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The little comedy edits by Wolf really make these, and this one especially. Even the crew needed a lift with how depressing this movie is, thanks Wolf for giving us excellent moments of levity. FvJ is definitely the most entertaining, but Dream Warriors is the better film/story. Definitely the only ones that are worth watching.
For the record, he also said that he liked the remake. He just didn't like that we didn't have a chance to "meet the kids" before Freddy "began his cat & mouse" with them. I agree on both accounts.
@DonnaCPunk That sucks. Idc much, but I do remember watching that show when it first came out and being pleasantly surprised by it. I ended up putting it just below My Name is Earl. Those daytime sitcoms and cop shows usually suck so it's always nice to see them make good TV, especially since here in America those channels (Nbc, Abc, Cbs) are the exclusive media diet of alot of older folks who deserve better TV.
Freddy being a confirmed diddler is probably the most contentious part of the reboot. Something weird is one of the original ideas for Freddy VS Jason was Freddy worked at camp Crystal Lake and diddled Jason. Thankfully they didn't go with that idea
I always assumed Freddie being a diddler was implied. There’s basically one serial killer ever who targeted a large number of children, as most of them target adults, and even Wayne Williams killed many adults and was never convicted of murdering a child. But it’s easier to picture a pdf who does naughty things and then kills to hide the evidence.
The newspaper in Dream Child did call him child m0le$ter, tho. My only issue with this plot is just the execution, the fact he diddled but didn't kill them leaves confusing logistics, the "I dont want my kid to go talk about what he did!" is way weaker than him getting away with it through a Judge mistake and again THEY WASTE TIME with the "Is he innocent or not?" nonsense. And I hate people saying "He shouldve been innocent so he has motivation!" BUT WHY ISNT HE GOING AFTER THE PARENTS THAT WRONGFULLY KILLED HIM???
@@DeepEye1994 That would be the point. The parent’s efforts to protect their children sealed their children’s fate. Freddy would’ve been innocent but mob mentality would’ve corrupted him to the monster that we know him to be. Also killing the innocent children of the bad parents would be a fate worse than death. Which might be how Freddy feels being a dream demon. There’s some interesting ideas there
I'm surprised this franchise never had a character who experiences sleep paralysis. People already see shadow people sometimes when they go through sleep paralysis. Imagine Freddy dealing with pre-existing supernatural dream demons giving people nightmares.
The face just doesn’t allow for him to emote coupled with that he doesn’t make faces while Englund would react like when he’s pulled out of the dream in Freddy vs Jason and his eyes widened
Kinda killed it for me, the makeup is far worse somehow and the original Freddy had so much personality. This guy is just dark deep voice saying murdery things.
@@Gaizure Yeah the makeup and the remake of freddy look like a weird alien or his face looks like cheese pizza. He looks less like a burn victim and more a creature
Damn that was some good editing. I was hoping for a Nickelback reference but having it edited to be "Look at this graph!" with him holding a graph caught me so off guard that I burst out laughing. XD
I still really want a Jason X reaction. Elm Street is really fun but Jason X is just so ridiculous I had a smile on my face the whole time. It has the same energy as Freddy vs Jason and so does Jason Goes to Manhattan
@JourneyTal1 - if you want a funny watchalong/review of the whole Friday the 13th series - I don't know if you've ever heard of the guy but there's this TH-camr called "Distracted Nerd" and he's done heaps of comedy reviews of horror movies among others and he doesn't get the recognition he deserves so I recommend you check him out if you want to see hilarious Friday 13th reviews 😂
I don't know if I've already recommended this channel to you; but there's a channel that's done A Nightmare On Elm St and all the Friday the 13th movie and they're hilarious - check out Distracted Nerd - his videos/reaction are great... really doesn't get the recognition he deserves.
34:21 yeah this whole tangent is why I’m still salty over them killing Mark (comic book kid) because he did literally everything right, overcame his fear of Freddy because of his love for another, gained dream warrior powers and actively fought Freddy head on, and yet they still bent over backwards to make Freddy win. Because we can’t have ways to deal with him otherwise this demonic serial killer who exists in your sleep an unavoidable state and can alter the dreamscape to fit his liking might actually be beatable. I also feel it’s partly due to conforming to slasher troupes/standards, because for mark or that wizard kid from 3, who also stood up & faced his fears, you’d think for a horror series about dreams it would be the most imaginative/creative kids would be the ones to make it in the end (but no it’s the standard female final girl virgin regardless of if the other characters reflect the ideas of the series much better). Say what you want about the ridiculous ways Micheal or Jason survive/get resurrected but they stay consistent in how to beat them, hit them with something big enough/large a knife Lastly I really liked what you said about Freddy ultimate being a coward/someone acting bigger than they are, because yeah Freddy is sorta that. He was a serial killer who targeted children rather than adults, then when he became undead instead of targeting his killers he still went after kids, and it is though dreams where he could decide the rules/tip things in his favor as well as forcibly disadvantages them (you inevitably have to sleep else you might die of sleep deprivation). Even his weapon reflects that, the claw glove only works for an opponent who can’t fight back.
Yeah especially for me slashers or at least ones you’re aiming to do a series on should be beatable. Like some horror movies where you can’t win are good but the more movies you do it’s like “okay I get it they can’t win cool”. It’s the reason I think they messed up making Smile 2. But yeah Freddy should’ve had a run, been killed off and rebooted in another decade or so.
That would make these movies more interesting: People who CAN handle fighting Freddy in dreams, but they can't sleep all the time and Freddy can manipulate dreams to keep the strongest people away for a time, so other characters have to step up or die. I'd pay for a movie where Freddy takes a dreamer to a prison, because that character is scared of jail, but it backfires because Freddy hurt kids and prisoners go after pdf.files first.
I remember seeing this abomination in theaters. I remember the horrible CGI and constant jump scares. Freddy also looks like shit in this movie honestly. And not having Robert Englund as Freddy is a crime.
The guy dying on webcam and them uploading his own desth video reminds me of the guy with the animated presentation of his drug taking and death in 21 Jump Street
Like I said on an earlier video. Freddy is the only character that can really get away with "playing with his food" cause what can someone realistically do against him? By making him a super serious, no fun allowed killer it contradicts this. If he's not playing around cause it's fun why doesn't he just use his super dream powers to obliterate the elm street children? Because then the movie couldn't happen. They took THE thing that made Freddy a really unique killer and removed it.
ok if they're 18 in 2010 that means they were in preschool in the 97 i'm supposed to believe that a school in 1997 would let a man stay in the basement because I'm old enough to remember that time and there was a big public paranoia about paves
Honestly, this one wasn’t well received because it focused way too much on p*do Freddy as opposed to him already being a murderer. People talk about bad fandoms and people acting angry over nothing, but in 2010 the director and the producer both left twitter after fans got very angry over this film being pretty bad. Maybe just fans know what they want, and this wasn’t it.
"We're trying to do away with one liners in this new reboot" First kill and the kick off to the title card is a one liner. Being fair to the film it seemed to be pretty much exactly the sort of style that Mauler and Rags said you could pull off in a serious horror film.
i had the same idea as rags, except i think all the music in the awake world should also be diagetic. like a stereo, or s tv, or even the band class down the hall. that way the transition to the dream world with zero backround music is very subtle
Hello there, just wanted to let you know, taking that much adrenaline would likely be fatal. He'd start shaking uncontrollably, likely go into a coma and have a heart attack.
the nightmare on elm street films firmly reinforce the lesson taught to me in screenwriting class: avoid dreams and flashback sequences at all costs. the only movie i can think of that did a dream sequence properly is probably jacob's ladder, imho. otherwise, dreams and the like are generally a terrible place to start from with a script.
Proposal for Mauler and crew.... watch the Universal Monster movies one year (Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman, Phantom of the Opera, Bride of Frankenstein, Creature from the Black Lagoon, and so many more). Follow it up the next year with the Hammer Horror films.
Those movies might not be that great for this format tbh. If they cover those would be a better fit if they did any of them like how they did Jurassic park or The Thing recently.
freddy looks like a fallout 4 reject ghoul amd the plot is even more boring than the last remake. i cant believe that freddy vs jason was a real movie with a plot and good pacing. How!!!
freddy was never scary, he was always a massive goof, especially when he tried to be scary. the entertainment factor was watching englund have fun. they tried to make a dark serious movie about a serial killer who joked about and had silly inventive kills.
I really hate how there are genuinely a few good ideas in this film. Like the "micro sleep" term is a pretty dumb way to describe how exhausted people get when they get no sleep, but that one scene in the store where Nancy shifts between the real and dream worlds is like the best showcase of this concept. Would have enjoyed the remake if it actually took the idea of trying to escape a dream killer to it's most realistic, terrifying conclusion instead of constantly trying to recreate scenes from the original with effects that look significantly worse than the ones that came out almost 30 years prior and 200% more jumpscares.
Yeah, they could have totally expanded this idea into being more of a psychological thriller/horror film rather than a standard slasher. The idea is also twice as clever when when you realize what was Wes craven’s original idea/concept for the film, a group of people trying desperately to stay awake at all costs, before it & the series divulged into a more typical slasher series
@@kingbash6466 just realized something, if they were gonna do the micro sleep concept then why the hell did they do the whole “ oh no I blinked for half a second so I instantly fell asleep” bs. Like seriously that was/is one of the dumbest explanations for how someone enters the dream realm, it’s fine if it’s a boring class or something but when they do it at every turn despite them being perfectly well rested. The micro sleep idea was a much better way of presenting this, like the brain straight shuts down/forces them into sleep or do a more extreme version of the isle scene where they get stuck in and out of the dream realm without either side control
Dreamscape (1984) handled the concept better than almost all of the Elm Street movies with the possible exception of 3. Not sure if it holds up but I remember really liking it when I first saw it.
Aye up lads! I've done a bit of research and here's some things what I found interesting: • Jackie Earle Haley was contracted for 3 movies. The other 2 never happened. He also called the original "the worst movie he has ever seen" • The CGI on Freddy's face were done by the same team what did The Dark Knight • Jackie Earle Haley might have auditioned for the role of Freddy in the original film but I couldn't find a reliable source on this • The movie was supposed to be good, but was a disappointment
To be fair to the writers, how could they have known that a creepy, child-molester version of Freddy who speaks in innuendos wouldn’t resonate with audiences?
"Why didn't they do more with that [premise]?" You mean like they did in the movies after 3? They didn't abandon Lucid Dreaming or fighting back in your dreams they just didn't do as well as in 3.
You can still do more with something you've already done. Doing more means doing MORE, what you have done and then some. They never claimed later movies just didn't do those concepts.
This movie is absolute dogshit, i hate it. It is a whole lot of nothing. Characters are forgettable, zero storyline. Freddy looks like absolute shit. 1/10. I would watch Freddy vs Jason over this any day of the week.
This Freddy is literally just Rorshach. It is impossible not to just hear it as such and it ruins it for me, the original Freddy was such a goober and this guy is a try-hard (no offense to the actor, I really enjoyed him in the original Watchmen movie).
Yeah, I could see JEH doing a great job as some kind of psycho killer villain in a better-executed original flick, but there’s a vibe to Freddy Krueger that this film didn’t deliver at all.
This is the only movie of this month's EFAP journey that I haven't seen. And I still have no desire to. I think I'm pretty much in agreement with the list at the end. "Freddy v Jason" and "Dream Warriors" are both pretty top-notch as far as the 'Elm Street" series is concerned. "FvJ" takes the top slot for me in both entertainment and quality, simply because you can tell it was made with a great deal of love and respect for both franchises. They took a dumb premise and made it as well as you could possibly hope for. It's a far better movie than it has any right to be.
46:58 Rags, this is 2010 iPods do exost but about 3 years ago at that point a new little device came out, very similar to the iPod except way better cause it was the iPhone. By 2010, people were jailbreaking their phones. They were very handy ans very stimulating.
I don't think that this one stands a fighting chance against Freddy vs. Jason or any other Nightmare on Elm Street for that matter. I'd say that it doesn't even have legs to stand on, not even one.
As someone who has done a LOT of speed, im talking herculean amounts, let me educate you all a little bit. They got the "microdreaming" thing surprisingly right, it does get like that the longer you stay awake. My record for staying awake with NO SLEEP was around 8, 8 1/2 days straight. After around day 5, the microdreaming stops, even the auditory hallucinations go away. When I finally DID go to sleep, I slept for about 3 days, and when I woke up, I felt better than I ever have in my entire life. And I know, im going to get the people that claim youll die after 4 or 5 days no sleep, well, that didnt happen to me. I had other times where I stayed up 5, 6 days straight too, MANY times in fact. Maybe im built different than other people, but I just know it didnt feel like I was dying or anything, and my wife is my living witness to doing these things.
I had a bad case of COVID this year that kept me from sleeping for over 3 days because I couldn’t swallow without pain, and had constant drainage. I had to enter a meditative state that was like dreaming just to cope.
I must say that i love these lines. "What game you want to play next?" "F*ck you!" "Ooh sounds like fun" Reminds me of the joker. "Very poor choice of words"
Before immediately back tracking and being like "He was a horrible PDF all along" which makes me wonder why they even bothered they should have committed to Freddy being innocent or left it out entirely instead of whatever the hell it was that they did.
@@Schlorb-Lord-of-Schlirb especially since I never got PDF vibes from Freddy. He was a serial killer who targeted kids, that’s it. No “ohh he did worse things, unspeakable things to the kids.” He stabbed with his homemade blades.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN EFAP!!! This franchise has pros and flaws! Each movie had interesting ideas to it! Sometimes they delivered and others were underutilized! This is true! But this franchise still gave me my love for Robert Englund, Heather Langenkamp, Lisa Wilcox, and Wes Craven! A monster targeting you in your dreams and exploiting your darkest fears always provided me with endless story material! Thank you so much reviewing all 9 movies!! You made October another fun month for me! 🎃🎃🎃
The only horror franchises I know that haven't driven themselves off a cliff after entry 3 or 4 is Scream and Child's Play (which did have Seed of Chucky but hopped back up in the next two movies). Going on longer than 3 or 4 is usually a recipe for disaster.
Man what a steep drop in quality from Freddy vs. Jason. Possibly the most fun slasher movie ever made *and* hands down the best X vs. Y crossover movie. And yes, I include Civil War in that equation. Deal with it.
@@fastlandcliffhanger6962 Freeburg > Zeemo (In case you didn't catch it -- because it's not important -- that's the name of Jay's stoner lookalike/stand-in who gets possessed by Freddy. I maintain to this day that his "Lemme handle this *itch" should be a meme.)
Well they hit the nail on the head in the F V J video. The studio heads: “okay we just need Freddy to fight Jason.” The writer:”okay but I’m actually gonna write like a plot to.” Studio heads:”Why?”
@ there was one dream the main hero had where he woke up in his house and seamlessly walked outside back onto the island with Godzilla eating all the maintenance crew
1:35:27 Whoever decided to write "Freddy's Dead" as the 6th movie in the top list and "The Final Nightmare" as the 6th movie in the bottom list needs to be forced to stream Lord of Ring: Gollum (again).
I get the horrible feeling that all of the stuff with discovering the 'cave' is because of the J-horror wave at the time, since this is structured really similarly to the investigation in the Ring films (and the guy speaking direct to his webcam is just straight out of the _other_ J-horror film, Pulse), which seems completely bizarre to try and shove into a Nightmare on Elm Street reboot.
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thank you mauler crew for being maulery. i would support if i had money. sadly i am broke until... well hours from now maybe. friday is coming.
not the frungus 😢
You forgot the end credits of Freddy vs Jason!!
That's the long guy from TH-cam!!!!! 🤯☝️
Glad you guys liked this arc! There are many more to follow next year...
Hail to the metal edits. Also, you seemed to have a lot of fun on this one 😂
We getting Jason X!
The puppet master movies would be a really good arc to see
Scream is going to be fun marathon
There's 16 Friday The 13th movies, now that's an arc. Do it you cowards! 😂
There's a significant lack of Freddy saying "bitch"
Yeah she says it to him at the end but it's not a payoff unless he says it first.
To be fair that is Robert’s line
This freddy is no fun if he said bitch it would feel like theft
Welcome to the remake bitch!
In the 2010s dudes wearing fedoras actually say "m'lady".
The little comedy edits by Wolf really make these, and this one especially. Even the crew needed a lift with how depressing this movie is, thanks Wolf for giving us excellent moments of levity.
FvJ is definitely the most entertaining, but Dream Warriors is the better film/story. Definitely the only ones that are worth watching.
So glad Wolf is back in all our lives.
The boy being puppeteered in 3 is genuinely uncomfortable to watch.
I say 1, 3 and then F vs J
@@mrminecraftcubeable literally reverse order for me lol. Still, pretty inarguably the best ones
@@HerohammerStudios oh i meant to watch the first one, the third one and then freddy vs jason
I wasn't ranking them, i agree with you
"If you poop in your dreams, you poop in real life."
- Gandhi
@@rollrcoastrbacon2725What do you think a wet dream is, virgin?
I thought it was a Bilbo Baggins quote
@@zak7an2 it was actually Batman, while talking to his Dick Greyson.
Also, you get Mr. Shart instead of Krueger. Personally, i'd rather take my chances against the clawed, Mordor-esque child killer from Hell.
Nightmare on Elm Street reboot where Freddy trolls a bunch of kids by making them shit the bed.
Robert Englund himself described this movie as “A Nightmare on Elm Street: Freddy meets Viagra”.
For the record, he also said that he liked the remake. He just didn't like that we didn't have a chance to "meet the kids" before Freddy "began his cat & mouse" with them. I agree on both accounts.
I have no idea what to take from that. That he's an old man who struggles with flaccidity?
@@SandshrewGarfield that Freddy has a boner the entire movie, is what I'd take from a sentence like that
@@SandshrewGarfieldright? Wtf does that even mean?
Because its cumming soon?
The fact that we haven't had a sequel to this series since says everything.
Remakes are the attempt to reanimate a franchise, and if they fail, it stays dead.
And that's a good thing.
Despite Freddy vs Jason being Robert Englund’s last theatrical appearance as Krueger he cameo’s in the Goldbergs as Freddy in a dream sequence
Wait, what?
@@jonbaxter2254Season 6, episode 5. Season 6 was the last decent season, before ABC forced Adam Goldberg out of his own show.
Whoa, they forced adam off of his own show? I didnt know that. Would explain the drop in quality. @@DonnaCPunk
@DonnaCPunk That sucks. Idc much, but I do remember watching that show when it first came out and being pleasantly surprised by it. I ended up putting it just below My Name is Earl. Those daytime sitcoms and cop shows usually suck so it's always nice to see them make good TV, especially since here in America those channels (Nbc, Abc, Cbs) are the exclusive media diet of alot of older folks who deserve better TV.
LMAO theres a show called (((the Goldbergs))) ?
that's crazy gotta be a psyop for sure
Freddy being a confirmed diddler is probably the most contentious part of the reboot. Something weird is one of the original ideas for Freddy VS Jason was Freddy worked at camp Crystal Lake and diddled Jason. Thankfully they didn't go with that idea
I always assumed Freddie being a diddler was implied. There’s basically one serial killer ever who targeted a large number of children, as most of them target adults, and even Wayne Williams killed many adults and was never convicted of murdering a child.
But it’s easier to picture a pdf who does naughty things and then kills to hide the evidence.
The newspaper in Dream Child did call him child m0le$ter, tho.
My only issue with this plot is just the execution, the fact he diddled but didn't kill them leaves confusing logistics, the "I dont want my kid to go talk about what he did!" is way weaker than him getting away with it through a Judge mistake and again THEY WASTE TIME with the "Is he innocent or not?" nonsense.
And I hate people saying "He shouldve been innocent so he has motivation!" BUT WHY ISNT HE GOING AFTER THE PARENTS THAT WRONGFULLY KILLED HIM???
@@DeepEye1994
That would be the point. The parent’s efforts to protect their children sealed their children’s fate.
Freddy would’ve been innocent but mob mentality would’ve corrupted him to the monster that we know him to be.
Also killing the innocent children of the bad parents would be a fate worse than death. Which might be how Freddy feels being a dream demon.
There’s some interesting ideas there
I'm surprised this franchise never had a character who experiences sleep paralysis. People already see shadow people sometimes when they go through sleep paralysis. Imagine Freddy dealing with pre-existing supernatural dream demons giving people nightmares.
I have that and just not being able to wake up is bad enough but when your having a nightmare it's terrifying. No demons for me though lol
@@stephengazzola1025 none that you have noticed... yet
Didn't Freddy possess sleeping people?
@@СайтаменStoner in FvJ to drug Jason.
I get the old hag who sits on my chest. Apparently not uncommon.
I love "Micro dreams" are just this movie's "fear-flashes"
Jackie Earl Haley is a good actor, but it felt like he was just doing Rorschach as Freddy.
I think that's what they wanted from him
The face just doesn’t allow for him to emote coupled with that he doesn’t make faces while Englund would react like when he’s pulled out of the dream in Freddy vs Jason and his eyes widened
Kinda killed it for me, the makeup is far worse somehow and the original Freddy had so much personality. This guy is just dark deep voice saying murdery things.
@@Gaizure Yeah the makeup and the remake of freddy look like a weird alien or his face looks like cheese pizza. He looks less like a burn victim and more a creature
Great actor, but yeah a little uninspired as Freddy
Damn that was some good editing. I was hoping for a Nickelback reference but having it edited to be "Look at this graph!" with him holding a graph caught me so off guard that I burst out laughing. XD
Aw, that’s a classic meme, surprised you haven’t seen it before
This movie has created a whole new appreciation for the original film. The TRUE purpose of a remake.
“He took us to the secret cave.” Oh so he’s Tom Riddle then.
Freddie’s totally a Hufflepuff.
Freddie goes down the wrong cave and Tom just turns him into an Inferi. How unfortunate.
Wolf is so good as the editor. His skills are reaching their peak.
Her* skills now, just FYI. She transitioned.
@@christopherkelley1664Bullshit
I still really want a Jason X reaction. Elm Street is really fun but Jason X is just so ridiculous I had a smile on my face the whole time. It has the same energy as Freddy vs Jason and so does Jason Goes to Manhattan
A Friday the 13th arc next year would be awesome
Jason X made me chuckle many times.
I'd rather a Halloween arc..... But I one billion percent want a Jason X efap
@JourneyTal1 - if you want a funny watchalong/review of the whole Friday the 13th series - I don't know if you've ever heard of the guy but there's this TH-camr called "Distracted Nerd" and he's done heaps of comedy reviews of horror movies among others and he doesn't get the recognition he deserves so I recommend you check him out if you want to see hilarious Friday 13th reviews 😂
I don't know if I've already recommended this channel to you; but there's a channel that's done A Nightmare On Elm St and all the Friday the 13th movie and they're hilarious - check out Distracted Nerd - his videos/reaction are great... really doesn't get the recognition he deserves.
34:21 yeah this whole tangent is why I’m still salty over them killing Mark (comic book kid) because he did literally everything right, overcame his fear of Freddy because of his love for another, gained dream warrior powers and actively fought Freddy head on, and yet they still bent over backwards to make Freddy win. Because we can’t have ways to deal with him otherwise this demonic serial killer who exists in your sleep an unavoidable state and can alter the dreamscape to fit his liking might actually be beatable. I also feel it’s partly due to conforming to slasher troupes/standards, because for mark or that wizard kid from 3, who also stood up & faced his fears, you’d think for a horror series about dreams it would be the most imaginative/creative kids would be the ones to make it in the end (but no it’s the standard female final girl virgin regardless of if the other characters reflect the ideas of the series much better). Say what you want about the ridiculous ways Micheal or Jason survive/get resurrected but they stay consistent in how to beat them, hit them with something big enough/large a knife
Lastly I really liked what you said about Freddy ultimate being a coward/someone acting bigger than they are, because yeah Freddy is sorta that. He was a serial killer who targeted children rather than adults, then when he became undead instead of targeting his killers he still went after kids, and it is though dreams where he could decide the rules/tip things in his favor as well as forcibly disadvantages them (you inevitably have to sleep else you might die of sleep deprivation). Even his weapon reflects that, the claw glove only works for an opponent who can’t fight back.
Yeah especially for me slashers or at least ones you’re aiming to do a series on should be beatable. Like some horror movies where you can’t win are good but the more movies you do it’s like “okay I get it they can’t win cool”. It’s the reason I think they messed up making Smile 2. But yeah Freddy should’ve had a run, been killed off and rebooted in another decade or so.
That would make these movies more interesting:
People who CAN handle fighting Freddy in dreams, but they can't sleep all the time and Freddy can manipulate dreams to keep the strongest people away for a time, so other characters have to step up or die.
I'd pay for a movie where Freddy takes a dreamer to a prison, because that character is scared of jail, but it backfires because Freddy hurt kids and prisoners go after pdf.files first.
>efap nightmare on elm street arc begins
>Robert Englund retires as Freddy Krueger
Coincidence?
I THINK NOT!
I said Agatha was so cringe he retired. He said his bod is too old to do fight scenes but would voice him in an animated series
@@HectorLopez0217Bruce Campbell said that about playing ash too
You mean the arc ends
I remember seeing this abomination in theaters. I remember the horrible CGI and constant jump scares. Freddy also looks like shit in this movie honestly. And not having Robert Englund as Freddy is a crime.
Englund IS Freddy. I can't see anyone else doing Freddy well.
So weird THIS is the Freddy that appeared in Mortal Kombat 9.
@@Land_Far_Away and Dead by Daylight
Englund was too old to play him.
I remember absolutely losing it when I saw that Nickelback meme. I don't think I've ever laughed that hard in my life.
The guy dying on webcam and them uploading his own desth video reminds me of the guy with the animated presentation of his drug taking and death in 21 Jump Street
The whole time the crew is talking about uncanny dream-like aesthetics, all I can think of is Jacob's Ladder. I think they'd all thoroughly enjoy it.
Excellent movie.
After the Flanagan praising at the end, yall HAVE to do am episode on Dr. Sleep. Honestly, it's just as good as the shining.
Like I said on an earlier video. Freddy is the only character that can really get away with "playing with his food" cause what can someone realistically do against him? By making him a super serious, no fun allowed killer it contradicts this. If he's not playing around cause it's fun why doesn't he just use his super dream powers to obliterate the elm street children? Because then the movie couldn't happen. They took THE thing that made Freddy a really unique killer and removed it.
It’s so sad to see this beloved arc come to an end
It is so sad.... to me
@@stephengazzola1025
eNdInGs. ArE. DISTASTEFUL!
...to me
@@HerohammerStudios much better!
ok if they're 18 in 2010 that means they were in preschool in the 97 i'm supposed to believe that a school in 1997 would let a man stay in the basement because I'm old enough to remember that time and there was a big public paranoia about paves
Maybe if Freddy was part of the church.
@@Jasper_Silva 🤣🤣🤣
Honestly, this one wasn’t well received because it focused way too much on p*do Freddy as opposed to him already being a murderer. People talk about bad fandoms and people acting angry over nothing, but in 2010 the director and the producer both left twitter after fans got very angry over this film being pretty bad. Maybe just fans know what they want, and this wasn’t it.
"We're trying to do away with one liners in this new reboot" First kill and the kick off to the title card is a one liner.
Being fair to the film it seemed to be pretty much exactly the sort of style that Mauler and Rags said you could pull off in a serious horror film.
Katie Cassidy, the most gorgeous blonde (for a chunk of time) , is the only thing i remember from this movie.
I saw her a lot in 7 seasons of arrow.
i had the same idea as rags, except i think all the music in the awake world should also be diagetic. like a stereo, or s tv, or even the band class down the hall. that way the transition to the dream world with zero backround music is very subtle
Hello there, just wanted to let you know, taking that much adrenaline would likely be fatal. He'd start shaking uncontrollably, likely go into a coma and have a heart attack.
Hooray!
Robert England should have been in the Harry Potter films as a death eater. he would have been amazing loool.
OMG YES
That mid movie ‘what’d ya bring me’ was better edited than the majority of modern Hollywood movies
the nightmare on elm street films firmly reinforce the lesson taught to me in screenwriting class: avoid dreams and flashback sequences at all costs. the only movie i can think of that did a dream sequence properly is probably jacob's ladder, imho. otherwise, dreams and the like are generally a terrible place to start from with a script.
44:14 - OMG Killing is distasteful … to Freddy!!
They really thought the Smells Like Teen Spirit music video director would be a great choice to direct a Nightmare On Elm Street reboot.
"Someone mute Rags" is something we all think constantly.
Every efap video.
Proposal for Mauler and crew.... watch the Universal Monster movies one year (Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman, Phantom of the Opera, Bride of Frankenstein, Creature from the Black Lagoon, and so many more).
Follow it up the next year with the Hammer Horror films.
Those movies might not be that great for this format tbh. If they cover those would be a better fit if they did any of them like how they did Jurassic park or The Thing recently.
Which ones? From 30s, 60s, 90s or 10s?
That would be Katie Cassidy, David Cassidy's daughter. She was indeed in Supernatural, and she also played Black Canary in CW's Arrow.
Can’t wait for the Friday and Halloween arcs! The Halloween timeline rabbit hole is quite daunting for outsiders.
freddy looks like a fallout 4 reject ghoul amd the plot is even more boring than the last remake. i cant believe that freddy vs jason was a real movie with a plot and good pacing. How!!!
freddy was never scary, he was always a massive goof, especially when he tried to be scary. the entertainment factor was watching englund have fun. they tried to make a dark serious movie about a serial killer who joked about and had silly inventive kills.
Just when the crew thought the original was bad 😂 This one makes it look like a masterpiece
The first one is the best one. How about it makes 5 look like a masterpiece?
@@porkflaps4717 The first one is not the best one.
I really hate how there are genuinely a few good ideas in this film. Like the "micro sleep" term is a pretty dumb way to describe how exhausted people get when they get no sleep, but that one scene in the store where Nancy shifts between the real and dream worlds is like the best showcase of this concept. Would have enjoyed the remake if it actually took the idea of trying to escape a dream killer to it's most realistic, terrifying conclusion instead of constantly trying to recreate scenes from the original with effects that look significantly worse than the ones that came out almost 30 years prior and 200% more jumpscares.
Yeah, they could have totally expanded this idea into being more of a psychological thriller/horror film rather than a standard slasher. The idea is also twice as clever when when you realize what was Wes craven’s original idea/concept for the film, a group of people trying desperately to stay awake at all costs, before it & the series divulged into a more typical slasher series
@@christopherauzenne5023 Seems like they tried it with Freddy being more grim and moody...
@@kingbash6466 just realized something, if they were gonna do the micro sleep concept then why the hell did they do the whole “ oh no I blinked for half a second so I instantly fell asleep” bs. Like seriously that was/is one of the dumbest explanations for how someone enters the dream realm, it’s fine if it’s a boring class or something but when they do it at every turn despite them being perfectly well rested. The micro sleep idea was a much better way of presenting this, like the brain straight shuts down/forces them into sleep or do a more extreme version of the isle scene where they get stuck in and out of the dream realm without either side control
Great stuff as always lads .Will we ever get to see the Austin Powers EFAP ? 🙏🏻
Halloween is my favorite time of year for the efaps.
I loved Spin City but no one I know remembers it existed either. Even people I watched it with … Lol
Like the Drew Carey Show.
nothing can replace jason vs freddy. it was way too much fun
Agreed! That one is by far my favorite.
Think this is why terrifier took off the way it did. Art the clown has so much fucking charisma 😂
Imma rewatch that efap
I’ve seen it twice. Hated it both times just like I hate every film in the franchise after the third.
Dreamscape (1984) handled the concept better than almost all of the Elm Street movies with the possible exception of 3. Not sure if it holds up but I remember really liking it when I first saw it.
Aye up lads! I've done a bit of research and here's some things what I found interesting:
• Jackie Earle Haley was contracted for 3 movies. The other 2 never happened. He also called the original "the worst movie he has ever seen"
• The CGI on Freddy's face were done by the same team what did The Dark Knight
• Jackie Earle Haley might have auditioned for the role of Freddy in the original film but I couldn't find a reliable source on this
• The movie was supposed to be good, but was a disappointment
DARK MEAT!
Easily the winner of the whole series.
All I remember of this movie is that I fell asleep about 20 minutes in.
1:10:17 Wolf doing what he does best
Freddy vs Jason is so much better than Batman v Superman it’s comical 😂
To be fair to the writers, how could they have known that a creepy, child-molester version of Freddy who speaks in innuendos wouldn’t resonate with audiences?
"Why didn't they do more with that [premise]?" You mean like they did in the movies after 3? They didn't abandon Lucid Dreaming or fighting back in your dreams they just didn't do as well as in 3.
You can still do more with something you've already done. Doing more means doing MORE, what you have done and then some. They never claimed later movies just didn't do those concepts.
This arc has been so much fun! Dream Warriors is the favourite for me.
This movie is absolute dogshit, i hate it. It is a whole lot of nothing. Characters are forgettable, zero storyline. Freddy looks like absolute shit.
1/10. I would watch Freddy vs Jason over this any day of the week.
1:10:03
Rags's is self evidence of Wolfs much missed presence. XD
44:32 I mean, Groundskeeper Willie killed the kids of the parents who let him burn at the PTA meeting....
Would love you guys to watch Behind the Mask - the Rise of Leslie Durnan.
England is in it. It's like a meta love letter to these old franchises.
Vernon*
@ Thank you! It’s been a hot minute since I watched it.
@@Elizabelle79 It's a great movie and I hope they look it up!
I’d love to see the crew watch Dreamscape. It’s an 80s dream movie with lots of practical effects and some interesting ideas.
Spin City is amazing. Michael J Fox the chief of staff for the mayor of NYC played by Barry Bostwick
Went downhill after Charlie Sheen replaced him.
@ 100%, it wasn’t as good
As a kid not from merica these reboots were my first interactions with the classic franchises.
AVP, Elm Street 2010, Halloween 2018, etc
I'm so sorry
Even Robocop
@@HectorLopez0217yup with Joel and gary
At least they introduced you to the iconic villains.
@@hkaayaakuu that one was decent.
This Freddy is literally just Rorshach. It is impossible not to just hear it as such and it ruins it for me, the original Freddy was such a goober and this guy is a try-hard (no offense to the actor, I really enjoyed him in the original Watchmen movie).
Yeah, I could see JEH doing a great job as some kind of psycho killer villain in a better-executed original flick, but there’s a vibe to Freddy Krueger that this film didn’t deliver at all.
Nah, Rorschach doesn't say cringy shit like Freddy does in this and the voice is different too.
This is the only movie of this month's EFAP journey that I haven't seen. And I still have no desire to. I think I'm pretty much in agreement with the list at the end. "Freddy v Jason" and "Dream Warriors" are both pretty top-notch as far as the 'Elm Street" series is concerned. "FvJ" takes the top slot for me in both entertainment and quality, simply because you can tell it was made with a great deal of love and respect for both franchises. They took a dumb premise and made it as well as you could possibly hope for. It's a far better movie than it has any right to be.
46:58 Rags, this is 2010 iPods do exost but about 3 years ago at that point a new little device came out, very similar to the iPod except way better cause it was the iPhone. By 2010, people were jailbreaking their phones. They were very handy ans very stimulating.
Happy Halloween!
I can't believe we went through an entire arc without Orlando Bloom. Heresy.
I don't think that this one stands a fighting chance against Freddy vs. Jason or any other Nightmare on Elm Street for that matter. I'd say that it doesn't even have legs to stand on, not even one.
Can it stand on its tipples?
It was foreshadowing the terrible future of media.
@@effysousa9873 now that's scary!
Hell no. Freddy Vs Jason is S tier.
@@lesserknown5138 On the glove claws.
12:53 Man I love Wolf's interjection/comedy beats. Never change you massive
As someone who has done a LOT of speed, im talking herculean amounts, let me educate you all a little bit. They got the "microdreaming" thing surprisingly right, it does get like that the longer you stay awake. My record for staying awake with NO SLEEP was around 8, 8 1/2 days straight. After around day 5, the microdreaming stops, even the auditory hallucinations go away. When I finally DID go to sleep, I slept for about 3 days, and when I woke up, I felt better than I ever have in my entire life. And I know, im going to get the people that claim youll die after 4 or 5 days no sleep, well, that didnt happen to me. I had other times where I stayed up 5, 6 days straight too, MANY times in fact. Maybe im built different than other people, but I just know it didnt feel like I was dying or anything, and my wife is my living witness to doing these things.
Damn that's impressive, best i can do is go for days just sleeping 2-3 hours
@@mrminecraftcubeable the key is the speed.
Drugs really help...but without them? Come on
Is your job a night guard or something?
I had a bad case of COVID this year that kept me from sleeping for over 3 days because I couldn’t swallow without pain, and had constant drainage. I had to enter a meditative state that was like dreaming just to cope.
One liners can be epic! “I have such sights to show you!”
Do not cry, it is a waste of good suffering
Perhaps the real Freddy was the EFAPs we watched along the way...
I must say that i love these lines.
"What game you want to play next?"
"F*ck you!"
"Ooh sounds like fun"
Reminds me of the joker. "Very poor choice of words"
Omg they started the humanizing terrible people almost 6 years before...this foreshadowed the hell out of 2020
Before immediately back tracking and being like "He was a horrible PDF all along" which makes me wonder why they even bothered they should have committed to Freddy being innocent or left it out entirely instead of whatever the hell it was that they did.
@@Schlorb-Lord-of-Schlirb especially since I never got PDF vibes from Freddy. He was a serial killer who targeted kids, that’s it. No “ohh he did worse things, unspeakable things to the kids.” He stabbed with his homemade blades.
@@cameronhermann9400 He gave off rapey vibes 100% but I don't know why they went with PD🗂️
How did they humanize him exactly? By showing how he was killed?
@@Сайтамен when the kids fist said the parents killed an innocent man. only to find out hes a pdf...
What a sour ending to the arc. Should've watched Freddy vs Jason last.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN EFAP!!!
This franchise has pros and flaws! Each movie had interesting ideas to it! Sometimes they delivered and others were underutilized! This is true!
But this franchise still gave me my love for Robert Englund, Heather Langenkamp, Lisa Wilcox, and Wes Craven! A monster targeting you in your dreams and exploiting your darkest fears always provided me with endless story material!
Thank you so much reviewing all 9 movies!! You made October another fun month for me! 🎃🎃🎃
Well, that was beyond anticlimactic.
The Doctor was gonna sedate the girl until the girl sperged out and knocked the syringe out of her hand.
THEN she says she needs consent?
I know now why i thought this franchise was so good.
I'd only ever watched 3 for most of my life.
The only horror franchises I know that haven't driven themselves off a cliff after entry 3 or 4 is Scream and Child's Play (which did have Seed of Chucky but hopped back up in the next two movies). Going on longer than 3 or 4 is usually a recipe for disaster.
Freddy sounds like Duke Nukem in this movie.
Man what a steep drop in quality from Freddy vs. Jason.
Possibly the most fun slasher movie ever made *and* hands down the best X vs. Y crossover movie.
And yes, I include Civil War in that equation. Deal with it.
Civil War is lowkey overrated. And Zeemo is overrated as fuck.
@@fastlandcliffhanger6962
Freeburg > Zeemo
(In case you didn't catch it -- because it's not important -- that's the name of Jay's stoner lookalike/stand-in who gets possessed by Freddy. I maintain to this day that his "Lemme handle this *itch" should be a meme.)
What’s with the civil war hate ?
@@Galvatronover Hate is a strong word.
Well they hit the nail on the head in the F V J video.
The studio heads: “okay we just need Freddy to fight Jason.”
The writer:”okay but I’m actually gonna write like a plot to.”
Studio heads:”Why?”
Im waiting for Efap Armageddon now that Mauler mentioned the "Bayark"
The only movie that makes my dad cry, for some freaking reason
Fred Kruger 2010 edition.
He hates his dad and listens to Linkin Park.
You guys should cover the Scary Movie franchise next year. Some of those films are really funny. That and the Naked Gun movies
Also why did they turn Freddy into a weird hairless catboy? I hate the prosthetics in this one.
I think nightmare on elm street premise would be a lot better if it wasn't a slasher movie. Instead was a more eldritch dream monster.
The Chad Freddy vs the virgin Fred. What a complete shitshow
I actually think Godzilla Minus One did a better dream sequence than most of this franchise.
Wait, which one?
@ there was one dream the main hero had where he woke up in his house and seamlessly walked outside back onto the island with Godzilla eating all the maintenance crew
The scariest thing in this EFAP Movies was Capital-O.
Freddy vs Jason: An Absolute Hidden Gem when, Mauler?
1:35:27 Whoever decided to write "Freddy's Dead" as the 6th movie in the top list and "The Final Nightmare" as the 6th movie in the bottom list needs to be forced to stream Lord of Ring: Gollum (again).
Friday the 13th arc next year!
You can't spell "REBOOT" without: "BOO!!"
Nice Wolf cameo! 🐾 🐺
Gotta say going from goofy dream sadist to .PDF file coming back from the dead for round 2 is not the move I would have gone for....
So bad I just assumed Zack Snyder directed it.
Not enough slow motion for that
@@00KiryuZero00 And everything is in focus...
It's Michael Bay, close enough.
It’s more of a JJ Abrams type of badness.
Loved this arc… A Nightmare on EFAP😂🎉🎉
I get the horrible feeling that all of the stuff with discovering the 'cave' is because of the J-horror wave at the time, since this is structured really similarly to the investigation in the Ring films (and the guy speaking direct to his webcam is just straight out of the _other_ J-horror film, Pulse), which seems completely bizarre to try and shove into a Nightmare on Elm Street reboot.