Col, speaking of having a 8month old, me having a 13 m/o, i made a habit of calculating all spending in diapers and Formula Milks LOL !! Oh 10 shards can get me 2 packs of Diapers and 10 Formula cans !! haha
I am a spender. I am what's considered a "dolphin" meaning over the years my total amount spent is between $2-4,000 in the span of my account's life. I watch you and Colred because as high end F2P players, you demonstrate strategies and methods i can apply to my account that will save me money. I spend because I enjoy the game, I'm paying for entertainment, but you both have great tips and methods I can use that will allow me to progress for free where I otherwise would've gotten frustrated and spent money. You and Colred both offer great insight and information that will help players of all types. Anyone from F2P all the way to people like me and even to whales. In the end, I don't mind spending but if you teach me something that saves me money then that's going to let me spend on other things
I'm in the same boat. less spent but the same. I spend a bit for the entertainment. I really appreciate these. I don't have unkillables comps or o.p. teams but I'm done with all base dungeons and almost done with FW
enjoyed listening to you guys talk about various topics! have to agree: if you want to spend, spending on stuff that gives you a specific return is usually the best approach. currency packs & battle passes (in other games). keeps you engaged in logging in for 30 days + extra resources to spend where you want to (masteries fo exmaple to save time there w/o grinding mino).
I was free to play until i got to unm clan boss and level 25 for all normal dungeons. Now I just get the gem pack only. I recommend that. It's a big relief to get masteries and complete things if you just started playing in the last year and now you will continue and want to save time. This game is a time sink
The other reason to go for gem pack is that they don't inflate the price each month. Like Colred, I like to "pay the developers" for games that I like. When I felt I was going to be playing more than a couple months, I bought the "monthly pack" for 29.99. It seemed comparable to season passes of other games, just a bit more expensive. The next month the "Monthly pass" had more shards but was $49.99. I was legit shocked and did not buy it. I believe it goes up to $99.99 and stays there. Almost every mix pack/monthly pack does the same thing, and it takes several months for it to reset to normal. The gem pack stays 9.99. I did that for a few months, became frustrated with the P2W aspect and stopped "paying the developers". They got a chunk from me, roughly what I would have paid for a complete console game, so I won't give another penny.
10:07 he did have a FTP mini account so he can do it but not sure if it's sustainable after a long period as spender, he may still do a mini but converting his main to ftp will be a very big challenge
As I said on Colreds channel just recently - 2 of my favorite CCs in RSL in one package! Thank you for your very knowlegeable and helpful + fun content guys!
I was tempted for He-man. Nostalgia almost won me over but I stuck to my f2p ways. I'm about 2.25 years in and I would like to think I'm near end game. Haven't always been grinding hard the whole time, but I'm pretty focused on achieving goals. I like the challenge free to play but my gambling addiction says it's risky to spend as if I start I may not stop
As a moderate spender, it's honestly due to a lack of patience. There's definitely champions, especially for Live Arena, that i wish I had, but I stay within my budget, and it's all good.
@matto9734 Yeah. I can get into platinum arena, but I don't always finish the week there. I stay in G5 pretty easily. I just got into live arena when they made it part of the missions. I cruised through pretty easily, but as soon as I hit Sulver 4 it's been much harder. Even as and end game played lvl 100, I still don't have the speed some of these others do. It's a speed meta now and anything under 400 isn't fast enough to guarantee to go first.
I guess majority of spenders does not pay for fun in gacha games but rather to catch up or overcome others. Money gives them just a fast and sneaky way to achieve it. Pure rivalry.
If a big spender wants to become f2p, they have to learn patience and play "Wait Shadow Legends". As they won't get results at once, they won't get their usual dopamine shot and it might seem very frustrating.
I don't understand the hate for shard pull videos. I love when they pull a non-mainstream champion and talk about them. I'm F2P and seeing some of my "lesser" champions discussed and suggested as options to replace top champs during a shard pull helps me assess my account and find solutions to problems I'm facing. These lesser champs would never have their own dedicated video. my 2 cents.
pretty good thing for value is gem pack, those gear passes, maybe the energy daily pack (only bought this once maybe) I never buy shards normally but would consider if i was missing some if close to getting some guaranteed lego event
I’m f2p but I think my most challenging part about being f2p is not always having enough energy to just grind the game out which is really bothersome for me
I appreciate the f2p grind. It's a fun challenge. But if you can spend a little money to get you away from the game and have more time with family and friends, you should do it. I'm a father, and a grandfather, whos been playing video games for 42 years. Games, even if they are your main income, should ALWAYS come second to family and friends. Time is the most precious resource you have. It can't be replaced with any amount of money. People can be gone in an instant. Games come and go. Make the right choice. Thanks for the vid! See you in the next one!
Hardest part for me is to watch shard pull videos and seeing the good champs getting pulled and then I rage spend till Im broke or satisfied with a pull! Its a vicious circle!
Ash did create a F2P account in 2022 call Vex Thal. He did not get too far on it, but did use it occasionally to show off new player ideas and play with common, uncommons rares, etc. He pulled it up pretty recently, so I would be curious to see him revive that, lol. Note: I HATE whale shard pull videos. I did like that Ash donated 1000's, but it really isn't that interesting to watch whales pull stuff you may never get.
I stopped spending when udk was a login I think until 5 to 6 weeks ago .spent over 2,000 dollars or more in about month two 6 weeks. I still haven't gotten him ,lol . That's life . 😂
I run 23 accounts and have no problem spending 5-10 quid every 2 or 3 months. I spent a bit more over Xmas (20 pounds but I got critical items like lego books which are hard to come by) but given I play the game 24/7 for 5 years I don't mind helping out the whales who are paying for my game time.
@@BoozorTV I always win siege battles as I am in control of tactics, but thinking I will retire all my accounts but main for 2025. Any recommendations for a clan to join?
FOMO becomes contentment if you just look at your roster and see if there's any champ you wish to improve. Grind gears, farm masteries and finish cursed city.
Lets no spend in January but stack up twice as much on December with all the juicy offers they add lol?! Most of us are dry anyway after Christmas its an easy thing to do.
I’ll say a few things and try not to ramble. 1. You two are great, great colab. 2. Spending a little money gets you absolutely nowhere in Raid, which is sad. I have 2 accts, one f2p and one low spend, monthly gem pack and occasional Black Friday/xmas gift to myself. Both accts are nearly identical. So the one with $500+ invested can’t do any content the free one can’t. Both all hard 10 dungeons, nightmare hydra, etc. so if you’re thinking of spending and thing it’s just a hundred bucks or whatever, it with seriously get you no where. There are free champs and fusions to complete every area of the game.
I think hoping things will be better under new management is wishful thinking. No one is spending 600 million on a company with the expectation of making less money.
i'm surprised to hear a CC that gets stuff from raid is lacking books im a low spender and def have more champs that the bald dude but never have problems with booking legos I usually end up having to use them to get points for cvc or even training nowadays
I think everybody is missing the point. If you have been playing a long time like Boozor then you can be FTP because you evolved with the game. It was a lot easier to get champs with a limited roster. The game has been power crept so hard that anybody that’s under 2 years or just starting as a FTP will never get to endgame. It will take like 2 years plus just to build a hydra team and that’s just for like brutal or lower. That’s why when HH announced the new FTP challenge, I just laughed.. Good luck with that! Far as spending goes. You should spend your money where you spend your time but you shouldn’t be spending more money than your phone bill every month. If you guys knew how to invest in stocks then you would be rich with all the money you put into this game. I stopped spending because of the way they are handling the game. Only way for me to spend again is to revert hydra buff and fix the taunt nerf. Also revert Wixwell back to how it was. None of that affected anything that’s going on. The only thing they did was cut out midgame players and my middle finger is up to them for that.
'profit mode' just means they'll get more money from existing players compared to newer players this isn't anything new tho if you've played any other game that's lasted years, you'd see similar powercreep things like souls, blessings, mystical gear etc
I disagree about the Forge Pass. I have seen many CC's Craft their gear and get ONE useable piece, or maybe with a handful to complete a set (like Bolster). You can get nothing useable from the Forge Pass for 20.00. I don't think that is a "known quantity".
Which cc are you talking about? Maybe they only hit 1 useful pc for their account since they are so advanced ? If you're new to the game and you get 200 5/6* pcs of epic/legendary gear to roll I'd say the odds you hit something usable is high.
i also dont see why people complain about progressive 15x every game has some 'banner' with heroes/champs on constant rotation if anything raid SHOULD be having more not interested? just ignore it like i do
the bigger issue imo is how 15x and even up to 25x means nothing in raid, not even 10 percent at a lego for void it's better but you have to spend so much on voids
I was once tempted to spend in RAID. I was missing 5 Tokens to get a 5 star Soul of an Titan Event and hoped on a pack offer from Plarium, but Plarium did not offer me a pack. So I stayed F2P.
Hey Boozor! Thanks for having me on the channel. I ALWAYS enjoy talking RAID and F2P life with you, my friend. Let's do it again soon!
Great info from both of you! Go watch Colred's breakdown on the Plarium sale if you found this discussion interesting.
Col, speaking of having a 8month old, me having a 13 m/o, i made a habit of calculating all spending in diapers and Formula Milks LOL !! Oh 10 shards can get me 2 packs of Diapers and 10 Formula cans !! haha
I am a spender. I am what's considered a "dolphin" meaning over the years my total amount spent is between $2-4,000 in the span of my account's life.
I watch you and Colred because as high end F2P players, you demonstrate strategies and methods i can apply to my account that will save me money.
I spend because I enjoy the game, I'm paying for entertainment, but you both have great tips and methods I can use that will allow me to progress for free where I otherwise would've gotten frustrated and spent money.
You and Colred both offer great insight and information that will help players of all types. Anyone from F2P all the way to people like me and even to whales.
In the end, I don't mind spending but if you teach me something that saves me money then that's going to let me spend on other things
I'm in the same boat. less spent but the same. I spend a bit for the entertainment. I really appreciate these. I don't have unkillables comps or o.p. teams but I'm done with all base dungeons and almost done with FW
enjoyed listening to you guys talk about various topics! have to agree: if you want to spend, spending on stuff that gives you a specific return is usually the best approach. currency packs & battle passes (in other games). keeps you engaged in logging in for 30 days + extra resources to spend where you want to (masteries fo exmaple to save time there w/o grinding mino).
I was free to play until i got to unm clan boss and level 25 for all normal dungeons. Now I just get the gem pack only. I recommend that. It's a big relief to get masteries and complete things if you just started playing in the last year and now you will continue and want to save time. This game is a time sink
The other reason to go for gem pack is that they don't inflate the price each month. Like Colred, I like to "pay the developers" for games that I like. When I felt I was going to be playing more than a couple months, I bought the "monthly pack" for 29.99. It seemed comparable to season passes of other games, just a bit more expensive. The next month the "Monthly pass" had more shards but was $49.99. I was legit shocked and did not buy it. I believe it goes up to $99.99 and stays there. Almost every mix pack/monthly pack does the same thing, and it takes several months for it to reset to normal. The gem pack stays 9.99. I did that for a few months, became frustrated with the P2W aspect and stopped "paying the developers". They got a chunk from me, roughly what I would have paid for a complete console game, so I won't give another penny.
10:07 he did have a FTP mini account so he can do it but not sure if it's sustainable after a long period as spender, he may still do a mini but converting his main to ftp will be a very big challenge
As I said on Colreds channel just recently - 2 of my favorite CCs in RSL in one package! Thank you for your very knowlegeable and helpful + fun content guys!
I was tempted for He-man. Nostalgia almost won me over but I stuck to my f2p ways. I'm about 2.25 years in and I would like to think I'm near end game. Haven't always been grinding hard the whole time, but I'm pretty focused on achieving goals. I like the challenge free to play but my gambling addiction says it's risky to spend as if I start I may not stop
Yeah you right don't spend if you know its hard to regulate it, got He-man he is beast!
Great video guys ,I'm f2p and both helped me a lot whith yours videos ,thanks for your content
As a moderate spender, it's honestly due to a lack of patience. There's definitely champions, especially for Live Arena, that i wish I had, but I stay within my budget, and it's all good.
Same here, the frustration factor is really high in Arena and Live Arena ;-) (low/moderate spender too, lvl 59 account)
@matto9734 Yeah. I can get into platinum arena, but I don't always finish the week there. I stay in G5 pretty easily. I just got into live arena when they made it part of the missions. I cruised through pretty easily, but as soon as I hit Sulver 4 it's been much harder. Even as and end game played lvl 100, I still don't have the speed some of these others do. It's a speed meta now and anything under 400 isn't fast enough to guarantee to go first.
Great collab guys, always looking forward to watching your content.
Hey Boozer great job 👍. I am FTP from the beginning of Raid. It's a lot harder to play but it makes it interesting.keep up the great work.
I guess majority of spenders does not pay for fun in gacha games but rather to catch up or overcome others. Money gives them just a fast and sneaky way to achieve it. Pure rivalry.
Kudos man. Both legendary F2P players
If a big spender wants to become f2p, they have to learn patience and play "Wait Shadow Legends". As they won't get results at once, they won't get their usual dopamine shot and it might seem very frustrating.
8:43 “having a bad day”, as a light spender, that’s when I blow up my budget and now attempting to switch to a f2p experience
I don't understand the hate for shard pull videos. I love when they pull a non-mainstream champion and talk about them. I'm F2P and seeing some of my "lesser" champions discussed and suggested as options to replace top champs during a shard pull helps me assess my account and find solutions to problems I'm facing. These lesser champs would never have their own dedicated video. my 2 cents.
Good points !
pretty good thing for value is gem pack, those gear passes, maybe the energy daily pack (only bought this once maybe)
I never buy shards normally but would consider if i was missing some if close to getting some guaranteed lego event
🎉🎉🎉🎉 Starting off 2025 the right way!! Great collab here!! 💯
I’m f2p but I think my most challenging part about being f2p is not always having enough energy to just grind the game out which is really bothersome for me
I appreciate the f2p grind. It's a fun challenge. But if you can spend a little money to get you away from the game and have more time with family and friends, you should do it. I'm a father, and a grandfather, whos been playing video games for 42 years. Games, even if they are your main income, should ALWAYS come second to family and friends. Time is the most precious resource you have. It can't be replaced with any amount of money. People can be gone in an instant. Games come and go. Make the right choice. Thanks for the vid! See you in the next one!
Hardest part for me is to watch shard pull videos and seeing the good champs getting pulled and then I rage spend till Im broke or satisfied with a pull! Its a vicious circle!
Fair. Big part of the game is pulling shards unfortunately.
Easy solution. Don't watch pull videos.
Ash did create a F2P account in 2022 call Vex Thal. He did not get too far on it, but did use it occasionally to show off new player ideas and play with common, uncommons rares, etc. He pulled it up pretty recently, so I would be curious to see him revive that, lol. Note: I HATE whale shard pull videos. I did like that Ash donated 1000's, but it really isn't that interesting to watch whales pull stuff you may never get.
F2P does not mean playing with Uncommons and Rares, that's what Ash didn't understand. And he was so surprised when he discovered Boozor 😀
Sometimes the whale shard pull videos when they miss or don't get anything good, allow me to re-affirm why I don't spend when I am tempted
didnt even know coldbrew was even still playing
He's on long term vacation I think. Living it up
I had a flash offer for 6k energy during a fusion. Could not resist
@Boozer Are you doing the HH FTP Series?? It would be super cool to see your progress!!
unfortunately not - can't commit the time to this :(
I stopped spending when udk was a login I think until 5 to 6 weeks ago .spent over 2,000 dollars or more in about month two 6 weeks. I still haven't gotten him ,lol . That's life .
😂
I run 23 accounts and have no problem spending 5-10 quid every 2 or 3 months. I spent a bit more over Xmas (20 pounds but I got critical items like lego books which are hard to come by) but given I play the game 24/7 for 5 years I don't mind helping out the whales who are paying for my game time.
Crazy !
@@BoozorTV I always win siege battles as I am in control of tactics, but thinking I will retire all my accounts but main for 2025. Any recommendations for a clan to join?
FOMO becomes contentment if you just look at your roster and see if there's any champ you wish to improve. Grind gears, farm masteries and finish cursed city.
I apply ftp tactics taught by you both to lower my need to buy to progress
Lets no spend in January but stack up twice as much on December with all the juicy offers they add lol?! Most of us are dry anyway after Christmas its an easy thing to do.
I’ll say a few things and try not to ramble. 1. You two are great, great colab. 2. Spending a little money gets you absolutely nowhere in Raid, which is sad. I have 2 accts, one f2p and one low spend, monthly gem pack and occasional Black Friday/xmas gift to myself. Both accts are nearly identical. So the one with $500+ invested can’t do any content the free one can’t. Both all hard 10 dungeons, nightmare hydra, etc. so if you’re thinking of spending and thing it’s just a hundred bucks or whatever, it with seriously get you no where. There are free champs and fusions to complete every area of the game.
Your auto Chimera doesn’t work 😢
it works - but it will take many tries as i mentioned in video
I think hoping things will be better under new management is wishful thinking. No one is spending 600 million on a company with the expectation of making less money.
i'm surprised to hear a CC that gets stuff from raid is lacking books
im a low spender and def have more champs that the bald dude but never have problems with booking legos
I usually end up having to use them to get points for cvc or even training nowadays
forgot to say never bought books
colred isn't part of official creator program
@@BoozorTV wait what....
Ya it's wild
@@BoozorTVit’s criminal he’s videos are super knowledgeable
I think everybody is missing the point. If you have been playing a long time like Boozor then you can be FTP because you evolved with the game. It was a lot easier to get champs with a limited roster. The game has been power crept so hard that anybody that’s under 2 years or just starting as a FTP will never get to endgame. It will take like 2 years plus just to build a hydra team and that’s just for like brutal or lower. That’s why when HH announced the new FTP challenge, I just laughed.. Good luck with that! Far as spending goes. You should spend your money where you spend your time but you shouldn’t be spending more money than your phone bill every month. If you guys knew how to invest in stocks then you would be rich with all the money you put into this game. I stopped spending because of the way they are handling the game. Only way for me to spend again is to revert hydra buff and fix the taunt nerf. Also revert Wixwell back to how it was. None of that affected anything that’s going on. The only thing they did was cut out midgame players and my middle finger is up to them for that.
Hey Boozer, Boozer, Boozer!
This is where you respond with an annoyed voice “what is it”?
And I respond back, I’m free to play by the way ;)
'profit mode' just means they'll get more money from existing players compared to newer players
this isn't anything new tho
if you've played any other game that's lasted years, you'd see similar powercreep things like souls, blessings, mystical gear etc
10:05 HE DID th-cam.com/video/HbamAnbNVGw/w-d-xo.html
Are we talking part time free to play account or full time for life never spending?
I disagree about the Forge Pass. I have seen many CC's Craft their gear and get ONE useable piece, or maybe with a handful to complete a set (like Bolster). You can get nothing useable from the Forge Pass for 20.00. I don't think that is a "known quantity".
Which cc are you talking about? Maybe they only hit 1 useful pc for their account since they are so advanced ? If you're new to the game and you get 200 5/6* pcs of epic/legendary gear to roll I'd say the odds you hit something usable is high.
7:22 basically Ash with his F2p account 😂 He's a whale, he can't do it.
Edit: Yep. these guy know what they're talking about.
The fact that you say $50 a month is not really spending really should make you take a step back and realize what you just said.
poe is about $ 30 lol
If you spend an hour/day playing raid, that is about $1.70 per hour of entertainment/fun. That is pretty dang cheap.
I compare it to entertainment. There's cheaper and way more expensive forms of entertainment.
@@thabangkebinatau what poe2 ONE time purchase has anything to do with a MONTHLY payments ? ....
i also dont see why people complain about progressive 15x
every game has some 'banner' with heroes/champs on constant rotation
if anything raid SHOULD be having more
not interested? just ignore it like i do
the bigger issue imo is how 15x and even up to 25x means nothing in raid, not even 10 percent at a lego
for void it's better but you have to spend so much on voids
At least raid use same ordinary shards for those x15. Not like new games, which have normal "shards" and have special "shards" for special events.
That boss is hard
If you spend more than 8 or more hours a day on this game, you are STILL A SPENDER. Money is not the only factor!
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F2$\hrP spender lol
I was once tempted to spend in RAID. I was missing 5 Tokens to get a 5 star Soul of an Titan Event and hoped on a pack offer from Plarium, but Plarium did not offer me a pack. So I stayed F2P.