BT-16 Round Table: Restrictions Speculation -- Who is in the Hot Seat?!

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2024
  • We are back with the majority of the crew minus Jorel to talk about what cards we think warrant a discussion about whether or not the ban hammer needs to be dropped on them. Granted this is by no means a definitive ban list that we want to see -- rather a highlight on cards that have done enough in this meta to warrant being talked about. Hope you all enjoy!
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  • @Vyse505
    @Vyse505 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    For the gabus, the biggest issue is that it limits game design for purple decks. It was overall the best draw + trash engine for purple that also gained memory. So for loop and other purple decks, it made that high roll happen more consistently.
    The issue with jet is what it allows access to and limiting game design from the level 6 perspective. Especially as we continue to get more and more powerful level 6s for yellow.

  • @Krunkidile
    @Krunkidile 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    EX5 Etemon's inheritable doesn't trigger if you blast evo on top of it, since it's a "When attacking" effect and those trigger before counter timing.
    It's a strong card, but not that strong. Etemon decks should not suffer for Numemon's crimes.

    • @Boldship
      @Boldship 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      TJ here, gotcha, my bad on understanding it then and agreed it definitely shouldn’t suffer for numemon things, I don’t think any of us want to see the card get hit tbh.

  • @joshuajaniec7427
    @joshuajaniec7427 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Unironically I think Patamon and both Ukkos are fine for the game. If you really wanna hit yellow. You hit BT14 TK. Patamon is only broken when you can manually set your security. Patamon promoting blind is fair cause it can whif. TK being able to set it up is what makes it broken

    • @amateurishauthor2202
      @amateurishauthor2202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      and continues getting value long after you've played him.

  • @pha280ntomhall4
    @pha280ntomhall4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Just hit emissary to 1 and hit platnume to 1 and that’s all you really need to hit

  • @Grizz1yKi11a
    @Grizz1yKi11a 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Choice restrict both Rapidmons with the Awakening Option. Thet solves Magnamon, because it keeps him in Vee Armors where he belongs.

    • @amateurishauthor2202
      @amateurishauthor2202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      tbh I'd choice restrict the BT14 patamon and the rapids. it's absolutely oppressive and the fact that it nets you memory is insanely good.

  • @SafetyDan101
    @SafetyDan101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My biggest issue is that cards that get around game mechanics used to be much more specific and costly. Ukkomon is just poor card design. Magnamon X would be less abnoxious if the immunity was to specific types of effects. Emissary is just too powerful and consistent with BT-14 T.K. Right now, it is a better HPD in decks that can run it.
    Bandai needs to errata cards more often rather than waiting for them to dominate 3 formats before hitting them.

  • @RoyalBlue93
    @RoyalBlue93 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think Pata and Ukko are perfectly fine, if anything the BT17 meta showed that Vaccine armour isn't fast enough to compete against Imperial and Blue Hybrid. I think you choice restrict both bt16 and promo ukko and numemon X. I think the biggest issue card in Vaccine is Emmisary, limit that to 1. I think doing those few things would slow both decks down enough to bring everything a little closer.

    • @bhammy131
      @bhammy131 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pata is most definitely a problem. Lol an evo that nets you memory should not exist. Especially when it can basically apply to a majority of a color since vaccines are likely to be yellow and is not limited to a single archetype like angels as it should've been from the start.
      Don't even get me started on Ukkos. They are not good for the game as they sped up the pace way too much for literally no cost. Both need hit.

    • @amateurishauthor2202
      @amateurishauthor2202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bhammy131 BT14 Agumon and one of the greymon's nets you memory as well. But it's not as bad as it has quite the restriction: The Greymon requires agumon in sources, you must have a tai in play, and it doesn't touch the opponent's field. if you choice restrict the Patamon and the Rapid's I think it'd be fine, but I definitely hate BT14 Patamon with a passion.

  • @Tropical_Depression.
    @Tropical_Depression. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jorel a real one, D2 is based af.
    Also, I don't think P-ukko needs to get hit at all, it just hurts too many rogue decks that need that little bit of speed.

    • @Tropical_Depression.
      @Tropical_Depression. 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Something in the Slug/bear package 100% needs to go, either of the X antis

  • @johng3817
    @johng3817 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that BT-16 Ukkomon needs to be hit more than the promo one.

  • @animerobbie
    @animerobbie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Personally I disagree with the x4 unlimit being fine. Yes there are a lot more scary things like ACEs and sec bombs however the main issue I personally have with X4 isnt X4 himself but the peripherals around X4 namely the Shoutmon that gives Rush. If x4 comes off shout better be put on as that thing is stupid for the deck its in XD

  • @SmittyThePity
    @SmittyThePity 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like these type of discussion videos. I think promo ukko and emissary get the axe. I’m wishful that heavens gets hit too as a 7 cost that can potentially wipe two lv6s seems overtuned. Magna X isnt a problem imo but to me it’s just a boring card. So poorly designed

  • @NoxKaristonn
    @NoxKaristonn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've been telling all my friends that Ukko is going to get hit by the restriction list. They call me crazy, they say that Awakening of the golden knight needs to get hit (they are crazy)

    • @HyperColosseum
      @HyperColosseum  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Everytime we on the channel talk about it, we just feel Ukkomon (either one) is almost too universal of a card that does too much.

    • @NoxKaristonn
      @NoxKaristonn 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HyperColosseum exactly, and their argument is: "Ukko can go in every deck" and that is exactlyone of the problems.

  • @jatocks
    @jatocks 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I hope they dont touch ukko i just got the bigukko. I dont see why they would touch nume x or monza x. I can definitely see them hitting pata and the other vaccine cards

  • @Timmycon101
    @Timmycon101 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    SUPER BIAS OPINION. BUT...... UNRESTRICT BT-7 DORUGREYMON

  • @crimson35124
    @crimson35124 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    free greymonx

  • @Digicord
    @Digicord 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lets be honest, Patamon is better than, and is used across a broader range of decks than the Geogreymon that was banned. Patamon, Promo Ukkomon, Heavens Judgement and either Nume/Monza X for the chop.

  • @Coolpanic45
    @Coolpanic45 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Niceeee

  • @shxnsei722
    @shxnsei722 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The bt16 uko can honestly stay at 4 like it gives options while the other ukko just outright pays for itself nume x and Monzae x agree but more on the nume heavens judgment seems more as a necessary emissary to 1hpd for yellow, magna x high generic ,pata severely busted, etemon generic