Dave. The hydrolic had a nitrogen charge tank for the quick lift to make up for the small pump. I had a 6000 years ago, put the rear tires on my Case 400. I still have the rear fenders, sterring wheel and gages off that 6000. You can have them if you come get them. Richard
The transmission were called Select-O-Speed. Our Ford dealer had a red one with the narrow front end . They ordered it with a five bottom semi-mount plow. It was a cool tractor.
The 6000 was much like the IHC 560, once the recall was completed they did well. We had one with the diesel motor, it had a M&W turbo on it and performed well, easy on fuel and plenty of power. Good advice not to power shift under full load as that is a good way to wear it out, just like the early IHC TA system, with a bit of operator fore sight they do last well enough, if abused they all will give issues. The designer did go over to Deere and developed their powershift trans, only Deere allowed him to do it his way, the rest is history as they say.
Neat! I agree with you, the early sixties blue and gray Ford paint scheme was one of their best. Hopefully Doc can get back together and we can see it run again.
Here is the biggest problem with the 6000 is that the diesel engine was a gas engine was modified to diesel with a heavy pan and head. It only has three main bearings and developed about 90 hp overpowering the mains and the select-o - speed transmission. Great small baler tractor.
Hey Dave, the blue and white 6000's are the best. The original 6000's were red and white and had their share of issues. The blue and white 6000's (Commanders) had most of the issues resolved. Also the Select-O-Speed at that point should be beefier than the earlier ones.
I believe The red tiger engine was the overhead valve engines in the hundred series Ford tractors from the 1950’s. The Ford Commander gas engine was the 223 six cylinder Ford engine they used in their trucks.
Just wanted to give you my two cents. First the Ford transmission you have is called a selecto-speed. My the time the 6000 commander came out, they had no issues with the transmission. The early ones back in the NAA series did have trans. issues. The motors were not a problem in the 6000, but the hydraulic system was the big issue. When they worked right, and held their pressure, the tractor could sit in the barn for several days, and you could pull the lever and lift a plow or cultivator off the ground with out starting it. The man that invented the trans. begged them not to produce it when they did. He said it needed fine tunning and the bugs worked out. The company said to bad, you need to have it ready, because we want to introduce it in our 50th.golden jubilee tractor, and thats the way it is, or hit the road. He said goodbye, and they ignored him, produced it and some problems, but had them worked out by the time the commander came out, which was built from 1964 to 1967. You are right, the early red 6000 were junk. They were so bad, that they offered a complete new tractor swap to the farmer, except he had to keep his tires for the new one. Oh and my the way, that same same man they let go, did get the bugs worked of his transmission, went to work for John Deere and was responsible for the 8 speed power shift in the 4020's that never had a issue, and was bullet proof.
Some guys sure are opinionated about a piece of machinery! I have an early 6000 gas, renumbered SN 140, I believe, that was rebuilt at the factory, one of approx 300 that Ford called back and totally dismantled and rebuilt before reshipping them to dealers. It's my understanding that the main problem with the first tractors is that they leaked like a sieve. They had some at the Ford experimental farm in Georgia and the Farm Manager made the guys move them off the concrete slab because they leaked so much. One has to remember that this is a tractor built 60 years ago and is quite rare, it's not one that someone is going to go out to the field and plow all day. I would take Richard up on his offer of parts. It is also missing some side panels but they are mostly straight sheet steel and not real hard to make. Although parts are getting harder and harder to find, the SOS transmission is really quite simple, similar to a Model T trans, and parts can be made for it. A great find for $150 IMHO!
I read where Howard Simpson, the inventor of the modern automatic in cars developed a six speed planetary for tractors but he couldn't get any manufacturer to license it. Perhaps Select O Speed is a reverse engineered Simpson transmission? He had worked for Ford but quit when he was diagnosed with a terminal illness, then he had his most productive years and lived 17 more years. Chrysler copied four of his patents for the first Torqueflite, they later agreed to pay license fees. That era was interesting as per power transmission.
Aumann Auctions sold a Ford 6000 Commander LP tractor with a narrow front-end....on 7/11/2015...It had 930 hours and was a runner...It sold for $4100.00 .. It was part of the Wampler tractor collection....l would post the link if l knew how to do it...It definitely is a unique piece.
I ran one for a few weeks for a neighbor when I was a kid. We borrowed it from time to time. Never had a problem with it. This one was a diesel. Dad said it was a ford 223 gas engine with a diesel head. It is my understanding that shifting it under load would damage the select o speed. I always just put in the gear I was going to use with the inching pedal.
Shifting on the go was find, except between "Ranges". 1-4 was low range, 5-8 was mid range, most field work, and 9-10 was high range. High range mainly for road use. Good Old Workhorse.
the sos trans was ok if precations were taken right oil keep up on adj they needed bigger oil cooler bands in it are the same as cruiseamatic fordc car trans they were a neat tractor for the day
Look here in north GA bud I see old rare tractor sometimes I've bought a few rare gems but the rarer they are the harder it is to find the parts you may need but I'm sure u know this if you fool around with the old ones lol good luck
Having grown up on the east coast, I would say there are even fewer ford tractors, in general, (although plenty of N series) in the upper midwest, than there are sitting around on the east coast. TONS of MM, Allis Chalmers, Farmall, and Oliver out here, not to mention Deere.
One of my Favorite Ford tractors included with that the 8000-9000s & 900 series. Really are underappreciated and had awful reviews... but good reasons for it. But at least the 8-9000 series tractors gave ford a Muscle tractor. At One time in 1971 or '72 They was planning on making a V8 Diesel Ford 9600 approx 150-180 hp using a Cat 3208.
I'd contact someone at the Henry Ford Museum at Greenfield Village in Dearborn for build information on that tractor. If anyone can help, they should be able to.
Henry Ford fired the guy that engineer that made that tractor. He told it was ready. That man whet to work for John Deere with the power shift. On 4020 and 3020
The story that was told by a SOS owner on Classic Tractor Fever was that the engineer/designer went on vacation and told Ford(Corp.) NOT to release the SOS tractors as the transmissions had not been perfected. Ford was in a big hurry to get those tractors out and someone didn’t pass the engineer’s message along and in the end it all turned out well for John Deere. I remember seeing posters of the Commanders on Hank Kimball’s office wall on Green Acres.
Harold Brock was the guys name he worked directly with Henry ford. He developed the 8n. ford at the time was in such a rush to get the 6000 on the assembly line they told Brock they were going to put it in production, but Brock warned it was not ready they did it anyway and it was a pos. After he left ford he went to Deere and was in charged of the 4020 design team. Machinery Pete interviewed him years ago and it was very interesting.
The transmission is not a hydro - only IH had them, and they were less efficient and used more fuel than the equivilent manual transmission. The SelectoSpeed, to give it its correct name, utilised a series of hydraulic clutches and band brakes to achieve the different gear ratio selections. I believe it was one Harold Brock, who was originally on the Product Engineering team at Ford, who came up with the change on the move gearbox during his time with the Company. He wanted to refine its operation more, as he wasn't happy with it, as was, but Ford Board Members over ruled him, and put the transmission on market anyway. In protest, Brock resigned and went and worked for John Deere instead, and was instrumental in developing their power shift transmission, which basically wiped the floor with the SelectoSpeed transmission. I would certainly agree that the Ford 6000 tractor, whether in its original grey and red, grey and blue or, in its final incarnation, all blue, was one sleek looking machine - very stylish and futuristic, no question. Ford 'management', in their rush to get it to market, were to blame for its failure. It was basically under developed, utilising a lot of new technology that hadn't been properly tested.
Red tiger engines were in the hundred series tractors not the 6000 commander. The transmission in all the commander's were called a select-o-speed. A ford 5000 with the 8 speed transmission is a far superior tractor in my opinion.
I know the only repair we ever had to do on the ford 5000 i used to run when i worked for a local farmer from the time i was 11 until the summer before my senior year right brfore i turned 18 and got a job workin on cars instead of farming with i do miss working in the dirr still to this day but thats besudes the point i know we had to put a battery in it one time and when i was around 14yrs old and i just rebuilt a starter for him about a year ago cause it funally gave out but other than that we ran that tractor pretty hard and it was a old tractor when i started working for him in 2005 pulling a plow and a rotor tiller for the garden and did a bunch of bushhogging as well and once fall came around we used the pto to run his huge plowboy enginnnered log splitter with a convarer belt that carried the split wood in to dump in a pin where he would scoop up with the skid steer and put in the big would barn in one of its sixs different pins depending on if ut was oak or hickory where he would dump the cut wood in until it was full and left to season for atleast a solid year but usely 2yrs before we would sale to the bbq stands to burn in there smokers and bbq pits the log splitter also had a convarer belt that fed the pre cut logs to the splitter to be busted and throrwn on to the other convarer belt to be hauled off to the cut off pin and that ford 5000 would get hooked up to the log splitter the first cool day of fall and run that splitter everyday until spring came around and it was time to prep for the garden it would run that log slpitter when i get home frome school until dark and on the days i didnt have school we would crank it and run it all day sometimes 9-11hrs a day and the only time we shut it off was during a lunch break so we didnt have to listen to it while we ate and took as short break from the noise and the only other issue i ever remember on that old ford 5000 was wiggling the high-low gear shifter back and fourth while holding the key in the crank position until it would fire up and run since the nuetrul saftey switch was jacked up or something it always cranked within a couple seconds of jiggling the h-l gear selector and thats how i was told to crank it when i was 11 and god only knows how many years it was already like that before i came along and is steal like that to this day 17yrs later and it steel needs a jiggle before the old work horse will fire up but the time i have on that 5000 and how hard i worked a saw it get worked and all the years before i came along of being worked hard i believe i have very good reasons to be bias torward the ford 5000 and i will have to stand by the ford 5000 from what ive seen they are dead ass reliable work hourses and i would own one over a 6000 just cause i know what a ford 5000 brings to the table i cant deny it but as far as conversation pieces go the fordd 6000 is a way more rare and will deffinetly always get more attention at a from the hobbiest collecters oldtimers and spectators they are definitely more of a conversation piece and for free too i wouldnt of pass it up either
The 223 six was a larger version of the 215 also used in Ford cars and trucks. They were efficient on fuel. When first used in 1952 the 215 produced more power than the '51 flathead v8 that wasn't replaced until 1954 - the same year the 215 was increased to 223 and called the the Mileage Maker. For '52 Ford had to find a way to make the flathead 8 produce more power than then new six, and it barely did so.
g,day guys what a gem, there would have been a few of these in the diesel models over here, A ? how come there were so many LPG farm tractors made ,tractors over here in Australia were mostly diesels or MFtea petrols agreat save cheers from down under ...
If that is factory propane, that is very rare. I suspect it is a add on. That is a 223 pickup engine. My dad had a 66 short narrow with one in it. It was tougher than rawhide. If you can't find parts for it, I think the 250 and 300 used the same bolt pattern. That select o speed has four sections of sun gears with bands that are hydraulic shifted. Pretty simple system compared to JD power shift. Like most power shifts operator error caused the most failures. That and dirty fluid by hooking up to every piece of equipment in the neighborhood with dirty oil in the cylinders. A JD power shift for a 30 series on up will knock the heck out of 1000 dollar bill, rebuilt or new. The old 20 series are almost as high.
Check out The Big Book of Ford Tractors.....the Ford Commander 6000 was made from 1965-1967 with diesel, gasoline and LPG power plants. Not sure on production numbers. I think you have a rare bird....
It seems like after 1952 all the tractors got cheaply made with either big transmission or motor problems. Pre 52 they where over built with some flaws in design but motors and transmission where good
Buddy flip that thing sell it to a collector or junk it dont make the mistake and go down that road Ford dealers wouldn't even trade for them you will regret every dollar you put in to that thing just like everyone before you just a little advice to help you
So you want to know what to do with it? Let me help you. Load it up and give it back to whomever you got it from . If it was a 5000 or a 7000 perhaps worth trying to restore But guys, it's just too far gone and it's the tractor that nearly put Ford out of the tractor business. Because it was so sharp looking on the outside it was an angel on the outside but a devil on the inside.
Were it me, Its not so much rare as it was a fuel thing... running inside buildings they went propane lots of times... unless your a glutton for punishment, go back to gas and be glad you did. It was dealer installed not factory to the best of my knowledge. I changed everyone of the ones I worked on just to have the original power as it cuts down power by ten to twenty percent on LP and I haven't ever had too much power in that size tractor. Propane has more expensive parts than any save money item I can come down to
Haha like u sead ford black eye the blue ones are ok for use the red ones will fall right on its face if worked like u sead best looking ford and worse ford ever built but hay if it was a case or jd they would of never recalled it jd and case would of called it where and tear
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Great find, my Uncle had the same tractor but narrow front end. My earliest memory is of my dad helping his uncle do feild work on that tractor
I have never seen one before. Very Nice & Amazing Find.
Dave. The hydrolic had a nitrogen charge tank for the quick lift to make up for the small pump. I had a 6000 years ago, put the rear tires on my Case 400. I still have the rear fenders, sterring wheel and gages off that 6000. You can have them if you come get them. Richard
Thanks for saving that tractor! 🇺🇸🚜👍
The transmission were called Select-O-Speed. Our Ford dealer had a red one with the narrow front end . They ordered it with a five bottom semi-mount plow. It was a cool tractor.
Awesome find. Doc will getter running. Love seeing these big iron machines brought back to life.
I had heard 156 propane’s where made. Always wanted one.
It's a great looking tractor. But my dad would have said "it;s a damn bubble-burner!' (propane)
The 6000 was much like the IHC 560, once the recall was completed they did well. We had one with the diesel motor, it had a M&W turbo on it and performed well, easy on fuel and plenty of power. Good advice not to power shift under full load as that is a good way to wear it out, just like the early IHC TA system, with a bit of operator fore sight they do last well enough, if abused they all will give issues. The designer did go over to Deere and developed their powershift trans, only Deere allowed him to do it his way, the rest is history as they say.
Neat! I agree with you, the early sixties blue and gray Ford paint scheme was one of their best. Hopefully Doc can get back together and we can see it run again.
Here is the biggest problem with the 6000 is that the diesel engine was a gas engine was modified to diesel with a heavy pan and head. It only has three main bearings and developed about 90 hp overpowering the mains and the select-o - speed transmission. Great small baler tractor.
Hey Dave, the blue and white 6000's are the best. The original 6000's were red and white and had their share of issues. The blue and white 6000's (Commanders) had most of the issues resolved. Also the Select-O-Speed at that point should be beefier than the earlier ones.
Rare as hens teeth. Never seen a propane Ford in person that is super bad ass
I love how you guys save the old timers to live again !!
The tires alone are worth a lot, aren't they? They look in great shape.
You two are like Schindler from Schindler's list but for tractors saving them before they get stuck in the salvage yard desk camp thank you
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I believe The red tiger engine was the overhead valve engines in the hundred series Ford tractors from the 1950’s. The Ford Commander gas engine was the 223 six cylinder Ford engine they used in their trucks.
The 1953 NAA what is the first Ford with the overhead valve red tiger engine. I'm pretty sure
@@tracey38999 it was. The Ford golden jubilee
Just wanted to give you my two cents. First the Ford transmission you have is called a selecto-speed. My the time the 6000 commander came out, they had no issues with the transmission. The early ones back in the NAA series did have trans. issues. The motors were not a problem in the 6000, but the hydraulic system was the big issue. When they worked right, and held their pressure, the tractor could sit in the barn for several days, and you could pull the lever and lift a plow or cultivator off the ground with out starting it. The man that invented the trans. begged them not to produce it when they did. He said it needed fine tunning and the bugs worked out. The company said to bad, you need to have it ready, because we want to introduce it in our 50th.golden jubilee tractor, and thats the way it is, or hit the road. He said goodbye, and they ignored him, produced it and some problems, but had them worked out by the time the commander came out, which was built from 1964 to 1967. You are right, the early red 6000 were junk. They were so bad, that they offered a complete new tractor swap to the farmer, except he had to keep his tires for the new one. Oh and my the way, that same same man they let go, did get the bugs worked of his transmission, went to work for John Deere and was responsible for the 8 speed power shift in the 4020's that never had a issue, and was bullet proof.
Great unloading video.....!!!
Some guys sure are opinionated about a piece of machinery! I have an early 6000 gas, renumbered SN 140, I believe, that was rebuilt at the factory, one of approx 300 that Ford called back and totally dismantled and rebuilt before reshipping them to dealers. It's my understanding that the main problem with the first tractors is that they leaked like a sieve. They had some at the Ford experimental farm in Georgia and the Farm Manager made the guys move them off the concrete slab because they leaked so much. One has to remember that this is a tractor built 60 years ago and is quite rare, it's not one that someone is going to go out to the field and plow all day. I would take Richard up on his offer of parts. It is also missing some side panels but they are mostly straight sheet steel and not real hard to make. Although parts are getting harder and harder to find, the SOS transmission is really quite simple, similar to a Model T trans, and parts can be made for it. A great find for $150 IMHO!
I read where Howard Simpson, the inventor of the modern automatic in cars developed a six speed planetary for tractors but he couldn't get any manufacturer to license it. Perhaps Select O Speed is a reverse engineered Simpson transmission? He had worked for Ford but quit when he was diagnosed with a terminal illness, then he had his most productive years and lived 17 more years. Chrysler copied four of his patents for the first Torqueflite, they later agreed to pay license fees. That era was interesting as per power transmission.
Cool find. I've never seen a Ford propane tractor
The problem with those is they were ahead of their time. They needed more time in testing stage.
If Hank Hill had a tractor...
Aumann Auctions sold a Ford 6000 Commander LP tractor with a narrow front-end....on 7/11/2015...It had 930 hours and was a runner...It sold for $4100.00 .. It was part of the Wampler tractor collection....l would post the link if l knew how to do it...It definitely is a unique piece.
Like two kids with a new toy!
Good luck!
I ran one for a few weeks for a neighbor when I was a kid. We borrowed it from time to time. Never had a problem with it. This one was a diesel. Dad said it was a ford 223 gas engine with a diesel head. It is my understanding that shifting it under load would damage the select o speed. I always just put in the gear I was going to use with the inching pedal.
Shifting on the go was find, except between "Ranges". 1-4 was low range, 5-8 was mid range, most field work, and 9-10 was high range. High range mainly for road use. Good Old Workhorse.
I've seen 2 of the propane ones, a handful of others. Where I came from they were not nearly as popular as the 4000.
Those are rare because they were garbage new and they didn’t last long. SOS are a nightmare to work on.
Best looking Ford tractor, the 8600 would like to have a word with you
That was awesome
the sos trans was ok if precations were taken right oil keep up on adj they needed bigger oil cooler bands in it are the same as cruiseamatic fordc car trans they were a neat tractor for the day
I love the rare stuff. Forgotten is my middle name. I'm east coast based - it's hard to find stuff out here.
You can still find stuff im in delawear
Look here in north GA bud I see old rare tractor sometimes I've bought a few rare gems but the rarer they are the harder it is to find the parts you may need but I'm sure u know this if you fool around with the old ones lol good luck
Having grown up on the east coast, I would say there are even fewer ford tractors, in general, (although plenty of N series) in the upper midwest, than there are sitting around on the east coast. TONS of MM, Allis Chalmers, Farmall, and Oliver out here, not to mention Deere.
Yes plenty of ns and some fords plenty of farmals and alis chalmers
Those oddball Fords are impossible to find parts for good luck finding parts for that engine
That's part of the fun of being a collector
Selector speeds were also called slip o matics
I was looking for a good picture of that tractor on the internet and I did find out that both the diesel and the LP engine had the displacement size.
One of my Favorite Ford tractors included with that the 8000-9000s & 900 series. Really are underappreciated and had awful reviews... but good reasons for it. But at least the 8-9000 series tractors gave ford a Muscle tractor. At One time in 1971 or '72 They was planning on making a V8 Diesel Ford 9600 approx 150-180 hp using a Cat 3208.
It looks kinda retro-futuristic.
I'd contact someone at the Henry Ford Museum at Greenfield Village in Dearborn for build information on that tractor. If anyone can help, they should be able to.
I say yes it would be worth it.
I don’t see many of them on Craigslist. Regardless of fuel type.
Henry Ford fired the guy that engineer that made that tractor. He told it was ready. That man whet to work for John Deere with the power shift. On 4020 and 3020
The story that was told by a SOS owner on Classic Tractor Fever was that the engineer/designer went on vacation and told Ford(Corp.) NOT to release the SOS tractors as the transmissions had not been perfected. Ford was in a big hurry to get those tractors out and someone didn’t pass the engineer’s message along and in the end it all turned out well for John Deere. I remember seeing posters of the Commanders on Hank Kimball’s office wall on Green Acres.
@@jameslester3861 I've been told a similar story as you just said and it sounds right lol
Harold Brock was the guys name he worked directly with Henry ford. He developed the 8n. ford at the time was in such a rush to get the 6000 on the assembly line they told Brock they were going to put it in production, but Brock warned it was not ready they did it anyway and it was a pos. After he left ford he went to Deere and was in charged of the 4020 design team. Machinery Pete interviewed him years ago and it was very interesting.
@@lesgobrandon but didn't they blame him for it being a pos? Even tho it was thier own fault not his?
Henry died in 1947, was Henry II running the company then?
The transmission is not a hydro - only IH had them, and they were less efficient and used more fuel than the equivilent manual transmission.
The SelectoSpeed, to give it its correct name, utilised a series of hydraulic clutches and band brakes to achieve the different gear ratio selections.
I believe it was one Harold Brock, who was originally on the Product Engineering team at Ford, who came up with the change on the move gearbox during his time with the Company. He wanted to refine its operation more, as he wasn't happy with it, as was, but Ford Board Members over ruled him, and put the transmission on market anyway. In protest, Brock resigned and went and worked for John Deere instead, and was instrumental in developing their power shift transmission, which basically wiped the floor with the SelectoSpeed transmission.
I would certainly agree that the Ford 6000 tractor, whether in its original grey and red, grey and blue or, in its final incarnation, all blue, was one sleek looking machine - very stylish and futuristic, no question. Ford 'management', in their rush to get it to market, were to blame for its failure. It was basically under developed, utilising a lot of new technology that hadn't been properly tested.
Red tiger engines were in the hundred series tractors not the 6000 commander. The transmission in all the commander's were called a select-o-speed. A ford 5000 with the 8 speed transmission is a far superior tractor in my opinion.
I know the only repair we ever had to do on the ford 5000 i used to run when i worked for a local farmer from the time i was 11 until the summer before my senior year right brfore i turned 18 and got a job workin on cars instead of farming with i do miss working in the dirr still to this day but thats besudes the point i know we had to put a battery in it one time and when i was around 14yrs old and i just rebuilt a starter for him about a year ago cause it funally gave out but other than that we ran that tractor pretty hard and it was a old tractor when i started working for him in 2005 pulling a plow and a rotor tiller for the garden and did a bunch of bushhogging as well and once fall came around we used the pto to run his huge plowboy enginnnered log splitter with a convarer belt that carried the split wood in to dump in a pin where he would scoop up with the skid steer and put in the big would barn in one of its sixs different pins depending on if ut was oak or hickory where he would dump the cut wood in until it was full and left to season for atleast a solid year but usely 2yrs before we would sale to the bbq stands to burn in there smokers and bbq pits the log splitter also had a convarer belt that fed the pre cut logs to the splitter to be busted and throrwn on to the other convarer belt to be hauled off to the cut off pin and that ford 5000 would get hooked up to the log splitter the first cool day of fall and run that splitter everyday until spring came around and it was time to prep for the garden it would run that log slpitter when i get home frome school until dark and on the days i didnt have school we would crank it and run it all day sometimes 9-11hrs a day and the only time we shut it off was during a lunch break so we didnt have to listen to it while we ate and took as short break from the noise and the only other issue i ever remember on that old ford 5000 was wiggling the high-low gear shifter back and fourth while holding the key in the crank position until it would fire up and run since the nuetrul saftey switch was jacked up or something it always cranked within a couple seconds of jiggling the h-l gear selector and thats how i was told to crank it when i was 11 and god only knows how many years it was already like that before i came along and is steal like that to this day 17yrs later and it steel needs a jiggle before the old work horse will fire up but the time i have on that 5000 and how hard i worked a saw it get worked and all the years before i came along of being worked hard i believe i have very good reasons to be bias torward the ford 5000 and i will have to stand by the ford 5000 from what ive seen they are dead ass reliable work hourses and i would own one over a 6000 just cause i know what a ford 5000 brings to the table i cant deny it but as far as conversation pieces go the fordd 6000 is a way more rare and will deffinetly always get more attention at a from the hobbiest collecters oldtimers and spectators they are definitely more of a conversation piece and for free too i wouldnt of pass it up either
The 223 six was a larger version of the 215 also used in Ford cars and trucks. They were efficient on fuel. When first used in 1952 the 215 produced more power than the '51 flathead v8 that wasn't replaced until 1954 - the same year the 215 was increased to 223 and called the the Mileage Maker. For '52 Ford had to find a way to make the flathead 8 produce more power than then new six, and it barely did so.
g,day guys what a gem, there would have been a few of these in the diesel models over here, A ? how come there were so many LPG farm tractors made ,tractors over here in Australia were mostly diesels or MFtea petrols agreat save cheers from down under ...
The thing is that I believe that the tractor came with a smaller tank.
If that is factory propane, that is very rare. I suspect it is a add on. That is a 223 pickup engine. My dad had a 66 short narrow with one in it. It was tougher than rawhide. If you can't find parts for it, I think the 250 and 300 used the same bolt pattern. That select o speed has four sections of sun gears with bands that are hydraulic shifted. Pretty simple system compared to JD power shift. Like most power shifts operator error caused the most failures. That and dirty fluid by hooking up to every piece of equipment in the neighborhood with dirty oil in the cylinders. A JD power shift for a 30 series on up will knock the heck out of 1000 dollar bill, rebuilt or new. The old 20 series are almost as high.
Yes it was built as a LP powered because of the hood
It would be hard to find a six truck engine from the sixties, but a 250 or 300 from seventies on should match up.
A 300 in an old tractor might be a good swap
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Hi Crazy D. I really like your channel and love old farmalls, Fords, olivers, and J.D.s. I also like old International P'ups. How about you?
The other thing is that the engine size is the same for both the diesel and the LP Engine
Check out The Big Book of Ford Tractors.....the Ford Commander 6000 was made from 1965-1967 with diesel, gasoline and LPG power plants. Not sure on production numbers. I think you have a rare bird....
Just a thought, but if you sped up the unloading footage and played Yakety Sax...I'd laugh for days😂
Is scoops fixed?
No scoops is not fixed
It seems like after 1952 all the tractors got cheaply made with either big transmission or motor problems. Pre 52 they where over built with some flaws in design but motors and transmission where good
That goes for about everything too the older stuff was made so much better..
Silas?
54 hp s?, think prefer my Super Major to this looks like no engine in it.
The transmission was called " JERK-A-MATIC" by the mechanics at our Ford dealership. The complete tractor is junk. Junk when new, and junk now.
It sure was, scrap tractor one of Fords worst. Ugly tractor, with many problems.
Buddy flip that thing sell it to a collector or junk it dont make the mistake and go down that road Ford dealers wouldn't even trade for them you will regret every dollar you put in to that thing just like everyone before you just a little advice to help you
So you want to know what to do with it? Let me help you. Load it up and give it back to whomever you got it from . If it was a 5000 or a 7000 perhaps worth trying to restore But guys, it's just too far gone and it's the tractor that nearly put Ford out of the tractor business. Because it was so sharp looking on the outside it was an angel on the outside but a devil on the inside.
Were it me, Its not so much rare as it was a fuel thing... running inside buildings they went propane lots of times... unless your a glutton for punishment, go back to gas and be glad you did. It was dealer installed not factory to the best of my knowledge. I changed everyone of the ones I worked on just to have the original power as it cuts down power by ten to twenty percent on LP and I haven't ever had too much power in that size tractor. Propane has more expensive parts than any save money item I can come down to
Not a ford man! Ask my about all the 2cylinder John Deeres!!
He told Ford it was ready to be sold
Ford 6000 had a very bad name in Australia, absolute rubbish
Haha like u sead ford black eye the blue ones are ok for use the red ones will fall right on its face if worked like u sead best looking ford and worse ford ever built but hay if it was a case or jd they would of never recalled it jd and case would of called it where and tear
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Looks like a short stroke motor. You'll need to be able to shift down often under load.