Some wonderful lines from the book: Other Mother: I swear it on my mother's grave. Coraline: Does she even have a grave? Other Mother: Oh yes. I put her in there myself. And when I found her trying to crawl out I put her back in it.
"You know I love you, Coraline." Despite herself, Coraline nodded. It was true, The Other Mother loved her. But she loved her like a miser loved money or a dragon loved its gold. In the Other Mother's button eyes, Coraline was a possession, nothing more. A tolerated pet whose behavior was no longer amusing.
It seemed to Coraline that the house was crouching, and staring down at her, as if it were not really a house but only the idea of a house - and the person who had had the idea, she was certain, was not a good person.
I always loved the paragraph when she steps into the door for the first time, "It opened on to a dark hallway. The bricks had gone as if they'd never been there. There was a cold, musty smell coming through the open doorway: it smelled like something very old and very slow." But I especially love when she leaves the other house, "Coraline took a deep breath and stepped into the darkness, where strange voices whispered and distant winds howled. She became certain that there was something in the dark behind her: something very old and very slow. Her heart beat so hard and so loudly she was scared it would burst out of her chest. She closed her eyes against the dark."
this just convinced me to read the book too because i never read it since i saw the movie first (and I was 7 when it came out) and I thought it wouldn’t be fun to read if I already know the story but those lines you quoted sounded awesome and worth reading
@@airallamanzares7385the story was by tim and micheal McDowell. Why isn’t he getting a mention? Nightmare before Christmas is a Henry selic movie and I won’t accept anything else bc I really dislike tim.
Thanks for commenting this, Tim Burton tends to get alot of credit for movies that he had little to no hand in. My man Henry Selick never gets enough credit.
Interesting tidbit about the man who lives upstairs though, apparently the medal he wears is a liquidation medal - which is a medal gifted to ones who helped with clean up efforts in Chernobyl. Which is why he's blue, its from radiation posioning. And something that helps radiation poisoning is beet root, which is what he eats. So the man upstairs is actually a Chernobyl survivor.
I think an important detail with the Coraline's mom's attitude is that they were just in a car accident, and she's in a neck brace--not only are they stressed from lack of money, she's also probably in a decent amount of pain. It's not an excuse for her being so snippy with Coraline, but in the end I feel like it's a great depiction of flawed but very human adults and how that makes the ultra-devoted perfection of the Other Parents so tempting in comparison.
that's very true, she's injured and under stress of work, and they just moved, yeah she shouldn't be so rude but my mom works at home often and wants to be left alone while she works when she's under stress
Fair, but the movie itself doesn't point that out so it's also fair that viewers aren't connecting to the dots on that :/ which sucks because it does explain alot about the mother's harshness
I absolutely love how Coraline's parents are written in this movie. They're a realistic portrayal of what overworked parents going through a stressful time are like: they're curt and exasperated when talking with Coraline, but they still maintain a level of care and empathy for her. On the complete opposite end of that spectrum, the Other Mother is a character that only becomes creepier as you get older. She love bombs Coraline from the moment they meet, and she never shows any emotion other than unnatural cheeriness until she fails to pressure Coraline to do something that she's not comfortable with. I think this movie is incredibly important to show to young kids, despite how many nightmares it'll give them. It tells them two important things: - Your parents are people just like everyone else and, although their stress might get the better of them sometimes, they still love you. - Be wary of people who constantly give you everything you want. If something seems too good to be true, then it probably is.
I agree, but I'd say not TOO young kids. You don't want to scar them for life, and they wouldn't understand the message you want them to get from this movie anyway (only DOLLS! SPIDER! BUTTON EYES! BUGS! EVERYTHING IS SCARY CAN'T SLEEP!!! XD). So I'd say wait for them to be at least... 10 years old maybe?
@@leovk5779 I mean, yea a child would need a certain maturity to get the message but also slapping an age on it won't help much since some children will be able to deal with scary movies way better than others.
I’m glad there are other people here who recognize and are sharing the knowledge that Henry Selick is the director behind this film. Credit to him and Laika Studios. Tim Burton unfortunately gets credit for his films from people, even when he had zero involvement in the movie. Selick barely even gets credit for Nightmare Before Christmas when he directed it.
@@ma.2089 tim burton wasn't the one who decided to put his name on it. disney did, he never had a say in it. and to be fair tim burton did a lot more than just 'produce' the movie. we wouldn't have had that movie if it wasn't for him. all henry did was direct it where it's tim's story, characters, he produced the movie, etc. it's totally a tim burton movie
One reason the Other Mother comes on so strong and creepy is that she’s starving. Her last victim was the sweet Ghost Girl who was the sister of Grandma Wyborne. After her sister disappeared she locked up the door l, subdivided the home, and refused to let anyone who had kids rent the apartments-until maybe she got a bit senile or made a mistake with Coraline’s family. The Other Mother probably usually waits weeks before offering the button eyes but based on the age of the house and the images of the ghosts, she was likely overdue for a meal and jumped the gun too early.
its also theorized that wybies grandma made an exception for coraline and let her family move in because she was hoping that the bedlam would be too focused on coraline to target wybie so it was a really messed up way of trying to protect him
A theory I saw that made sense was that either the parents, in their hurry to move, "forgot" to mention they had a kid, or the grandma thought "fuck it, it's been half a century, whatever stole my sisters probably dead, and they really need a cheap place to live, and shes 11 shes probably too oldfor the monster anyway"
I'm glad you guys caught onto the depiction of the parents pretty early on. A lot of reactors seemingly miss the overall situation they are in and immediately call them abusive or neglectful without realizing they are both overworked, nearing a deadline for their jobs, and had just moved to a new home. Of course they would be a bit distant and short with their kid, they can only manage so much.
@@Desty0007 I can't say that when your kid constantly calls you while your working to tear the wallpaper off and open a door with brick on the other side
Also the mom was in a car accident before they moved. They have a line in the movie about it and she wears a neck brace the entire time. So imagine also going through a dangerous and traumatizing event and recovering from and injury on top on the deadline, keeping partner on time for work, moving house, and getting your kid ready for school, along with normal chores. I wouldn’t have time for entertaining my kid when I am struggling to feed them!
Fun fact about mr bobinski, the reason his skin is blue is because he canonically participated in the Chernobyl cleanup. Which also means he could be in his mid 50s to early 60s at the youngest. Making his insane acrobatic skills even more impressive.
I was confused in why the Mother wouldn't just buy her the gloves at the beginning, but then I put more attention and realized that they were 24 DOLLARS, so, if they're short on money, it makes sense.
As a kid I never understood and now realizing that those are some damn expensive gloves 💀💀 better be made out of thick wool if Im paying that much for some things Im rarely wearing
not only is this one of my childhood classics, but When I was still in High School, our Photography Teacher brought someone who worked on this movie one day, and we watched the movie while he had told us a bunch of cool stuff about the movie's production, that's a moment I don't think I'll ever forget honestly
@@lupascipher2903 from what I remember and to tell something that isn't very much talked about, he primarily told us about how one of the hardest things for them to do, was to make sure the materials for the movie stayed safe, apparently if not taken care of properly, it can deteriorate which is something I genuinely never thought of before
This movie was originally a book by a man named Neil Gaiman, who wrote the book for his five year old daughter. She was into the more eerie things like this. As you saw in the beginning, the Beldam (also known as a witch) uses the dolls she makes to watch her victims current lives and lures them to her world as a better version of the child's original home and lifestyle. Being an evil witch she has a different diet and it's kind of like the Hocus Pocus witches. In order to continue living she eats the souls of her victims. Then she takes the doll back and makes a new one like you saw in the beginning. So... the old doll before Coraline was a victim that had already lost their life. Pretty dark. Lol.
Also, this is just a theory, but I believe the whole "your eyes must be buttons" is because of the saying "The eyes are the key to the soul". Remember how finding the dead children's eyes were so important? And once they gave up their eyes they lost their lives. That's probably how the Beldam eats.
Also the other father in the book isn't a pumpkin but rather was tossed away in the basement of the next door flat, bloated and sticky like dough and looked like a big maggot :)
You know how as a kid, hiding under a blanket makes you feel safe if there is danger? 36:17 can’t believe I just realized why they were all huddled under there
Coraline wasnt actually directed or even produced by Tim Burton. It was directed by Henry Selick and made by Laika Studios which also did Kubo and the Two Strings, Box Trolls, Paranorman and The Missing Link. It had nothing to do with Tim Burton.
@@barbararab6390 with Nightmare Before Christmas it's understandable because his name is literally in the title. But with the rest of these, there's no indication that he was involved at all except it's in a similar style.
If you rewatch the intro of the movie where the other mother is changing the doll into Coraline, you'll notice that the toolkit does not have just sewing tools. Most of the tools in the kit are actually tools that are used for embalming. In a sick way you could say that she was preparing Coraline for her own funeral
10:58 People have theorized that the lyrics in the song Other father signs to Coraline is actually a subtle warning 15:32 The medal Bobinsky is wearing is an award to the liquidators of the Chernobyl disaster, which might so explain why he's blue
So many people don’t pay attention to what is going on with the parents and write them off as neglectful and/or horrible. Mainly because the story is being told from Coraline’s perspective. So let’s breakdown things from the parents point of view: They just moved but clearly have some serious money issues. The mom is wearing a neck brace and mentioned being in an accident. They only gave the movers a dollar tip. They didn’t do much in the way of grocery shopping and were eating mush. The mom made sure to get Coraline school clothes but couldn’t get her the gloves she wanted because they were only spending on the essentials. They started working on their catalog immediately before even fully unpacking. They kept mentioning work and being on a deadline. They worried about what would happen once they finished their work. Once the catalog was finished and they got paid, what happened? They were nicer and less stressed. They wanted to go out to eat to celebrate. The dad was playful with Coraline. The mom got her the gloves she wanted. They splurged on a pizza party for the entire apartment complex. When you see the contrast of the parents before and after, it was clear that money was at the root of the problem. Kids will never understand the intense stress and responsibility of having to provide for a family. And because they don’t understand, they can be selfish, restless, and bratty which just adds to the parents stress. The other mother completely took advantage of the situation to lure Coraline away from her real parents.
I love it when people get to react to my favourite movie!!! Since childhood Coraline has always stuck with me, the claymation, the music, the stunning visuals, how relatable Coraline herself always was to me… it’s just my perfect movie, something I’ve never gotten bored of since the day I first watched it. I’m so happy to see so many people giving it love recently! I’m glad I’m not alone in loving it to death
The Other Father is a real one. He drops a couple hints that Coraline isn't safe, like when he pricks himself with the needle, and he says he doesn't want to hurt her. He was probably created to be the perfect dad and he actually does care about Coraline.
The song the Other Father performs has multiple hints to the Other Mothers true intentions. The most obvious being the song literally says “OUR EYES WILL BE ON CORALINE” referring to the buttons the Other Mother attempts to sew in Coraline’s eyes. Hell, the Other Father saying “So sharp you won’t feel it” before immediately wincing in pain was also a warning.
Another stop-motion movie i definitely recommend is Paranorman. Absolutely 10/10 movie, made by the same studio that made Coraline. Zombies and witches galore.
So honestly yes, the mom _is_ kind of a bit of a jerk. Just keep in mind though that we are seeing this from Coraline’s point of view, so it is not going to be entirely objective. And the parents are both under a great deal of extra stress (mom in an accident, financial struggles, major work deadlines etc); I definitely get the sense that under “more normal” circumstances they are both ordinarily better parents than they show as here.
to me she's not a bad person/mother, she's under a lot of stress because they had just moved in, and they had to finish work before a specific deadline, and as you say it's all from coraline's perspective and as a child she doesn't understand her parents' stress
@@rosiii9Also, she's still in a neck brace from a car accident that she was in not too long ago. She's probably in a decent amount of pain while juggling all this.
A little fact: The Great Bobinsky is wearing this blue, red and gold medal. This is a medal that was given to Liquidators of the Chernobyl disaster, so the people that cleaned up contaminated material, did firefighting, monitored the radioactivity and all kinds of other disaster management. No wonder the guy is a little crazy.
Other Father's death in the novel in genuine nightmare fuel. The film went easy on him and the scene in general. Other Mother meanwhile sees the children as a food source.
There are two very sinister details about the Other Mother and Other World respectively that are subtle but add to the fact that something about that place isn't right. (1) Its always night in the Other World. (2) The Other Mother prepares food, but never eats any of it.
Thank you for reacting to this classic! I still remember watching this in the theaters with my little sister. It's funny re-watching this as an adult because I now understand all the small details I missed when I was younger, like why the parents, mainly the mom, were so grumpy throughout the movie. I'm glad more people are watching it because honestly, it's one of the best animated children's horror movies. BTW: this movie and Nightmare Before Christmas were created by Henry Selick, not Tim Burton.
whats interesting about the parents is that when you are a child you think the "others" are so fun and cool, but when you are an adult..it just feels so wrong, something dont add up, and you have much more empathy for the real parents
The two movers in the beginning, and especially the guy receiving the dollar at 2:35 is in tribute to the Ranft Brothers, as the puppets are meant caricatures of real-life brothers and animation artists Joe and Jerome Ranft (Jerome, a sculptor at Pixar, provides the duo’s vocals). Joe Ranft worked with Henry Selick on both The Nightmare Before Christmas and James and The Giant Peach and was a valued member of the Pixar family. Selick’s tribute is a beautiful, fitting salute to a colleague and a friend (Joe passed away in 2005). Joe was also known for many roles like Squeakers the penguin in Toy Story, Jacque the Cleaning Shrimp in Finding Nemo, and even the caterpillar from A Bugs Life! My late grandfather was also childhood friends with them! :)
The caterpillar from _A Bug's Life_ as in, Heimlich? That may be my favorite character in the film ... although Slim the Walking Stick and the Pill Bugs (Tuck and Roll) are also a hoot.
Not sure if you caught this detail yet, but the store scene when she picked the gloves. They were the best pair, but also the most expensive. It’s clear that her parents are in a tight spot. They’re doing their best and the children don’t always see the struggle.
If you notice, the o in ‘welcome home’ on the cake has a double loop. And back then double loops mean that someone is lying. So although she is welcome, she definitely isn’t home
There was a real popular theory going on that the well is a second portal to the other world As where Wybie mentioned at the start of the movie "that if one was to fall in the well and look up, they would see a sky full of stars, even in the day-time." In the other World, it is ALWAYS night time. I love how so much hidden details are shown in this movie, here's my list of some: Portal Door Compared to Well: 10:08 - 53:14 Other-Fathers cryptic song: 11:07 (it was cut but he said "our eyes will be on Coraline) Other Mother telling Coraline what the Other Father is: 19:45 - 43:47 Other Mother giving a hint where Coralines parents are: 42:50 - 50:03 (sound of water dripping) And there's way more stuff! This movie was amazing 10/10 movie!
There's a theory that says that Beldam was the original owner of the pink palace until a day she fell into the well, the bottomless well is a magical portal to the other world where is night everytime of the day thats why wybie said at the beggining people could see stars in the bottom of the well if they look too much, also the coraline shaped garden is real its just shapped like beldam's face in the real world.
Someone pointed out in a different reaction that the cake's cursive writing has a bit of a secret message. Apparently one loop in an o means it's true, but two loops is false. So she IS welcome, but she's not home.
@@vickybabadoo9927 I don't think Tim was ever involved in Coraline though. So, it makes sense to credit him for Nightmare Before Christmas, because he was directly involved, but it makes no sense to credit him for Coraline, because he had zero involvement in the project whatsoever.
I love this movie so much. Just so yall know tho, this, Nightmare before Christmas, and Jamea and the Giant Peach are all directed by Henry Selleck. None are actually Tim Burton movies
@@JessAnderson1988 People like to call it a Henry Selick film just because he's the director but that doesn't mean you are the creator of that movie. Tim Burton did literally everything else other than that. It's his story, his characters, and he produced it. It's totally a Tim Burton film
@@eleven-hopper Ok, that's giving Tim a little too much credit lol. He didn't literally do everything else. There are dozens of people who contributed to that film in terms of story, design, music, etc., and that includes Henry Selick.
@@JessAnderson1988 well yeah, obviously he didn't do everything else (i was just exaggerating on that) when there's so many people involved as that goes with any movie ever, i was more so just talking about it between henry and tim and more so the things he did make it more of his project that anything else
@@eleven-hopper I recommend using less exaggeration in the future lol. As far as I can tell, your statement is still incorrect even without the exaggeration. Nightmare is a Tim Burton film, and he was involved in getting it made, but not as much as people think he was. As Henry Selick put it, "He wasn't involved in a hands-on way, but his hand is in it. I don't want to take away from Tim, but he was not in San Francisco when we made it. He came up five times over two years, and spent no more than eight or ten days in total."
Actually not Tim Burton, it was Henry Selick and Laika studios. But the book it's based on was written by Neil Gaiman😂 And also, the passage to the other world isn't an "anus" it's an esophagus, apparently the inside of an unknown entity that the other world exists within. Creepily enough, when Coraline made her way through the passage In the books she said she felt as if "something was following her through the passage", as if there was something else that lives in there too.
I love how many little creepy details this movie has and you can see how much work was put into this movie im so happy you guys reacted to this creepy movie ❤
The reason why the cat disappears behind the sign like that at the end is to signify that Coraline never made it out of the dream world. In the book, the ghost children stated that the moment you physically see the Beldam (other mother) you'll never see your true mother again. Which also probably explains why the moment she "defeats" the beldam, her "real life" magically takes a turn for the better. Almost like a never-ending loop.
@@cocoaicci_I mean it makes some sense, sure, but I don't really think that's the case. Counterpoint 1: In the book, the cat is shown to "teleport", walking behind a tree, but not walking out the other side. It's all based on how cats seemingly can get anywhere. I think that scene at the end is merely a reference to that, the cat just teleports/ goes to another world. Counterpoint 2: I don't think the ghost Children know what they are talking about. They are the only kidnapped children, and they ALL were selfish brats when they came to the other world. Perhaps none of them even tried to go back, until it was too late. And maybe it was inconceivable to them that someone would want to go back. It's not like they become omnipotent in death. So, *as far as they know*, you can't see your mother again. Counterpoint 3: So, what was the Beldam's plan? Make a whole other world, where everything is nice, but also obviously fake with button eyes. And then... Create a fake normal world, with perfect replicas of buttonless people? And places outside the pink palace? And also, people in the fake-normal world warning Coraline about the other world? And then... Do that whole thjng by pretending to be rather weak in the other world, like she could only create so much? And after her defeat, Beldam then creates a perfect, buttonless, expansive fake-normal world for Coraline?? Presumably for a long time? And the cat, despite still being in the dream world, doesn't talk? And leaves Coraline in the fake world? Is he evil? I just can't wrap my head around Beldam's actions
The movie left out this one crucial detail that the original story emphasis which is. The alternate reality is alive and “The Beldam/Other Mother” was just the one fueling it with souls so it could continue to exist.
They also breifly mention in the movie and show in the book that they got into a car crash on the way over that they have to pay off which is why the parents are stressed and working overtime to make more money. Something i didnt notice till a recent rewatch
Fun fact: the movers at the beginning of the movie are based off my uncles, Joe & Jerome Ranft. They worked on movies such as this and a bunch of Pixar movies.
My favourite movie of all time ✨my mom used to take me and my sisters to block busters when we were younger and I’d always choose this film. I’m so thrilled you guys are watching this!
Yes! The blockbuster experience! This is my favourite film as well and everything, it makes me so so happy knowing other people are just as in love with this movie as I still am
@@moistwrmonastring1017One of my sisters actually found me a Coraline doll quite recently, it was the last one on the shelf and she said she just had to get it for me, she knows just how much I love this movie. I’m so glad there’s so many people like yourself and others in these comments who hold this film so dearly ☺️✨
I loooove this movie so much! Maybe you didn’t have noticed but, each times Coraline eat the good food in the other world, the Other Mother NEVER eat anything she made for her and even the Other Father eat the food, that’s a clue she’s eating something else….
Something to look into is that there are four eldritch beings in the world of Coraline. The Beldam/Other Mother, of course, is one, and the cat is another. The book has a third creature, the tunnel between the Pink Palace and the Other Mother's world. In the book, Coraline notices that the Beldam is scared of the tunnel and refuses to go into it until the very end. When Coraline is running through the tunnel back to the Pink Palace, she reaches out her hand to touch the dark wall, only to pull back in horror at feeling warm fur. Later, she touches again and it feels slimy and hot, like she's touched a mouth. The tunnel is the throat of some terrible beast that cannot be seen, but it watches Coraline, and it is malevolent. The final monster is the Fog. If you watch the background, the fog sweeps in thicker and thicker as the Beldam draws closer. In the Other world, the Beldam's territory ends at a vast white expanse, and later unravels into it. That's the Fog, and it's far more powerful than she is.
The book of life is NOT a coco knock off! It's a great movie, though it does share some themes of Coco. I highly recommend watching it, it's really worth a watch if you never saw it!
If you think the movie is nuts you should've read the book by Neil Gaiman. No flashy colourful tunnel- the tunnel in the book is more like the throat of something the book only describes as "slow and ancient". No rats made of sand- when the cat kills them they actually bleed. Also Coraline's parents aren't home once in the book. The book begins with them at work and they never make it home. Coraline has to use her pocket money to survive on her own in the house for several days. Also- the whole thing with the hand? Yeah, in the book the hand is not made of nails. It's just an actual, living, bleeding hand with really long fingernails. And don't even get me started on the scene with the other father... in the movie you have that chase sequence with the mantis bot through the garden... in the book that takes place in the house's basement and the other father... well let's just say he is slowly deteriorating into sludge.
Neil Gaiman wrote the book Coraline this has nothing to do with Tim Burton! Production is Laika that’s not associated with Disney!!!!!! Neil Gaiman has written some amazing works you guys should check more of them out!!!! Although the director did direct nightmare before Christmas! Henry ….. I don’t know how to spell his last name! Edit: Henry Selick
This is my favorite childhood movie! It felt so refreshing to see some thing genuinely spooky and unsettling made for child audiences. That was good and not campy spooky.
If you liked this movie, the studio made plenty of other underrated beautiful one ! I especially think of Kubo and the two strings, I feel like there isn't a lot of people who talks about it and my god this is such a masterpiece in every aspect of the term. This isn't perfect obviously but it really deserves some attention !
Afeter this being my favorite movie for almost 15 years, i finally understand why the parents are so dismissive and frustrated with Coraline. 1: They both seem very stressed with their work. They probably don't usually write about plants, that's just the subject of this particular catalog. So for all intensive purposes, they're probably writing about something they have no experience with. 2: They JUST moved, which by itself is stressful. 3: They got into a car accident recently, which likely means serious medical and motor vehicle expenses. 4: They are clearly not always this neglectful, since Coraline would not expect more form them if this was the norm. This is a difficult moment in their lives, and as much as it may hurt to relegate their daughter to the background, they have more important things ro focus on than keeping her from boredom.
I hated her mom and the dad to some extent as a kid but as an adult, I understand how they're feeling and side with them, I don't think Coraline is awful now but definitely selfish with my newfound respect, humbleness and understanding for the two parents.
This was my absolute favorite movie as a child right next to ponyo! I memorized almost every line when i was little, i knew every scene each time i watched it. I’m glad you guys enjoyed it Also… the book of life is NOT a coco knock off, it came before coco and is another childhood favorite of mine, you guys should DEFINITELY watch it, i think you guys would like it😁
This movie is a work of art. It's been my sister's favorite movie since it came out. I'm glad you guys got a chance to watch this one. There is so much detail to pay attention to in this one and I'm glad you guys pointed so much out. I'm especially glad you noticed the other mother is the same person as the thing you saw at the beginning and -yes- the boobs are insane. At first, I too thought she may have burnt her parents when their doll went in the fire. 😅
Fun fact! Belldamn is similar species of other world creature related to it true form it series!. Also love always Keith David voices he such legend. Yall definitely need to watch James the gaint peach, frankin weenie. Also big fish idk if you guys seen that one but it’s good movie. Love to see any of these on the channel I enjoy your reactions to these grate claymations movies!.
"Beldam" is an old English word to describe an ornery or spiteful elderly woman, although it can be also be roughly translated to mean "witch" as well.
I know people already corrected you guys on how this is a Henry Selick movie, not a Tim Burton one, in fact, Tim Burton had nothing at all to do with this one (whereas in Nightmare Before Christmas he at least made the original poem and with it the character designs), but I'd also like to point out that this is a Laika movie The studio Laika has made a handful of truly amazing Stop Motion movies so far (in order: Coraline, ParaNorman, Boxtrolls, Kubo and the two strings and Mister Link) and I can only recommend every single one of them Also, some neat fun facts for Coraline: - The original book was written by Neil Gaiman, whose publisher (if I'm not mistaken) was hesitant to publish the book as intended because they thought it'd be too scary for kids, so Neil Gaiman suggested they read it to their own kid first and see what they think. The kid claimed they loved it so it got greenlit. Years later the kid admitted that they were actually scared out of their mind by the story but wanted to know how it'd end so they pretended they weren't scared - Wybie was created purely for the movie version, he's not in the book - Coraline's knitted clothes were actually hand-knitted with tiny knitting needles, there's some amazing behind the scenes footage for it on TH-cam, it's worth checking out (actually, pretty much all behind the scenes footage about stop motion movies like this are worth checking out tbh, but this is one that blew my mind a bit the first time I saw it) - not sure if it's actually confirmed, but supposedly Mr Bobinsky's blue skin came from him helping to clean up radioactive waste (I think from Chernobyl?), the badge he wears on his chest also points towards this - a popular theory (which is definitely not confirmed though) says that the well is actually another portal leading into the Other World, which would mean that Coraline practically gave the key back to the Other Mother in the end without realizing it. This is based on what Wybie says in the beginning about how people say that if you fall into the well you can see a sky full of stars in the middle of the day and the Other World having a nightsky full of stars even when Coraline comes over during the day
The mom is also kinda pissy in this movie due to an accident that happens just before they move in, and it's sort of implied that Coraline may have been at least partly responsible for what happened, hence her neckbrace.
Its believed that at the end, coraline kinda throwed the key back to the Beldam, the theory is that theres more than one portal, and the well is one of them, thats why the Cat was able to disapear at the end, the other world is still there.
If I had a nickle for every time Henry Selick's work got mistaken for Tim Burton, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't alot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Some wonderful lines from the book:
Other Mother: I swear it on my mother's grave.
Coraline: Does she even have a grave?
Other Mother: Oh yes. I put her in there myself. And when I found her trying to crawl out I put her back in it.
"You know I love you, Coraline." Despite herself, Coraline nodded. It was true, The Other Mother loved her. But she loved her like a miser loved money or a dragon loved its gold. In the Other Mother's button eyes, Coraline was a possession, nothing more. A tolerated pet whose behavior was no longer amusing.
It seemed to Coraline that the house was crouching, and staring down at her, as if it were not really a house but only the idea of a house - and the person who had had the idea, she was certain, was not a good person.
@@EmpathNaga Ooh, that last excerpt really gives me the heebie jeebies
I always loved the paragraph when she steps into the door for the first time, "It opened on to a dark hallway. The bricks had gone as if they'd never been there. There was a cold, musty smell coming through the open doorway: it smelled like something very old and very slow."
But I especially love when she leaves the other house, "Coraline took a deep breath and stepped into the darkness, where strange voices whispered and distant winds howled. She became certain that there was something in the dark behind her: something very old and very slow. Her heart beat so hard and so loudly she was scared it would burst out of her chest. She closed her eyes against the dark."
this just convinced me to read the book too because i never read it since i saw the movie first (and I was 7 when it came out) and I thought it wouldn’t be fun to read if I already know the story but those lines you quoted sounded awesome and worth reading
Poor Henry Selick. Imagine everyone thinking Tim Burton made all your best work.
Nah, we've already been corrected a 100 times. I think he'll be fine.
@@sortastupid😂😂😂 y’all should look into Neil gaiman works tho :) he wrote this book and had a very active tumblr of all things LOL
Poor Tim Burton for having to hear your best film was Coraline.
Kidding, Nightmare Before Christmas is certainly more popular.
@aang2629story was by tim tho so they both worked together on that
@@airallamanzares7385the story was by tim and micheal McDowell. Why isn’t he getting a mention? Nightmare before Christmas is a Henry selic movie and I won’t accept anything else bc I really dislike tim.
The director is Henry Selick
He also directed Nightmares Before Christmas and The Giant Peach
Thanks for commenting this, Tim Burton tends to get alot of credit for movies that he had little to no hand in. My man Henry Selick never gets enough credit.
@@aliencentaur Yes its a very common misconception
Henry Selick deserves more recognition
so, its the giant peach basically momotaro?? cause the title sounds like it, I've never seen it
@@kati... Abused kid eats a magic bug and trips balls but turns out at the end he wasn't tripping balls
Interesting tidbit about the man who lives upstairs though, apparently the medal he wears is a liquidation medal - which is a medal gifted to ones who helped with clean up efforts in Chernobyl. Which is why he's blue, its from radiation posioning. And something that helps radiation poisoning is beet root, which is what he eats. So the man upstairs is actually a Chernobyl survivor.
Also, i think the director said that Miss Spink and Forcible are a couple, could be wrong tho
@barbararab6390 It was the author!
@@barbararab6390 Aren't they sisters though? Either way, they're close and spent their lives together.
@@barbararab6390 I mean they are roommates after all. Just some gals being pals. Historians might even say they were really good friends.
@@barbararab6390lol that explains the bantering 😂
I think an important detail with the Coraline's mom's attitude is that they were just in a car accident, and she's in a neck brace--not only are they stressed from lack of money, she's also probably in a decent amount of pain. It's not an excuse for her being so snippy with Coraline, but in the end I feel like it's a great depiction of flawed but very human adults and how that makes the ultra-devoted perfection of the Other Parents so tempting in comparison.
Honestly tho, I love the parents in Coraline, its so realistic
that's very true, she's injured and under stress of work, and they just moved, yeah she shouldn't be so rude but my mom works at home often and wants to be left alone while she works when she's under stress
Watch the deleted scenes, they show a totally different dynamic with Coraline and her parents.
Fair, but the movie itself doesn't point that out so it's also fair that viewers aren't connecting to the dots on that :/ which sucks because it does explain alot about the mother's harshness
These guys talk like they have never been in a bad mood
I absolutely love how Coraline's parents are written in this movie. They're a realistic portrayal of what overworked parents going through a stressful time are like: they're curt and exasperated when talking with Coraline, but they still maintain a level of care and empathy for her.
On the complete opposite end of that spectrum, the Other Mother is a character that only becomes creepier as you get older. She love bombs Coraline from the moment they meet, and she never shows any emotion other than unnatural cheeriness until she fails to pressure Coraline to do something that she's not comfortable with.
I think this movie is incredibly important to show to young kids, despite how many nightmares it'll give them. It tells them two important things:
- Your parents are people just like everyone else and, although their stress might get the better of them sometimes, they still love you.
- Be wary of people who constantly give you everything you want. If something seems too good to be true, then it probably is.
I Agree 100% With Everything You Said.
And Americans with life crushing medical bills.
I agree, but I'd say not TOO young kids. You don't want to scar them for life, and they wouldn't understand the message you want them to get from this movie anyway (only DOLLS! SPIDER! BUTTON EYES! BUGS! EVERYTHING IS SCARY CAN'T SLEEP!!! XD).
So I'd say wait for them to be at least... 10 years old maybe?
@@leovk5779 I mean, yea a child would need a certain maturity to get the message but also slapping an age on it won't help much since some children will be able to deal with scary movies way better than others.
@@AnnekeOosterink True, that depends on the child. I'm just saying you should wait until you think your child is mature enough.
I’m glad there are other people here who recognize and are sharing the knowledge that Henry Selick is the director behind this film. Credit to him and Laika Studios.
Tim Burton unfortunately gets credit for his films from people, even when he had zero involvement in the movie. Selick barely even gets credit for Nightmare Before Christmas when he directed it.
Yeah, some could be a little less toxic abut it. Just informing us could work. 😂
@@sortastupid gotcha 😂👍🏻 some people are passionate about it but I understand can also be very aggressive. Aim to educate, not attack!
@@sortastupid it’s not super fair since the guy did put his name on the title. Really unfair of him to do it *just* cuz he produced it
@@ma.2089 tim burton wasn't the one who decided to put his name on it. disney did, he never had a say in it. and to be fair tim burton did a lot more than just 'produce' the movie. we wouldn't have had that movie if it wasn't for him. all henry did was direct it where it's tim's story, characters, he produced the movie, etc. it's totally a tim burton movie
@@sortastupidno one was toxic, you guys are as sensitive as little girls
One reason the Other Mother comes on so strong and creepy is that she’s starving. Her last victim was the sweet Ghost Girl who was the sister of Grandma Wyborne. After her sister disappeared she locked up the door l, subdivided the home, and refused to let anyone who had kids rent the apartments-until maybe she got a bit senile or made a mistake with Coraline’s family. The Other Mother probably usually waits weeks before offering the button eyes but based on the age of the house and the images of the ghosts, she was likely overdue for a meal and jumped the gun too early.
its also theorized that wybies grandma made an exception for coraline and let her family move in because she was hoping that the bedlam would be too focused on coraline to target wybie so it was a really messed up way of trying to protect him
A theory I saw that made sense was that either the parents, in their hurry to move, "forgot" to mention they had a kid, or the grandma thought "fuck it, it's been half a century, whatever stole my sisters probably dead, and they really need a cheap place to live, and shes 11 shes probably too oldfor the monster anyway"
I'm glad you guys caught onto the depiction of the parents pretty early on.
A lot of reactors seemingly miss the overall situation they are in and immediately call them abusive or neglectful without realizing they are both overworked, nearing a deadline for their jobs, and had just moved to a new home.
Of course they would be a bit distant and short with their kid, they can only manage so much.
Too bad they immediately called her mom a bitch for getting annoyed
@@reelzebub4167 yeah I mean because she was being one
@@Desty0007 I can't say that when your kid constantly calls you while your working to tear the wallpaper off and open a door with brick on the other side
Also the mom was in a car accident before they moved. They have a line in the movie about it and she wears a neck brace the entire time. So imagine also going through a dangerous and traumatizing event and recovering from and injury on top on the deadline, keeping partner on time for work, moving house, and getting your kid ready for school, along with normal chores. I wouldn’t have time for entertaining my kid when I am struggling to feed them!
Expect razzle's reaction, lmao
Fun fact about mr bobinski, the reason his skin is blue is because he canonically participated in the Chernobyl cleanup. Which also means he could be in his mid 50s to early 60s at the youngest. Making his insane acrobatic skills even more impressive.
I was confused in why the Mother wouldn't just buy her the gloves at the beginning, but then I put more attention and realized that they were 24 DOLLARS, so, if they're short on money, it makes sense.
I was confused in why the Mother wouldn’t just buy her the gloves at the beginning, but then I put more attention and realized that
As a kid I never understood and now realizing that those are some damn expensive gloves 💀💀 better be made out of thick wool if Im paying that much for some things Im rarely wearing
And the fact that the mom ended up buying them anyway near the end. Really sweet of her.
not only is this one of my childhood classics, but When I was still in High School, our Photography Teacher brought someone who worked on this movie one day, and we watched the movie while he had told us a bunch of cool stuff about the movie's production, that's a moment I don't think I'll ever forget honestly
I am UNBELIEVABLY jealous of you, oh my god
@@moistwrmonastring1017 I'm just genuinely grateful that it happened in the first place, you can never forget a moment like that
oh thats so cool! got any facts to share about the movie?
That's amazing
@@lupascipher2903 from what I remember and to tell something that isn't very much talked about, he primarily told us about how one of the hardest things for them to do, was to make sure the materials for the movie stayed safe, apparently if not taken care of properly, it can deteriorate which is something I genuinely never thought of before
This movie was originally a book by a man named Neil Gaiman, who wrote the book for his five year old daughter. She was into the more eerie things like this. As you saw in the beginning, the Beldam (also known as a witch) uses the dolls she makes to watch her victims current lives and lures them to her world as a better version of the child's original home and lifestyle. Being an evil witch she has a different diet and it's kind of like the Hocus Pocus witches. In order to continue living she eats the souls of her victims. Then she takes the doll back and makes a new one like you saw in the beginning. So... the old doll before Coraline was a victim that had already lost their life. Pretty dark. Lol.
Also, this is just a theory, but I believe the whole "your eyes must be buttons" is because of the saying "The eyes are the key to the soul". Remember how finding the dead children's eyes were so important? And once they gave up their eyes they lost their lives. That's probably how the Beldam eats.
referring to Neil Gaiman as "a man" like people aren't supposed to know his name is like a punch in the gut lolol
I cant remember but i don’t think the doll was in the book
Also the other father in the book isn't a pumpkin but rather was tossed away in the basement of the next door flat, bloated and sticky like dough and looked like a big maggot :)
She's like Pennywise/It in a way but instead of feeding on fear, she feeds on love.
You know how as a kid, hiding under a blanket makes you feel safe if there is danger? 36:17 can’t believe I just realized why they were all huddled under there
Coraline wasnt actually directed or even produced by Tim Burton. It was directed by Henry Selick and made by Laika Studios which also did Kubo and the Two Strings, Box Trolls, Paranorman and The Missing Link. It had nothing to do with Tim Burton.
Henry Selick also directed Nightmare Before Christmas.
How do I pin a comment on a video that I didn’t make? 🤔
It sucks that ppl constantly give Tim Burton credit for shit he didnt or barely worked on
@@barbararab6390 with Nightmare Before Christmas it's understandable because his name is literally in the title. But with the rest of these, there's no indication that he was involved at all except it's in a similar style.
@@oliviarogers2808 not even style, just the same medium
I just noticed the other mother never puts food on her plate. I love finding those small details that are easy to miss.
Wow, I never noticed that
My favourite detail about the other mother is every time they transition to morning she is always where the doll is sitting
But why did she tap her hand like that
Her mom does have a lot of attitude, it’s where Coraline gets it from😂
We all have something of our parents
Yea lol
If you rewatch the intro of the movie where the other mother is changing the doll into Coraline, you'll notice that the toolkit does not have just sewing tools. Most of the tools in the kit are actually tools that are used for embalming. In a sick way you could say that she was preparing Coraline for her own funeral
10:58 People have theorized that the lyrics in the song Other father signs to Coraline is actually a subtle warning
15:32 The medal Bobinsky is wearing is an award to the liquidators of the Chernobyl disaster, which might so explain why he's blue
What's the use of feeling blue? 😂
@@Robin.gal_luvRadiation poisoning from Chernobyl...
@@kohaiame2691 LMFAO
So many people don’t pay attention to what is going on with the parents and write them off as neglectful and/or horrible. Mainly because the story is being told from Coraline’s perspective.
So let’s breakdown things from the parents point of view:
They just moved but clearly have some serious money issues.
The mom is wearing a neck brace and mentioned being in an accident.
They only gave the movers a dollar tip.
They didn’t do much in the way of grocery shopping and were eating mush.
The mom made sure to get Coraline school clothes but couldn’t get her the gloves she wanted because they were only spending on the essentials.
They started working on their catalog immediately before even fully unpacking.
They kept mentioning work and being on a deadline.
They worried about what would happen once they finished their work.
Once the catalog was finished and they got paid, what happened?
They were nicer and less stressed.
They wanted to go out to eat to celebrate.
The dad was playful with Coraline.
The mom got her the gloves she wanted.
They splurged on a pizza party for the entire apartment complex.
When you see the contrast of the parents before and after, it was clear that money was at the root of the problem.
Kids will never understand the intense stress and responsibility of having to provide for a family. And because they don’t understand, they can be selfish, restless, and bratty which just adds to the parents stress.
The other mother completely took advantage of the situation to lure Coraline away from her real parents.
Yeah people really gotta pay attention more.
I love it when people get to react to my favourite movie!!! Since childhood Coraline has always stuck with me, the claymation, the music, the stunning visuals, how relatable Coraline herself always was to me… it’s just my perfect movie, something I’ve never gotten bored of since the day I first watched it.
I’m so happy to see so many people giving it love recently! I’m glad I’m not alone in loving it to death
Your favorite movie was my nightmare fuel as a kid, I watched this when I was like 9
The Other Father is a real one. He drops a couple hints that Coraline isn't safe, like when he pricks himself with the needle, and he says he doesn't want to hurt her. He was probably created to be the perfect dad and he actually does care about Coraline.
Not gonna lie, the dinner scene is one of my favorite food scenes because the all the food just looked so good, that I would watch this whenever I eat
That scene is so aesthetically pleasing 🤤
@@uhuh9859 Indeed
And she barely ate any too, it always bothered meee
@@utatanepikoV5 Knowing it could've been made of bugs, I'm kind of glad she didn't eat too many...
That's how the faeries get you.
If you want another great stop-motion, "Kubo and the Two Strings" is a masterpiece.
My all time favourite movie bro, it is SO GOOD
The song the Other Father performs has multiple hints to the Other Mothers true intentions. The most obvious being the song literally says “OUR EYES WILL BE ON CORALINE” referring to the buttons the Other Mother attempts to sew in Coraline’s eyes. Hell, the Other Father saying “So sharp you won’t feel it” before immediately wincing in pain was also a warning.
I agree, but he winced in pain because the other mother kicked him under the table I think
Another stop-motion movie i definitely recommend is Paranorman. Absolutely 10/10 movie, made by the same studio that made Coraline. Zombies and witches galore.
“The Book of Life? What is this, a Coco Knockoff?”
Never did I think words could hurt me so.
so real i was so offended
I know, book of life is so much better 😭😭😭
So honestly yes, the mom _is_ kind of a bit of a jerk. Just keep in mind though that we are seeing this from Coraline’s point of view, so it is not going to be entirely objective. And the parents are both under a great deal of extra stress (mom in an accident, financial struggles, major work deadlines etc); I definitely get the sense that under “more normal” circumstances they are both ordinarily better parents than they show as here.
to me she's not a bad person/mother, she's under a lot of stress because they had just moved in, and they had to finish work before a specific deadline, and as you say it's all from coraline's perspective and as a child she doesn't understand her parents' stress
@@rosiii9Also, she's still in a neck brace from a car accident that she was in not too long ago. She's probably in a decent amount of pain while juggling all this.
A little fact: The Great Bobinsky is wearing this blue, red and gold medal. This is a medal that was given to Liquidators of the Chernobyl disaster, so the people that cleaned up contaminated material, did firefighting, monitored the radioactivity and all kinds of other disaster management. No wonder the guy is a little crazy.
Other Father's death in the novel in genuine nightmare fuel. The film went easy on him and the scene in general. Other Mother meanwhile sees the children as a food source.
How is his death?
There are two very sinister details about the Other Mother and Other World respectively that are subtle but add to the fact that something about that place isn't right.
(1) Its always night in the Other World.
(2) The Other Mother prepares food, but never eats any of it.
My first thought whenever there's a feast in some magical place is 'yeah, that's how you become a faerie's slave.'
12:46 omg i've seen this movie a million times but somehow i never noticed the lighting looked like a hand. that gave me goosebumps 😳
Thank you for reacting to this classic! I still remember watching this in the theaters with my little sister. It's funny re-watching this as an adult because I now understand all the small details I missed when I was younger, like why the parents, mainly the mom, were so grumpy throughout the movie. I'm glad more people are watching it because honestly, it's one of the best animated children's horror movies.
BTW: this movie and Nightmare Before Christmas were created by Henry Selick, not Tim Burton.
whats interesting about the parents is that when you are a child you think the "others" are so fun and cool, but when you are an adult..it just feels so wrong, something dont add up, and you have much more empathy for the real parents
The two movers in the beginning, and especially the guy receiving the dollar at 2:35 is in tribute to the Ranft Brothers, as the puppets are meant caricatures of real-life brothers and animation artists Joe and Jerome Ranft (Jerome, a sculptor at Pixar, provides the duo’s vocals). Joe Ranft worked with Henry Selick on both The Nightmare Before Christmas and James and The Giant Peach and was a valued member of the Pixar family. Selick’s tribute is a beautiful, fitting salute to a colleague and a friend (Joe passed away in 2005). Joe was also known for many roles like Squeakers the penguin in Toy Story, Jacque the Cleaning Shrimp in Finding Nemo, and even the caterpillar from A Bugs Life! My late grandfather was also childhood friends with them! :)
The caterpillar from _A Bug's Life_ as in, Heimlich? That may be my favorite character in the film ... although Slim the Walking Stick and the Pill Bugs (Tuck and Roll) are also a hoot.
Not sure if you caught this detail yet, but the store scene when she picked the gloves. They were the best pair, but also the most expensive. It’s clear that her parents are in a tight spot. They’re doing their best and the children don’t always see the struggle.
That little crawl space that Coraline goes through is actually alive in the book
this actually isnt a Tim Burton film. the director, Henry Selick, also directed James and the Giant Peach and The Nightmare Before Christmas
Can we talk about how at 53:36 the captions says
“Girl singing nonsense language” 😭😂😭
If you notice, the o in ‘welcome home’ on the cake has a double loop. And back then double loops mean that someone is lying. So although she is welcome, she definitely isn’t home
My theory is that the Beldam is the same species as IT but instead of fear she prefers flavoring her meals with love.
No she's actually a witch
I love the part where the Other Mother says “It’s sewin’ time” and then she started sewing up the doll. Truly one of the stop-motion movies ever made.
There was a real popular theory going on that the well is a second portal to the other world
As where Wybie mentioned at the start of the movie "that if one was to fall in the well and look up, they would see a sky full of stars, even in the day-time."
In the other World, it is ALWAYS night time.
I love how so much hidden details are shown in this movie, here's my list of some:
Portal Door Compared to Well:
10:08 - 53:14
Other-Fathers cryptic song:
11:07 (it was cut but he said "our eyes will be on Coraline)
Other Mother telling Coraline what the Other Father is:
19:45 - 43:47
Other Mother giving a hint where Coralines parents are:
42:50 - 50:03 (sound of water dripping)
And there's way more stuff! This movie was amazing 10/10 movie!
There's a theory that says that Beldam was the original owner of the pink palace until a day she fell into the well, the bottomless well is a magical portal to the other world where is night everytime of the day thats why wybie said at the beggining people could see stars in the bottom of the well if they look too much, also the coraline shaped garden is real its just shapped like beldam's face in the real world.
Someone pointed out in a different reaction that the cake's cursive writing has a bit of a secret message. Apparently one loop in an o means it's true, but two loops is false. So she IS welcome, but she's not home.
Poor Henry Selik, Tim Burton stealing his credit. Henry Selick directed this movie and Nightmare before Christmas. Not Tim Burton.
Nightmare before Christmas is still tim burtons story and characters lmao, ofc he’s gonna get credit for that
@@vickybabadoo9927 I don't think Tim was ever involved in Coraline though. So, it makes sense to credit him for Nightmare Before Christmas, because he was directly involved, but it makes no sense to credit him for Coraline, because he had zero involvement in the project whatsoever.
7:28 They can work from home and still care that Coraline almost died and has poison Oak
I love this movie so much.
Just so yall know tho, this, Nightmare before Christmas, and Jamea and the Giant Peach are all directed by Henry Selleck. None are actually Tim Burton movies
Eh, I'd call Nightmare a Tim Burton movie. He didn't direct it, but he had a hand in the story and character design and also produced the film.
@@JessAnderson1988 People like to call it a Henry Selick film just because he's the director but that doesn't mean you are the creator of that movie. Tim Burton did literally everything else other than that. It's his story, his characters, and he produced it. It's totally a Tim Burton film
@@eleven-hopper Ok, that's giving Tim a little too much credit lol. He didn't literally do everything else. There are dozens of people who contributed to that film in terms of story, design, music, etc., and that includes Henry Selick.
@@JessAnderson1988 well yeah, obviously he didn't do everything else (i was just exaggerating on that) when there's so many people involved as that goes with any movie ever, i was more so just talking about it between henry and tim and more so the things he did make it more of his project that anything else
@@eleven-hopper I recommend using less exaggeration in the future lol. As far as I can tell, your statement is still incorrect even without the exaggeration. Nightmare is a Tim Burton film, and he was involved in getting it made, but not as much as people think he was. As Henry Selick put it, "He wasn't involved in a hands-on way, but his hand is in it. I don't want to take away from Tim, but he was not in San Francisco when we made it. He came up five times over two years, and spent no more than eight or ten days in total."
Random fact - Bobinsky wears the medal "Participant in liquidation of the Chernobyl NPP accident consequences"
Probably that's why he's blue
Him: “What’s book of life is that a knock off coco?”
Me, out loud : “NOO!!”
The gasp I gasped when you said "is this a coco knockoff" HOW DAREEEEE!! Uncultured
Actually not Tim Burton, it was Henry Selick and Laika studios. But the book it's based on was written by Neil Gaiman😂
And also, the passage to the other world isn't an "anus" it's an esophagus, apparently the inside of an unknown entity that the other world exists within. Creepily enough, when Coraline made her way through the passage In the books she said she felt as if "something was following her through the passage", as if there was something else that lives in there too.
I love how many little creepy details this movie has and you can see how much work was put into this movie im so happy you guys reacted to this creepy movie ❤
The reason why the cat disappears behind the sign like that at the end is to signify that Coraline never made it out of the dream world. In the book, the ghost children stated that the moment you physically see the Beldam (other mother) you'll never see your true mother again. Which also probably explains why the moment she "defeats" the beldam, her "real life" magically takes a turn for the better. Almost like a never-ending loop.
*should clarify this is one of the theories but it makes sense*
@@cocoaicci_I mean it makes some sense, sure, but I don't really think that's the case.
Counterpoint 1:
In the book, the cat is shown to "teleport", walking behind a tree, but not walking out the other side. It's all based on how cats seemingly can get anywhere. I think that scene at the end is merely a reference to that, the cat just teleports/ goes to another world.
Counterpoint 2:
I don't think the ghost Children know what they are talking about. They are the only kidnapped children, and they ALL were selfish brats when they came to the other world. Perhaps none of them even tried to go back, until it was too late. And maybe it was inconceivable to them that someone would want to go back. It's not like they become omnipotent in death. So, *as far as they know*, you can't see your mother again.
Counterpoint 3:
So, what was the Beldam's plan? Make a whole other world, where everything is nice, but also obviously fake with button eyes. And then... Create a fake normal world, with perfect replicas of buttonless people? And places outside the pink palace? And also, people in the fake-normal world warning Coraline about the other world? And then... Do that whole thjng by pretending to be rather weak in the other world, like she could only create so much? And after her defeat, Beldam then creates a perfect, buttonless, expansive fake-normal world for Coraline?? Presumably for a long time? And the cat, despite still being in the dream world, doesn't talk? And leaves Coraline in the fake world? Is he evil? I just can't wrap my head around Beldam's actions
That's just a theory
The movie left out this one crucial detail that the original story emphasis which is. The alternate reality is alive and “The Beldam/Other Mother” was just the one fueling it with souls so it could continue to exist.
fun fact the medal mr bobinsky is wearing is a real life medal that was given to people that helped in the nuclear cleanup of chernobyl
They also breifly mention in the movie and show in the book that they got into a car crash on the way over that they have to pay off which is why the parents are stressed and working overtime to make more money. Something i didnt notice till a recent rewatch
42:33 Remember how she said "hungry as a pumpkin?"
Fun fact: the movers at the beginning of the movie are based off my uncles, Joe & Jerome Ranft.
They worked on movies such as this and a bunch of Pixar movies.
My favourite movie of all time ✨my mom used to take me and my sisters to block busters when we were younger and I’d always choose this film. I’m so thrilled you guys are watching this!
Yes! The blockbuster experience! This is my favourite film as well and everything, it makes me so so happy knowing other people are just as in love with this movie as I still am
@@moistwrmonastring1017One of my sisters actually found me a Coraline doll quite recently, it was the last one on the shelf and she said she just had to get it for me, she knows just how much I love this movie. I’m so glad there’s so many people like yourself and others in these comments who hold this film so dearly ☺️✨
I loooove this movie so much! Maybe you didn’t have noticed but, each times Coraline eat the good food in the other world, the Other Mother NEVER eat anything she made for her and even the Other Father eat the food, that’s a clue she’s eating something else….
Something to look into is that there are four eldritch beings in the world of Coraline. The Beldam/Other Mother, of course, is one, and the cat is another. The book has a third creature, the tunnel between the Pink Palace and the Other Mother's world. In the book, Coraline notices that the Beldam is scared of the tunnel and refuses to go into it until the very end. When Coraline is running through the tunnel back to the Pink Palace, she reaches out her hand to touch the dark wall, only to pull back in horror at feeling warm fur. Later, she touches again and it feels slimy and hot, like she's touched a mouth. The tunnel is the throat of some terrible beast that cannot be seen, but it watches Coraline, and it is malevolent. The final monster is the Fog. If you watch the background, the fog sweeps in thicker and thicker as the Beldam draws closer. In the Other world, the Beldam's territory ends at a vast white expanse, and later unravels into it. That's the Fog, and it's far more powerful than she is.
The book of life is NOT a coco knock off! It's a great movie, though it does share some themes of Coco.
I highly recommend watching it, it's really worth a watch if you never saw it!
Book of life is a few years older than Coco. How dare anyone say its a knock off.
If you think the movie is nuts you should've read the book by Neil Gaiman.
No flashy colourful tunnel- the tunnel in the book is more like the throat of something the book only describes as "slow and ancient".
No rats made of sand- when the cat kills them they actually bleed.
Also Coraline's parents aren't home once in the book. The book begins with them at work and they never make it home. Coraline has to use her pocket money to survive on her own in the house for several days.
Also- the whole thing with the hand? Yeah, in the book the hand is not made of nails. It's just an actual, living, bleeding hand with really long fingernails.
And don't even get me started on the scene with the other father... in the movie you have that chase sequence with the mantis bot through the garden... in the book that takes place in the house's basement and the other father... well let's just say he is slowly deteriorating into sludge.
16:13 BOOMY! Stop it with your one liners, you are killing me!
The predictions you guys made in the start would have been so cool for a movie! The others becoming dolls. The dolls stealing the places.. so errie!
49:39
Beldam: Don’t leave me!!! I’ll die without you!!!
Boom: That sounds like a “you” problem
Me: 😂😂😂😂 so true
28:04 their faces and his laugh made me bust a gut! XD Legit was in tears from laughter in this scene!
Makes me happy to see y'all experiencing classic animated films for the first time
All these years later, i realise the well works as a trap because its a fairy circle. (The mushroom circles you can sometimes find)
Neil Gaiman wrote the book Coraline this has nothing to do with Tim Burton! Production is Laika that’s not associated with Disney!!!!!! Neil Gaiman has written some amazing works you guys should check more of them out!!!! Although the director did direct nightmare before Christmas! Henry ….. I don’t know how to spell his last name!
Edit: Henry Selick
This is my favorite childhood movie! It felt so refreshing to see some thing genuinely spooky and unsettling made for child audiences. That was good and not campy spooky.
The circle of mushrooms that Coraline steps in in the beginning is actually a Fey circle. Newsflash, you don’t FUCK with the Fey.
Not unless you're really, really confident in your wits, or you've got a bag of iron dust in your pocket.
If you liked this movie, the studio made plenty of other underrated beautiful one ! I especially think of Kubo and the two strings, I feel like there isn't a lot of people who talks about it and my god this is such a masterpiece in every aspect of the term. This isn't perfect obviously but it really deserves some attention !
12:27 A nice details that the one loop O mean true but double loop O isn't. So she definitely "welcome" but she isn't "home"
fun fact when the other father sang that song for Coraline he was trying to tell her that he is her friend & warn her that The Beldam was evil
Afeter this being my favorite movie for almost 15 years, i finally understand why the parents are so dismissive and frustrated with Coraline.
1: They both seem very stressed with their work. They probably don't usually write about plants, that's just the subject of this particular catalog. So for all intensive purposes, they're probably writing about something they have no experience with.
2: They JUST moved, which by itself is stressful.
3: They got into a car accident recently, which likely means serious medical and motor vehicle expenses.
4: They are clearly not always this neglectful, since Coraline would not expect more form them if this was the norm. This is a difficult moment in their lives, and as much as it may hurt to relegate their daughter to the background, they have more important things ro focus on than keeping her from boredom.
I actually went to the Seattle Pop culture museum while they were having a Laika exhibit and the house is fairly large.
I hated her mom and the dad to some extent as a kid but as an adult, I understand how they're feeling and side with them, I don't think Coraline is awful now but definitely selfish with my newfound respect, humbleness and understanding for the two parents.
I don’t think Coraline is selfish even with my compassion for the parents. I can see both sides. Wanting attention from your parents isn’t selfish.
This was my absolute favorite movie as a child right next to ponyo! I memorized almost every line when i was little, i knew every scene each time i watched it. I’m glad you guys enjoyed it
Also… the book of life is NOT a coco knock off, it came before coco and is another childhood favorite of mine, you guys should DEFINITELY watch it, i think you guys would like it😁
HOLY SH- I REMEMBER EVERY LINE TOO BRU
19:55 The beladams head is in a shape of a spiders head and I love that attention to detail
This movie is a work of art. It's been my sister's favorite movie since it came out.
I'm glad you guys got a chance to watch this one. There is so much detail to pay attention to in this one and I'm glad you guys pointed so much out. I'm especially glad you noticed the other mother is the same person as the thing you saw at the beginning and -yes- the boobs are insane.
At first, I too thought she may have burnt her parents when their doll went in the fire. 😅
Book of Life is also a banger movie. When the spanish teacher didn't want to work that week she'd just throw that on.
This movie horrified me as a child, And it still does.
Is it weird to say that this movie never scared me once as a kid? It was one of my favorites growing up tbh…
If this ever gets made into live action. It would be a legit horror movie
I hope to god they don’t. Not everything needs to have a live action remake
Fun fact! Belldamn is similar species of other world creature related to it true form it series!. Also love always Keith David voices he such legend. Yall definitely need to watch James the gaint peach, frankin weenie. Also big fish idk if you guys seen that one but it’s good movie. Love to see any of these on the channel I enjoy your reactions to these grate claymations movies!.
Love your reactions! But Tim Burton didn’t have anything to do with the production of this movie, Henry Selick is the director.
With how mysterious and many questions unanswered, the lore of this world is definitely worth looking into.
12:48: NICE CATCH! Never noticed that before. That's a cool little detail.
"Beldam" is an old English word to describe an ornery or spiteful elderly woman, although it can be also be roughly translated to mean "witch" as well.
I know people already corrected you guys on how this is a Henry Selick movie, not a Tim Burton one, in fact, Tim Burton had nothing at all to do with this one (whereas in Nightmare Before Christmas he at least made the original poem and with it the character designs), but I'd also like to point out that this is a Laika movie
The studio Laika has made a handful of truly amazing Stop Motion movies so far (in order: Coraline, ParaNorman, Boxtrolls, Kubo and the two strings and Mister Link) and I can only recommend every single one of them
Also, some neat fun facts for Coraline:
- The original book was written by Neil Gaiman, whose publisher (if I'm not mistaken) was hesitant to publish the book as intended because they thought it'd be too scary for kids, so Neil Gaiman suggested they read it to their own kid first and see what they think. The kid claimed they loved it so it got greenlit. Years later the kid admitted that they were actually scared out of their mind by the story but wanted to know how it'd end so they pretended they weren't scared
- Wybie was created purely for the movie version, he's not in the book
- Coraline's knitted clothes were actually hand-knitted with tiny knitting needles, there's some amazing behind the scenes footage for it on TH-cam, it's worth checking out (actually, pretty much all behind the scenes footage about stop motion movies like this are worth checking out tbh, but this is one that blew my mind a bit the first time I saw it)
- not sure if it's actually confirmed, but supposedly Mr Bobinsky's blue skin came from him helping to clean up radioactive waste (I think from Chernobyl?), the badge he wears on his chest also points towards this
- a popular theory (which is definitely not confirmed though) says that the well is actually another portal leading into the Other World, which would mean that Coraline practically gave the key back to the Other Mother in the end without realizing it. This is based on what Wybie says in the beginning about how people say that if you fall into the well you can see a sky full of stars in the middle of the day and the Other World having a nightsky full of stars even when Coraline comes over during the day
The mom is also kinda pissy in this movie due to an accident that happens just before they move in, and it's sort of implied that Coraline may have been at least partly responsible for what happened, hence her neckbrace.
Man Neil “scary pants” Gaiman is a dark magician , between this and Sandman my dude… he knows some esoteric arcana
27:22: You guys were so close. It's actually something else nefarious at play.
Its believed that at the end, coraline kinda throwed the key back to the Beldam, the theory is that theres more than one portal, and the well is one of them, thats why the Cat was able to disapear at the end, the other world is still there.
The mice that said not to go through the little door were the real mice, the ones in the other world had tiny buttons for eyes
If I had a nickle for every time Henry Selick's work got mistaken for Tim Burton, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't alot but it's weird that it happened twice.
Man, I'd love to see y'all react to more works based on Neil Gaiman's writing ( like The Sandman, American Gods, and Good Omens )