys deserved dont know why though
argument 2 makes no sense aswell. burrow and lamars stats are like neck to neck total yards both have over 5k and they have the same amount of total tds. they in the same division and ravens beat them twice and won the division. sp that s a valid argument why they have him above burrow. also bills have a way esier shedule and only have after tommorow 1 or 2 more win while playing against only 6 playoff teams compared to 10. but i still think its obvious burrow and mahomes are better then lamar and allen. because when it matters most pocket qbs will always have more sucess then dual threats history shows it. just because allen and lamar look more spectacular doesnt make it better
@@DD-rk6kn Nonsense. What you got to work with is a huge factor in your relative value to a team. Remove Allen from the Bills and replace him with an average QB and you got a huge collapse on your hands. Do the same with the Ravens and you arguably still have a winning team. Why? Surrounding talent. Allen deserves MVP. Lamar should get offensive player of the year.....or maybe Burrows.
@@slimsmith4698 the pressure of going 16/32 vs third stringers. Yeah bud. You're right. The hall of Fame RB and play calling has no bearing lol. I must be mistaken. 2-4 in the playoffs with a completion % of 56 and a pathetic 75 QBR. Shitty passer rating ... 9tds 9 Turnovers. But it's everybody else's fault except for Lamar. Y'all are blind witnesses it's hilarious. The AFCC is what Lamar is. A guy that can't win with his arm. Is he a great athlete. sure.
MVP is an in-season award. It is determined before the Superbowl. Lamar Jackson is the MVP for this award!!! There is another MVP for winning Superbowl. Jackson will probably win that this year, too.
LaMar Jackson has to be the MVP again. 4,000+ yards passing, 41TD passes, 4INTs, 900+ yards rushing, 4 rushing TDS. This has to be his third MVP.
Caitlin Clark 2.0 Between Patrick Mahomes multiple Superbowl rings and Lamar's multiple MVP's white media will ensure Josh Allen is acknowledged. They take it personal.
@@RotweilerScholar I disagree. LaMar Jackson's stats are much better than Allen's stats. They can't steal it from him.
@@Benzy-d3u Their narrative is Josh carried a team that wasn't supposed to make the playoffs. The Ravens have 9 pro bowlers including Derrick Henry. The Bills have 2. Their logic is the Ravens would have still been decent without Lamar. Take Josh Allen away from the Bills and they're not as competitive. Stats alone don't guarantee the MVP. Josh had better stats than Lamar last year and Lamar still won. I don't agree but they have a legitimate case. 9 Pro Bowlers makes it seem like he was on an All Star team even though he is partly responsible for the offensive Pro Bowlers success including Derrick Henry.
@RotweilerScholar I believe LaMar just put together a season where his QB rating was top 5 in history! This is one of the best seasons a QB has ever had statistically. I like Allen too, so it's not a knock on him, but Jackson had a historic year.
@@RotweilerScholar 😭😭😭😭🤣
Josh Allen has been awesome this season but why is the media acting like we’ve never seen elite QBs do more with less?
Lamar is literally having a HISTORIC season and doing things we’ve never seen. Why is this even a debate?
Only if he gives back the 2023 to Allen, because he stole the MVP from Allen last year and Lamar didn't deserved it. Now he has a lot better case, but he must pay the p[rice for unfair accorded MVP last year.
@@nobodyjustme9164Allen was 5th last year. Damn bills fans are stupid
@@nobodyjustme9164 We can’t say he stole it from him when Allen had 22 turnovers with 18 interceptions. That was the knock on Allen with the numbers he had last year. Lamar numbers were much cleaner than Allen's. Allen is still a good player.
@@nobodyjustme9164Allen came in FIFTH place because of his 22 TOs. Not to mention that 5 of his 6 losses were against non playoff teams. Yall have actually convinced yourselves that Allen got robbed😭
@TopTierHater you forgot to say Buffalo is has a better record this year and Josh has less talent around him. Bills would be screwed without Josh Ravens still have Derrick Henry. Josh is easily more important to the Bills
I hope they don’t give Lamar MVP just so he can get mad and kill everyone in the playoffs 😂😂😂 He’s even more dangerous when he piss and feels counted out.
@@RelentlessENT23 That may work bro
Why would lamar care about not winning mvp
Haha something he's never done before lol
Pissed in Buffalo?? And the mental issues appeal lol.. Bills are more pissed because tired of hearing week 4 against Ravens and Home in Tundra, cold Blizzard weather Josh vs LJ?? Even though Bills have lack of talents around him, Allen does not care and will pass the ball in any circumstance and over power LJ!!!
@NewYorkNYKer like josh did in the 35-10 blow out. 😅😂
As a bills fan
Lamar deserves it
I don’t even want Josh to get it
Stay the underdog
It’s better
And the last thing you want is to have Josh get it then get their assses kicked by Baltimore again
Not a good look
The Bills need to break through one of these years and get to the Super Bowl. Can they go into Kansas City and beat the Chiefs in the playoffs? Can they? That's what it comes down to.
😂😂😂😂 we lost to the ravens and very good playoff team. They lost to the raiders and the browns. Bottom feeders in the league. Bills beat both #1 seeds in each conference. Josh allen has done far more with far less. It's Most valuable player, not just best stats 😂
@brycebetsch587 Now it's the done far more with far less award?? Don't worry about the stats? 🤣🤣
TOP 5 ALL-TIME PASSER RATING(119.6) FOR A DIVISION WINNER = LAMAR JACKSON#8 SHOULD BE THE UNANIMOUS 2024 NFL MVP ..
So it ruined QBR 121 #2 lol against Browns who is 20 points underdog… talk stats forever and he will be known as best stats but not winning MVP!! How that performance against JV improve his stand?? Allen is a Clearly a MVP!!! #3 QB in AFC those voters are worthless??? lol 😆 #1 starter for AFC
Only if he gives back the 2023 to Allen, because he stole the MVP from Allen last year and Lamar didn't deserved it. Now he has a lot better case, but he must pay the p[rice for unfair accorded MVP last year.
@@nobodyjustme9164 so let me get this straight he “stole” the 2023 MVP award from Allen who received 1 out of 50 votes. So no other person aside from Dan O, the same guy who tried to keep a play alive after running out the back of the end-zone, agreed with you… Yea ok… But let’s compare shall we, in 2023 Lamar threw for 3678, 24tds and just 7 ints all with a 102.7 passer rating… Allen meanwhile went for 4306, 29tds, 18ints and a passer rating of 92.2 but yea his stats were so much better😑. Lamar won because he not only plays in the hardest division but also had the #1 seed. He also went head-to-head with not just 1 or 2 but ever top team that year and outshined/played everyone. Also, let’s not forget he did it all in prime time too having something like a 10-2 record against playoff teams. Something that had never happened before. All this and I didn’t even account for what he did on the ground as well…. But yea, go off🤣, cuz he stole the MVP🙄
@@nobodyjustme9164no he didn’t u can’t be mvp throwing 18 ints have double digit fumbles
@@ThatguyBMCreally he won is his play was on a different level of his stats some of them quarterbacks getting end of the game yards when the winning team don’t care bout yards because they up and took they starters out Lamar had plenty games where he didn’t play the hole game because they be up so mich
It’s obvious that for this season there have been a concerted effort to make this regular season MVP award into a "MVPetty/Sympathy award" for JOSH ALLEN. Selecting 9 RAVENS players for the pro-bowl is also part of the strategy to influence voters of the MVP award and/or to justify giving ALLEN this MVPetty/Sympathy award based on spurious claims such as that ALLEN accomplished more with less while overlooking that LAMAR’S RAVENS was gutted of 70 percent of its coaching staff , lost top starting players to other NFL teams AND for 13 games had the WORST defense in the league, which humbled the Bills in a head-to-head clash. How does the RAVEN DANIELLE FAALELE (the WORST player in their O-LINE) who is ranked 69/130 as a blocker gets selected for the pro-bowl???
Faalele so trash 🤦🏽♂️
lmfao you guys are fucking hilarous
Them saying Lamar shouldn't get MVP despite this historic season is like Peewee leagues giving everyone a trophy. Josh Allen played half of their games against teams that are below .500. This a competitive sport, not the kiddie league. Lamar has been blasted for not using his line and being a "running back" and he can't throw. Now that he's shown that he is a passer and can defeat elite teams, he still gets criticism. He has stepped up this year and brought his TEAM with him. Look at their schedules this year and whose was the toughest? Stop playing with Lamar.
Lamar is MVP because he beat every team that's going to the playoffs
Not KC, not Philly....
@@Anthony327Fonly team Lamar haven’t beat yet is kc
This Man just had the Best Single Season in the History of football💯
So why the Media acting like anyone can compete with this Man at all this Sason.
Didnt josh allen go 9/30 😂?
Facts 😅
How many weeks ago? And you still talking about it?
@armanibrown5446 mvp is a regular season award so yeah we talking about the regular season
@daddybaker1586 I'd rather go 9/30 against a good team then to lose to trash ass teams then use SOS as an excuse for it
@armanibrown5446 didn't the ravens blew out the bills 35-10? and josh was 16/29 with no tds? And lamar had 2 tds in the air and another on the ground 😅 hit the showers my guy
Lamar thru for 4000+ yards, 40TDs while having a back run for 1950 yards is insane
LaMar Jackson should win his third MVP, but the bottom line is that he hasn't gotten the job done in the playoffs. He has to lead his team to the Super Bowl and win it to get the ultimate respect.
Neither has any of his other contemporaries. Besides Joe burrow. It’s been all mahomes
@Fitefears That may be true, but LaMar keeps winning the MVPs. That means there's pressure on him to show he was worthy of those MVPs. He has to lead his team to the Super Bowl and win it. That would take his status to the top of the league. Legacy time!
@@Benzy-d3uthat’s media pushed, the list not deep of the mvps winning the superbowl same season
@Stargelly_Kubrick Regardless of the MVP award, LaMar as a QB has one of the best winning percentages in the NFL since he's been in the league in the regular season. He hasn't gotten it done in the playoffs. He needs to get to a Super Bowl, and win it.
@@Benzy-d3u bro you act like he's just had this great team he kept coming up short with. He's been a lone wolf most his career which isn't hard to game plan around. Playoffs and regular season are different. He has options now so let's just see what he does now that his team matches up well against his peers now. Cam went through this as well. Why compare them to their peers when they don't have the lvl of help as their peers. Why did we compare cam and Russ when Russ came in to a ready made playoff team while cams was below avg? We did that to Lamar as well but let's see what he can do with some help now
None of the 4 INTs were Lamar's fault.
@nathanwells9136 Bateman cut the route off. Lamar threw the ball to a spot. Bateman stopped running.
On the broadcast, Tom Brady said the same thing.
@nathanwells9136 Brady thought differently than you. He knows the game better than you.
@nathanwells9136 Yours is an opinion also. Since Brady is one of the greatest to ever play the game, his opinion carries more weight than does yours. And it wasn't an opinion. The tape clearly shows Bateman stopped running. Had he continued through the route, the ball would not have been picked off.
@nathanwells9136 What you said has no substance and doesn't support your opinion. His expression was a disappointment in the turnover.
They can give the MVP to Josh Allen, but remember there is a good chance Lamar will play the Bills again in the playoffs. It is not so much that Lamar will be upset; however, his teammates will be extremely upset and looking for vengeance.
Didn't Lamar out do Josh Allen this season I believe Baltimore Ravens blew out the Bills this season . Lamar is MVP
lamar or joe is a good choice
Facts 💯
Even Barkley.
ALLEN PLAYED GOOD ALL YEAR?!?! Bro all I gotta say is 9/30 😑 ended up on the bench
Why does nobody ever talk about fumbles when were talking about QB stats?
Because it’s more of a ball carrier stat.
If the Ravens would have used Henry the way they had too he would have had 2k.
The second round will determine who eveyone will say the MVP is b/c it should be Lamar vs. Josh... Ravens vs. Bills
The big man!
Mvp My Quarterback Lamar
So Buffalo beats the jets-" just a tradh jets team"
Ravens beat browns-"HES MVP"
@@armanibrown5446 the browns are better than the jets. The browns had a bad injury bug this season.
@goatman380 my guy the jets have more wins stop tryna make it seem like both teams aren't ass, the Ravens destroyed a trash team so stop tryna make it seem more impressive than what it is
How about the bills got ran out of the stadium when they played
Its hilarious because Lamar has more seasons tto break that passer rating record
Lamar Jordan
Just give them both tired of all the comparisons
Steeler receivers got the drowsiness too
Argument 1:
Lamar should win because his stats are better than Josh's even though Josh's team has a better record and Josh has so much less to work with (2 pro bowlers vs 9).
Argument 2:
Lamar should win over Borrows even though Burrow's arguably has better numbers. Why? Lamar's team has a better record.
I see a contradiction here. I smell the same sort of bias I sensed when Jokic was denied his deserved MVP 2 years ago.
Ryan Clark:
"I've been saying Lamar is MVP for WEEKS".
Tell us you're biased without telling us you're biased.
Josh Allen should win the MVP. He will be denied because of the pressure exerted by ESPN. Same exact thing that happened to Joker.
Can't take away a finals MVP or SB though. As hard as they might. It's there forever.
pro bowlers is not a argument. you a casual if you think its valid. some of the best players in their positions didnt even make the pro bowl. brian thomas the next future wide receive superstar got snubbed for zay flowers from baltimore.falelle who played if we being nice average got the pro bowl maybe the weakest bal oline player 😂😭. Justin tucker for the ravens made the pro bowl the guy who cost them like 2-3 games. they gave pro bowl spots to ravens which other guys deserved dont know why though
argument 2 makes no sense aswell. burrow and lamars stats are like neck to neck total yards both have over 5k and they have the same amount of total tds. they in the same division and ravens beat them twice and won the division. sp that s a valid argument why they have him above burrow. also bills have a way esier shedule and only have after tommorow 1 or 2 more win while playing against only 6 playoff teams compared to 10. but i still think its obvious burrow and mahomes are better then lamar and allen. because when it matters most pocket qbs will always have more sucess then dual threats history shows it. just because allen and lamar look more spectacular doesnt make it better
@@DD-rk6knyou can’t hold someone’s schedule against them it’s out of there control…but everything else makes sense
@@DD-rk6kn Nonsense. What you got to work with is a huge factor in your relative value to a team. Remove Allen from the Bills and replace him with an average QB and you got a huge collapse on your hands. Do the same with the Ravens and you arguably still have a winning team. Why? Surrounding talent.
Allen deserves MVP. Lamar should get offensive player of the year.....or maybe Burrows.
Showing Henry dominate,and the easiest td pass you could possibly have. But yep thats your mvp.
because the pressure LJ puts on defenses kills them but you wouldn't understand 🤦🤣
@@slimsmith4698 facts
@@HockeyDudeJames2 get a life. You are on EVERY post you can find slighting Lamar. Weird af.🤣
@@slimsmith4698 the pressure of going 16/32 vs third stringers. Yeah bud. You're right. The hall of Fame RB and play calling has no bearing lol. I must be mistaken. 2-4 in the playoffs with a completion % of 56 and a pathetic 75 QBR. Shitty passer rating ... 9tds 9 Turnovers. But it's everybody else's fault except for Lamar. Y'all are blind witnesses it's hilarious. The AFCC is what Lamar is. A guy that can't win with his arm. Is he a great athlete. sure.
@@HockeyDudeJames2 How many passes were dropped?
He can’t win a third MVP until he wins a championship!!
Thats not how its supposed to work😂
so why did peyton manning have 3 before his first super bowl 🤔
It's a regular season award.
MVP is an in-season award. It is determined before the Superbowl. Lamar Jackson is the MVP for this award!!!
There is another MVP for winning Superbowl. Jackson will probably win that this year, too.
Stay away from football you bum