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For anyone wondering how Mariko knows how to beat ass with a Naginata, the wives of Samurai were very often well trained in self defense. When their husbands were away at war, Onna-Bushi were expected to defend their homes and villages and were often the last line of defense during sieges. Mariko's husband was known as a great warrior and no doubt would have trained her.
@@Sm0kingGun Also true, though it might’ve been better to show her struggling; her fighting despite physical weakness and being out of her forte could highlight her personal bravery and loyalty to Toranaga much more, every one of her fights in the books had me in deep admiration!
Also, a lot of people are saying that Mariko is a depiction of modern feminism rather than being historically accurate. When the real historical figure , Akechi Tama, committed seppuku because of her Catholic faith, breaking the code of conduct imposed on women of the samurai class. That is way crazier.
Toranaga tricked John into diving so that John is more tired while at the same time John could bathe more as well (because he knew that John wasn’t fond of bathing).
It's also a twofold test for John; Is he willing to let go of his pride and obey Toranaga's orders, even if those orders are seemingly pointless and petty? And is he patient enough to teach someone a skill by demonstrating it over and over again, which is exactly what Toranaga needs him to do with the new regiment he wants John to train.
If he does die then that will is going to be the last thing he leaves behind in the world. I imagine he would want to make a good impression to posterity.
A hatamoto (旗本, "Guardian of the banner") was a high ranking samurai in the direct service of the Tokugawa shogunate of feudal Japan. While all three of the shogunates in Japanese history had official retainers, in the two preceding ones, they were referred to as gokenin. However, in the Edo period, hatamoto were the upper vassals of the Tokugawa house, and the gokenin were the lower vassals. There was no precise difference between the two in terms of income level, but a hatamoto had the right to an audience with the shogun, whereas gokenin did not. The word hatamoto literally means "origin of the flag", with the sense of 'around the flag', it is described in Japanese as 'those who guard the flag' (on the battlefield) and is often translated into English as "bannerman". Another term for the Edo-era hatamoto was jikisan hatamoto (直参旗本), sometimes rendered as "direct shogunal hatamoto", which serves to illustrate the difference between them and the preceding generation of hatamoto who served various lords.
I am Japanese. I'm glad that there are historians with wonderful knowledge of Japanese history. 1人の日本人として海外にこれほど日本史に詳しい歴史家がいて嬉しいです。あなたより正確な日本史に疎い日本人も多いので。
William Adams, the person who Blackthorne is based on, was also named Hatamoto by Tokugawa (Toranaga in the show) but probably not as fast but more due to his services to Tokugawa some time later.
Hatamoto was a high ranking samurai title, bestowed to the inner circle of trusted retainers. They also often were the personal bodyguards of the nobles in the clan. So it's not the fact the rank itself which was impressive but the fact that Toranaga gave it to a foreigner. Entire generations of peasants spent their lives trying to purchase the title of even the lowliest samurai, and now that Blackthorne was given this rank, it showed to the rest of his entourage how much he valued him.
John ist NOT a pirate. He mentions previously that he has a "letter of marque" from the Dutch, which means he is a privateer. The big difference is that a pirate is an outlaw who attacks random ships and bases to steal for his own. A privateer may use the same methods but does it not (only) for himself but for the government he has the letter of marque from. So basically a privateer is a mercenary at sea who attacks only ships and bases he is legally authorized to from the government which hired him. In John's case only spanish and portuguese ones. He mentions also that he has served under the famous Sir Francis Drake who stopped the invasion of England by the spanish Armada in 1588. Drake not only was an admiral, before that he also was a privateer.
Not really much of a difference to the people being raided by them! Being from Brazil a land that suffered several of theses attacks in the hands of theses "Privateers", they are not seen in such regards or distinctions!
@@RandomNPC001 Of course, I don't think he meant that he's highly regarded or whatever. He still raided and plundered, it's just that he was doing it "legally"
@@hex_1733Legally according to England and Holland, everybody else would see them as criminals!! This is what got Rodrigues angry at him in the 2nd episode and Rodrigues does not even like the Portuguese! Plundering, sacking and killing still Plundering, sacking and killing no matter what one king or queen says!
As a Japanese, I am very grateful that people overseas are enjoying this period drama. If a purely Japanese period drama were to be accepted overseas, the Kamakura period, with its rise of the samurai, might also be interesting. If I were more fluent in English, I could tell you how interesting Japanese history is... By the way, the killing style in this drama is very authentic. I am learning iai, and I do not feel uncomfortable with their gestures. It is no exaggeration to say that this work is just as it was in the Warring States period as far as the manners and etiquette are concerned.
Bit of a random question but I feel like you are probably the best person to ask out of everyone in this comment section. At the 26:00 minute mark the Anjin is given the title "Hatamoto". He responds in Japanese and the subtitles claim that he is saying "Thank you". I can't quite hear what Japanese phrase he is using. Do you recognise it at all?
@@SparkyAllMighty Anjin says "Katajikenai”. かたじけない。 This "Katajikenai" has various meanings, and the connotations vary depending on the situation. In this case, "I am filled with gratitude for the other person's kindness and favor" is an expression of gratitude, similar to "Thank you”. To the other person, "I am sorry for all this you have done for me. Thank you so much." and "I am afraid" are also included. ”Katajikenai" is appropriate when you are truly grateful, or when someone has been so kind to you that it was a waste of time. However, it seems to be too casual a word to use for such a person of such a different status. Toranaga letting Anjin off the hook because He is Namban, but the meaning is appropriate. By the way, if you use "Katajikenai" in modern Japan, you will be laughed at. It is a somewhat old word, so it is not often used in colloquial speech. (I am not good at English and may be wrong.) Do you get the idea?
i love this show so much! the cast is top tier, the show is gorgeous to look at, the storytelling is so precise, and i love how they play with language, especially after reading about how the script is written in english, translated into japanese, then given to a japanese playwright to then translate into more poetic dialogue that capture the nuance of period pieces. i must also say that i really enjoy cosmo jarvis’ performance! i haven’t really seen him in anything but the way he portrays blackthorne as abrasive but idealistic with great determination is quite compelling. the “woman respecter” scene got me howling 😭 so excited to see the next episodes!!
A cool detail I heard from a book reader is that Blackthorne is a true polyglot. He's not just fluent in English and Portuguese, but also Dutch, Spanish and Latin if I remember right. So it makes sense that he's picking up Japanese so quickly.
And it does make sense, given that he is a privateer (legal seaman pirate) and he has to go around the world so he needs to learn languages as he goes to avoid legal trouble 😅
In traditional Japanese archery they learn to shoot from many distances then when they get close they are trained to use their bow like a spear… loved that they showed that here… the bow was the samurai’s weapon of choice until the katana came into fruition
@@vincentfazioiii Right? I'm so confused. Everytime I start to root for him, I remind myself of how he boiled that man and made his nephew recite a poem for it.
Mariko-sama(Akechi Tama → Hosokawa Gratia) was a famous samurai lady. Her life was so dramatic and the record of her characteristic was "intellectual","unparalleled beauty",tragedy". She became legend not only in Japan but also in Europe(there was a opera based on her life and it was especially loved by House of Habsburg in Austria). And now, there is a statue of her in Kyoto(Tango).
I had a really good laugh at that scene with the captain running behind Blackthorne yelling "He actually means 'faster'!" in Japanese. 😄 It would be really easy for this series to slide into the territory of being overly serious, so I very much appreciate the skill with which the writers manage to inject the occasional bit of humor while maintaining the general tone of the setting.
For gamers who think John Blackthorns character seems familiar it’s because he’s based in real life on William Adams, the first Englishman to set foot on Japan, who later became a samurai and close advisor to the shogun. Which is what the video game Nioh is based on.
His son, Joseph Adams, born in Japan in 1605, inherited the territory and the title of Anjin after his father's death (1620). Records show that the second Anjin left for Southeast Asia in 1624 and 1635. After that, there is a record that he erected a building in 1636, but his movements after that are unknown. Incidentally, the first Anjin had a daughter (Susanna) besides him.
@@RandomNPC001 William Adams had only one chance to return to England. This is because a British ship washed ashore in Japan. However, he rejected the chance. The reason was that he had a fight with the captain. The captain insulted the Japanese by calling them barbarians. William was furious. He intended to return to his homeland, but he was proud of being a samurai and had a deep attachment to Japan.
The character of John Blackthorn is based on the real William Adams. He knew at least 5 languages before reaching Japan. English, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch and Latin. So, him picking up Japanese quickly is not unusual
So I just looked up the history which this is based on. John is based on William Adams, an English navigator who actually became a key advisor to Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga).
The main guy looks like Tom Hardy mixed with Viggo Mortenson from the LOTR's films. Am I crazy? It hurts how much that's the best comparison I can think of.😅
“Hatamoto” means a high ranking samurai (or a retainer) in the Tokugawa (Toranaga) shogunate. It has a privilege of being a direct audience to the shogun (in this case, Toranaga himself) whenever he wants to discuss political affairs while the lower ranking samurai can’t.
The acting continues to impress me. My favorite moments this episode are: How well the actor playing Blackthorne did the "distraction" scene to keep them from looking in the traveling chair Toranaga calling Buntara by his government name and then bowing to him Buntara all through the episode. Especially that "second wind" when he took the battle off the jetty and back onto the docks after his Sama witnessed him!
14:00 the man in the center, I see the sense of honor in your eyes and your heart and the regret of living in a world where these values have been lost.
I hope they explain Buntaro's character like it does in the book. His marriage was politically arranged one to a dishonored man's daughter (Mariko) who was not allowed to join her father in death. So she retains the distainful reputation/dishonor of her family and Buntaro is salty because of it and so resents her, her family and his situation because it affects his honor & reputation.
@NYGChris it's realistic, that blinding glare can happen from the reflection of the sun on the water's surface, this can also happen when it's misty. I think I first learned about it from Corridor Digital's vfx reactions if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah. These sort of nautical light conditions are really hard to get right. And very often studios don't bother because people will just claim it looks fake anyway, but this is exactly what it looks like.
A funny scene in this is when The Regent jumps into the sea with John Its supposed to be a sentimental moment , however Sanada's way of diving into the water basically meant that he just smacked himself full impact , and that would hurt you badly 😅
That's actually how it's depicted in the book! Toranaga belly flops like 10 times in a row but keeps on going until he figures it out. Not sure why they changed it here but it was still a great scene!
Hatamoto means "near the flag" in Japanese. In Japan, a flag is raised during a battle to indicate the location of the commander, and this term is used to describe the personal guard who guards the area near the flag.
'Bugger' is also used as a fairly tame curse word over here in New Zealand and Australia. Especially in Australia, people use it to refer to other people endearingly all the time, like calling someone a 'good bugger'. Which, now that I read it after this episode, sounds like a completely different thing...
One minor note; the 'heir' is not the heir to the emperor. At this point, and really until the Meiji Restoration in the late 1800's, the Emperor was just chilling in Kyoto doing absolutely f**k all. They were almost entirely apolitical. The little kid is heir to become effectively the regent or chancellor of the realm, ruling in the Emperor's name, like his father.
Samurai were excellent marksmen. IRL, their main weapons on horseback were bow/arrow and a spear called a Yari. It's really awesome seeing this show portray the samurai as beastly archers.
*SPOILERS* Looks like you guys are enjoying this remake as much as I am. I saw the 1980 mini-series which is an excellent adaptation in its own right, but with modern technology they are able to add to the cinematography, costume & set design & overall atmospheric look that seems to aim for authenticity above all else. This new remake is beautiful & everyone is inhabiting their role i.e. the acting is superlative. The first 2 episodes set up everything from the first contact of the English with Anjin & his crew with Anjin learning of the political machinations & artifices that are happening between the various Japanese clans which is only exacerbated by the disingenuous hypocrites, the Portuguese traders & missionaries. Now we got to see some action. That ending was emotional. “Toda Hirokatsu!” That was badass. I hope he survives somehow. The banter between Anjin & Rodrigues was classic. We are seeing the begruding respect Anjin is starting to have for Toranaga & his clan, & vice versa. The first 3 episodes have been amazing. It sucks having to wait for the next episode!
(NO SPOILERS) Hatamoto will be explained in the next episode, I highly imagine. They just played it into the break to create a minor mystery to keep folks hooked. We won't spoil the effect. But I'd really imagine that the only wait we'll have before getting significantly more information will be the week we have to wait for the next episode to drop.
The Portuguese would also drop off a part of their ship`s crew onto new lands and they would be told to procreate with the natives. This way they could later claim that they had ancestral claims, just in case someone would show up later and try to claim the land from them. Such claims would often be brought up to other kings and or Pope in order to get alliances in fighting off other naval powers who wanted their new lands!
Man, this actor is doing a phenomenal job playing Blackthorne, and the writers have done great with the adaptation. Somethings have been left out, but I do get why since they obviously want to get into the meat of the story much quicker than the book. This is shaping up to be my favorite book adaptation in media.
This is a famous Zen parable about a fictional account of a Zen master asking the three most powerful warlords of the Sengoku or Warring states period (Oda Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Tokugawa Ieyasu) what they would do if a hototogisu or cuckoo didn't sing. It was a parable which illustrates the character of each of these three different types of leaders. Oda Nobunaga (Ishido) was known for his fierceness and cruelty and thus would answer, "Kill it." Toyotomi Hideyoshi (The Taiko) was the most cunning and would therefore coyly say, "convince it." Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toronaga) was the most diplomatic and patient so he would most likely say, "Wait for it."
Don't think Ishido is a Nobunaga proxy (on account that he'd already have been dead by the time the series starts). Pretty sure he's based on Mistunari Ishida.
@@H34rtofFire This is true. Ishido is modeled after Mitsunari Ishida. Nobunaga Oda, who unified the country, died 1582, 18 years before this story is set. Nobunaga was betrayed and killed by his retainer, Mitsuhide Akechi. Toyotomi Hideyoshi(Taiko) defeated Akechi and unified japan.
You're meant to have mixed feelings about Buntaro. Yeah, he is a dick to his wife and son. But, he is also an honorable and skilled samurai, dedicated to his Sama. It's hard to get that "likable rascal" thing right. Especially if his "bad side" is what would be domestic abuse in modern times. So, he is kinda "well-balanced" at heing a dick, but not outright abusive or physically mean to them.
Yeah I hope they explain his character like it does in the book. His marriage was politically arranged one to a dishonored man's daughter (Mariko) who was not allowed to join her father in death. So she retains the distainful reputation/dishonor of her family and Buntaro is salty because of it and so resents her, her family and his situation because it affects his honor & reputation.
Richard Burton! THAT'S who Cosmo Jarvis reminds me of! Sorry, took me three episodes and I'm sure it's been mentioned before but hell, that scene where he talks about why he left England and his family... Burton's ghost. :)
A hatamoto (旗本, "Guardian of the banner") was a high ranking samurai in the direct service of the Tokugawa shogunate of feudal Japan.[1] While all three of the shogunates in Japanese history had official retainers, in the two preceding ones, they were referred to as gokenin Wiki
I really loved to see Mariko's Naginata fighting. It is so good and cute! Yesterday I saw high-school-girls carrying Naginata-brade on the train. I am glad if it gets more popular for their club activities here in Japan inspired by Mariko.
The story about your grandma using "bugger" is funny because that's still in wide use in the UK. At least in the area I'm from. Maybe older Americans kept more British slang?
I've watched a lot of Samurai movies, my favorite being the Musashi Miyamoto trilogy starring Toshiro Mifune. 13:42 is one of the best moments of them all.
A hatamoto is a high-level retainer within the Shōgunate. But, they were the higher level of the two levels of vassals and had a direct line to the shōgun.
I don´t think that it´s 5 votes that the council needs, they just need 4 votes, but it´s just that the council has to consist of 5 people to even allow them to vote.
Parts of this episode had me on the edge of my seat. Not many shows do that. Just so good so, really being interested in feudal Japan makes it that much better. I’m assuming Mariko’s husband isn’t dead.
"You play a game of friends and enemies" There's no such thing as friends in this game. Toda is the family name - Toda Mariko is the wife, Toda Hiromatsu is the dignified older Samurai, Toda Hirokatsu is the husband, or "Buntaro" to his friends.
The order of surname and given name in Japanese is reversed, so Toda Hiromatsu is the older lord who delivered Toranaga's resignation, Toda Hirokatsu (Buntaro) is his son, Toda Mariko is his son's wife, and Toda Fujiko is his daughter who received the ashes of her husband and infant son this episode.
Small note but the bit about Toranaga asking John to train soldiers in Western doctrine. Isn''t Japan at this point kinda already doing that? I mean in Europe you have heavy knights or men at arms backed with pikemen and arquebusiers and cavalry. And in Japan, armoured samurai backed with spear ashigaru and tanegashima (matchlock) gunners and cavalry. I'v seen a preview scene where they practice with artillery so perhaps something along the lines of that? Idk it's a small thing, it was just my understanding that at this point in 1600 Japan have already been using firearms and artillery for decades. So not really much differences to Europe except for the equipment, weapons and armour they use.
The main difference really always was artillery. The Chinese were using gunpowder for sieges (e.g. bombs and incendiary devices) since the 11th century. Europeans were using cannons in siege warfare since the 14th century at least. Finding some use for the stuff isn't that hard. It explodes, that's useful all the time. What really changed was that artillery became mobile and accurate enough to use it on the battlefield. And an experienced sailor who's used to very well made ship guns could be very deadly in an area that mostly used by comparison outdated weapons. Especially for cannons. Even if the cannons were only slightly better (and they usually were a lot better), the advantage in range very often meant that you could win quite handily by simply wiping out the enemy cannons first, while they couldn't retaliate. Also, a lot is happening in Europe at the time. Right at the outset of the 30 Years War, during the Dutch War of Independence, in the middle of the Ottoman invasions of Europe and their first siege of Vienna. There is a lot happening and Europe at this point is right at the edge of military development. You're right, it's not "dumb Japanese barely know what a gun is", but even if we talk a difference of a few decades, that's more than enough to decisively win a war.
is there anyone here who has played samurai warriors game? this show and the game are based on the same period of japanese history..yoshi toranaga is based on ieyasu tokugawa
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If no one else is going to bring it up, then I will!
Calvin looks like Hatamoto.
How was SHOGUN? I'm Japanese, so I learned about this in class when I was in elementary school, and I think I was able to learn about Japanese culture that was close to historical facts. Thanks for watching. Now, I need to request a reaction to another Japanese cultural film.
You may not know the name, or you may be reluctant to watch it after knowing the name, but there are certain titles that cannot be ignored when talking about movies. A dark room with as big a screen and loud sound as possible. that! You don't need to know anything about it.
"Mobile Suit Gundam Hathaway"
watch now
The problem is not about anime but about the future of the world.
Another thing you should never do is watch it in VR three times in a row (^▽^)/
For anyone wondering how Mariko knows how to beat ass with a Naginata, the wives of Samurai were very often well trained in self defense. When their husbands were away at war, Onna-Bushi were expected to defend their homes and villages and were often the last line of defense during sieges. Mariko's husband was known as a great warrior and no doubt would have trained her.
This is true, but in the books Mariko struggles much more and pretty much loses every combat engagement she’s in
@@threemeters1425 Good thing this is the TV show then :)
@@Sm0kingGun Also true, though it might’ve been better to show her struggling; her fighting despite physical weakness and being out of her forte could highlight her personal bravery and loyalty to Toranaga much more, every one of her fights in the books had me in deep admiration!
most of the times they would learn how to use the Naginata (like we saw this episode) because it would help women fight stronger men!
Also, a lot of people are saying that Mariko is a depiction of modern feminism rather than being historically accurate. When the real historical figure , Akechi Tama, committed seppuku because of her Catholic faith, breaking the code of conduct imposed on women of the samurai class. That is way crazier.
Toranaga tricked John into diving so that John is more tired while at the same time John could bathe more as well (because he knew that John wasn’t fond of bathing).
plans within plans...i will tire you out before we race...AND...you need a bath
I did wonder if he was actually trying to make him bathe!
Nah, he just wanted to watch his ass without anyone noticing.
The writer must be quite clever. It is difficult to write characters more intelligent than oneself.
It's also a twofold test for John; Is he willing to let go of his pride and obey Toranaga's orders, even if those orders are seemingly pointless and petty? And is he patient enough to teach someone a skill by demonstrating it over and over again, which is exactly what Toranaga needs him to do with the new regiment he wants John to train.
In the very beginning the handwriting is the character making a will, because he genuinely believes that he will die that day.
And he has been making a will every day for some time!
@@scotthewitt258he said it's his best one yet😅
If he does die then that will is going to be the last thing he leaves behind in the world. I imagine he would want to make a good impression to posterity.
A hatamoto (旗本, "Guardian of the banner") was a high ranking samurai in the direct service of the Tokugawa shogunate of feudal Japan. While all three of the shogunates in Japanese history had official retainers, in the two preceding ones, they were referred to as gokenin. However, in the Edo period, hatamoto were the upper vassals of the Tokugawa house, and the gokenin were the lower vassals. There was no precise difference between the two in terms of income level, but a hatamoto had the right to an audience with the shogun, whereas gokenin did not. The word hatamoto literally means "origin of the flag", with the sense of 'around the flag', it is described in Japanese as 'those who guard the flag' (on the battlefield) and is often translated into English as "bannerman". Another term for the Edo-era hatamoto was jikisan hatamoto (直参旗本), sometimes rendered as "direct shogunal hatamoto", which serves to illustrate the difference between them and the preceding generation of hatamoto who served various lords.
Thank you for this information. This show is a treat for a history buff such as myself!
Will he BS his way as a war general?
Bannerlord 🙃
I am Japanese. I'm glad that there are historians with wonderful knowledge of Japanese history.
1人の日本人として海外にこれほど日本史に詳しい歴史家がいて嬉しいです。あなたより正確な日本史に疎い日本人も多いので。
William Adams, the person who Blackthorne is based on, was also named Hatamoto by Tokugawa (Toranaga in the show) but probably not as fast but more due to his services to Tokugawa some time later.
When they kept making him dive in the water I was waiting for them to make a joke about making him bathe lol
Same; figured the trickster Toranaga rooked him into taking a bath LOL
@@johntriplett4470 YES lol
It was to tire him out for the race 😂😂
Obviously that was the intention. The Sama is a great swimmer. As evidenced by the race.
Remember the old trope. "...if you don`t see them dying on screen, it has not really happened!"
I.E. No body, No Death
Future drama I’m sure of it, should be interesting
Hatamoto was a high ranking samurai title, bestowed to the inner circle of trusted retainers. They also often were the personal bodyguards of the nobles in the clan. So it's not the fact the rank itself which was impressive but the fact that Toranaga gave it to a foreigner. Entire generations of peasants spent their lives trying to purchase the title of even the lowliest samurai, and now that Blackthorne was given this rank, it showed to the rest of his entourage how much he valued him.
John ist NOT a pirate. He mentions previously that he has a "letter of marque" from the Dutch, which means he is a privateer. The big difference is that a pirate is an outlaw who attacks random ships and bases to steal for his own. A privateer may use the same methods but does it not (only) for himself but for the government he has the letter of marque from. So basically a privateer is a mercenary at sea who attacks only ships and bases he is legally authorized to from the government which hired him. In John's case only spanish and portuguese ones. He mentions also that he has served under the famous Sir Francis Drake who stopped the invasion of England by the spanish Armada in 1588. Drake not only was an admiral, before that he also was a privateer.
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Not really much of a difference to the people being raided by them! Being from Brazil a land that suffered several of theses attacks in the hands of theses "Privateers", they are not seen in such regards or distinctions!
@@RandomNPC001 Of course, I don't think he meant that he's highly regarded or whatever. He still raided and plundered, it's just that he was doing it "legally"
kinda like today's PMCs
@@hex_1733Legally according to England and Holland, everybody else would see them as criminals!! This is what got Rodrigues angry at him in the 2nd episode and Rodrigues does not even like the Portuguese! Plundering, sacking and killing still Plundering, sacking and killing no matter what one king or queen says!
As a Japanese, I am very grateful that people overseas are enjoying this period drama.
If a purely Japanese period drama were to be accepted overseas, the Kamakura period, with its rise of the samurai, might also be interesting.
If I were more fluent in English, I could tell you how interesting Japanese history is...
By the way, the killing style in this drama is very authentic. I am learning iai, and I do not feel uncomfortable with their gestures.
It is no exaggeration to say that this work is just as it was in the Warring States period as far as the manners and etiquette are concerned.
Bit of a random question but I feel like you are probably the best person to ask out of everyone in this comment section. At the 26:00 minute mark the Anjin is given the title "Hatamoto". He responds in Japanese and the subtitles claim that he is saying "Thank you". I can't quite hear what Japanese phrase he is using. Do you recognise it at all?
@@SparkyAllMighty
Anjin says "Katajikenai”. かたじけない。
This "Katajikenai" has various meanings, and the connotations vary depending on the situation.
In this case, "I am filled with gratitude for the other person's kindness and favor" is an expression of gratitude, similar to "Thank you”.
To the other person, "I am sorry for all this you have done for me. Thank you so much." and "I am afraid" are also included.
”Katajikenai" is appropriate when you are truly grateful, or when someone has been so kind to you that it was a waste of time.
However, it seems to be too casual a word to use for such a person of such a different status. Toranaga letting Anjin off the hook because He is Namban, but the meaning is appropriate.
By the way, if you use "Katajikenai" in modern Japan, you will be laughed at. It is a somewhat old word, so it is not often used in colloquial speech.
(I am not good at English and may be wrong.) Do you get the idea?
@@mintian6304 Yes, that makes perfect sense and your English is flawless! ありがとう ございます 😁
Great insight. Please continue to bless us with knowledge throughout the series, when you can. thanks!
@@SparkyAllMighty I wondered the same thing. it sounded longer, the phrase he used, vs the other times he said thank you
This episode was amazing, this show better win some Emmys
This year does not seem to have much competition. I would be suprised if it doesnt win best limited series.
Don't say that yet :p
Nolan and Fallout show incoming@@smittyjjensin558
i love this show so much! the cast is top tier, the show is gorgeous to look at, the storytelling is so precise, and i love how they play with language, especially after reading about how the script is written in english, translated into japanese, then given to a japanese playwright to then translate into more poetic dialogue that capture the nuance of period pieces.
i must also say that i really enjoy cosmo jarvis’ performance! i haven’t really seen him in anything but the way he portrays blackthorne as abrasive but idealistic with great determination is quite compelling. the “woman respecter” scene got me howling 😭
so excited to see the next episodes!!
🎉Cosmo jarvis ,He is good actor🎉
A cool detail I heard from a book reader is that Blackthorne is a true polyglot. He's not just fluent in English and Portuguese, but also Dutch, Spanish and Latin if I remember right. So it makes sense that he's picking up Japanese so quickly.
And it does make sense, given that he is a privateer (legal seaman pirate) and he has to go around the world so he needs to learn languages as he goes to avoid legal trouble 😅
In traditional Japanese archery they learn to shoot from many distances then when they get close they are trained to use their bow like a spear… loved that they showed that here… the bow was the samurai’s weapon of choice until the katana came into fruition
Until the Yari came into fruition*
I really like how they made us not like Buntaro,only to show his final stand and give him his respect as a Respected Warrior.
Keep watching 😂 Buntaro was an absolute UNIT but he's also an incredible piece of shit.
They do the same with Yabushige. Dude boiled a guy alive in ep 1 and now I'm rooting for him.
@@vincentfazioiii Right? I'm so confused. Everytime I start to root for him, I remind myself of how he boiled that man and made his nephew recite a poem for it.
Never mind… Yabushige sucks.
Mariko-sama(Akechi Tama → Hosokawa Gratia) was a famous samurai lady.
Her life was so dramatic and the record of her characteristic was "intellectual","unparalleled beauty",tragedy".
She became legend not only in Japan but also in Europe(there was a opera based on her life and it was especially loved by House of Habsburg in Austria).
And now, there is a statue of her in Kyoto(Tango).
Her father is regarded as a traitor that almost derailed Japan's unification. She's regarded as a hero who helped ensure it. Poetry.
I had a really good laugh at that scene with the captain running behind Blackthorne yelling "He actually means 'faster'!" in Japanese. 😄 It would be really easy for this series to slide into the territory of being overly serious, so I very much appreciate the skill with which the writers manage to inject the occasional bit of humor while maintaining the general tone of the setting.
For gamers who think John Blackthorns character seems familiar it’s because he’s based in real life on William Adams, the first Englishman to set foot on Japan, who later became a samurai and close advisor to the shogun. Which is what the video game Nioh is based on.
But he was never allowed to leave Japan and had to remarry in Japan, but kept paying part of his salary to his former wife in England!
His son, Joseph Adams, born in Japan in 1605, inherited the territory and the title of Anjin after his father's death (1620).
Records show that the second Anjin left for Southeast Asia in 1624 and 1635.
After that, there is a record that he erected a building in 1636, but his movements after that are unknown.
Incidentally, the first Anjin had a daughter (Susanna) besides him.
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William Adams had only one chance to return to England. This is because a British ship washed ashore in Japan.
However, he rejected the chance. The reason was that he had a fight with the captain. The captain insulted the Japanese by calling them barbarians. William was furious. He intended to return to his homeland, but he was proud of being a samurai and had a deep attachment to Japan.
I think it's a very romantic story, but I feel it was a waste to give up the opportunity to return to my home country.
@@RandomNPC001 except he WAS allowed after 10 years of being there. He even charted vessels out of Japan for trade purposes.
The character of John Blackthorn is based on the real William Adams. He knew at least 5 languages before reaching Japan. English, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch and Latin. So, him picking up Japanese quickly is not unusual
So I just looked up the history which this is based on. John is based on William Adams, an English navigator who actually became a key advisor to Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toranaga).
Edo later became Tokyo.
thanks for this. I literally just looked up Edo on google maps and was confused
And Tokyo later became Disneyland.
The main guy looks like Tom Hardy mixed with Viggo Mortenson from the LOTR's films. Am I crazy? It hurts how much that's the best comparison I can think of.😅
I genuinely thought it was Tom Hardy because of the extravagant beard and then no beard, until the opening credits of episode 3 😅
I see Rick from the walking dead sometimes xD
For a while during the first episode, for a bit I thought he was deaged Russell Crowe because of his voice lmao
No I thought it was Ryan Phillippe had buffed up like Tom Hardy
@@Jtrent some people I could imagine would’ve been confused
Samurai armour is just perfection🤤
“Hatamoto” means a high ranking samurai (or a retainer) in the Tokugawa (Toranaga) shogunate. It has a privilege of being a direct audience to the shogun (in this case, Toranaga himself) whenever he wants to discuss political affairs while the lower ranking samurai can’t.
7:52 that scene/ delivery really reminded me of that Australian guy, "A succulent Chinese meal"
The 2 pilots relationship is like Jack Sparrow and Barbossa i love it❤
You mean vice versa. The Shogun book came first.
@@flaggerifyI’m sure they are just making an observation, never mentioned timelines.
@@flaggerify they just said that they are similar, didn't say Jack/Barbossa came first.
@@goblin6914 Not everyone watching this knows "Shogun" is 50 years old.
@@flaggerify Then make your own comment about it, the 2 pilots relationship is similar to Jack/Barbossa regardless of release date.
The acting continues to impress me.
My favorite moments this episode are:
How well the actor playing Blackthorne did the "distraction" scene to keep them from looking in the traveling chair
Toranaga calling Buntara by his government name and then bowing to him
Buntara all through the episode. Especially that "second wind" when he took the battle off the jetty and back onto the docks after his Sama witnessed him!
Agreed Definitely the best episode yet I can't wait to see more
most of the high samurai ladys are trained in combat too. the favourite weapon for this ladys are the naginata.
Loving the show so much. Had a beaming smile at the ending.
14:00 the man in the center, I see the sense of honor in your eyes and your heart and the regret of living in a world where these values have been lost.
Buntaro was a definition of bushi (warrior) And for the warriors in those societies, death in battle means everything.
A swim = how toranaga got him to take a BATH.
I hope they explain Buntaro's character like it does in the book. His marriage was politically arranged one to a dishonored man's daughter (Mariko) who was not allowed to join her father in death. So she retains the distainful reputation/dishonor of her family and Buntaro is salty because of it and so resents her, her family and his situation because it affects his honor & reputation.
Buntaro had the whole Paz Visla thing going.
love how exposed the sea scene is, it looks great!
That's insane. It looked terrible and fake.
@NYGChris it's realistic, that blinding glare can happen from the reflection of the sun on the water's surface, this can also happen when it's misty. I think I first learned about it from Corridor Digital's vfx reactions if I'm not mistaken.
Yeah. These sort of nautical light conditions are really hard to get right. And very often studios don't bother because people will just claim it looks fake anyway, but this is exactly what it looks like.
you've never been on the sea, have you?@@NYGChris
FYI: Hatamoto means "Bannerman" samurai of high prestige for their lords!
the buggery conversation at the end LOL
A descendant of the family that Toda, the character in the story, was modeled after became Japan's prime minister in the 1990s.
A funny scene in this is when The Regent jumps into the sea with John
Its supposed to be a sentimental moment , however Sanada's way of diving into the water basically meant that he just smacked himself full impact , and that would hurt you badly 😅
That's actually how it's depicted in the book! Toranaga belly flops like 10 times in a row but keeps on going until he figures it out. Not sure why they changed it here but it was still a great scene!
@@LSThrowaway OH ! Thats cool lol
well to be fair he was just then learning how to dive 😭😭
@@nikkia4701 its still funny because I've felt the impact before , and it makes me giddy seeing it for some reason
even if you die you can be resurrected.
Hatamoto means "near the flag" in Japanese. In Japan, a flag is raised during a battle to indicate the location of the commander, and this term is used to describe the personal guard who guards the area near the flag.
I didn't even know the character Buntaro that well, but his final moments made me cry.
The best part is him making him dive a ton so that hes tired for the race 😂
Making Blackthorne dive again and a again, was a way of making him bathe, I think Toranaga did not need a lesson in how to dive.
'Bugger' is also used as a fairly tame curse word over here in New Zealand and Australia. Especially in Australia, people use it to refer to other people endearingly all the time, like calling someone a 'good bugger'. Which, now that I read it after this episode, sounds like a completely different thing...
One minor note; the 'heir' is not the heir to the emperor. At this point, and really until the Meiji Restoration in the late 1800's, the Emperor was just chilling in Kyoto doing absolutely f**k all. They were almost entirely apolitical. The little kid is heir to become effectively the regent or chancellor of the realm, ruling in the Emperor's name, like his father.
shoguns were like the prime minister of a monarchy
But more badass@@wh_kers
The ending conversation was so funny. Especially the last 10ish seconds with Aaron and Eric.
Samurai were excellent marksmen. IRL, their main weapons on horseback were bow/arrow and a spear called a Yari. It's really awesome seeing this show portray the samurai as beastly archers.
I’m convinced Toranaga had Anjin San keep diving in to substitute for a bath.
It’s also a power move by ensuring John remains loyal to him. It’s also a way to test John’s patience and tolerance of following orders.
*SPOILERS*
Looks like you guys are enjoying this remake as much as I am. I saw the 1980 mini-series which is an excellent adaptation in its own right, but with modern technology they are able to add to the cinematography, costume & set design & overall atmospheric look that seems to aim for authenticity above all else. This new remake is beautiful & everyone is inhabiting their role i.e. the acting is superlative.
The first 2 episodes set up everything from the first contact of the English with Anjin & his crew with Anjin learning of the political machinations & artifices that are happening between the various Japanese clans which is only exacerbated by the disingenuous hypocrites, the Portuguese traders & missionaries. Now we got to see some action.
That ending was emotional. “Toda Hirokatsu!” That was badass. I hope he survives somehow. The banter between Anjin & Rodrigues was classic. We are seeing the begruding respect Anjin is starting to have for Toranaga & his clan, & vice versa. The first 3 episodes have been amazing. It sucks having to wait for the next episode!
(NO SPOILERS) Hatamoto will be explained in the next episode, I highly imagine. They just played it into the break to create a minor mystery to keep folks hooked. We won't spoil the effect. But I'd really imagine that the only wait we'll have before getting significantly more information will be the week we have to wait for the next episode to drop.
The Portuguese would also drop off a part of their ship`s crew onto new lands and they would be told to procreate with the natives. This way they could later claim that they had ancestral claims, just in case someone would show up later and try to claim the land from them. Such claims would often be brought up to other kings and or Pope in order to get alliances in fighting off other naval powers who wanted their new lands!
Man, this actor is doing a phenomenal job playing Blackthorne, and the writers have done great with the adaptation. Somethings have been left out, but I do get why since they obviously want to get into the meat of the story much quicker than the book. This is shaping up to be my favorite book adaptation in media.
14:22 Buntaro might try to swim away, if weren't for the enormous weight he was carrying... Not from the armor but from the massive balls he has
Didn't know Rodriguez here was same Richard Alpert from LOST 19:26
This is a famous Zen parable about a fictional account of a Zen master asking the three most powerful warlords of the Sengoku or Warring states period (Oda Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi and Tokugawa Ieyasu) what they would do if a hototogisu or cuckoo didn't sing. It was a parable which illustrates the character of each of these three different types of leaders.
Oda Nobunaga (Ishido) was known for his fierceness and cruelty and thus would answer, "Kill it."
Toyotomi Hideyoshi (The Taiko) was the most cunning and would therefore coyly say, "convince it."
Tokugawa Ieyasu (Toronaga) was the most diplomatic and patient so he would most likely say, "Wait for it."
Don't think Ishido is a Nobunaga proxy (on account that he'd already have been dead by the time the series starts). Pretty sure he's based on Mistunari Ishida.
@@H34rtofFire This is true. Ishido is modeled after Mitsunari Ishida.
Nobunaga Oda, who unified the country, died 1582, 18 years before this story is set. Nobunaga was betrayed and killed by his retainer, Mitsuhide Akechi.
Toyotomi Hideyoshi(Taiko) defeated Akechi and unified japan.
Awesome reaction of my favorite episode of Shogun!!!!!!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Great episode!
You're meant to have mixed feelings about Buntaro.
Yeah, he is a dick to his wife and son. But, he is also an honorable and skilled samurai, dedicated to his Sama. It's hard to get that "likable rascal" thing right. Especially if his "bad side" is what would be domestic abuse in modern times. So, he is kinda "well-balanced" at heing a dick, but not outright abusive or physically mean to them.
Yeah I hope they explain his character like it does in the book. His marriage was politically arranged one to a dishonored man's daughter (Mariko) who was not allowed to join her father in death. So she retains the distainful reputation/dishonor of her family and Buntaro is salty because of it and so resents her, her family and his situation because it affects his honor & reputation.
Has anyone else noticed how Cosmo Jarvis sounds exactly like the late great Richard Burton?
"I'm getting off from this buggery stuff."
Eric from Blindwave March 2024.
Richard Burton! THAT'S who Cosmo Jarvis reminds me of!
Sorry, took me three episodes and I'm sure it's been mentioned before but hell, that scene where he talks about why he left England and his family... Burton's ghost. :)
Hiroyuki Sanada who played Toronaga was also so badass in “The last Samurai”
A hatamoto (旗本, "Guardian of the banner") was a high ranking samurai in the direct service of the Tokugawa shogunate of feudal Japan.[1] While all three of the shogunates in Japanese history had official retainers, in the two preceding ones, they were referred to as gokenin
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“Put your phone down” 😂
I really loved to see Mariko's Naginata fighting. It is so good and cute!
Yesterday I saw high-school-girls carrying Naginata-brade on the train. I am glad if it gets more popular for their club activities here in Japan inspired by Mariko.
The story about your grandma using "bugger" is funny because that's still in wide use in the UK. At least in the area I'm from. Maybe older Americans kept more British slang?
I've watched a lot of Samurai movies, my favorite being the Musashi Miyamoto trilogy starring Toshiro Mifune. 13:42 is one of the best moments of them all.
Hatamoto are like the viking hauskarls. A Daimo's personal guard.
Be respectful! Call him LORD toranaga not yoshii lol
(Ref: 36:24) Toda Hiromatsu is the father-in-law of Mariko and definitely not dead. You want to say Toda Hirokatsu (Buntaro).
This was a superb episode.
A hatamoto is a high-level retainer within the Shōgunate. But, they were the higher level of the two levels of vassals and had a direct line to the shōgun.
At this point, Eric should be called Eric the Red
Hatamoto means guardian of the banner
The guy fighting on the dock lived because in the trailer it showed a scene of him shooting a arrow that has not happened yet
7:50 Can't believe John is the 1st one in history to use the Gaijin Card
Blackthorne gets named samurai just like that? I remember it happening later in the original mini series.
Thanks to Eric, Calvin and Aaron! 🗾 Charlotte Brändström directed this episode.
Buntaro hasn't done that famous arrows scene with Jon in the original series yet...
I don´t think that it´s 5 votes that the council needs, they just need 4 votes, but it´s just that the council has to consist of 5 people to even allow them to vote.
i swear the part where buntaro dies uses the same score as the bear carmen and claire breakup scene
Parts of this episode had me on the edge of my seat. Not many shows do that. Just so good so, really being interested in feudal Japan makes it that much better. I’m assuming Mariko’s husband isn’t dead.
Hatamoto is the Master of the Flag, the person who carries the lord flat.
Hatamoto means "direct retainer of a shogun" or "vassal of the shogun".
"You play a game of friends and enemies"
There's no such thing as friends in this game.
Toda is the family name - Toda Mariko is the wife, Toda Hiromatsu is the dignified older Samurai, Toda Hirokatsu is the husband, or "Buntaro" to his friends.
The order of surname and given name in Japanese is reversed, so Toda Hiromatsu is the older lord who delivered Toranaga's resignation, Toda Hirokatsu (Buntaro) is his son, Toda Mariko is his son's wife, and Toda Fujiko is his daughter who received the ashes of her husband and infant son this episode.
if i remember correctly in the book he was also offered a little boy companion when he refused the woman companion
Anyone know the music that was playing during Buntaro's last stand?
HATAMOTO translates as "under the flag".
His role is to fight and defend beside his lord.
Of course that guy isn't dead. He'll show up just as the english pilot hooks up with his wfie.
Cosmo Jarvis sounds like Richard Burton.
Small note but the bit about Toranaga asking John to train soldiers in Western doctrine.
Isn''t Japan at this point kinda already doing that?
I mean in Europe you have heavy knights or men at arms backed with pikemen and arquebusiers and cavalry.
And in Japan, armoured samurai backed with spear ashigaru and tanegashima (matchlock) gunners and cavalry.
I'v seen a preview scene where they practice with artillery so perhaps something along the lines of that?
Idk it's a small thing, it was just my understanding that at this point in 1600 Japan have already been using firearms and artillery for decades.
So not really much differences to Europe except for the equipment, weapons and armour they use.
The main difference really always was artillery. The Chinese were using gunpowder for sieges (e.g. bombs and incendiary devices) since the 11th century. Europeans were using cannons in siege warfare since the 14th century at least.
Finding some use for the stuff isn't that hard. It explodes, that's useful all the time.
What really changed was that artillery became mobile and accurate enough to use it on the battlefield. And an experienced sailor who's used to very well made ship guns could be very deadly in an area that mostly used by comparison outdated weapons. Especially for cannons. Even if the cannons were only slightly better (and they usually were a lot better), the advantage in range very often meant that you could win quite handily by simply wiping out the enemy cannons first, while they couldn't retaliate.
Also, a lot is happening in Europe at the time. Right at the outset of the 30 Years War, during the Dutch War of Independence, in the middle of the Ottoman invasions of Europe and their first siege of Vienna. There is a lot happening and Europe at this point is right at the edge of military development.
You're right, it's not "dumb Japanese barely know what a gun is", but even if we talk a difference of a few decades, that's more than enough to decisively win a war.
4:06 😂😂😂
I Love This Episode Better Than The First 2
is there anyone here who has played samurai warriors game? this show and the game are based on the same period of japanese history..yoshi toranaga is based on ieyasu tokugawa
Scorpion meets Nathan Algren.
The barbarian reminds me so much of Jon Snow😂
Bro didn't want to take a bath so they forced him lol
hatamoto mean bannerman in english. so he become a vassal to toranaga.
"My boy Tudor, and my daughter Elizabeth" - rly? lol
either he just bullshits, or he is the most English Englishman at the time