Therm-a-Rest Valves: WingLock™ and TwinLock™ Valve Overview

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  • @dablyputs
    @dablyputs 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This new valve will save humanity.

  • @Filte
    @Filte 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sorry but there is nothing better at the moment than the valves EXPED uses on their mats. They dont protrude and make inflation way faster than this valve.

    • @milesb4231
      @milesb4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the tip.

    • @Filte
      @Filte 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@milesb4231no problem ;) I'm using a sea to summit mat now, their valve is similar to exped and nemo.

  • @larrym2434
    @larrym2434 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But who remembers the metal valves? Are those called the pre-classic?

  • @melindalemmon2149
    @melindalemmon2149 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought it sucked in the air as a self-infllater. What am I missing here?
    My mondoking just arrive, valve arrived opened and pad is not visibly inflating.

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Melinda, We are sorry for the inconvenience! Did you order the MondoKing 3D Sleeping Pad - Classic Valve, or the MondoKing 3D Sleeping Pad - TwinLock Valve?

  • @milesb4231
    @milesb4231 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    No backwards compatibility of your inflation bags with pads purchased just two years ago is a kick in the teeth. Time to move my family and friends to another brand.

    • @Mysteria9
      @Mysteria9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Over an inflation bag, really? 😂

  • @ondrej_kraus
    @ondrej_kraus 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Will this replace valves on all current pad series ?

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there!
      Unfortunately no. WingLock™ or TwinLock™ Valves cannot be installed on products that originally
      included a Classic Therm-a-Rest Valve.
      Best,
      Olivia

    • @jariperho
      @jariperho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThermaRest That's quite unfortunate. The pad and valve port don't look much different, so it definitively should have been compatible with older pads. I would have ordered 3 already for upgrades.

  • @ariahrendt6166
    @ariahrendt6166 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Therm-a-Rest team, I read about the new 2020 lineup with winglock. You say it is 2 or 3 times faster to blow up. Can you tell me why? I mean air is air and lunges are lunges.

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Ari!
      Great question! The WingLock valve has a larger valve opening and one-way inflation which allows the pad to inflate three times faster than our classic valve.
      Best,
      Olivia

    • @otisobl
      @otisobl 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just get a three times bigger lung, man.

  • @jonnytentpeg
    @jonnytentpeg 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hang on a minute guys...did you just say if you use your breath to blow it up it causes no harm to the inside of the mat I hope you are saying that because that would be amazing time and time again we're told not to do this but everything else instead off using your breath seems to be a bit of a ball ache...did your research definitely show this? I'd be power happy if it did dudes😀👍...oh yeah I'm on your channel because I've just purchased a neoair xtherm max atb 😀👍

  • @thejeffinvade
    @thejeffinvade 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a neoair all season with a classic valve, another new xlite with a winglock valve, is there one electric pump that can fit both of them?

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there, good question. We do not currently have an electric pump that fits both.

    • @thejeffinvade
      @thejeffinvade 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThermaRest On your website for "NeoAir® Mini Pump", it says "Fits any NeoAir mattress valve." So its rubber nozzle only fits classic valve, not the new ones such as winglock?

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jeff. The Mini Pump was released before we updated our mattresses with the TwinLock and WingLock valves, so it is only compatible with the classic valve. For the WingLock and TwinLock valves, we have the NeoAir Micro Pump (www.thermarest.com/sleeping-pads/sleeping-pad-accessories/neoair-micro-pump/13227.html).

  • @stevef8945
    @stevef8945 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When will the WingLock valve Xlite be available to purchase in the UK?

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Steve,
      Pads with the new valves should be available internationally February 2020!
      Best,
      Olivia

  • @TrailHunger
    @TrailHunger 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    when will the new pads with winglock/twinlock be available?

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Rod,
      Select models are available now while others will be slowly added to inventory over the next month or so!
      Best,
      Olivia

  • @MichaelMoscicki
    @MichaelMoscicki 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    If one recently purchased the classic NeoAir XLite, would it be worthwhile to return it and get the new NeoAir XLite with the WingLock valve?

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Michael,
      That is entirely up to you. Both versions of the valve work perfectly and will allow you to rest better on all the adventures you go on.
      Best,
      Olivia

    • @MichaelMoscicki
      @MichaelMoscicki 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThermaRest Is the increase in R-Value of 3.2 to 4.2 on the XLite and similar increases on other pads related to the new ASTM standard FF3340-18 or is the updated XLite actually more thermal resistant(warmer)?

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Michael,
      The new standard uses a different test protocol and device, which means all of our pads will be receiving new R-value ratings. Our gear’s R-value ratings won’t change significantly, but there will be certain trends. For example, many of our NeoAir mattresses will receive higher R-values under the new testing standards.
      Hope this clarifies things,
      Olivia

    • @MichaelMoscicki
      @MichaelMoscicki 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThermaRest So If I understood it correctly, the classic and updated NeoAir pads are the same as far as R-Value.

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MichaelMoscicki They are the same pad as far as their thermal retention goes, but the stated R-value will slightly change.

  • @GermanBadGuy
    @GermanBadGuy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the weight difference from the wing lock over the classic valve?

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi there,
      The WingLock is 11 grams heavier than the Classic Valve.
      Best,

  • @jakobfischer5370
    @jakobfischer5370 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    does the winglock valve also prevents air from reentering the sleeping pad when using deflation mode? Like the Twinlock oneway valve?

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Jakob,
      Correct! The WingLock valve also has one way deflation similar to the TwinLock valve.

    • @bedaka79
      @bedaka79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No it doesn't. The comment by thermarest is wrong.
      I bought the mattress and thought it was defective but after being in contact with the thermarest support they verified the deflation is twoway only inflation is one-way.

    • @elliotdavies3555
      @elliotdavies3555 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bedaka79 I can confirm this too. It really makes deflation unnecessarily difficult.

  • @pgreenx
    @pgreenx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What does 3 times faster mean (less breaths or same # of breaths but faster time)?
    It's the number of breathes that's the issue for most
    And what's your response to this
    th-cam.com/video/eGjRV0pMMYw/w-d-xo.html

    • @ThermaRest
      @ThermaRest  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi!
      What we mean by 3x faster is that the WingLock and TwinLock valves have larger valve openings as well as one-way inflation which allows the pad to inflate three times faster than our classic valve.
      Additionally, with regards to that youtube video you sited, we responded to Bungzy and explained the science behind the claim!
      Best,
      Olivia

  • @keagansmith9776
    @keagansmith9776 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    First