My grandfather played for South Melbourne around that era.Alf (sonny) Dowsing;he left and went to Prahran as Capt;apparently VFA players were paid more than VFL and I guess he needed the money.My Dad,Roy played >100 games with Melbourne and I played 16 @ Melbourne 4 @ Sth Melbourne then went to Prahran in the VFA.My family were the 1st grandfather /father/son combination but since then many other families have performed the same feat 😂
Wonder who performed the colourizing. From and era when uniforms were not uniform for football. Have to check up how long South Melbourne kept the sash. My grandmother gave me a swap card of her neighbours son Freddie Goldsmith wearing the sash.
Prior to the start of the 1880 VFA season South Melbourne had worn Blue & White Hoops (1874 - 1877) they then added a Red Sash (1878 & 1879). At the end of the 1879 season South Melbourne merged with Albert Park whose colours were Red & White Hoops (canvas lace up jersey). From the 1880 season on the merged club (named as South Melbourne) "Adopted" the Albert Park strip which stayed the same through to their last VFA season in 1896 , on into the new VFL from 1897 and worn to the end of 1904. In 1905 & 1906 South Melbourne went to a White canvas lace up jersey with 2 Red Braces (Vertical stripes). The long sleeved (woollen) & short sleeved canvas lace up ones with the Red sash were introduced from 1907 through to 1919 & from 1923 to end of 1931 (the lace up version gradually phased out in preference to long sleeved jumpers). The exception , that of 1920 to 1922 seasons being an all Red jumper with a White SMFC monogram. From 1932 the South Melbourne White with Red Vee made its debut and stayed that way (including South's first 5 years up in Sydney 1982 - 1986) until the start of 1987 when the 1st "Opera House" logo on a Red Vee Yoke was introduced. As for Fred Goldsmith (1955 Brownlow Medal Winner) he played from 1951 to the end of 1959 (9 season all up) and by that time the South jumper was well established as the White with Red Vee so any "Sash" jumper worn would have either been inherited from someone who played for South when that jumper was the playing / match one or who knows maybe a jumper worn for footy training ? , would never have been match worn over Fred's career. Odd to relate that in the year Fred Goldsmith won the Brownlow he was South's Full Back , from the next year he must have been moved forward because whilst his 1956 goal tally was minor (16) his following 2 seasons saw him win the club goal kicking with 43 goals in 1957 and finishing 2nd in the club goal kicking with 33 goals in 1958 (Max Oaten finished top with 34) then FWIW Fred's tally dropped right off in his final year (1959 / 11 Goals).
Not until 2029 - the French Revolution was in 1789, 120 years before 1909 Grand Final. But it was played closer to Napoleon's reign than the present day!
@@nathanyouwanker The French Revolution wasn't over in a year, it lasted a full decade, the king wasn't even officially deposed until 1792. The generally accepted end date for the French Revolution is 1799 (Napoleon's coup), meaning that this match was played about 110 years after the French Revolution.
That was shot with colour film by Rothmans cigarette company, channel 7 used the footage during the 2010 Brownlow medal for the 40th anniversary of the 1970 VFL grand final. In the same year the Carlton historian requested a copy of the footage that I actually stumbled across in a East Brunswick video show in the 1980s that was added to another documentary. Previously Carlton couldn’t get the rare footage as Rothmans wouldn’t hand it over due to cigarette advertising being banned.
@@Gezza1967 Was the entire 1970 GF filmed in colour, or was it just highlights? I remember watching the black and white replay at Princes Park on a screen on the ground not long after the GF. We sat in the Heatley Stand. I'm sure the same thing again happened in 1972. A long time ago now.
This is remarkable on so many levels....the hats people used to wear, the beautiful Stadium we had long since replaced with concrete.
My grandfather played for South Melbourne around that era.Alf (sonny) Dowsing;he left and went to Prahran as Capt;apparently VFA players were paid more than VFL and I guess he needed the money.My Dad,Roy played >100 games with Melbourne and I played 16 @ Melbourne 4 @ Sth Melbourne then went to Prahran in the VFA.My family were the 1st grandfather /father/son combination but since then many other families have performed the same feat 😂
WOW! I actually feel like I'm there! Nice footage!
Wonder who performed the colourizing.
From and era when uniforms were not uniform for football.
Have to check up how long South Melbourne kept the sash.
My grandmother gave me a swap card of her neighbours son Freddie Goldsmith wearing the sash.
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Was the Production Company.
@@Gezza1967 can’t wait for the next video. It’s been a week.
Prior to the start of the 1880 VFA season South Melbourne had worn Blue & White Hoops (1874 - 1877) they then added a Red Sash (1878 & 1879). At the end of the 1879 season South Melbourne merged with Albert Park whose colours were Red & White Hoops (canvas lace up jersey). From the 1880 season on the merged club (named as South Melbourne) "Adopted" the Albert Park strip which stayed the same through to their last VFA season in 1896 , on into the new VFL from 1897 and worn to the end of 1904. In 1905 & 1906 South Melbourne went to a White canvas lace up jersey with 2 Red Braces (Vertical stripes). The long sleeved (woollen) & short sleeved canvas lace up ones with the Red sash were introduced from 1907 through to 1919 & from 1923 to end of 1931 (the lace up version gradually phased out in preference to long sleeved jumpers). The exception , that of 1920 to 1922 seasons being an all Red jumper with a White SMFC monogram. From 1932 the South Melbourne White with Red Vee made its debut and stayed that way (including South's first 5 years up in Sydney 1982 - 1986) until the start of 1987 when the 1st "Opera House" logo on a Red Vee Yoke was introduced. As for Fred Goldsmith (1955 Brownlow Medal Winner) he played from 1951 to the end of 1959 (9 season all up) and by that time the South jumper was well established as the White with Red Vee so any "Sash" jumper worn would have either been inherited from someone who played for South when that jumper was the playing / match one or who knows maybe a jumper worn for footy training ? , would never have been match worn over Fred's career. Odd to relate that in the year Fred Goldsmith won the Brownlow he was South's Full Back , from the next year he must have been moved forward because whilst his 1956 goal tally was minor (16) his following 2 seasons saw him win the club goal kicking with 43 goals in 1957 and finishing 2nd in the club goal kicking with 33 goals in 1958 (Max Oaten finished top with 34) then FWIW Fred's tally dropped right off in his final year (1959 / 11 Goals).
This match was played closer to the French Revolution than to the present day.
Not until 2029 - the French Revolution was in 1789, 120 years before 1909 Grand Final. But it was played closer to Napoleon's reign than the present day!
@@nathanyouwanker The French Revolution wasn't over in a year, it lasted a full decade, the king wasn't even officially deposed until 1792. The generally accepted end date for the French Revolution is 1799 (Napoleon's coup), meaning that this match was played about 110 years after the French Revolution.
Ch 9 recorded the '73 GF between Carl & Rich in colour, I don't think it's ever been seen in full, unfortunately.
What a gem. Thanks again Geeza1967 for posting.
Cheers Brian 👍
@@danrobinson572 sorry, been a bit slack😁👍
@@danrobinson572 cheers.
Great work....sad to think that every person featured is now dead😢
It's sad that you like to think about death
@@planetx1595 it is a reality that science may one day curtail
@@planetx1595 lol i get it though, i think it prob goes thru most peoples minds
@J G LMAO It's the Man U troll and like your team you are on a massive losing streak 👉🏐👉💩👉🤫
I remember a few years back channel 7 colourised the 1970 VFL grand final but l have never seen much footage of it.
That was shot with colour film by Rothmans cigarette company, channel 7 used the footage during the 2010 Brownlow medal for the 40th anniversary of the 1970 VFL grand final. In the same year the Carlton historian requested a copy of the footage that I actually stumbled across in a East Brunswick video show in the 1980s that was added to another documentary. Previously Carlton couldn’t get the rare footage as Rothmans wouldn’t hand it over due to cigarette advertising being banned.
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@@Gezza1967 great work
@@Gezza1967
Was the entire 1970 GF filmed in colour, or was it just highlights?
I remember watching the black and white replay at Princes Park on a screen on the ground not long after the GF. We sat in the Heatley Stand. I'm sure the same thing again happened in 1972. A long time ago now.
@@danrobinson572 cheers👍
0:38 No joke, I think the bloke under the women with the big hat is my Great Great Great Grandfather!🤣
Check out the bay 13 ankle flashers @ 0:25
They weren't the Swans then.
Very recognisable as Aussie Rules
Carlton players in two different different guernseys, I wonder what that was about?
yes very strange
Do you know who pro Hart is? if you do answer me!
th-cam.com/video/8qb4n8yc2so/w-d-xo.html
Yes
An artist
Up the Swans!