Jim Cornette on Wrestlers Who Messed Up Their Spot
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 ก.ย. 2024
- From Episode 389 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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RVD was a Double World Champion and blew his spot in my hometown on the Evening News
Please elaborate (just interesred).
Got caught with weed in his car with Sabu, he took the fall for both of them
@@talkanders6058 busted with weed a few times, they had enough
@@durden2480 Was it not that where Sabu and RVD had been pulled over there were strict laws that screwed them. I think in Ohio
Wwe fools for that they bury rvd for weed. But hey uso multiple DUI’s is ignored. Makes no sense.
I heard he was scared of 2 inches of Al Snow.
I was dying when Jim said that Al Snow got the reputation as a shooter because of this story. Omg I’m still rolling 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me too
Yeah that was hilarious
??? I don’t understand
Wasn't Al Snow one of dan severns UFC trainers. He'd have to have SOMETHING there.
@@lebeaumuni6247 watch the clip 😂
So THAT'S how "Chief Jay Strongbow" was born.😳
Apropos of nothing, my friend and I rented a classic wrestling VHS back in the early 90s with a Strongbow match on it. He gets put in a sleeper hold and Gorilla starts yelling "HE'S CHOKING THE CHIEF!" and to this day it remains hilarious.
So his run was more of an accidental thing.. lol 😂
Its a little known fact Sunny blew more than her spots.
Taichi in New Japan. Got caught in a pretty big scandal cheating on his wife and loses his push, gets suspended for two months and takes a pay cut. Works his way back up into one of the best heels in the company.
Katsuyori Shibata almost suffered the same fate because he cheated on his wife but he was so factored into the plans with Okada that year so they let it slide.
Taka Michinoku got caught cheating on his wife and well, we haven’t seen him since with Suzuki-Gun.
Cheating on a significant other is considered very taboo in Japan. Entertainers are expected to live a very clean lifestyle. It can end careers if caught.
Meanwhile Tanahashi got stabbed by that reporter broad and it launched him into stardom.
What about Big Mike Elgin ...it looked like they were getting him ready for a run with Okada before his personal problems came out.
@@natebaxter9551 That plus Inoki, who didn’t see anything in him, being forced out in 2005 definitely helped him a lot.
@@johngallagher72 His fall from grace was so sudden. He had an amazing IC Title match with Naito and everything went downhill from there. What doomed him was when he went to management to bury Jeff Cobb.
Japan is super weird about cheating. Men will talk openly to each other about going to a brothel, or about how they have two girlfriends, but cheating is still considered very taboo, despite how common it is.
Some idol in japan slept with a married dude and they expected her to issue an apology, and she pretty much said "every is doing it, why act like they aren't just because the public doesn't know about it?" Which shocked the public, but she has a point.
That story about being scared of snow being turned into being scared of Al Snow is great!
"I dummmmmmbed my way right out of it" - King Kong Bundy
I guess if you only knew them from watching Bonanza you would think Strongbow was really Native American
Lol...no one under 40 will understand your statement but damn if it aint a great comparison! 🤣 im 47.
@@dwade6322 I'm 37 but you're probably not too far off, I had older parents
Speaking of Al Snow with stories like this: he tells the story of Tony Atlas ruining his debut for Ole. That's on youtube somewhere, i think it's him teaching a wrestling class.
I noticed Tony Atlas was in the middle of a lot of shit in the wrestling world..
@@kenrickeason to be fair anyone that traveled that much was bound to be. Just look at how much major stuff Corney had a role of some kind in. Others were around as much stuff but maybe aren't as vocal, noteworthy, or as good at telling stories.
I've encountered various shoot interviews with Al over the years, and something I've noticed is he seems to blame his lack of superstardom on everyone but himself
@@ItsTrinton You right..
New Breed screwed up their run in JCP because of their outside the ring activities including a couple car wrecks.
Hell I live in Georgia and it's true, it could snow 1 inch and some people act like it's a blizzard and are scared to drive in it
I'm from Arkansas. We don't like it either. What does everybody want!? To stay home!!
Midwesterner here. Before I get too smug, is part of it because you guys don't have snow plow trucks clearing and salting the roads ready?
@@ericdale4641 only on main roads
@@ericdale4641 i moved to Georgia. Most people here are not from here. Its not a "southern thing" so much as it is a matter of the actual situation. The ice here is worse than other places because it never gets cold enough for the ice to truly solidify. It is basically sheets of ice on top of each other and it can be impossible to drive with winter conditions. It's much easier to drive on snow/ice in places like PA than GA. I always thought it was a funny overreaction, but it really is worse here than any other area I've personally ever experienced.
I live in the Pacific Northwest and we get a few snowfalls a year. The danger isn't the snow as much as the other drivers. The snow is infrequent enough that people don't learn how to drive safely in the snow so you can know exactly what you're doing and still have some other idiot slide into you. My dad was once at a stop sign and some idiot slowly slid across the intersection and banged into him.
Well who wouldn't be scared of a guy talking to a severed mannequin head
Me. I would think he was just stupid
Good thing the dirt sheets misinterpreted it that way. They could've gone the other way and say he was afraid of Al Snow's 2 inches
These stories of guys who just decided to go home made me remember a really unusual one. Jack Brisco.
Jack and his brother Jerry, both highly celebrated NWA mainstays (with Jack even being "the guy" in the early 70s), knowingly killed the Georgia territory by selling to WWF. Then they came in and actually wrestled as a team for Vince, picked up a non-title win over Adonis and Murdoch, and one day Jack just decided to quit the business and retire without warning to go work at his auto body shop.
Seriously, wtf???
@ Dave Barton Jack hadn’t done that type of travel in almost ten years ( his NWA title run) and he was in his mid forties and that was the reason. He had already made his money. Jack got a check from them until his dying day ( most people don’t know that) and Jerry, until recently, had a job for life for their roles in selling Vince their shares in Georgia Championship Wrestling.
@@philipclarke9696 Yeah, I know (aside from getting a check from WWF/E for the rest of his life). It was just a really odd way to cap his NWA career...kill one of their territories & then retire almost immediately.
Who actually watches wrestling anymore jimbo is more entertaining than any wrestling promotion or wrestler for the past 10 15 years
Pretty much.
Exactly.
I gave up on WWE a few years ago but AEW puts out a very entertaining show.
@@deathproofpony I wouldn’t go that far 😂it depends on what u think is entertaining . Aew is like 2010 wwe running itself into the dirt forever
I do. Lots and lots of it. And you should too, because pro wrestling is awesome
The "Southern Fear of (Al) Snow" is very real.
people still tell the kids if dont mind, Al snow might get them. In Game of Thrones "Winter is coming" was really a Al Snow reference
They said Butch didn’t show up that night in Buffalo and Honky Tonks celebration of winning was taped the next night in Rochester or Syracuse,I forget which one.Which explains Butch being there
Yup HTM says in shoots this is the reason .
Urban legend
@@chrischar9428 Okay, what actually happened?? I'm really intrigued now..
@@kenrickeason I asked larry Matysik who worked there at the time and he said no
@Chris Charboneau The flaw in your argument is that Larry worked there for a few months back in 1984 , he wasn’t there in 1987…so……
I remember Billy Black did some early appearances in the Global Wrestling Federation, I think Chris Walker did too. Him and one of the Simpson Brothers were the tag team champs
I saw Chris Walker job on WWF.
@@SynDC6 ya Chris Walker and Big Bully Busick both had a cup of coffee in WWF
when Jim said to Brian about knowing All Japan in the 90s (The 4 Pillars Era) I want to hear more about AJPW in this podcast and how it influenced wrestling in the next few decades.
I don't even know what he'll talk about but I'm already laughing looking at this title.
Can someone tell me what the backstory of Brian Last is? Is he a rich mark who used to fly everywhere to watch wrestling or what?
I was Born and raised in barbourville Ky, that Jim Mentioned! I actually met him and worked for Jim there when they done a charity event to help our football team!
For the love of God please stop this selective censoring
Wow, I remember Chris Walker from his days wrestling on WWF Prime Time Wrestling. He was mainly a house show and Prime Time guy but they had no idea what to do with him beyond that I guess. According to his Wikipedia, he didn't stay anywhere long outside GWF & WWF. He wrestling sporadically for various promotions for brief times 'til 98 and then retired.
William Regal spoke about ruining his chances with the heavyweight belt. Didn't feel big enough, started "bulking up," got caught. (If I recall hearing him correctly. It's on his TH-cam interview)
I know the guy in the thumbnail is Billy Black but it looks like Waylon Jennings.
I'd say Benoit messed up his spot in history as one of the greatest of all time and for what it's worth, he'll never be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. People still admire his in ring work to this day, but his name will always be controversial.
I don’t know why they’d never induct him in the hof. We all know he was framed.
It's almost like killing your defenseless family overshadows your ability to have a fake fight. Weird.
@@jdgustofwinddance.7748 unfortunately everyone thinks the opposite. Innocent until proven guilty by fake media.
@@DannyBZ9 everyone who condemns him automatically is a fool.
@@jdgustofwinddance.7748 People who dismiss what he did because they liked his fake fights have dogshit where their soul should be.
Matt Bourne? The OG Doink?
I'm pretty sure that's the guy.
Yes he was a trouble maker
Def had creepy uncle vibe
I remember seeing Billy Black on some of the early GWF shows on ESPN back in '91.
If u think about it al snow was basically playing a deranged serial killer who escape the lunny bin an was carrying a Manikin head that resembled his victim 😳 🤷🏽♀️🤣
* Mannequin
Tht mannequin head was originally supposed to be Rick Rude.. He was " managing" Al right before disappearing from the company then Al did a gimmick tht he flipped out and was talking to Rude all the time, lol NOBODY seems to remember this though or Snow etc are just told not to talk about it now? Idk? But I loved it for tht reason
Properly more famous examples
1. David Schultz
2. Buddy Landell
3. Butch Reed
4. Barry O ...wasn't really gonna get a push...but def went into hiding
David Schultz didn’t ruin anything it was all Vince shady activities trying to make the DR. Take the fall
@@pleaseshutup7053 After telling him to stand up for the business.
@@pleaseshutup7053 yeah Vince really screwed over Dr. D ... still Dr. D should have been in the main event of mania ... from what I understand it was supposed to be Piper and Dr. D versus Hogan and Mr. T
Hacksaw Jim Duggan missed his spot getting arrested with Iron Sheik.
Al Snow is the real victim, here. Saying that Billy Black was scared of 2" of Snow ... is just poorly worded for him.
Maybe snow is just poorly endowed
The Butch Reed celebration with Honky Tonknwas supposedly filmed a day or that's why he was there. Reed admitted in a shoot that he was supposed to get the I-C belt since he was entering a feud with Steamboat.
My dog Spot.
6:21 "Well pal" 🤣
Every place I ever worked,people pull this same shit…
Billy was a good hand. Could cut a promo and was a flyer in the ring. He lived around the Griffin GA area in the mid 90's, He and Joel had a falling out around 1999. Billy was actually wrestling for NWA Wildside around 1999. Joel was actually one of the Thunderfoots just before he started wrestling for Jerry Blackwell in SCW in Georgia around 87',88'. This was about the same time Joel was arrested and they couldn't go back to work for Baba. Don't know what all the flack about an Italian playing an Indian is. Boris Malenko was Jewish. Mark Youngblood was Latino. Old man Sr. was trying to fill the roll of an Indian and Latinos, Italians, etc, fit the appearance. Olive skin, hair, nose etc.
Heck Billy White Wolf wasn't an Indian either. He and David Deaton wrestled as the Bruno Brothers for a long time. Joel and Billy were good together . Love the podcast guys, keep up the good work.
Since Jim has mentioned Jake walking out on him... I'm wondering, is this anyhow connected to Jake suddenly* appearing totally bald on one of the SMW episodes from 1994?
* By "suddenly" I mean that during a promo airing on an episode prior to the situation I'm referring to, Jake looked as per usual (mullet, mustache, what kinda appears to be a Xmas sweater, etc.), while next time he was on, he was already sporting the Stone Cold look.
He did a hair match in Mexico.
I've always wondered how this man became Chief Jay Strongbow, because he certainly wasn't a Native American when he wrestled for Championship Wrestling from Florida (CWF).
Mine is RVD. However i don't blame him. Wrestlers and Football players beat up their bodies day after day, week after week, and CAN'T smoke to help with the mental and physical pain?!? I never really like WWE after that. EFF VINCE.
Amen My Brother,He Had Dr.Zahorion or whatever writing 2 years worth of Steroids in 2 months time! Unbelievable amounts of percocet,Norco,Oxy,Muscle Relaxers! So most of our favorites that are gone Mixed all this stuff with Cocaine and Booze! I'm 45 and I lived that life for 11 years. It's horrible,and people get so Ashamed and think they can't turn things around and that's usually the end! For alot,Not All. 👍🏼✅💯
You look at him now and that man can still go an move with the pounding his body has taken over the years.
And look at what pain pills do to there abusers vs weed.
I thought Tom Prichard, Lord Jonathan Boyd and Jerry Stubbs were The Wild Bunch?
Tht Al Snow story is the funniest fucking misconstrued story in the history of wrestling!! 😂 ok theres some funny stories but this one is definitely up there cause Im STILL laughing about it 5minutes after hearing it
Preach brotha
Yeah bruvva
Now, I wish Al Snow with Head was in this thumbnail.
⭐️Hey Corny, whatever happened to Alex Wright???
Fam wanted to return to Germany and live with his family.
*Berlyn 😏
@@kylesantos8190 Well, he returned after WCW died off and started a promotion over there, so it seems he did good for himself.
Conan Chris Walker was freakin’ shredded
in canada on our status card still says Indian status
I wonder what Billy Black thought of the Al Snow news
How did Jim Cornette get back his TV title?
Duggan comes to mind here for me
Chris Benoit - ECW world title - decided to kill off his family - total epic messed up his spot
"YOU FUCKED UP! YOU FUCKED UP!"
-ECW Fans😜
I wonder how cm punk would have fit on wrestlemania 30
One that comes to mind is Ahmed Johnson. They pushed this guy to the moon. If he had got better in promos and in the ring he probably would of got the strap at some point. Also Kerry Von. Erich in WWF in the early 90s. Sid blew his spot several times due to his unpredictability.
I remember Conan Chris Walker in the WWF he worked a couple of opening matches at house shows at the Richfield Coliseum in Ohio in the early/mid 90s but I never saw him on TV I don't believe
He was on a prime time wrestling episode beating Kato I believe.
@@QuentinDude Oh yeah I forgot about that, thanks
Chief Frank Hill
Interesting, TH-cam bleeped out curse words on this one.
TH-cam doesn't do it, Brian does.
It's them, not TH-cam.
The editor bleeps them out so the video is ad-friendly.
If you don't censor your video in the first thirty seconds or so, it might get picked up by TH-cam's censors and the video will get demonetised.
TH-cam won't pay em if they curse
Butch Reed could of had Honkey Tonk mans spot but decided to miss shows and WWE lost faith in him
He didn't screw up a spot, but Marc Mero sure screwed up his push.
Why do some of the videos have profanity bleeped and others don't? Seems kind of inconsistent.
You ******g well hit the ***t right on the nail there, ya ****ing ******d! 😁🤪
Well I am sure after a few minutes the trainees in the ring being trained by All Snow would know to fear him. 😅😂😉
He really beat them up with his dreaded finisher: the Avalanche. :-O
Billy black was in global in the early 90s.
Wasn't Billy Black in Global for a while
Y u got a snowman ⛄ its summer lol the last thing I want 2 think about is snow ❄ smh 🥶🤣
when did the bleeps start?
How about the Freebrids in the WWF?
8:11 I can relate to that.
i know he doesn't really watch UFC, but i really wanna know his reaction to Conor lol
Conor is a bum. I don’t want to see him ever in wwe
@@pleaseshutup7053 Conor has better mic skills than everybody in WWE
@@rickytpb2164 he wouldn’t be able to talk how he does in ufc plus he’s gotten his ass whipped too many times and has no respect for the business. I’ll take bad bunny a guy who respects wrestling and says nothing but good things over that bum.
@@rickytpb2164 his trashtalk skills are actually bad tbh
@@rickytpb2164 yeah no. Most, sure but not all.
Who is in that vehicle??? Uso? Or wahoo?
If I've gathered anything from Cornette is that he has never done anything wrong in his life. He needed the name Mr perfect.
Are you dense? Lol there’s years of corny clips and podcasts to hear him tell tales of his mistakes lol
To be fair, I'd be scared of two inches of Al Snow as well.
Mr Kennedy
al did a snow job
Back to the territory days ?
Why did SMW fail? Because Jim didn't pick talent, he picked dudes that won on TV...unless they were friends, then the dude could have done tons of TV jobs like Buddy Landell.
What? lol. He obviously picked talent. Considering most either shown up on either WWF or WCW. lol That post is obviously from someone who never watched SMW.
I don't think you know who actually wrestled in SMW.
I think we found Adderall Tony's secret TH-cam account.
Or and hear me out, he started a wrestling company in the middle of a wrestling depression and didn’t have a huge amount of financial backing. I think it would have been interesting if he’d have kept it going until 1998 how it would have gone. I suggest it would have closed down around the time wcw and ECW probably have similar niche market and historical love that ecw does.
@@troystaunton254 Corny put on one of the absolute best United States wrestling shows of the first half of the 1990's with night of legends.
7:10 lol only that story was good
Amazing to see how these promoters had to deal with the sane nonsense from employees as so many of us have.
Well what is an Indian really? Dont seem like too many ppl really know lol
I love watching WWE botches. For the #1 company, those so called superstars sure mess up a lot
The entire industry sucks and has for years.
('they made an Italian Guy an Indian' - lol!) Tony Atlas, Al Snow, Conan Chris Walker, Billy Black & Joel Deaton (Cameron Grimes) it's the 80's all over again!
And women get pushed and they get pregnant
You southerns can drive in snow lmao
Al Snow's only got 2 inches? Damn, the things you find out.
Google "the legend of the penis suplex".
Reed would have been a great I c heel champ.
Hoooooooooooooooooooo! Ha.
Cm punk walking out of wwe
RVD has Left the Chat …… 👀
Al Snow believes he's a shooter.
BUNDY
Check out the new TH-cam channel AEW botches 🤟
Lots of missed spots highlighted with comedic satisfaction 😂
first
Why ruin the comment section say something meaningful Jesus Christ
Come on Dan who cares
Aspire for something that matters, loser. "First" - seriously, who would actually take any pride in a fake accomplishment like that?
@@deathproofpony yeah really grinds my gears
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Mr Kennedy