Personal space is one thing and she has every right to be vocal about it. It was everything else she kept saying afterwards that was just blatantly homophobic
@@xx73140 No it wasn't, that could simply be a trigger for her. She said absolutely NOTHING homophobic...give ONE example. My issue that you apparently don't want to address is how everyone smiled in her face, agreed with her, and the SECOND she left...pretty much laughed and called her crazy...if you're going to speak on something THAT would be a great topic.
I Hate It When People Do That. Pam Was Clear With Aubrey That It Wasn't Personal And She Meant No Offense To Her So What's The Problem? Speak Up While The Other Person Is Still In The Room So That Any Misunderstanding Could Be Cleared Up Immediately. This, Right Here Is One Reason Why I Don't Like The Company Of Other Females. Just Fake.
I mean i get what she saying but she couldve said it better like please dont feel me like that but saying god delivered u from being gay that dont sound right like she could say i experimented i was with a women but i realize im not attracted to women like that and thats ok but choose your words carefully thats just my opinion
First off I'ma say RIP Irish and my condolences to Lemisha and family and Meelah(702).♥️🙏🏾 Secondly I think it's crazy how the twins were acting. calling the girls old, making old jokes etc. They were out with that 1 maybe 2 song career around the same time all the other girl groups were out but nobody was checking for no Cherish foh. All them ladies Cherish talked about actually were being checked for and still!! They the ones still being invited to do shows, tributes,reunions,etc. Their music is still being streamed and their videos are still being played by fans. Nobody be checking for no Cherish!!! When I'm going down memory lane I always play "808", "Bring it On","All I Want", "Where My Girls At","Steelo","Get it Together" definitely bump "Can't You See", "Kissing You" and so on. Never do I think about "Rock wit it" or whatever it's called. Never discredit the OGs, days what's wrong with ppl today
For the folks in the house who took Pam's comment personally.....y'all really need to grow up. Obrey was leaning on her so if she finds it uncomfortable then that's what it is for her.
Sis I agree and also she wasn't just leaning on her When they ran the clip back Aubrey had her arm across pamsleg and rubbing her finger across Pam knee.. I have never done that wit none of my female friends ... plus wtf Pam had a right to say what she said this is a show if I'm telling ppl that I'm no longer a certain way and they see this shit on camera it looks like I'm a liar so watch your physical moves when you close to me ain't nothing wrong wit that ... cause I'm pretty sure had she not said anything and this aired tmz or whomever would speculate that they're have sex on the low or something... and keily needs to shut the F up ... let her feel how she feel
@@louijacob4132 No she doesnt. Ive seen Aubrey on many tv shows, she has NEVER just caressed a strangers leg like that. Esp someone from another generation. I dont think Pam was tempted either. I think she knows what kind of world we live in where lies/rumors are more important that the truth and she wants to lead her life a certain way so she spoke up for herself. Im glad she did bc too many women put their feelings on the backburner for the sake of not hurting someones feelings even tho her own feelings r beign hurt bc she feels silenced.
@@dadriamcgregor8346 Facts. I cant stand this society now. Now they really expect ppl to shut up if what u have to say isnt what the mainstream wants to hear. Im so proud of Pam.
I mean..Aubrey was invading Pam's personal space, whether Pam made a reference to her sexuality or not, if she just spoke up for not wanting to be touched, she has the right.Some people just don't like to be touched.And it can be for various reasons.
Right! Who just caresses somebody's leg like that? Esp when they just met them?? Aubrey is lying and then tried to be disrespectful with that "box" comment at the end-all bc she felt rejected. WW tears.
I commend her for sticking up for herself. Many times, we continue to be quiet and let things go. Meantime, it happens again. She addressed it respectfully. I don't see how she was wrong.
They act like they don’t remember how much this women was bullied on both sides for so many years. I feel bad for Pam because she will never be understood especially not now. Poor girl.
1. Back because of Irish… RIP Queen 2. Pam was not wrong….she went through a lifestyle change and certain things trigger her. Thats not homophobia thats her experience. Leave her alone.
Pam just DONT WANT NO TEMPTATION, ME NEITHER. You HAVE TO STAY AWAY from that IF you use to be a lesbian or if its of any LGBTQ. THATS how you STAY AWAY, LEAD NOT INTO TEMPTATION & STAY DELIVERED. ❤😊👍🏾🙌🏾
I didn’t take offense too Aubrey because that’s probably a coping mechanism… she probably seen Pam as like the mother ( not because of her age but because of her wisdom ) of the group and was drawn too her for protection … cause my baby sister best friend does the same exact thing but she’s also seen and been though things that’s why I didn’t mind that she did it because it made her feel comfortable… but LET ME SAY THIS I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND PAM PERSPECTIVE YOU SHOULD NEVER BE MADE TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE… delivery was definitely tough but I can see why she would say that .
But I bet your baby sisters bff doesnt just go around caressing th elegs of older women that she, literally, just met. All these little facts add up, and they matter. Most older black women arent used to being caressed by ANY woman, much less a white, rapidly-aging, former popstar, whose face looks like a Picasso painting. Ppl act like that isnt strange to most ppl. It is. Not to mention, Aubrey also has a reputation so I think that also plays a role in Pam not wanting to have her image intertwined with someone who has been at the center of controversy. Look at her face, she is Hollywood driven, meaning she will do anything to stay relevant. Also, Im so sorry for your baby sisters bff. Her story is TOTALLY different than this situation. I pray that she finds peace and healing. It makes me so sad knowing that theres so many hurt/traumatized young girls/women out here.
Kiely, a person can pray ANYTHING AWAY. Also, it depends on if a person believes they are born that way, a phase, or a lifestyle that they choose to live. So leave Pam alone. Your belief system isn't the same as hers. To me, it is a choice.
Why was Aubrey touching Pam like that?. It's not okay for Aubrey to invade Pam space like that. I'm so astonished at how they turn it around on Pam like the weirdness is her fault.
I don’t appreciate the statement that Kaylee made about Pam. As if we are supposed to be lost forever and we’re never supposed to grow. She said that you can’t pray homosexuality away I am living proof I’m married to a man with children so she needs to get her facts straight
I think she just broke out (Pam) because people assume she was gay and she wanted it to be known. I woulda definitely spoke my mine but woulda said it definitely is sure Aubrey didn’t mean it but 🤦♀️
Its not that offensive its just how she said it u dont pray the gay away much like u cant pray to be str8 all pam had to say was pleas dont lean on me like that
@@kevkpatt She said God delivered her from that, nothing about praying gay away! The other cast member interpreted that. She can say whatever she wants, however she wants if her personal space is being infringed upon! You Mofo's think you reserve some special way to be spoken to or about... FOH!
These Ladies need to have Past Girlband Icons from The Marvelettes, Ronettes, or The Pointer Sisters and have them remember they were riding on "their" Coattails. In The UK Little Mix "thanked" Girls Aloud for paving the way for them. They create as many Girlbands as The US.
They ( i.e., Little Miix didn't go back far enough...how about Spice Girls and All Saints, and before that Banarama and .Nolan Sisters tongo further back.
@@kelikel2 Oh yes, but remember Girls Aloud showed that you can find a talented Group on TV. That was what I was referring to. Sadly so many Girlband Icons have died from The Emotions, Supremes, Marvelettes, Ronettes, Pointer Sisters and many of the Children of this generation have no idea who they are.
I love Cherish but I hope the guilt of Irish being gone is eating them alive. They were constantly making jokes about their age and their blood pressure as well as being blatantly disrespectful to Irish and Misha. R.I.P Irish fly high girl we'll miss you. 👼😇
Pam’s comment was not cool. Not wanting Aubrey and others to touch up on her is absolutely okay (I’m the same way about people in my space)but for her to say she was “delivered” from liking women makes it seem like it was something she needed to be saved from. Changing your preference in partners is totally fine but that comment sounded like some internalized homophobia.
Nahh i remember the girls that got bullied in elementary and middle school for even “looking lesbian” which was Tom Boyish girls. It was sad cus nobody realizes how that shyt sticks with you.
I know a person that was lesbian, she was the stud. She has been saved and now with a man. People can change their life stop being with the same sex. I dont like reality shows, i do like Pam, Irish, Misha, and Nivea the most.
😒🤦🏾♀️ what are you even saying rn? She was making her feel uncomfortable. So she let her and all of them know, so that it doesn’t happen again from any of them. What’s wrong with that? Suffer in silence, F outta here with that. Smh
I just feel like the 702 girls didn't bring no confidence and I really liked 702 they were one of my favorite groups in the 90' s but on here they were or seemed to be so insecure and they knew they were coming on a show to sing so they should've been home warming up their voices I'm begging to see why they never really did anything else after their group broke up they need to build their confidence because when they were in the group they all had their time where they got sing and I must say the confidence was there then Irish sing like she scared smhh
I'm sorry to hear about Irish. If this was 2 years ago this shows you never know what someone is going thru. She wasn't well.
Exact same thing I was thinking while watching this....😔🙏🏾🕊️
Team Pam! She’s right to tell them about who she was and who she currently is… She’s changed.
Team Pam! Good for her! Thats her experience.. no one can take that away. How she feels is how she feels.
If she is lesbian she will die lesbian period!
She is a really nice person!!!
YEP.
As a homosexual, I stand with Pam. She was very vocal about her personal space. And boundaries are a thing that should exist.
Personal space is one thing and she has every right to be vocal about it. It was everything else she kept saying afterwards that was just blatantly homophobic
@@xx73140 No it wasn't, that could simply be a trigger for her. She said absolutely NOTHING homophobic...give ONE example. My issue that you apparently don't want to address is how everyone smiled in her face, agreed with her, and the SECOND she left...pretty much laughed and called her crazy...if you're going to speak on something THAT would be a great topic.
Pam was a homosexual so I believe she is just trying to stay away from that temptation
@Kaydee ねこ exactly 👍🏽💯
@@butterflyygyrlsworld5106 because pam she heard stuff about her been that way so that's why she didn't want her touching her
Nivea is so funny. I love her voice.
Pam’s braids was always on point
Kinda fake how Aubrey said she wasn’t offended when Pam mentioned it but as soon as Pam leaves she’s “so offended on so many levels”😂😂
Ikr 🤭🤭
Riiight!!!!! Lol
She was trying to avoid further confrontation
@@DanceArchives242 faced because she wanted that box totally😅
I Hate It When People Do That. Pam Was Clear With Aubrey That It Wasn't Personal And She Meant No Offense To Her So What's The Problem? Speak Up While The Other Person Is Still In The Room So That Any Misunderstanding Could Be Cleared Up Immediately. This, Right Here Is One Reason Why I Don't Like The Company Of Other Females. Just Fake.
Pam I'm proud of you All praises to the Most high
Good for you Pam for speaking your truth. 💯
I mean i get what she saying but she couldve said it better like please dont feel me like that but saying god delivered u from being gay that dont sound right like she could say i experimented i was with a women but i realize im not attracted to women like that and thats ok but choose your words carefully thats just my opinion
@@kevkpatt Yea I’m sure she will be better with words. We are all learning.
@@sanaa9313 yup
@@kevkpatt maybe she said what she meant which was God delivered her from homosexuality.
@@chrissyh3270 u cant pray the gay away
Respect people's personal boundaries.
That’s right Pam I’m proud of you love
Talk that real Pam!! Don't let then make u feel wrong about it! They the ones wierd.
First off I'ma say RIP Irish and my condolences to Lemisha and family and Meelah(702).♥️🙏🏾
Secondly I think it's crazy how the twins were acting. calling the girls old, making old jokes etc. They were out with that 1 maybe 2 song career around the same time all the other girl groups were out but nobody was checking for no Cherish foh. All them ladies Cherish talked about actually were being checked for and still!! They the ones still being invited to do shows, tributes,reunions,etc. Their music is still being streamed and their videos are still being played by fans. Nobody be checking for no Cherish!!! When I'm going down memory lane I always play "808", "Bring it On","All I Want", "Where My Girls At","Steelo","Get it Together" definitely bump "Can't You See", "Kissing You" and so on. Never do I think about "Rock wit it" or whatever it's called. Never discredit the OGs, days what's wrong with ppl today
Boom! Exactly 💯
I had to look up the group cause I legit didn’t remember them.
Rip Irish 😢✨🖤
For the folks in the house who took Pam's comment personally.....y'all really need to grow up. Obrey was leaning on her so if she finds it uncomfortable then that's what it is for her.
Sis I agree and also she wasn't just leaning on her When they ran the clip back Aubrey had her arm across pamsleg and rubbing her finger across Pam knee.. I have never done that wit none of my female friends ... plus wtf Pam had a right to say what she said this is a show if I'm telling ppl that I'm no longer a certain way and they see this shit on camera it looks like I'm a liar so watch your physical moves when you close to me ain't nothing wrong wit that ... cause I'm pretty sure had she not said anything and this aired tmz or whomever would speculate that they're have sex on the low or something... and keily needs to shut the F up ... let her feel how she feel
Aubrey does this when she feels comfortable with u. Pam took it as : here’s the devil coming to tempt me lol
@@louijacob4132 No she doesnt. Ive seen Aubrey on many tv shows, she has NEVER just caressed a strangers leg like that. Esp someone from another generation. I dont think Pam was tempted either. I think she knows what kind of world we live in where lies/rumors are more important that the truth and she wants to lead her life a certain way so she spoke up for herself. Im glad she did bc too many women put their feelings on the backburner for the sake of not hurting someones feelings even tho her own feelings r beign hurt bc she feels silenced.
@@dadriamcgregor8346 Facts. I cant stand this society now. Now they really expect ppl to shut up if what u have to say isnt what the mainstream wants to hear. Im so proud of Pam.
AUDREY.
I stand with Pam.
I mean..Aubrey was invading Pam's personal space, whether Pam made a reference to her sexuality or not, if she just spoke up for not wanting to be touched, she has the right.Some people just don't like to be touched.And it can be for various reasons.
Right! Who just caresses somebody's leg like that? Esp when they just met them?? Aubrey is lying and then tried to be disrespectful with that "box" comment at the end-all bc she felt rejected. WW tears.
@@DanceArchives24 Yesss!Exactly!💯💯💯
I commend her for sticking up for herself. Many times, we continue to be quiet and let things go. Meantime, it happens again. She addressed it respectfully. I don't see how she was wrong.
@@DanceArchives24 Exactly!
Watching Irish just broke my heart:(
Pam spoke truth
They act like they don’t remember how much this women was bullied on both sides for so many years. I feel bad for Pam because she will never be understood especially not now. Poor girl.
WAY TO GO Pam!
It's her choice and no shade. She held respect but definitely made a stand on where she stand. But she's been through alot man
4:14 Keily was like "me too....ohh" lol she still telling on herself lol
I noticed that too!!!! Lol I think thats also why she reacted the way she did. I cant stand her.
1. Back because of Irish… RIP Queen
2. Pam was not wrong….she went through a lifestyle change and certain things trigger her. Thats not homophobia thats her experience. Leave her alone.
I can see why the other 3lw members don't talk to Kiley
I see they argue but don’t lay hands! Only grown woman show I saw like this I love it. Talk it out or leave it be
2:22 its fallon not trying to laugh while seeing the other girls reaction while felisha fixing her hair for me😭😭😭😭🤣
💀
I don’t like how they were so weird about Pam. It’s her experience and her truth and don’t touch her tf
R.I.P Irish ❤
What was not okay , about her setting boundaries about her personal space ?
Irish's vocal are there but she needs some confidence and to stop smoking
This is the one time I agree with Kiely
Same HERE 💯
I don't like people touching me without my consent. I don't agree with her comments on sexuality but her feelings are valid re being touched.
Pam just DONT WANT NO TEMPTATION, ME NEITHER. You HAVE TO STAY AWAY from that IF you use to be a lesbian or if its of any LGBTQ. THATS how you STAY AWAY, LEAD NOT INTO TEMPTATION & STAY DELIVERED. ❤😊👍🏾🙌🏾
"Oh... The low octive!!!" 🤣🤣
The twins really bother me
Extremely arrogant.
I’m so glad she got delivered of that❤🕊️
Keily you dont know the lord.
I wasn’t gon say it but I definitely thought it
I didn’t take offense too Aubrey because that’s probably a coping mechanism… she probably seen Pam as like the mother ( not because of her age but because of her wisdom ) of the group and was drawn too her for protection … cause my baby sister best friend does the same exact thing but she’s also seen and been though things that’s why I didn’t mind that she did it because it made her feel comfortable… but LET ME SAY THIS I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND PAM PERSPECTIVE YOU SHOULD NEVER BE MADE TO FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE… delivery was definitely tough but I can see why she would say that .
But I bet your baby sisters bff doesnt just go around caressing th elegs of older women that she, literally, just met. All these little facts add up, and they matter. Most older black women arent used to being caressed by ANY woman, much less a white,
rapidly-aging, former popstar, whose face looks like a Picasso painting. Ppl act like that isnt strange to most ppl. It is. Not to mention, Aubrey also has a reputation so I think that also plays a role in Pam not wanting to have her image intertwined with someone who has been at the center of controversy. Look at her face, she is Hollywood driven, meaning she will do anything to stay relevant. Also, Im so sorry for your baby sisters bff. Her story is TOTALLY different than this situation. I pray that she finds peace and healing. It makes me so sad knowing that theres so many hurt/traumatized young girls/women out here.
I don't like dem twins, but I love Nivea and Pam!
Kiely, a person can pray ANYTHING AWAY. Also, it depends on if a person believes they are born that way, a phase, or a lifestyle that they choose to live. So leave Pam alone. Your belief system isn't the same as hers. To me, it is a choice.
I'm not sure why Kiely did the low octave range. She can go high and she has a pretty soft voice.
She explained later that she was the only one who could hit the low octave.
Yea, even in the last two groups, she liked to sing the lower octaves.
Pam is very mature
Why was Aubrey touching Pam like that?. It's not okay for Aubrey to invade Pam space like that. I'm so astonished at how they turn it around on Pam like the weirdness is her fault.
Pam have everybody to say what she said. Everybody got a problem with somebody trying to get right with God. Yall hella foolish good luck with that.
Being a self hating homophobe is never the move but okay
Go Pam!!!🎉 Praise God! You're beautiful, and HE IS worthy to he praised!
Pam in ari Lenoxx need a song
Why was kiely all excited about Pam sexuality?
she is bisexual
The white girl said she didn’t take it personally, but was offended in the confessionals.
I don’t appreciate the statement that Kaylee made about Pam. As if we are supposed to be lost forever and we’re never supposed to grow. She said that you can’t pray homosexuality away I am living proof I’m married to a man with children so she needs to get her facts straight
Hahahaha YEA, RIGHT‼️😂🤣😭🤣🤣😭
Great show!!!
I think she just broke out (Pam) because people assume she was gay and she wanted it to be known. I woulda definitely spoke my mine but woulda said it definitely is sure Aubrey didn’t mean it but 🤦♀️
I’m mad I’m just now hearing about this show
aubrey went from show stopping to show hopping😆...come thru baddie🤣
So everything is offensive, when you take a heterosexual stance? 🤔 FOH!
Its not that offensive its just how she said it u dont pray the gay away much like u cant pray to be str8 all pam had to say was pleas dont lean on me like that
@@kevkpatt She said God delivered her from that, nothing about praying gay away! The other cast member interpreted that. She can say whatever she wants, however she wants if her personal space is being infringed upon! You Mofo's think you reserve some special way to be spoken to or about... FOH!
@@reckoatkins6152 all the fuck she had to say was dont lean on me like that bruh like thats it
@@reckoatkins6152 so God delivered her from something She never prayed for and only experimented with one woman…yeah makes a lot of since…
People are sensitive asf
Rip Irish 😢😢😢😢😢
This clip makes more sense when I learned that Misha, Irish, and the twins were all geminis. Whewww chile
These Ladies need to have Past Girlband Icons from The Marvelettes, Ronettes, or The Pointer Sisters and have them remember they were riding on "their" Coattails. In The UK Little Mix "thanked" Girls Aloud for paving the way for them. They create as many Girlbands as The US.
They ( i.e., Little Miix didn't go back far enough...how about Spice Girls and All Saints, and before that Banarama and .Nolan Sisters tongo further back.
@@kelikel2 Oh yes, but remember Girls Aloud showed that you can find a talented Group on TV. That was what I was referring to. Sadly so many Girlband Icons have died from The Emotions, Supremes, Marvelettes, Ronettes, Pointer Sisters and many of the Children of this generation have no idea who they are.
Oh the low octave😂😂😂😂
I am a homosexual who will never be delivered but I stand by Pam xx
Nivea shamari & pam❤
The way they acted after she set a boundary proves why she needed to set one!
But Aubrey y did u rub her leg like that tho Pam ain’t stupid
To be fair. The twins was shakey in the voice just like Irish. So....
I love Cherish but I hope the guilt of Irish being gone is eating them alive. They were constantly making jokes about their age and their blood pressure as well as being blatantly disrespectful to Irish and Misha. R.I.P Irish fly high girl we'll miss you. 👼😇
Whatever that girl name is God can remove any sin!!!!!!!!
I’m mad some of the Ain’t gone be herd
After watching the cherish twins on this show i do not like them smh they was doing too much especially towards misha and irish 🤦🏾
Pam’s comment was not cool. Not wanting Aubrey and others to touch up on her is absolutely okay (I’m the same way about people in my space)but for her to say she was “delivered” from liking women makes it seem like it was something she needed to be saved from. Changing your preference in partners is totally fine but that comment sounded like some internalized homophobia.
I agree and it also came off like Aubrey wanted her lol and that was far from the case
What happened to accepting people's truth
I wonder why Lemisha and Irish were casted if a “Supergroup “ was the goal? Was BET (Carlos King 😂) being shady???
Yes! 😄
Aubrey was not just leaning on her she was rubbing her leg and knee...trying to be slick and Pam caught exactly what she was trying to do
I only ever considered Shamari and maybe 1 of those cherish girls and maybe Kiely if she had taken care of her body LOL
The twins talking about old but they are not spring chickens either, they’re on the brink of 40 years old and 40s is not old boo!
SAME TO ME Pam! I aint into the lesbian mess NO MO neither!! 😅😊
Let's not pretend that the 702 members are not serving vocals.
Crazy how Pam is weird when she states her boundaries
Nahh i remember the girls that got bullied in elementary and middle school for even “looking lesbian” which was Tom Boyish girls. It was sad cus nobody realizes how that shyt sticks with you.
I know a person that was lesbian, she was the stud. She has been saved and now with a man. People can change their life stop being with the same sex. I dont like reality shows, i do like Pam, Irish, Misha, and Nivea the most.
I dont think i like that lil 3lw chick..seems like the messy type
Pam is in denial lol she likes women.
I don’t agree with Pam
Pam should’ve just kept her mouth closed💯
😒🤦🏾♀️ what are you even saying rn?
She was making her feel uncomfortable. So she let her and all of them know, so that it doesn’t happen again from any of them. What’s wrong with that?
Suffer in silence, F outta here with that. Smh
That was weird
Kiely sound horrible 2
Pam actually look like ciara lol
Ciara who??
You’ve gotta be kidding?.
I just feel like the 702 girls didn't bring no confidence and I really liked 702 they were one of my favorite groups in the 90' s but on here they were or seemed to be so insecure and they knew they were coming on a show to sing so they should've been home warming up their voices I'm begging to see why they never really did anything else after their group broke up they need to build their confidence because when they were in the group they all had their time where they got sing and I must say the confidence was there then Irish sing like she scared smhh