wow - amazing stuff...analysis and breakdown of the reasons why each piece works - then gets stopped from working...then how to restart it again...too good!
Thank you 🤗 with Corvus Artemis will be in range of Jorgen and Faceless brings Luther back. Luther stunns the last hero, so it should be Martha. Lilith works in that combo too. Its also possible to use yasmine with Astaroth, she will be resurrected. I hope this helped a little 🙂
Thank you very much 🙂 yes, especially the crit rng makes it unpredictable. And the stun interrupts often other ultimates. Very nice and strong 💪but Fafnir can be used with many other heroes 😉
Hello and thank you for your content! Im on a mission given by our server and guildmates to strike down FARTs with my Ziri, Amira, Faceless. +2. :) Tried Celeste and second tank Asta. Not working. Wanna switch to Jorgen, Martha. What skins, glyphs, artifacts on them to prefer, please? :)
Thanks for your nice comment 🙂👍 Ziri Jorgen Amira Faceless Lian is a good option for Luther FARTs Ziri Asta Satori Amira Aidan for many other setups And also Asta/Cleaver Jorgen Xesha Amira Aidan Main stat is important for "anti-crit" Health to survive Armor is also important for native Arte armor penetration ~16k And of course max Artefact weapons (amira wouldn't need it against that line) If you have no Faceless superskin then many combos won't work but I told you some alternatives 🙃 JJI amira is good against Chabba Julius
oh, thank you so much for quick answer! youre amazing!@@herowarssuddendeath So no healer needed in Lian setup? Im not that far in game to have access to all of them :) Was pampering my mystics :)
No problem 👍 and thank you 🙂 It's a quite difficult setup with many variations. Martha can be used sometimes but it works not that properly. It depends also on your opponents strength. Aidan is here really nice and more useful because his shields trigger passivly when you drop under 30% life. It's nearly made to counter Artemis a little 🙂
Great Video. I really like your Style oder Videos and how much Tine and work you put into them. What about using jhu and nebula to kill fafnir super fast?
Thank you very much 🙂 Fafnir has a lot of life and jhu can't kill him so quickly. It loads him even super fast and your enemy gets fast a double sword buff. But with Jorgen + physicals with lillte splash dmg you can redirect all those attacks to him and kill him immediately.
So I'm not sure I understand the Tristan part of the synergy. Could someone explain it? I'm currently running Luther with F and Ar who has stun. I can't evolve Tristan from the hydra shop because I have not 6 decent guild.
Luther is an honor hero, so Artemis gets more arrows for her ult and Tristans energy burning gets also 1 shot more. So the most synergy effect in the classic way is with Luther Galahad 🙂 Luthers jump stuns normally the last hero, so you can even oneshot the last hero with a good smart arrow.
@michaelstora70 ah okay 🙃 yeah Tristan is one key hero. He provides with his artefact weapon the amor penetration for the entire team. And his crazy bonus energy allows to have overlapping buffs. At max very important and essentiell. Luther and all other heroes are doing a lot of damage (armor reduces the dmg dramatically and all tanks have 0)
Dang bro I love the fact that I have a Cleaver maxed out even though my Artemis team is low right now soon..... May have questions later as I test it out
One thing I have these counters the only one that is low is my peppy... Do you think a little bit low peppy would be a disadvantage? Every other hero is very decently leveled
She has at max highest MP, so she is always the target of the energy steal. For her dmg she doesn't need it. But she needs max life to survive a crit of smart arrow. If your Faceless has more MP then he will be the target. Could work. You can even go with Astaroth instead of Peppy. Works too but sometimes you have timeout problems because of the energysteal on faceless. Btw against lower Artemis is sometimes even harder
Yes, but it doesn't work for all tanks. For example with Galahad it works for any other tank (because of his charge). For example with Corvus (except with Galahad) it doesn't work.
Not so many players have Cleaver [I've seen folks who play this game for about 4 years and haven't got him] Which is unfortunate, cos' he makes it significantly easier to counter this team. We tried Ziri, to no great success, but perhaps should look closer one more time. May be with other heroes results would be better. What we found is that Satori + Celeste often work good, IF Satori's Mag Pen is lower than Celeste has, cos' Tristan drops the soap in front of fox even faster than Galahad... Usually need 2 tanking heroes there. Furthermore, Ginger + Fafnir + Jorgen + Dorian work very well too, cos' Ginger is a backline hero, which means that Jorgen does not take away Dorian's vamp-aura from her. So she can stay alive and kill Faf and Artemis through Jorgen's Leper skill. Word of note is - you gonna need one tough Jorgen for this to work... Many players like to keep him underleveled, to gain energy faster, but in this case "thin" Jorgen won't do any good. We also got the idea that Amira can help, but our genie-lady is still quite small. Besides, she tends to do quite poorly vs TristArFaf if they have Seb there. So you still kinda need sort of Plan B when using Amira. In any case, thank you for your vids mate, they are both insightful and entertaining. Keep it up, friend!
Thanks for your thoughts 🙂👍 it's just a very very good team with some rng. Cleaver is just very good because of the highest main stat and some selfhealing. Ziri ist not bad but Tristan is awesome. Amira helps to burn at least some of their energy 50%. So your Ziri has more time to activate her ult without the burry
Any update for current meta? I want to have a team coutner for FAT lineup with mystic hero. My damage dealer is satori + Asta Celeste Amira Marthar. Should I change anyone to get it better and hardcoutner for FAT? Replace Marthar by Lian? Please help, thanks so much !
The class skills and improved glyphs make a big difference now 🙃 You have to be careful with Amira now if your opponent has upgraded fafnirs health glyph. Very suprising 😅 Lian helps only if you fight against Luther TAF and you need a good artefact weapon for her and life must be higher than artemis crit. You have to look what's the problem in your team. Tristans energy burn goes to highest magic penetration, amira, satori or celeste? Normally you play with Jorgen to stop the energy gaining and faceless to get at him the energy burning + his throw allows to reach artemis often too with jorgen. When amiras gold explode with MA buff then you are mostly done but we got many HP talsimans, so that make Amira less effective. Satori kills not always wverything dependent on the life. Before runes update you needed 5 marks, so 5 mystics or to wait until ~1:30 when he used his aoe attack again
@@herowarssuddendeath tristan now burn energy of my satori cause i max his MA glyph and artifact book. So i need someone else to deal damage beside that. I wonder should i left amirra out, jorgen in (that my team before i add amira) and only do satori is the damage dealer. So many things have to consider == If i give up on amira and only do satori, what lineup should I invest? Satori celeste jorgen marthar zizi?
@hieunguyenngoc8880 mh i try to avoid using amira now against TAF. I use an Oya combo instead 🙃 satori is still useful against Octavia lines but Amira is actually a little bit outdated 😬 Best I could finde with a quick test was asta satori jorgen faceless martha but my faceless has a higher MP than Satori. So it will be different for your. Result 9:1 vs cleaver asta TAF. Jorgen Faceless are good supporter and we use them still very often. If I try the same combo but amira instead of Satori (still energy burn goes to faceless) then I get even 10:0
@@herowarssuddendeath thanks so much for the detail. I will try your way first. Amira is great counter to iris so I can still use her. Keep up with satori faceless jorgen. Any suggestion lineup for countering fat cause my server is full of them?
Thank you for both 🙂 I tried a lot but it's always with this volume. I can try to use an amplifier filter but I was a little bit unsure if it's really needed 🙂
Möglich ist es schon mal ;) Tristan schießt auf den höchsten MP hero also Lars (3. höchster Wert im Game) Je nach Glück kein crit und damit bist du noch im Spiel und kannst das passende Timing finden. Allerdings würde ich nicht mit Krista tanken, da Lars bis zu 50% Energie verlieren kann! Habe mal geschaut über die "verbotene Seite". 100% winrate bei 80 fights interessanterweise mit Rufus, Krista, Celeste, Amira, Lars vs Luther, Gala, Trist, Arte, Fafnir. Ansonsten noch Asta, Krista, Xesha,Lars,Phobos 100% mit 5 fights Asta, Krista, Jorgen, Celeste, Lars 100% mit 5 fights Asta, Krista, Judge, Lars, Faceless 100% mit 10 fights Cleaver, Krista, Jorgen, Lars, Faceless 100% mit 20 fights
I already used Fafnir for my KDF combination (KDF + Arachne + Aurora), which is my team 2. My team 1 is: Corvus, Morrigan, Iris, Isaac, Phobos. I currently have my team 3 which consists of balance of my other heroes: Maya, Celeste, Sebastian, Jhu, Faceless, Thea, which are less trained. There are a few others who are not trained at all yet like Tristan, Dante. How do you feel is a best combination for my team 3?
I would use KDF with Tristan You Iris team works better with Faceless or Dante For team 3 you could use ADA (aurora dante arachne) + maya but you need a hero like Lilith
@@herowarssuddendeath Ty sir. I got many inspiration from watching your videos when making my team, so thank you! My dilemma is I have an untrained 5-star Artemis whom I think is a waste to not train up. But don’t know how to slot into my existing 3 team lineup. I have a 2-star Tristan and Dante who I don’t mind training (when I manage to get enough gold and potions lol)
Yeah this game must be played with much patience 😅 But that makes it also to a long term challenge and that's funny too 😉 Tristan is super nice, so no waste. Artemis is also great. You can watch my level guide for that team. Artemis doesn't need much upgrade if Fafnirs physical attack is well developed.
@@herowarssuddendeath yea for sure need a lot of patience. Haha. But if I use Artemis I will have to break up my KDF. Is there any other next best combination that will work well without Fafnir? For example with my existing heroes available
Undead is very useful, mostly better with iris but sometimes I use it with Keira (against some amira combos to force her ult earlier and then the timing between phobos/morrigan is perfect) ADA Lilith is also not bad
extremely detailed video, with all the counters and counter-counters :D , thanks!!
Thanks for your comment too 😉✌️
wow - amazing stuff...analysis and breakdown of the reasons why each piece works - then gets stopped from working...then how to restart it again...too good!
Thank you very much 🙂
@@herowarssuddendeath Do you see Iris playing a role in any counter, maybe in place of Peppy?
I tried a lot with Iris but was not really successful 🥲 they gain faster energy and that's not good 🙃
3 rd ;P
as Always a pleasure to watch :) and I knew this would be the next topic ... and I already Waites for it ;P
🙂 I invested a lot of time in calculation and in the end it was easier than expected 🤣 they have dynamic and static calculations
definitely an amazing video! much appreciated for your time!
however, for Fafnir and tristan, what are the glyph order for them?
thank you in advance!
I just saw your next video that is exactly talking about the leveling orders! thank you!
once again, amazing videos!!
Thank you 🙂👍 answer in the other video
I love your videos they help me a lot!!!🤩...so if they used luther/corvus/tristan/artemis/fafnir which team would be good to defeat him?
Thank you 🤗 with Corvus Artemis will be in range of Jorgen and Faceless brings Luther back. Luther stunns the last hero, so it should be Martha. Lilith works in that combo too. Its also possible to use yasmine with Astaroth, she will be resurrected. I hope this helped a little 🙂
As always, top video. It's a tough opponent, very hard to beat. Still have some work to do on my Amira...
Thank you very much 🙂 yes, especially the crit rng makes it unpredictable. And the stun interrupts often other ultimates. Very nice and strong 💪but Fafnir can be used with many other heroes 😉
You are awesome mate 🙂🙂
You too ✌️ thanks
Nicework man! Thats great info!
Thank you 🙂
the music is incredibly calming :P
Does it mean it's good or bad? 🙃
Hello and thank you for your content! Im on a mission given by our server and guildmates to strike down FARTs with my Ziri, Amira, Faceless. +2. :) Tried Celeste and second tank Asta. Not working. Wanna switch to Jorgen, Martha. What skins, glyphs, artifacts on them to prefer, please? :)
Thanks for your nice comment 🙂👍
Ziri Jorgen Amira Faceless Lian is a good option for Luther FARTs
Ziri Asta Satori Amira Aidan for many other setups
And also Asta/Cleaver Jorgen Xesha Amira Aidan
Main stat is important for "anti-crit"
Health to survive
Armor is also important for native Arte armor penetration ~16k
And of course max Artefact weapons (amira wouldn't need it against that line)
If you have no Faceless superskin then many combos won't work but I told you some alternatives 🙃
JJI amira is good against Chabba Julius
oh, thank you so much for quick answer! youre amazing!@@herowarssuddendeath So no healer needed in Lian setup? Im not that far in game to have access to all of them :) Was pampering my mystics :)
No problem 👍 and thank you 🙂
It's a quite difficult setup with many variations. Martha can be used sometimes but it works not that properly. It depends also on your opponents strength. Aidan is here really nice and more useful because his shields trigger passivly when you drop under 30% life. It's nearly made to counter Artemis a little 🙂
Great Video. I really like your Style oder Videos and how much Tine and work you put into them.
What about using jhu and nebula to kill fafnir super fast?
Thank you very much 🙂 Fafnir has a lot of life and jhu can't kill him so quickly. It loads him even super fast and your enemy gets fast a double sword buff. But with Jorgen + physicals with lillte splash dmg you can redirect all those attacks to him and kill him immediately.
So I'm not sure I understand the Tristan part of the synergy. Could someone explain it? I'm currently running Luther with F and Ar who has stun. I can't evolve Tristan from the hydra shop because I have not 6 decent guild.
Luther is an honor hero, so Artemis gets more arrows for her ult and Tristans energy burning gets also 1 shot more. So the most synergy effect in the classic way is with Luther Galahad 🙂
Luthers jump stuns normally the last hero, so you can even oneshot the last hero with a good smart arrow.
@@herowarssuddendeath I corrected my post. I meant to ask about Tristan. I understand Luther.
@michaelstora70 ah okay 🙃 yeah Tristan is one key hero. He provides with his artefact weapon the amor penetration for the entire team. And his crazy bonus energy allows to have overlapping buffs. At max very important and essentiell. Luther and all other heroes are doing a lot of damage (armor reduces the dmg dramatically and all tanks have 0)
Tristans soulstones are available in the hero ways shop, so you don't need a good guild for it 😉
Dang bro I love the fact that I have a Cleaver maxed out even though my Artemis team is low right now soon..... May have questions later as I test it out
One thing I have these counters the only one that is low is my peppy... Do you think a little bit low peppy would be a disadvantage? Every other hero is very decently leveled
She has at max highest MP, so she is always the target of the energy steal. For her dmg she doesn't need it. But she needs max life to survive a crit of smart arrow. If your Faceless has more MP then he will be the target. Could work. You can even go with Astaroth instead of Peppy. Works too but sometimes you have timeout problems because of the energysteal on faceless. Btw against lower Artemis is sometimes even harder
Great video. I look forward to developing them soon, but my resources won't allow me haha.
Thank you 🙂 yeah that's always the problem 🤣 I would start with Fafnir, not with Artemis 😉
@@herowarssuddendeath I would think the same. A support hero can always be more versatile for the investment.
so the counter the counter segment regarding Jorgen, the solution is two tanks?
Yes, but it doesn't work for all tanks. For example with Galahad it works for any other tank (because of his charge). For example with Corvus (except with Galahad) it doesn't work.
Not so many players have Cleaver [I've seen folks who play this game for about 4 years and haven't got him]
Which is unfortunate, cos' he makes it significantly easier to counter this team.
We tried Ziri, to no great success, but perhaps should look closer one more time.
May be with other heroes results would be better.
What we found is that Satori + Celeste often work good, IF Satori's Mag Pen is lower than Celeste has,
cos' Tristan drops the soap in front of fox even faster than Galahad... Usually need 2 tanking heroes there.
Furthermore, Ginger + Fafnir + Jorgen + Dorian work very well too, cos' Ginger is a backline hero,
which means that Jorgen does not take away Dorian's vamp-aura from her.
So she can stay alive and kill Faf and Artemis through Jorgen's Leper skill.
Word of note is - you gonna need one tough Jorgen for this to work...
Many players like to keep him underleveled, to gain energy faster,
but in this case "thin" Jorgen won't do any good.
We also got the idea that Amira can help, but our genie-lady is still quite small.
Besides, she tends to do quite poorly vs TristArFaf if they have Seb there.
So you still kinda need sort of Plan B when using Amira.
In any case, thank you for your vids mate, they are both insightful and entertaining. Keep it up, friend!
Thanks for your thoughts 🙂👍 it's just a very very good team with some rng. Cleaver is just very good because of the highest main stat and some selfhealing. Ziri ist not bad but Tristan is awesome. Amira helps to burn at least some of their energy 50%. So your Ziri has more time to activate her ult without the burry
Any update for current meta? I want to have a team coutner for FAT lineup with mystic hero. My damage dealer is satori + Asta Celeste Amira Marthar. Should I change anyone to get it better and hardcoutner for FAT? Replace Marthar by Lian? Please help, thanks so much !
The class skills and improved glyphs make a big difference now 🙃
You have to be careful with Amira now if your opponent has upgraded fafnirs health glyph. Very suprising 😅
Lian helps only if you fight against Luther TAF and you need a good artefact weapon for her and life must be higher than artemis crit.
You have to look what's the problem in your team. Tristans energy burn goes to highest magic penetration, amira, satori or celeste? Normally you play with Jorgen to stop the energy gaining and faceless to get at him the energy burning + his throw allows to reach artemis often too with jorgen. When amiras gold explode with MA buff then you are mostly done but we got many HP talsimans, so that make Amira less effective.
Satori kills not always wverything dependent on the life. Before runes update you needed 5 marks, so 5 mystics or to wait until ~1:30 when he used his aoe attack again
@@herowarssuddendeath tristan now burn energy of my satori cause i max his MA glyph and artifact book. So i need someone else to deal damage beside that. I wonder should i left amirra out, jorgen in (that my team before i add amira) and only do satori is the damage dealer. So many things have to consider ==
If i give up on amira and only do satori, what lineup should I invest? Satori celeste jorgen marthar zizi?
@hieunguyenngoc8880 mh i try to avoid using amira now against TAF. I use an Oya combo instead 🙃 satori is still useful against Octavia lines but Amira is actually a little bit outdated 😬
Best I could finde with a quick test was asta satori jorgen faceless martha but my faceless has a higher MP than Satori.
So it will be different for your.
Result 9:1 vs cleaver asta TAF.
Jorgen Faceless are good supporter and we use them still very often.
If I try the same combo but amira instead of Satori (still energy burn goes to faceless) then I get even 10:0
@@herowarssuddendeath thanks so much for the detail. I will try your way first. Amira is great counter to iris so I can still use her. Keep up with satori faceless jorgen. Any suggestion lineup for countering fat cause my server is full of them?
Yasmine helps, oya or just other TAF combos. Sometimes JJI Astrid with Amira
Late on this one MTB race Saturday and Sunday.... Artimis Fafnir teams yay will comment after I watch the video
Dup di du 🤫
Video on which hero to level up first glyp order skin order etc in FART team please!
I'm on it ✌️
your video is great as always, but the voice volume of your video is always low
Thank you for both 🙂 I tried a lot but it's always with this volume. I can try to use an amplifier filter but I was a little bit unsure if it's really needed 🙂
Wie kann ich Artemis Fafnir mit Twins besiegen
Möglich ist es schon mal ;)
Tristan schießt auf den höchsten MP hero also Lars (3. höchster Wert im Game)
Je nach Glück kein crit und damit bist du noch im Spiel und kannst das passende Timing finden. Allerdings würde ich nicht mit Krista tanken, da Lars bis zu 50% Energie verlieren kann!
Habe mal geschaut über die "verbotene Seite". 100% winrate bei 80 fights interessanterweise mit Rufus, Krista, Celeste, Amira, Lars vs Luther, Gala, Trist, Arte, Fafnir.
Ansonsten noch Asta, Krista, Xesha,Lars,Phobos 100% mit 5 fights
Asta, Krista, Jorgen, Celeste, Lars 100% mit 5 fights
Asta, Krista, Judge, Lars, Faceless 100% mit 10 fights
Cleaver, Krista, Jorgen, Lars, Faceless 100% mit 20 fights
@@herowarssuddendeath Danke dir merk ich mir !
better known as FART (F-afnir, Ar-temis, T-ristan), strong team against Hydra and in PVP.
I would even say strongest team 🙂 but only in the comment 🤣
@@herowarssuddendeath hahaha yes safer to say "one of" to avoid the trolls
I regret any suggestion I made in some videos 🤣 they change now much faster and it should be more neutral 🙂
I already used Fafnir for my KDF combination (KDF + Arachne + Aurora), which is my team 2. My team 1 is: Corvus, Morrigan, Iris, Isaac, Phobos.
I currently have my team 3 which consists of balance of my other heroes: Maya, Celeste, Sebastian, Jhu, Faceless, Thea, which are less trained.
There are a few others who are not trained at all yet like Tristan, Dante.
How do you feel is a best combination for my team 3?
I would use KDF with Tristan
You Iris team works better with Faceless or Dante
For team 3 you could use ADA (aurora dante arachne) + maya but you need a hero like Lilith
@@herowarssuddendeath Ty sir. I got many inspiration from watching your videos when making my team, so thank you!
My dilemma is I have an untrained 5-star Artemis whom I think is a waste to not train up. But don’t know how to slot into my existing 3 team lineup. I have a 2-star Tristan and Dante who I don’t mind training (when I manage to get enough gold and potions lol)
Yeah this game must be played with much patience 😅
But that makes it also to a long term challenge and that's funny too 😉
Tristan is super nice, so no waste. Artemis is also great. You can watch my level guide for that team. Artemis doesn't need much upgrade if Fafnirs physical attack is well developed.
@@herowarssuddendeath yea for sure need a lot of patience. Haha. But if I use Artemis I will have to break up my KDF.
Is there any other next best combination that will work well without Fafnir?
For example with my existing heroes available
Undead is very useful, mostly better with iris but sometimes I use it with Keira (against some amira combos to force her ult earlier and then the timing between phobos/morrigan is perfect)
ADA Lilith is also not bad
Fantastic
Thank you 👍🙂
first one to watch. haha
Haha, nice guy 🤗🤴
That team is so f!@# broken.
It's definitly a great combo 😅 especially in the early game, if your artefact armor weapons are not maxed and so on.