I have to come here to clarify this because it seems like everyone knows who the group is when everyone are clearly naming groups just because they hate them or because they want attention.... Minhyuk said that it is a group that no longer promotes or is an old group. Minhyuk would never say the name of the group, BtoB are respectful idols, the only ones who will know the truth will be the people who have been there at that moment or who Minhyuk wants to tell them. There are groups that name that HAVE NOT BEEN PROMOTING on that date in which they were doing it. So stop being such a hater that it shows a lot. All those toxic people and who think they know who the group is bothers me a lot so when I have time I will delete unnecessary comments and with reasons for fighting. If you don't like people talking bad about your group, don't do it, If you do it and then complain when others do the same as you, that is totally hypocritical.
@@unotso nope, they're correct! he said that is a group that is no longer promoting (i guess he means they either disbanded or have been inactive), but were an active group back in that time
@@cloverz3 Exactly. I was confused when the comment above is stating the groups weren't promoting the time it happened, which is misleading, because what I understood is that the group arent't promoting/ disbanded just like what you said.
Comments pointing at EXO were actually so absurd. EXO and BtoB were friends and despite the 1 month difference of their debut, exo addressed btob as sunbaes. And, exo are pretty well known to being noisy on their waiting rooms as well because of their vocal warm-ups. Chen had to apologize publicly at monsta x bcs baekhyun and him were so loud that they almost ruined monsta x's vlive lmao
That story remind me of BAP yelling BTOB at the next room to be quiet because BAP were doing a interview, LIVE! LOL. from that scene, two groups were overlapping their chaoticness for a second, weren't they? 😅 Btw they're also friends.
@@yesplatinum7956who r u replying to? Most kpop artists use backing tracks. So it’s not lip syncing no, it’s like assisted live singing Edit: whoops I completely missed the part in the video that said the group in question always lip sync. Now I know why u said that.
@@Denturess I didn’t tag anyone so I’m replying to the original comment, they mentioned that a lot of people thought it was exo but it doesn’t make sense to me because why would they lipsync? I was just wondering if they lip sync or not, I’m not saying that anyone here accused exo of lip syncing or whatever in case that is what you thought I was saying
Btob and svt, if they will ever have same scheds, should be assigned a room next to each other hahahhahhaa imagine the heavenly noise they'll produce while warming up. They both are known to be taking warm ups seriously hahhaha.
@@brennathecatlover4360 what I meant is that he too does vocal warmups. I have recently watched an OT5 TVXQ concert - there is no way that those guys can handle an entire concert with incredible live singing if not for top discipline.
@@Julianna_w OT5 DBSK were kpop God's. Their live vocals were like, out if this world. DB5K and BTOB are my fav groups for that very reason. JYJ and 2vxq still retained their vocals after the split too.
@@abcd-jk4zb mad skills aside, OT5 TVXQ were loud as heck too back in the day LMAO changmin is the quieter member but he prolly relates to hearing his member(s) get noisy while messing around :) I miss all the screaming and laughter from them
If the big hyung Changmin says it's ok, then it's good enough for everyone else 😄 I've watched an OT5 TVXQ concert recently and each member can truly truly sing
@@wenthong2537 wow hi there! An old cassie! I used to be a cassie too! 🤩 They hardly even used backing vocals when dancing. You could clearly hear their voices. No group can compare vocally. Their harmonization was perfecttttt. KPOP now is more dance and visual oriented. Groups NEVER sing live in their comeback shows anymore. They use a pre recorded version to make it sound live. It’s all about looking perfect.
@@erinalance5183 I have seen their very few captured interactions. It's just when you see them seperate - you can only imagine the absolute chaos together 🤣
@@Noviosity yaaa indeed, if am not wrong they also said that next to them was shinee and jonghyun once said he got startled by these two's noise but eventually had a friendly match of vocals. That's when other groups said you shouldn't take green room next to these people it gonna interrupt your peaceful time before stage performance(most of the groups said it as a joke)😂😂😍😍
Like sunbae, like hoobae 🤣 exactly like what Joochan and Sungyoon is talking about in this vid. When they're having a vocal warm up competition with the other rookie groups
I will say something very obvious, but this is for those who are not fans or are new to the fandom (? Minhyuk never said the name of the group and he won't say it, it's respect and something that happened a long time ago. BtoB and Melody are respectful people, that even though Minhyuk has said what he said (he has his reasons) I'm sure the industry or the people that work in this, will know it.
everybody in the comments here saying their fav never lipsyncs 😭😭 besties i promise u every kpop group has lipsynced at least a few times regardless of how well they sing live.
He said they "always" lip sync and then he said that Changmin is known for his live vocals, so ig it won't be a group who has proved their live singing a lot of times and who is known for their live vocals, so...
I mean, Mamamoo also lipsync for a few times, mostly due to technical req. Seeing them trying to lipsync was hilarious 😂😂😂 they were so bad at it. Just saying, that even for groups with amazing vocal ability, sometimes lipsync is inevitable, once or twice. Problem is when the group rarely singing live.
Lol, it’s perfect for him to be talking about this to Y and Joochan, who are super loud when warming up, and even do it to tease their leader when he’s talking to their bts camera.
Agree..a singer who sacrifice his/ her voice to lipsync just because the choreography is too hard should not be a singer but a dancer instead, being a dancer is a good too right
even after being in industry for 6 or 7 years some group can't sing properly there encore are really hard to watch but their fan come up with ohhh they are tired their chreography is tough
@@hwabyul3522 I seriously want to ask the idol, why chose to dance with such difficult choreography which really exhausting and make you can’t singing live while your job title is a singer not a dancer 🙄🤷♀️
Exactly! That's why it feels disappointing to see other fans encouraging their idols that lip sync is okay since choreo is hard and stuff. Like dude, i have been a fan of a group that always do live in all of their perfomances, especially on their concerts this year and even hearing them kind of tired on their last leg but still giving their best dancing while doing live singing is very much worth my money than seeing mannequins dancing.
It reminds me when BAP ask BTOB to be quiet for a while in a very comical way because they (BAP) are doing an interview.. HAHAHA It is funny and friendly... we all know how close both groups are And also, it is not because btob are warming up.. They are just being beagle just how like who they are.. And I love it
i think that's why minhyuk offers the apink memory as a form of distinction. it was obviously a serious/rude demand from the other group as opposed to the joking nature of bap/apink (esp since like he said minhuyk understands that it's loud, and they are sorry to those next to them but they still have to prioritize vocal warm-ups and a good show above the comfort of others).
@@parboninawar5850 I also didn't think it was BAP. It just reminds me of what happened that day. And like I said before, they are just joking because of BTOB were laughing here and there
me too thinking it is not B.A.P because usually B.A.P will sing live some more Peniel has said before in the short video that when he heard B.A.P especially when Daehyun doing throat warm up, he always has nightmare/goosebumb? 😆😆, probably because B.A.P has the same level of noisinest as BTOB...
One of the reasons why I respect so much for grps that managed to do live singing.. kpop nowadays just feel like dance competition with all those hard choreos but they aren't singing
I was worried if it was my ult group because you never know the real personality of your fav idol. But then he said the group always lipsync, and i was so relieved
As a 2nd gens kpoper , lol during that era the 3 boy groups that i can guarantee not the one are Infinite, Beast, BAP and VIXX. They get along well and there's a proof in Beatcom.
I still can't get over to this tea. 😂 I'm still wondering who is the group. But anyway, I'm happy how TVXQ Changmin supported them. BTOB is really taking their live performances seriously. 💙💙
BTOB and Mamamoo are the same in the waiting rooms, that's why they're legends. A noisy waiting room is where the real show begins before going on stage. This reminds me of Mamamoo waiting room.
I was really hoping sistar would after disbanding. Since they were scandal free, successful and had a sexy image, I bet they had heaps of jealous people come for them. Plus douche guys do this weird thing where when they know they have no chance with you, they're absolutely rude just to show THEY are the ones not interested in you first, I bet my left shoe many guys wanted their number. I'm really hoping for a memoir.
@@momiji7789 i remember when an idol said that male idols would try to get their number, especially if they are juniors. So I am sure many idols wanted their number.
seeing golcha and btob like this is sooooo cute ♡♡♡ proud of our joochan&sungyoon!! minhyuk really coming for those people for saying they lipsync HAHHAHA
My TVXQ boys always respectful and act professional 👏 BTOB is such a rare vocal group! Haters can't stand the fact BTOB sings well lmao so they were mean to them. Lack standards
@@yellow8980 not an EXO fan too and people who are commenting about Exo must not know them well enough. Those guys are made to sing live 😂 they even have live album 😂
As a cassie and melody, I'm so happy of waht Minhyuk said about Changmin. Yunho and Changmin are known to very supportive of their hoobaes. Anyway, anyone has a clue who the group that told them be quiet?
That's why btob managed to still active till now compared to that specific group bcs they use real voice ofc they need to warm their voice, while lipsync obviously doesn't need that and that's where their downfall begin.. Talent will always survive..i wonder if btob n svt room was side by side, they might start a warm up competition 🤣🤣🤣
I... might have actually worked out which groups were active at the time but aren't now. About 7 years would be 2015, meaning It's Okay or Way Back Home. Assuming no hoobae group would be *that* insane to say that to a senior, and given the culture in Korean entertainment where it would be *doubtful* (but not impossible!) that a girl group would say that to a boy group... there's a really good candidate for consideration... given that there were only 4 boy groups... and 2 of them were duos. And the other group is pretty well regarded in K-pop. (oh whoops did I give it away within my sentence? maybe 🤔🤔)
I don't know if you ever read an article about a group that badmouthed BTOB and then they had to apologize, I think it was only a member, I don't remember much and I think that group wasn't promoting at the time, but that situation came to my mind...
@@AomeWang ahhhh I hadn't seen that - but Jekki isn't the group (even though most first gens did have to lip sync until about 1999/2000 bc the shows didn't have equipment) - it's actually 24K that I have my suspicions about
I wonder who are those ppl but definitely not from BTOB's friends because their friends from another groups will not hesitate to join them later lol. Fans watching BTOB's btscenes knew these bunch of friends that joined their chaoticness.
I think the Meme of EXO Xiumin while Minhyuk talks about the incident may have caused people to assume it's EXO. But fans of K-pop will know that EXO has a very talented vocal line too and do not lip sync - so we need to stop taking it out of context.
There are a lot of memes inserted while he was talking, but haters won't leave EXO alone. Like he said that the group lip syncs most of the times so I'm wondering where did the people who are pointing at EXO drop their brains? Like how many times would they have to prove and we have to say that EXO does have really good live vocals and performances? I'm so fed up with these haters now fr!!
I love when idols spilled some tea. And i think it's rare for Korean idols. Like whenever i saw a kpop idols talk about industry who spilled the tea are mostly foreign idols.
I was a little disappointed that the groups didn't get to interact a lot during Kingdom, but when they did they basically forgot they were competing and just went crazy fanboying over each other. What I wouldn't give to be staff, or at least a fly on the wall for some of these events!
"They always only lipsync" bruh 💀 🤣🤣🤣 savage. Whist they're watching this video shocked at the audacity but can't say anything cause their identities will be revealed lol
Je pense que beaucoup ne savent pas qui sont les EXO… Parce que pour les pointer du doigts alors qu’ils chantaient MAMA en live sachant que la chorégraphie est super dur c’est vraiment ce moquer du monde. C’est très rare qu’ils fassent du lipsync. Dites tout simplement que vous les aimez pas parce que y’a pas à mentir de la sorte. Je vous invite fortement à revoir leur live à leur début avant de dire n’importe quoi…
Max is a class act. I'm confident that it was during "Kingdom" - recent, 4 members, only survival show - d'ugh 🤣❣ [To those who are confused by two SEPARATE stories, listen again and slowly. Clearly I'm not talking about the group from 7 years ago. 🤦♀️]
@@usandyouyouandwebtobandmelody he spoke about other group as a SEPARATE incident. The Max conversation was RECENT. It was on Kingdom and only four guys participated. How is this not clear?
Although I do think it is quite rude to ask them to be quiet, I also feel like I,personally, enjoy complete quiet when I am getting ready for my dance performance. Sometimes I’ll put headphones on just to block the noise from other people. It just depends on how this group asked them though. It obviously weighed a lot on his mind since he brought it up 7 years later, so they were probably really rude about asking
Exactly, but he also said that they were doing warm ups which is necessary for a singer, so asking them not to do it is just plain rude when in that situation, but well, i guess we’ll never know what happened exactly
Maybe it’s cause you’re a dancer and they are singers. I think it’s kinda his point that singers should sing. You kinda need to be loud and do a lot of warmups as a singer. I don’t think the no-noise preference is an option for singers, singers are encouraged to be loud, it’s expected, so if there’s anyone that doesn’t like it, singer might not be the suited profession for that person.
And how many times do I have to say that they weren't promoting when that happened to BtoB? They don't even think about when it was. They just keep naming Exo but also other groups that are still in the industry and that according to their logic they were at that moment lol 😂
I did a little research and I reduced the list to a few groups because he said that they are not an active group, they do not use live vocals and he does not specify gender. If it's a June comeback, it could be AOA, 9Muses and Hotshot, if it's an October comeback, it could be Topp Dogg or Melody Day. Because other groups are still active. He may be talking about award ceremonies. That's why I looked at them too. All the evidence seems to point to AOA, but since I don't know the group well, I can't make a definite comment note: I certainly didn't do this to insult or defame the group(s). Just for those who are wondering, I did a little research and I don't think Minhyuk is lying because why would he. (used Google Translate some parts)
in my mind, i care to know, not to make a point or attack (bc why waste the time - karma's already done her work! 😌💅🏻); so thank you for researching this! 🐸☕
Melody Day is another group who performed live very often...and they did better when they sing live than when they lipsync...Yeoeun's vocals is just amazing >
Yes, those are pretty chill- or 'very-chilling- and-unbothered' fandom, and i'm proud of that lol. Because we all know, their idol is very talented and didnt do any lipsync 👀✨️
I think starlights are by far the most respectful fans too I can say that because I’m also a starlight and omg btob fans are also so good I just love their energy.
i see moomoos fighting other fandoms a lot. however i think they would be a more peaceful fandom if ratmys don't token stan mamamoo and use them to provoke other gg fandoms
It reminds me of BAP and how they joked once telling Btob to be quiet, but I’m guessing not, since Minhyuk seems salty over it and it seems the other group was actually serious lol, but BAP was just joking
That group was so rude of that group honestly they could've just said keep it a bit low just like apink did but the fact he was sweetly savage "they always lipsync" that's y I love him! 🤣 (Idk much cause I'm new but I love this fact about them they're so polite 🥺)
I am also ExoL but you don't need to make a war for that. I haven't had time to reply to that comment yet (because there are so many and I've lost it among all the others) Anyway, Exo wasn't promoting at the time BtoB was doing it. These people name random groups or groups that they may not like, because people are like that 🤷
BTS.. industry will never respect them because the time theyre promoting,, the LIVE VOCAL of EXO, BTOB, 2NE1, GG, SHINEE ETC is insane. infact BTS was about to disband.. but glad they finally got HIT song and their hard work finally paid off. they can dance tho. To be fair jungkook can sing the rest are so-so
this reminds me of exo beint too loud in their waiting room while warming up and having to apologize for it 😭 ofc the 2 3rd gen vocal leaders would act the same 😹💗
Always have a back stories for someones b4 they popularity blow up.. Even yoo jae suk n bts experience the same things they was looking down,people ignored n back mouth them..we need together for a world changes spread the kindness n leave the hate..didnt all of us have the same blood colour
I think that the kpop groups around era 2009-2012. maybe a little senior than btob or the same year. it's so rude to knock your senior door if you're junior.
The fact that they always lip-synced might explain why they did not realize how important the warm up was. He never said that they were impolite or anything, he just compared the reaction with another singer that understands the importance of the warm ups. Stop acting like the first group did something so wrong that they should absolutely be found and named. Whoever that is, it's not important, I think that it's not such a bad thing to ask them to be quiet.
Imagine telling a singer who’s there to SING to not warm up because they are loud. Hello, that is their workplace, that is the preparation, they are not loud cause they are inconsiderate and rude, that is their job.
Not related to the video but where did you get this English translation from? Because there is a Golden Child fan account on twitter already translated this conversation like weeks ago with this exact translation. At least you should ask for her permission before bringing her translation tho, because being the translator is not easy at all, and you can't just bring all her effort to make your own video. Hope you give an explaination, thank you.
Here we go again... 1. is a group that is no longer in the industry. 2. You name groups of which at that time WERE NOT PROMOTING. Stop trying to be Sherlock lol
@@skzanarchist idk but i wanna know who it is too my friend 😂😂 but it did get me thinking of all the boy groups that were out 7 years ago and among them who is still promoting and not And their are a few of them Won't say no names because I might be wrong and i don't wont start an false content But its a few🤭
I don't know why people always have to try and play detective, just listen to the story People speculating is why many idols or celebs can't even tell stories because people always have to go and make it a mess
Duhh paham bangetttt, btob kan hampir semua member nya jago nada tinggi jelas pasti berisik diruang tunggu, orang yg tim vocal nya dikit aja juga pada berisik klo diruang tunggu, fyi seventeen sampe banyak grup yg curhat kalo sampingan sm mereka 🤣🤣🤣 Nb: diawal bang minhyuk bilang mereka udah gak aktif dan kejadiannya udah lama, so gausah berspekulatif yg enggak² ya guys 😇
Quedan muy pocos grupos como btob siempre me recordaban a tvxq5 por qué también harmonizaban muy lindo creo que por eso chanming los felicito el sabe las bases para ser un buen cantante ,ya que en esta industria parece que lo menos importante es tener un buen vocal ,importa mas ser apuesto y tener buenas expresiones .
Why yall pointing groups like B.A.P, Infinite, EXO & TEEN TOP?? These groups obviously suck in lip syncing + known for having great manners & close with BTOB. Stop pointing other groups randomly smh. Let it be a secret tho.
I love how Minhyuk is talking about vocal warmups despite him being arguably the hottest member in BTOB and being a rapper. It shows he cares about all aspects of his performance. Meanwhile 2020 kpop is just autotune lipsyncing everywhere.
Minhyuk said that that group is no longer active, so it can't be Suju. Plus Suju usually (if not always) sings live. But it would be funny if it really was them, since they are just as chaotic (I guess they scolded another group). However, some people think it's a gg and not a bg.
haven't watch the full episode but base ONLY to this video. I can see that he's comfortable saying it to his hoobaes maybe because Wollim also don't lipsync.
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I have to come here to clarify this because it seems like everyone knows who the group is when everyone are clearly naming groups just because they hate them or because they want attention....
Minhyuk said that it is a group that no longer promotes or is an old group.
Minhyuk would never say the name of the group, BtoB are respectful idols, the only ones who will know the truth will be the people who have been there at that moment or who Minhyuk wants to tell them.
There are groups that name that HAVE NOT BEEN PROMOTING on that date in which they were doing it.
So stop being such a hater that it shows a lot.
All those toxic people and who think they know who the group is bothers me a lot so when I have time I will delete unnecessary comments and with reasons for fighting.
If you don't like people talking bad about your group, don't do it, If you do it and then complain when others do the same as you, that is totally hypocritical.
Who’re the 2 guests in this video?
@@jacksonfreeman5132 Golden Child - Joochan & Sungyoon(Y)
So the captions at 0:06 is wrong? "This group isn't promoting nowadays"
@@unotso nope, they're correct! he said that is a group that is no longer promoting (i guess he means they either disbanded or have been inactive), but were an active group back in that time
@@cloverz3 Exactly. I was confused when the comment above is stating the groups weren't promoting the time it happened, which is misleading, because what I understood is that the group arent't promoting/ disbanded just like what you said.
Comments pointing at EXO were actually so absurd. EXO and BtoB were friends and despite the 1 month difference of their debut, exo addressed btob as sunbaes. And, exo are pretty well known to being noisy on their waiting rooms as well because of their vocal warm-ups. Chen had to apologize publicly at monsta x bcs baekhyun and him were so loud that they almost ruined monsta x's vlive lmao
plus imagine saying EXO lip syncs. Just pure bullshit
That story remind me of BAP yelling BTOB at the next room to be quiet because BAP were doing a interview, LIVE! LOL. from that scene, two groups were overlapping their chaoticness for a second, weren't they? 😅
Btw they're also friends.
Exo lip syncs? Aren’t they all really good vocalists?
@@yesplatinum7956who r u replying to? Most kpop artists use backing tracks. So it’s not lip syncing no, it’s like assisted live singing
Edit: whoops I completely missed the part in the video that said the group in question always lip sync. Now I know why u said that.
@@Denturess I didn’t tag anyone so I’m replying to the original comment, they mentioned that a lot of people thought it was exo but it doesn’t make sense to me because why would they lipsync? I was just wondering if they lip sync or not, I’m not saying that anyone here accused exo of lip syncing or whatever in case that is what you thought I was saying
Btob and svt, if they will ever have same scheds, should be assigned a room next to each other hahahhahhaa imagine the heavenly noise they'll produce while warming up. They both are known to be taking warm ups seriously hahhaha.
They would be competing from their room 😂
Omg yes true. i love BTOB and SVT, both. It would be chaos but amazing 😂
Yes! This would be a dream come true! We know DK has been yelled at by another group before for warming up.
And Mamamoo too. That's gonna be chaos at best.
@@AomeWang omg they'd be competing as if their life depends on it. seungkwan and changsub gonna explode fr
I love changmin for complimenting them- total game recognize game moment there. Meanwhile, lipsync folks want to run their mouths lol
I think it's because that's what Changmin does as well lol
@@Julianna_w no he doesn’t
@@brennathecatlover4360 what I meant is that he too does vocal warmups. I have recently watched an OT5 TVXQ concert - there is no way that those guys can handle an entire concert with incredible live singing if not for top discipline.
@@Julianna_w OT5 DBSK were kpop God's. Their live vocals were like, out if this world. DB5K and BTOB are my fav groups for that very reason. JYJ and 2vxq still retained their vocals after the split too.
@@abcd-jk4zb mad skills aside, OT5 TVXQ were loud as heck too back in the day LMAO changmin is the quieter member but he prolly relates to hearing his member(s) get noisy while messing around :) I miss all the screaming and laughter from them
the idea of apink and btob harmonizing during warmups in different rooms is so funny to me ahjsk
If the big hyung Changmin says it's ok, then it's good enough for everyone else 😄 I've watched an OT5 TVXQ concert recently and each member can truly truly sing
OT5 TVXQ is the standard, the first group I ever stand is TVXQ. They have set the bar too high for me that I only could fan MAMAMOO and BTOB right now
To this day, I don't think kpop has produced a more "perfect" group than OT5 TVXQ
I mean, Xiah is one of the best vocalist in KPOP, as well as Changmin and Jaejoong. I mean Changmin's part in Rising Sun always mesmerized me.
@@nisanurhadi5149 yeah Junsu is my fav vocalist in that group
@@wenthong2537 wow hi there! An old cassie! I used to be a cassie too! 🤩 They hardly even used backing vocals when dancing. You could clearly hear their voices. No group can compare vocally. Their harmonization was perfecttttt. KPOP now is more dance and visual oriented. Groups NEVER sing live in their comeback shows anymore. They use a pre recorded version to make it sound live. It’s all about looking perfect.
This made me remember EXO being loud and warming up while Monsta X was doing a Vlive next to their waiting room
Both Chen and Baek had to apologize because of how loud they were being 😂
yeah that's what I thought of too lol
I remember that omg. The fact that chen was also saying sorry makes it funnier 😭🤣
But remember BTOB appeared on Monsta X's show and they were all SO loud! MX sings live too, but they call themselves down during warm ups🤣
@@georgiacarroll9148 monsta x having hard time that day lol
Thiis type of tea is what we long for from 2nd gen idols
Yeah but btob is 3rd gen
they are 3rd gen btw
I guess I know why we never got enough BTOB & GOT7 interactions. Staff probably kept them apart for the own sanity 😂
Lmfao 🤣 yes
Exactly
They did have quite a bit interactions but got7 was alot newer than them so they didnt collide much
Lmfaoo they’d be driving each other crazy
@@erinalance5183 I have seen their very few captured interactions. It's just when you see them seperate - you can only imagine the absolute chaos together 🤣
And I remember once infinite and btob were asigned rooms next to each other and they ended up competing to check who does the loudest warm up😁😁😁😁🥰🥰
Lmfao. That's one way to make warm up's fun
@@Noviosity yaaa indeed, if am not wrong they also said that next to them was shinee and jonghyun once said he got startled by these two's noise but eventually had a friendly match of vocals. That's when other groups said you shouldn't take green room next to these people it gonna interrupt your peaceful time before stage performance(most of the groups said it as a joke)😂😂😍😍
Like sunbae, like hoobae 🤣 exactly like what Joochan and Sungyoon is talking about in this vid. When they're having a vocal warm up competition with the other rookie groups
Good ol' second Gen to 3rd Genish days
Oh! Thank you for the info! I didn't know about that. Both groups are my favorite =)
If BTOB, GOT7 and SVT all shared the same room everyone’s ears would bleed from the noise😂
That would be the reason of noise pollution
iKON too💀
@@impuritiesmvperodanceperfo4339 Only imagining
Junhoe next to Seungkwan and Eunkwang makes me cover my ears lol hahahahah
Total chaos😅🤣🤣
I will say something very obvious, but this is for those who are not fans or are new to the fandom (?
Minhyuk never said the name of the group and he won't say it, it's respect and something that happened a long time ago.
BtoB and Melody are respectful people, that even though Minhyuk has said what he said (he has his reasons) I'm sure the industry or the people that work in this, will know it.
they are also known as acapella group so imagine their live vocals.
I am sure it's not B.A.P because they are as caotic as them..or were
@@Luisa10_03 yeah they also sing live !
@@snowfreezer2863 omg so true!!!!! mamamoo lipsync queens!!!! /sar
sarcasm aside they sing live most of the time and are in good terms with btob lol
@@Luisa10_03 so true lmaooo bap probably screamed along with them 😂😂😂😂
everybody in the comments here saying their fav never lipsyncs 😭😭 besties i promise u every kpop group has lipsynced at least a few times regardless of how well they sing live.
He said they "always" lip sync and then he said that Changmin is known for his live vocals, so ig it won't be a group who has proved their live singing a lot of times and who is known for their live vocals, so...
Yeah, everybody does it! When Minhyuk said Changmin is known for singing live, I remembered every time he _tries_ to lipsync lol it's so funny to see.
I mean, Mamamoo also lipsync for a few times, mostly due to technical req. Seeing them trying to lipsync was hilarious 😂😂😂 they were so bad at it.
Just saying, that even for groups with amazing vocal ability, sometimes lipsync is inevitable, once or twice.
Problem is when the group rarely singing live.
Lol, it’s perfect for him to be talking about this to Y and Joochan, who are super loud when warming up, and even do it to tease their leader when he’s talking to their bts camera.
I forgot who said this but he said "singer have to sing live. If u can't sing live don't be a singer"
I think it's eunkwang who said that.
And it's true.
Agree..a singer who sacrifice his/ her voice to lipsync just because the choreography is too hard should not be a singer but a dancer instead, being a dancer is a good too right
even after being in industry for 6 or 7 years some group can't sing properly there encore are really hard to watch but their fan come up with ohhh they are tired their chreography is tough
@@hwabyul3522 I seriously want to ask the idol, why chose to dance with such difficult choreography which really exhausting and make you can’t singing live while your job title is a singer not a dancer 🙄🤷♀️
Exactly! That's why it feels disappointing to see other fans encouraging their idols that lip sync is okay since choreo is hard and stuff. Like dude, i have been a fan of a group that always do live in all of their perfomances, especially on their concerts this year and even hearing them kind of tired on their last leg but still giving their best dancing while doing live singing is very much worth my money than seeing mannequins dancing.
It reminds me when BAP ask BTOB to be quiet for a while in a very comical way because they (BAP) are doing an interview..
HAHAHA It is funny and friendly... we all know how close both groups are
And also, it is not because btob are warming up.. They are just being beagle just how like who they are.. And I love it
I thought so too at first but I think it's not B.A.P they're talking about. They were really good with live stages.
i think that's why minhyuk offers the apink memory as a form of distinction. it was obviously a serious/rude demand from the other group as opposed to the joking nature of bap/apink (esp since like he said minhuyk understands that it's loud, and they are sorry to those next to them but they still have to prioritize vocal warm-ups and a good show above the comfort of others).
@@parboninawar5850 I also didn't think it was BAP. It just reminds me of what happened that day. And like I said before, they are just joking because of BTOB were laughing here and there
me too thinking it is not B.A.P because usually B.A.P will sing live some more Peniel has said before in the short video that when he heard B.A.P especially when Daehyun doing throat warm up, he always has nightmare/goosebumb? 😆😆, probably because B.A.P has the same level of noisinest as BTOB...
Lol I remember them also doing that to seventeen 😭
Changmin as always only knows to tell facts ❤️
Never change, changmin
One of the reasons why I respect so much for grps that managed to do live singing.. kpop nowadays just feel like dance competition with all those hard choreos but they aren't singing
There are numerous groups who do tough choreography and live singing within kpop.
I was worried if it was my ult group because you never know the real personality of your fav idol. But then he said the group always lipsync, and i was so relieved
As a 2nd gens kpoper , lol during that era the 3 boy groups that i can guarantee not the one are Infinite, Beast, BAP and VIXX. They get along well and there's a proof in Beatcom.
I still can't get over to this tea. 😂
I'm still wondering who is the group. But anyway, I'm happy how TVXQ Changmin supported them.
BTOB is really taking their live performances seriously. 💙💙
The KPop tea not usually this hot, I am also super curious and the fact that Minhyuk is the one that spilling the tea, he must be mad or disappointed
I’m curious too…because many 2nd Gen groups didn’t lip sync
I think it was either a tv or jyp group
Btob members are ambassador of tea spilling group
BTOB and Mamamoo are the same in the waiting rooms, that's why they're legends. A noisy waiting room is where the real show begins before going on stage. This reminds me of Mamamoo waiting room.
Solar has a part switch with Changsub on her channel. It’s so good 😊
We need more tea from more idols lol.
I was really hoping sistar would after disbanding. Since they were scandal free, successful and had a sexy image, I bet they had heaps of jealous people come for them. Plus douche guys do this weird thing where when they know they have no chance with you, they're absolutely rude just to show THEY are the ones not interested in you first, I bet my left shoe many guys wanted their number. I'm really hoping for a memoir.
@@momiji7789 i remember when an idol said that male idols would try to get their number, especially if they are juniors. So I am sure many idols wanted their number.
It’s funny that most comments were defending and describing how loud their favorite idols are! 😂
Hhhaha yes.
Like ..what kind of loud😂...is it loud like what he meant..? Warming up their voice for live performance..? Or just noisy?😂😂😂
I'm proud of BTOB always because they are the real singer or the real kpop idol, the best singer.... Good job BTOB always live singer / no lipsync
Changmins knows coz they do that too. Vocalization before every performance is very important.
I remember how BTOB, BAP, VIXX AND APINK would LITERALLY be NOISY af with each other... Seriously be sorry for the neighboring groups 🤣
seeing golcha and btob like this is sooooo cute ♡♡♡ proud of our joochan&sungyoon!!
minhyuk really coming for those people for saying they lipsync HAHHAHA
My TVXQ boys always respectful and act professional 👏 BTOB is such a rare vocal group! Haters can't stand the fact BTOB sings well lmao so they were mean to them. Lack standards
the fact some people are actually saying exo is ridiculous 😭
Nah! I am not exol but Exo do have amazing live vocal performance, and they do live very often
EXO just getting so many unnecessary hate when they're indeed have one of the best vocal line in kpop😭 it's funny tho , just ignore them😭
@@yellow8980 not an EXO fan too and people who are commenting about Exo must not know them well enough. Those guys are made to sing live 😂 they even have live album 😂
Is BTS....right😕😕😕???
@@tatiana-bi5fq noo if they brave enough to bark their door like that, it must be a senior group and some said that the group probably are AOA
As a cassie and melody, I'm so happy of waht Minhyuk said about Changmin. Yunho and Changmin are known to very supportive of their hoobaes.
Anyway, anyone has a clue who the group that told them be quiet?
💙💙💙you know a real talent should be... than a 'trying hard talent'
Now imagine TREASURE next to any artists dressing room. They always warm up their vocals so loud especially Jihoon warmup is pretty loud.
🤌🤣🤣🤣the tea.....btob are the best ballad Vocalist and really good rappers
That's why btob managed to still active till now compared to that specific group bcs they use real voice ofc they need to warm their voice, while lipsync obviously doesn't need that and that's where their downfall begin.. Talent will always survive..i wonder if btob n svt room was side by side, they might start a warm up competition 🤣🤣🤣
Minhyuk is so savage for this. LOLOLOLOLOL
I... might have actually worked out which groups were active at the time but aren't now. About 7 years would be 2015, meaning It's Okay or Way Back Home. Assuming no hoobae group would be *that* insane to say that to a senior, and given the culture in Korean entertainment where it would be *doubtful* (but not impossible!) that a girl group would say that to a boy group... there's a really good candidate for consideration... given that there were only 4 boy groups... and 2 of them were duos. And the other group is pretty well regarded in K-pop. (oh whoops did I give it away within my sentence? maybe 🤔🤔)
I don't know if you ever read an article about a group that badmouthed BTOB and then they had to apologize, I think it was only a member, I don't remember much and I think that group wasn't promoting at the time, but that situation came to my mind...
@@AomeWang Oh I haven't seen that!
I found the article haha
www.koreaboo.com/news/former-sechs-kies-member-kang-sunghoon-calls-current-idols-fcking-ugly/
@@AomeWang ahhhh I hadn't seen that - but Jekki isn't the group (even though most first gens did have to lip sync until about 1999/2000 bc the shows didn't have equipment) - it's actually 24K that I have my suspicions about
@@aislin2989 I didn't remember that he had debuted in 2012... maybe haha
How dare that group told BTOB to be quite while they warming up?!! How dare?!!!
I wonder who are those ppl but definitely not from BTOB's friends because their friends from another groups will not hesitate to join them later lol. Fans watching BTOB's btscenes knew these bunch of friends that joined their chaoticness.
true
I think the Meme of EXO Xiumin while Minhyuk talks about the incident may have caused people to assume it's EXO. But fans of K-pop will know that EXO has a very talented vocal line too and do not lip sync - so we need to stop taking it out of context.
There are a lot of memes inserted while he was talking, but haters won't leave EXO alone. Like he said that the group lip syncs most of the times so I'm wondering where did the people who are pointing at EXO drop their brains? Like how many times would they have to prove and we have to say that EXO does have really good live vocals and performances? I'm so fed up with these haters now fr!!
I'm not Exo-l but Exo' vocals are no joke. They are one of the best and no one can't say otherwise.
I love when idols spilled some tea. And i think it's rare for Korean idols. Like whenever i saw a kpop idols talk about industry who spilled the tea are mostly foreign idols.
he prob told them the whole tea afterwards, he just cant say it in front of cams 😂
Ese es el tipo de profesionalismo que se maneja BTOB y se demuestra en cada uno de sus shows💙💙💙💙💙💙💙
I was a little disappointed that the groups didn't get to interact a lot during Kingdom, but when they did they basically forgot they were competing and just went crazy fanboying over each other. What I wouldn't give to be staff, or at least a fly on the wall for some of these events!
Spitting fire elegantly, like the gent he is.
I am SO glad he said this. ✨
"They always only lipsync" bruh 💀 🤣🤣🤣 savage. Whist they're watching this video shocked at the audacity but can't say anything cause their identities will be revealed lol
They probably can't relate to the importance of warm up 😏
Je pense que beaucoup ne savent pas qui sont les EXO… Parce que pour les pointer du doigts alors qu’ils chantaient MAMA en live sachant que la chorégraphie est super dur c’est vraiment ce moquer du monde. C’est très rare qu’ils fassent du lipsync. Dites tout simplement que vous les aimez pas parce que y’a pas à mentir de la sorte.
Je vous invite fortement à revoir leur live à leur début avant de dire n’importe quoi…
Max is a class act. I'm confident that it was during "Kingdom" - recent, 4 members, only survival show - d'ugh 🤣❣ [To those who are confused by two SEPARATE stories, listen again and slowly.
Clearly I'm not talking about the group from 7 years ago. 🤦♀️]
Me too hahaha and I'm still bothered as to who is was, my bad!
It was seven years ago 😂. The person is not promoting anymore. Spare the kingdom groups. Lol.
@@usandyouyouandwebtobandmelody he spoke about other group as a SEPARATE incident. The Max conversation was RECENT. It was on Kingdom and only four guys participated. How is this not clear?
You see why you don't have to trust all idols 😀? They are not like what they show us in the camera.
That instrumental at the end of this video is dangerous... I'm forced to subject those around me to unwarranted singing....
One thing for sure it is not B.A.P 😄 #BTOBAP 💙💚
Although I do think it is quite rude to ask them to be quiet, I also feel like I,personally, enjoy complete quiet when I am getting ready for my dance performance. Sometimes I’ll put headphones on just to block the noise from other people. It just depends on how this group asked them though. It obviously weighed a lot on his mind since he brought it up 7 years later, so they were probably really rude about asking
Exactly, but he also said that they were doing warm ups which is necessary for a singer, so asking them not to do it is just plain rude when in that situation, but well, i guess we’ll never know what happened exactly
Maybe it’s cause you’re a dancer and they are singers. I think it’s kinda his point that singers should sing. You kinda need to be loud and do a lot of warmups as a singer. I don’t think the no-noise preference is an option for singers, singers are encouraged to be loud, it’s expected, so if there’s anyone that doesn’t like it, singer might not be the suited profession for that person.
Here Minhyuk said that the said isn't promoting anymore... So those who are saying EXO is kinda absurd.
And how many times do I have to say that they weren't promoting when that happened to BtoB? They don't even think about when it was. They just keep naming Exo but also other groups that are still in the industry and that according to their logic they were at that moment lol 😂
I'm Glad a idol that always Sing live call out the mess on going of Lipsync. Started with the 4th generation and spred all over kpop.
100% older group.
now list them !!!
I did a little research and I reduced the list to a few groups because he said that they are not an active group, they do not use live vocals and he does not specify gender. If it's a June comeback, it could be AOA, 9Muses and Hotshot, if it's an October comeback, it could be Topp Dogg or Melody Day. Because other groups are still active.
He may be talking about award ceremonies. That's why I looked at them too. All the evidence seems to point to AOA, but since I don't know the group well, I can't make a definite comment
note: I certainly didn't do this to insult or defame the group(s). Just for those who are wondering, I did a little research and I don't think Minhyuk is lying because why would he. (used Google Translate some parts)
You are amazing.
in my mind, i care to know, not to make a point or attack (bc why waste the time - karma's already done her work! 😌💅🏻); so thank you for researching this! 🐸☕
@@milksomecows thanks :)
@@curiositykilledthekat you're welcomeee i had free minutes and a good tea in my hand, i just used it :)
Melody Day is another group who performed live very often...and they did better when they sing live than when they lipsync...Yeoeun's vocals is just amazing >
Mamamoo moomoo ,Btob melody and bigbang VIP has the most respect,mannerisms , love and peaceful fandom
Yes, those are pretty chill- or 'very-chilling- and-unbothered' fandom, and i'm proud of that lol. Because we all know, their idol is very talented and didnt do any lipsync 👀✨️
Yes it's give chill just enjoy their awesome songs and performances
I think starlights are by far the most respectful fans too I can say that because I’m also a starlight and omg btob fans are also so good I just love their energy.
i see moomoos fighting other fandoms a lot. however i think they would be a more peaceful fandom if ratmys don't token stan mamamoo and use them to provoke other gg fandoms
@@OO27.88 sorry what’s ratmys
It reminds me of BAP and how they joked once telling Btob to be quiet, but I’m guessing not, since Minhyuk seems salty over it and it seems the other group was actually serious lol, but BAP was just joking
B.A.P were joking & known as a group that always singing live ♡
BAP and BTOB are also good friends
B.A.P has sung live before tho 🤔 so it does not apply to them *should not
B.A.P would tell others to be quiet only to warm up and get loud themselves lol
This reminds me of Seventeen XD their warm up routine and their senior telling them to keep quiet
That group was so rude of that group honestly they could've just said keep it a bit low just like apink did but the fact he was sweetly savage "they always lipsync" that's y I love him! 🤣 (Idk much cause I'm new but I love this fact about them they're so polite 🥺)
To those who mention EXO's name here, brace yourselves. ExoLs coming at you. 😉
I'm a fan of EXO and BTOB for their amazing vocals, btw.
I am also ExoL but you don't need to make a war for that.
I haven't had time to reply to that comment yet (because there are so many and I've lost it among all the others)
Anyway, Exo wasn't promoting at the time BtoB was doing it.
These people name random groups or groups that they may not like, because people are like that 🤷
Don’t mess with the wrong person they say 😆. The group who said that must feel shame now 😏.
BTS.. industry will never respect them because the time theyre promoting,, the LIVE VOCAL of EXO, BTOB, 2NE1, GG, SHINEE ETC is insane. infact BTS was about to disband.. but glad they finally got HIT song and their hard work finally paid off. they can dance tho. To be fair jungkook can sing the rest are so-so
this reminds me of exo beint too loud in their waiting room while warming up and having to apologize for it 😭 ofc the 2 3rd gen vocal leaders would act the same 😹💗
Well bap had on camera to ask btob to quiet down but they dont lip sync and they are friends and always just joke around
Yeah, they are friends
Always have a back stories for someones b4 they popularity blow up..
Even yoo jae suk n bts experience the same things they was looking down,people ignored n back mouth them..we need together for a world changes spread the kindness n leave the hate..didnt all of us have the same blood colour
I wish all NCT members warm up in the waiting room beside of that X group just to see how much they gonna be bothered
feel like could be senior grp or same debut as them(2012).. since 7 yrs ago is 2015?
Imagine 23 people warming up on the room next to yours🔇🔇🔇🔇🔇🔇
I think that the kpop groups around era 2009-2012. maybe a little senior than btob or the same year. it's so rude to knock your senior door if you're junior.
The fact that they always lip-synced might explain why they did not realize how important the warm up was. He never said that they were impolite or anything, he just compared the reaction with another singer that understands the importance of the warm ups.
Stop acting like the first group did something so wrong that they should absolutely be found and named.
Whoever that is, it's not important, I think that it's not such a bad thing to ask them to be quiet.
they dare to ask btob to keep it down before doing a live ? 🤨
Imagine telling a singer who’s there to SING to not warm up because they are loud. Hello, that is their workplace, that is the preparation, they are not loud cause they are inconsiderate and rude, that is their job.
Oh my gosh!!! The tea was hot🍵🐸
Nah, I think it’s a senior group to them. No junior would dare do that. Quite interesting tho. 😏
I'm sorry but I lost it at Max Changbin 😭
I love them because they sing live not now a days more lips****
Not related to the video but where did you get this English translation from? Because there is a Golden Child fan account on twitter already translated this conversation like weeks ago with this exact translation. At least you should ask for her permission before bringing her translation tho, because being the translator is not easy at all, and you can't just bring all her effort to make your own video. Hope you give an explaination, thank you.
so many melodies also translated this conversation on twitter go check
the reason idol dont spills. Minhyuk just say this in general as it's happen 7y ago but people are already fighting😂
Here we go again...
1. is a group that is no longer in the industry.
2. You name groups of which at that time WERE NOT PROMOTING.
Stop trying to be Sherlock lol
Oh I'm curious, yeah 😆 had to sing it, sorry
i was nervous thinking that it's BAP that he meant but BAP dont even do lipsync so im good
BAP sings live
@@inquisitvem6723 ikr that’s what im saying
BAP is friend of BTOB. They're close and even they're eating in their one room. I miss them.
"They always lip sing" the shade 😎 🤣🤣🤣 and I'm here for it
who is it😭
@@skzanarchist idk but i wanna know who it is too my friend 😂😂 but it did get me thinking of all the boy groups that were out 7 years ago and among them who is still promoting and not
And their are a few of them
Won't say no names because I might be wrong and i don't wont start an false content
But its a few🤭
@@myfantasyisnct Definitely not bap, vixx, teen top, infinite and EXO.
I don't know why people always have to try and play detective, just listen to the story
People speculating is why many idols or celebs can't even tell stories because people always have to go and make it a mess
It could literally be a nugu group
There were many groups debuting and disbaning just like now
Melo detective let’s go 🧐😎😂
Have theory? 😅
The audacity of those people to asked btob to shut up, but proceeds to lip sync their performance. 🙄
Duhh paham bangetttt, btob kan hampir semua member nya jago nada tinggi jelas pasti berisik diruang tunggu, orang yg tim vocal nya dikit aja juga pada berisik klo diruang tunggu, fyi seventeen sampe banyak grup yg curhat kalo sampingan sm mereka 🤣🤣🤣
Nb: diawal bang minhyuk bilang mereka udah gak aktif dan kejadiannya udah lama, so gausah berspekulatif yg enggak² ya guys 😇
Kepooo emang siapa sih grup yg suka lip sing ini 🤣
As expected of singers 😂 love it
Quedan muy pocos grupos como btob siempre me recordaban a tvxq5 por qué también harmonizaban muy lindo creo que por eso chanming los felicito el sabe las bases para ser un buen cantante ,ya que en esta industria parece que lo menos importante es tener un buen vocal ,importa mas ser apuesto y tener buenas expresiones .
BTOB and SVT together would be so chaotic cause SVT is known for being noisy and they are always singing in their green room specially DK
I’m sorry, I can only stare at Minkyuk’s arm….. 🫣
Why yall pointing groups like B.A.P, Infinite, EXO & TEEN TOP?? These groups obviously suck in lip syncing + known for having great manners & close with BTOB. Stop pointing other groups randomly smh. Let it be a secret tho.
Jamming to BTOB songs since I was 10 (2008). Ngl, they're the best among the best! We stan splendid singers, BTOB🧡 Melody always be with you~
BTOB debuted 2012 ^^'
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girl btob was debuted at 2012 wdym
Maybe op meant they were born in 2008
what?wdym? they debuted in 2012😭😭
Gosh.. I'm watching btob content then stumbled into this .. i was like why the guy in glasses look familiar... It's Joochan 😭😭 my old bias 😭😭
I love how Minhyuk is talking about vocal warmups despite him being arguably the hottest member in BTOB and being a rapper. It shows he cares about all aspects of his performance. Meanwhile 2020 kpop is just autotune lipsyncing everywhere.
When I learned about BTOB through Kingdom, I thought he was a vocalist at first. 😂
Suju? Bcs thy reveal they scolding 1 group for noises 😂
Minhyuk said that that group is no longer active, so it can't be Suju. Plus Suju usually (if not always) sings live. But it would be funny if it really was them, since they are just as chaotic (I guess they scolded another group). However, some people think it's a gg and not a bg.
Ok, so... Noisy Neighbor: Idol Edition. In other news, water is wet.
haven't watch the full episode but base ONLY to this video. I can see that he's comfortable saying it to his hoobaes maybe because Wollim also don't lipsync.