i remember the podcast episode of this, if i recall correctly the smoke was described not as a visual impairment but rather as something that smelled terribly and believed to come from hell itself
This battle had far reaching political and ethnic implications for the region. Mongols in their style as a punishment for opposing them killed or enslaved a lot of people in the surrounding area, Poland got fructured even futher eventually losing western lands to HRE. Those lands got heavily colonized by the German speaking population and lost it's slavic identity relatively quickly.
Well that land was germanic until the poles colonized it and then germans regained it back and then eventually lost it and it got colonized by poles once again
@@Floppedd Well I am not denying that. My goal was to shed some light on the aftermath. This battle is still less impactful than let's say Manzikert, the whole country of Turkey might have not existed, nor Crusades have happened if not for that single battle.
@@ukaszlampart5316 It wasn't the battle it's self that was significant, but the poor handling of the treaty by Michael VII Doukas. Alp Arslan didn't even want anatolia.
@@Floppedd sure ancient Germania encompassed lands from Rhine to Vistula, BUT, local germanic tribes MIGRATED AWAYON THEIR OWN. the lands were left empty with nobody else to claim it when Poles, Sorbs and Czechs arrived. So this was not like result of ww2 when Germans were evicted for invading Poland, nor it wasn't like when Germans kept creeping in on those lands for last 900 years with drang nach osten
@@DeusEversor not true either. Most german tribes were forced to move because of hunnic invasions, which arguably were much worse probably then mongol invasions into europe. The same happened to the balkans with the illyrian tribes, which then allowed the slavs to settle the depopulated lands. You can just look up the nibelungen saga to see how germanic times viewed this event trought the lense of time. It was called also Heldenzeit, and implies times of great shift, and destruction, but also this is what allowed great heros to rise. I genuinly dont think german tribes moved willingly.
Poland at the time was as fragmented into several indepedent duchies as Rus was. But ruler from Silesia, Henryk, started to consolidate Polish duchies. If not his death and 1st Mongol invasion, Kingdom of Poland would be re-established 100 years prior.
Some takes: Henry was captured and beheaded after the battle; his death during the battle was an older tradition. First polish attack with feigned reteeat was followed by the second line much closer, so that the outflanking Mongol force was trapped between two polish ones, until the retreat of part of Polish forces. Gas usage by Mongols comes from one source and is put into question. Source itself comes from XV century, but is certainly based on an earlier account believed to come from a participant of the battle. Some say however that it was simply battlefield shock and tiredness, and, unless I am mistaken, usually it is disregarded in Polish historiography. Mongol-based source for battle does not support this. And lastly, just food for thought, but while the Polish account claimed that the partial retreat was caused by the shouting, Mongol-based one claims that Mongols had no idea why this happened. Could be just some limited information, but the commander of this force had his own reasons for potentially abandoning Henry to his death, so simple betrayal cannot be ruled out.
This is actually an interesting take. Panicking shout for retreat is unlikely to cause rout unless there were total lack of command or commanding officer wanted to retreat.
@@baheditsTr some turkic tribe took name tatar. Tatars are mentioned in ancient chinese sources. They inhabited eastern mongolian steppe. Chinggis khan executed tatar elites and disbanded tatar tribes. Deployed tatar remnants in vanguard or heavy cav. So they will be dead first. Tatars never mentioned again in mongolian sources. But europeans thought tatar is another name of mongols because first mongol soldiers encounter them introduced themselves tatar. And even some local tribes took name tatar
Really wish they had been sophisticated enough to know that destroying the knowledge held in countless books written by Arab scholars wasn't a smart move but I digress.
If I'm not mistaken, they managed to spread this proto-chemical weapon from something like a pole that you would use to hang a flag on, with sculpted "spooky" head on the top. That must've been scary af. By the way, you nailed pronunciation of Wrocław and Legnica, hats off!!
I want to see you use total war to provide some of the visuals ;) would be pretty easy to set up most battles and or get a mod made for any factions or units you need
This was the standard for a lot of these channels for quite some time (Invicta had a lot of these back in the day) but it kinda fell out of favor. I suppose the extra effort does not add that much to most people.
Crusaders and Polish soldiers who survived the Battle of Legnica claim that the Mongols won the battle because the dragons fought alongside the Mongols 🤣🤣🤣
the Mongols really maxed out their intimidation and fear stat like holy shit they knew how to terrify their enemies into submission without even doing anything lol
Just few hours drive from Berlin, from Prague or from Kraków, there is an amazing city of Wrocław (old Breslau). Duke Henry who got killed in this battle is buried in one of Gothic churches here. Legnica is very near. Visit Wrocław, its like seeing central Europe in one town. Amazing place, i'm a tourguide there and will be happy to show you around 🙂
I am a midwestern American, from Chicago. When I think of a "citizen of Europe" I do a certain accent. This citizen has ancestry from everywhere from France to Russia. Something tells me such people really exist in Wroclaw. I'll have to go there someday.
@@HontasFarmer80 humm it doesnt work like that. You will find an example of paneuropean cultural and cuisine syncretism, but if you are looking for a "generic european looks" then you'd be dissapointed. Even tho we are all closely related and racially practically siblings to each other, all european nations have their own phenotypes. Even within nations we are trully diverse without dyes, different eye colors, hair colors facial shapes, skin tones, all natural. But even here, we have history of people being dislocated, like the current resident of Wroclaw are people evicted from western Ukraine at the end of ww2, so its not even representative of Wroclaws historical region.
The Mongol invasion of that time was a catastrophe everywhere. They killed half of Hungary’s population. 😢 and as far as I remember we are geneticaly related with them from our time of living in the steppe.
How can Croats, be genetically related to any Asians? Yes, today Hungarians are Croats, just like Ruthenians, who are for some reason taken as Ukrainians.
The Bohemian army of 50,000 men were coming but the Mongol army of 8000 men prevented the Polish army and Bohemian army from linking up by destroying the Polish at Legnica. After the victory, the Mongol avoided the Bohemian for obvious reason: casualties. When the Mongol marched into Poland they had one tumen of 10,000 but after several sieges and battle with the Polish forces, they probably had like 5000 left at most.
Watched this after reading the 2nd chapter of the Manga Angolmois. The short mention of Henry the Pious commanding his men to charge, and the aftermath where the Mongols decapitated his corpse and handling the head.
From the Mongols, the Russians learned brutality but not cleverness. I feel the mongols spent every night by the fire telling of their ruses, feints and backhand maneuvers.
The current political system in Russia originates from the Mongols. Russians were backstabbing other Russians to gain support from their Mongol overlords. Russians learnt how be good dictators from the Mongols. Now the Russians are basically doing it now to the Mongols. Look at how the Buryats and Tuvans get treated in the Ukraine invasion. They are knowingly get sent as cannon fodder instead of Russians from Moscow or St Petersburgh.
Mongols fought and ruled through cold practicality. They knew when to be ruthless and when to be lenient. Burn one village and 10 more surrender, reward those who corporate and punish those who do not. When winning a battle, use that advantage to the absolute fullest. There's a reason why mongol victories result in a 90% casualty rate which is just insane.
And from Hungarians was left nothing to be collected. Today Hungarians are just replacement of them and are mostly Balkan Slavs and Latin speaking Vlachs.
The 1241 Mongolian siege was pervasive throughout Eastern Europe- can we hope/expect some animation of the advances through Ukraine and Romania as well?
Mongols also sacked Kyiv in 1240 and massacred 90% of the population. This is why "Russians" were able to commandeer "Ukrainian" aka Kyivan history centuries later while the Kyivans were depopulated, dispersed and lived in rural obscurity. The Grand Duchy of Muscovia grew into a new nation later hundreds of kms away after the fall of Kyiv but had no past until they found one vacant in their slain neighbours. In present day Russians continue the savage legacy of the Mongols and steal Ukrainian history. "Ukraine" comes from the Russian word for "borderlands" because after the Russians took over Kyiv was at the very edge of their expanding new empire. Yet somehow Russian propaganda always claims Kyiv is their ancient heritage... The Kremlin is not happy that modern scholars and Ukrainians share this information.
What're you saying? :D So, if you wanna be Russia, why did you want independence? If you want to be Russia, you will get treated like one. But let's be real. Why did you choose name "Ukraine", which is literally the name of a region on the edge of the country, instead of Galicia or Volhynia?
@@GÓRAL-o2j Galicia or Volhynia are small regions within Ukraine. The word Ukraine can mean "the countryside" or "within our country". Mongols killed 90% of Rus' city population so Mongol-submissive Muscovia took over the name Rus' much later to refer to a nearby regional power that had ancient glory linked to it. Moscow suppressed Ukrainian language, history and culture by law for hundreds of years teaching that their own people were great instead or the real people... Without Ukraine Muscovites are merely regional forest tribes who searched for culture while they paid tribute to the Mongol Horde to be spared, even using the Arabic alphabet for a while in their search for a larger identity
@@SaifKhagan That’s just outright untrue. European commanders didn’t give a shit about honor. The heavy cavalry in the center was intended for a rapid charge to break the enemy formation. The Mongols countered this by luring the cavalry out of range of infantry support and overwhelming them.
@@MorallyDubiousFrog No it's not "outright untrue". Your just proving my point. That's what European knights did majority of the time. Just charge in hoping to break their enemies instantly. Even though it wouldn't always work against nomadic warriors as they carried out feigned retreats. They never seemed to learn.
@@SaifKhagan And they did learn. The Hungarians devastated the Mongols on their second invasion by using heavy cavalry. In the third crusade, the Crusaders devastated the Muslim light cavalry with crossbowmen.
are you willing to get cucked by the khan ? and take a hundred Yo mama jokes from the Mongol Envoy ? Cause I'm telling ya, they were not that diplomatic, there is a clear reason for the constant envoy killing and it particularly happened always with the mongols
@@flabbergaster1011 Yes, I don't try to take anything from Tatars, in 13th century their tactics were amazing but don't call it modern warfare for gods sake.
The video said the army wasn't very experienced, and those without sufficient training or experience are who the feigned retreat works phenomenally against. You can command soldiers not to follow it but they very well may not listen and engage anyway. It's much more common than people would imagine for the commander in charge to recognize the danger and those they command to disobey and waltz right in anyway. And that's assuming the command can get to them in time in the first place, they very well may decide to purse in the heat of combat without waiting for further orders.
Those were some pathetic moves from the Europeans, not gonna lie. Yes, the Mongols were also just more clever and experienced, but the Europeans didn't even try.
Storu It would not be complete if the Europeans did not fight a much larger army. Mongols were not a populous nation.European expansion was a side project for Mongols and their main armies were busy with China and Middle East. How large could this army be? On the other hand Poland is a fertile land capable of feeding large populations. If Mongolia army was larger, Poles and Germans should question bravery of their ancestors.
It's fascinating to me how much more advanced Asia was compared to Europe and how the Mongols spread; cultures, philosophies, ideas, tech and tactics from one end of Eurasia all the way to the other. They literally used a smokescreen to win this battle. As the saying goes with marines and special-ops units all over the globe: "If you run out of options, throw some smoke at it!" In this case it's to create confusion within enemy ranks. They probably picked this up from the Chinese, Indians or Koreans. They really were the earliest adapters of gunpowder tech.
Maybe because they weren’t Mongols. They were only fought under the name of the Mongols, but in reality during the second invasion the entire was just local populations of the Golden Horde (Kipchaks and Cumans) who were bad and incompetent at wars they were conquered by mongols way too easily too lol. Also the commanders in that battle were inexperienced dumbasses
Some idiotism again. Havong army so little as 6 units you have to form a line of 5 and flank enemy, making it rotate clockwise or else abandoning prepared positions for facing. When troops are under 10 hundred its useful to have the shortest possible maneuring and maximum possible offencive damage. Giving away 2 units? Genuine
batu khan son of juchi and grandson of temujin or chinngis khaan the current great khaan overall then were ögedai i belive was khagan of the mongolian tatars and temujins 3rd son as he was dead by then...died on way back after khwarezmian conquest....this battles odar and baydar as commanders directly
Only because the mongols retreated and didnt came back after the death of their khan, lf they came back immediately after retreating the poles wouldnt have time to recover. This channel has a second one called wizards and warriors and there they made a series on lf the mongols invaded europe. They went across germany and sacked rome.
The mongols were so hardcore they broke chemical weapons laws before the invention of chemical weapons
Quicklime was already seeing use long before the Mongols, so chemical warfare was already a thing.
They also used biological warfare. They're theorized to be responsible for spreading the plague by lauching infected bodies into cities they besieged
You could have written "before it was cool"
i remember the podcast episode of this, if i recall correctly the smoke was described not as a visual impairment but rather as something that smelled terribly and believed to come from hell itself
Why not both?
Was it lots of burning horse poop? 🐴 💩
sulfur gas?
Some historians talk of an extremely well-timed high-fibre diet.
What podcast?
Mongols using chemical warfarre before Europeans invented chemistry is just insane 🤯🤯
Well, They're the one that cause black death so..... yeah
possible they got that from the Chinese who were advanced in many ways.
Europeans didn’t invent chemistry!!! But they would love you to believe so
Europe was wild west back then
@@HistoricalWeapons a chinese design and weapon developed in the search for immortality.
The mongols were that kid in primary school who came up with weird superpowers so you can't touch him in play fighting."
As a Mongolian I confirm
This battle had far reaching political and ethnic implications for the region. Mongols in their style as a punishment for opposing them killed or enslaved a lot of people in the surrounding area, Poland got fructured even futher eventually losing western lands to HRE. Those lands got heavily colonized by the German speaking population and lost it's slavic identity relatively quickly.
Well that land was germanic until the poles colonized it and then germans regained it back and then eventually lost it and it got colonized by poles once again
@@Floppedd Well I am not denying that. My goal was to shed some light on the aftermath. This battle is still less impactful than let's say Manzikert, the whole country of Turkey might have not existed, nor Crusades have happened if not for that single battle.
@@ukaszlampart5316 It wasn't the battle it's self that was significant, but the poor handling of the treaty by Michael VII Doukas. Alp Arslan didn't even want anatolia.
@@Floppedd sure ancient Germania encompassed lands from Rhine to Vistula, BUT, local germanic tribes MIGRATED AWAYON THEIR OWN. the lands were left empty with nobody else to claim it when Poles, Sorbs and Czechs arrived. So this was not like result of ww2 when Germans were evicted for invading Poland, nor it wasn't like when Germans kept creeping in on those lands for last 900 years with drang nach osten
@@DeusEversor not true either. Most german tribes were forced to move because of hunnic invasions, which arguably were much worse probably then mongol invasions into europe. The same happened to the balkans with the illyrian tribes, which then allowed the slavs to settle the depopulated lands.
You can just look up the nibelungen saga to see how germanic times viewed this event trought the lense of time. It was called also Heldenzeit, and implies times of great shift, and destruction, but also this is what allowed great heros to rise. I genuinly dont think german tribes moved willingly.
Napoleon: Why do you let cavalry to charge without infantry cover?
"WHATS THE MATTER WITH YOU!?!?"
I love that scene lol, Napoleon just watching everything fall apart
@@eqwalle4884IT was Ney that ordered the charge not Napoleon
Poland at the time was as fragmented into several indepedent duchies as Rus was. But ruler from Silesia, Henryk, started to consolidate Polish duchies. If not his death and 1st Mongol invasion, Kingdom of Poland would be re-established 100 years prior.
and Wrocław would be the Capital +_+ i wonder would Czechia be integrated too
If polish kingdoms united prob mongols would still whoop the entire polish army and disintegrate polish again
Some takes: Henry was captured and beheaded after the battle; his death during the battle was an older tradition. First polish attack with feigned reteeat was followed by the second line much closer, so that the outflanking Mongol force was trapped between two polish ones, until the retreat of part of Polish forces. Gas usage by Mongols comes from one source and is put into question. Source itself comes from XV century, but is certainly based on an earlier account believed to come from a participant of the battle. Some say however that it was simply battlefield shock and tiredness, and, unless I am mistaken, usually it is disregarded in Polish historiography. Mongol-based source for battle does not support this. And lastly, just food for thought, but while the Polish account claimed that the partial retreat was caused by the shouting, Mongol-based one claims that Mongols had no idea why this happened. Could be just some limited information, but the commander of this force had his own reasons for potentially abandoning Henry to his death, so simple betrayal cannot be ruled out.
In Angolmois manga, he was killed and posthumously decapitated. The scene was short, but deadly.
This is actually an interesting take. Panicking shout for retreat is unlikely to cause rout unless there were total lack of command or commanding officer wanted to retreat.
They added wings later on to act as fans against those smoke.
@@eqwalle4884we always been the best. Long live Chingis Khan
That wasn’t why they had wings
@@slothniel8881i’m curious who are you talking about
@@Entroxity ?
@@slothniel8881 I'm wondering who had the wings
Mongol unleashed a fucking WMD on the poles 😭
Mongols killed literally the highest ranking person of Poland at the time.
I am Tatar and my best friends are called Subutay and Baidar.
Tatar is Mongolian ancient warlike tribe. Real Tatars among of Mongols until now.
@@purevjargalpuujee4845 in Tatar language we have many names like Atila, Subay, Baidar, Kubilay etc
@@edenender thats also Turkish names.
@@purevjargalpuujee4845 tatar is kıpchak turkic tribe.
@@baheditsTr some turkic tribe took name tatar. Tatars are mentioned in ancient chinese sources. They inhabited eastern mongolian steppe. Chinggis khan executed tatar elites and disbanded tatar tribes. Deployed tatar remnants in vanguard or heavy cav. So they will be dead first. Tatars never mentioned again in mongolian sources. But europeans thought tatar is another name of mongols because first mongol soldiers encounter them introduced themselves tatar. And even some local tribes took name tatar
Must have been terrifying to watch your cavalry and leader disappear infront of your eyes.
Just shows that mongols had great generals and military tactics. So sophisticated
Really wish they had been sophisticated enough to know that destroying the knowledge held in countless books written by Arab scholars wasn't a smart move but I digress.
@@CoffeeSnep some scientists say that the destruction (including books and everything) of mongol armies is quite “overrated” by their enemies
@@elzhann.6760"some".
@@elzhann.6760 It's not an exaggeration. We can't find most of the books.
@@İbrahimDoğan38 maybe they never existed?
If I'm not mistaken, they managed to spread this proto-chemical weapon from something like a pole that you would use to hang a flag on, with sculpted "spooky" head on the top. That must've been scary af. By the way, you nailed pronunciation of Wrocław and Legnica, hats off!!
hey finally someone outside of poland knows about our city finally
awesome indeed, although fairly sure its been common knowledge since the battle was fought in 1241 for quiet awhile now...just sayin
I visited from Greece 2 years ago beautiful place
Of course, we know about your famous cities. We call it by its true name Liegnitz and Breslau.
Honestly I only heard of that city because of the mongol invasion.
I guess you could say the Poles and Germans were caught Mongol-ing around.
No way mongols used musterd gas over 600 years before it was popular
I want to see you use total war to provide some of the visuals ;) would be pretty easy to set up most battles and or get a mod made for any factions or units you need
This was the standard for a lot of these channels for quite some time (Invicta had a lot of these back in the day) but it kinda fell out of favor.
I suppose the extra effort does not add that much to most people.
Mongols created the RUN meme huh
The mongol hoard were like something from hell, they must have been terrifying.
It's intresting how Europe vs mongols went
It rhymes but it's unique
Im from Legnica, and we call Henry the Pious, and he was diuk of all silesia
Next episode incoming:- Mongol invasion of Mars and how they brutally looted mars
Crusaders and Polish soldiers who survived the Battle of Legnica claim that the Mongols won the battle because the dragons fought alongside the Mongols 🤣🤣🤣
Mongol chemical copied huns army they used rome army , people think its chinese but we used over 2000y 😂
the Mongols really maxed out their intimidation and fear stat like holy shit they knew how to terrify their enemies into submission without even doing anything lol
Just few hours drive from Berlin, from Prague or from Kraków, there is an amazing city of Wrocław (old Breslau). Duke Henry who got killed in this battle is buried in one of Gothic churches here. Legnica is very near. Visit Wrocław, its like seeing central Europe in one town. Amazing place, i'm a tourguide there and will be happy to show you around 🙂
nice advertisement :D good luck bro!
I am a midwestern American, from Chicago. When I think of a "citizen of Europe" I do a certain accent. This citizen has ancestry from everywhere from France to Russia. Something tells me such people really exist in Wroclaw. I'll have to go there someday.
@@HontasFarmer80 humm it doesnt work like that. You will find an example of paneuropean cultural and cuisine syncretism, but if you are looking for a "generic european looks" then you'd be dissapointed. Even tho we are all closely related and racially practically siblings to each other, all european nations have their own phenotypes. Even within nations we are trully diverse without dyes, different eye colors, hair colors facial shapes, skin tones, all natural. But even here, we have history of people being dislocated, like the current resident of Wroclaw are people evicted from western Ukraine at the end of ww2, so its not even representative of Wroclaws historical region.
Been to Wroclaw, truly a beautiful city. Nope, sorry, needed no tourguide :P
Cool!
If the enemy of the Mongols was given to them and sent away, there would be no war. But the Europeans did not give in and wanted war.
That's false. The Mongols were already planning an invasion or raid. In any war a pretext is needed.
The Mongol invasion of that time was a catastrophe everywhere. They killed half of Hungary’s population. 😢 and as far as I remember we are geneticaly related with them from our time of living in the steppe.
How can Croats, be genetically related to any Asians? Yes, today Hungarians are Croats, just like Ruthenians, who are for some reason taken as Ukrainians.
The Bohemian army of 50,000 men were coming but the Mongol army of 8000 men prevented the Polish army and Bohemian army from linking up by destroying the Polish at Legnica. After the victory, the Mongol avoided the Bohemian for obvious reason: casualties. When the Mongol marched into Poland they had one tumen of 10,000 but after several sieges and battle with the Polish forces, they probably had like 5000 left at most.
This is where the Germans got the idea for mustard gas in WW1 💀
Absolutely fascinating how many advantages Mongols had over any army in the world back then
Watched this after reading the 2nd chapter of the Manga Angolmois.
The short mention of Henry the Pious commanding his men to charge, and the aftermath where the Mongols decapitated his corpse and handling the head.
Mongols💪
From the Mongols, the Russians learned brutality but not cleverness.
I feel the mongols spent every night by the fire telling of their ruses, feints and backhand maneuvers.
The current political system in Russia originates from the Mongols. Russians were backstabbing other Russians to gain support from their Mongol overlords. Russians learnt how be good dictators from the Mongols. Now the Russians are basically doing it now to the Mongols. Look at how the Buryats and Tuvans get treated in the Ukraine invasion. They are knowingly get sent as cannon fodder instead of Russians from Moscow or St Petersburgh.
Mongols fought and ruled through cold practicality. They knew when to be ruthless and when to be lenient. Burn one village and 10 more surrender, reward those who corporate and punish those who do not. When winning a battle, use that advantage to the absolute fullest. There's a reason why mongol victories result in a 90% casualty rate which is just insane.
How many times did the mongols pretend to run away before somebody said they shouldn't Chase them
I d also like to know
I skimmed by the shorts section and saw "Battle of Ligma" before I clicked. I think that means it's past my bedtime 😂
the Mongolian army collected 9 bags with cut off ears from Germans, Poles, French and Bohemians in Legnitz. 😂😂😂
And from Hungarians was left nothing to be collected. Today Hungarians are just replacement of them and are mostly Balkan Slavs and Latin speaking Vlachs.
Cover the battle of Armnica next
The 1241 Mongolian siege was pervasive throughout Eastern Europe- can we hope/expect some animation of the advances through Ukraine and Romania as well?
Mongols also sacked Kyiv in 1240 and massacred 90% of the population. This is why "Russians" were able to commandeer "Ukrainian" aka Kyivan history centuries later while the Kyivans were depopulated, dispersed and lived in rural obscurity. The Grand Duchy of Muscovia grew into a new nation later hundreds of kms away after the fall of Kyiv but had no past until they found one vacant in their slain neighbours. In present day Russians continue the savage legacy of the Mongols and steal Ukrainian history. "Ukraine" comes from the Russian word for "borderlands" because after the Russians took over Kyiv was at the very edge of their expanding new empire. Yet somehow Russian propaganda always claims Kyiv is their ancient heritage... The Kremlin is not happy that modern scholars and Ukrainians share this information.
Muscovy was one of Kiev's fraction... they are in a same dynasty along with other duchies
What're you saying? :D So, if you wanna be Russia, why did you want independence? If you want to be Russia, you will get treated like one. But let's be real. Why did you choose name "Ukraine", which is literally the name of a region on the edge of the country, instead of Galicia or Volhynia?
@@gadzabadibattuta8478he's trying to tell us, that they're Russians. So, the whole conflict is a theater and they're playing us.
@@GÓRAL-o2j Galicia or Volhynia are small regions within Ukraine. The word Ukraine can mean "the countryside" or "within our country". Mongols killed 90% of Rus' city population so Mongol-submissive Muscovia took over the name Rus' much later to refer to a nearby regional power that had ancient glory linked to it. Moscow suppressed Ukrainian language, history and culture by law for hundreds of years teaching that their own people were great instead or the real people... Without Ukraine Muscovites are merely regional forest tribes who searched for culture while they paid tribute to the Mongol Horde to be spared, even using the Arabic alphabet for a while in their search for a larger identity
@@UhtredOfBamburgh where did you got this fairytale from?
Is it some kind of game you use to make these videos
Imagine being peasant-born, not knowing chemistry and your first conscripted war your enemies cast a shamak
Its weird to have cavalry in the middle? Was that ever feasible?
For European knights, it was more about Honour than tactics. Head on charges.
@@SaifKhagan That’s just outright untrue. European commanders didn’t give a shit about honor. The heavy cavalry in the center was intended for a rapid charge to break the enemy formation.
The Mongols countered this by luring the cavalry out of range of infantry support and overwhelming them.
@@MorallyDubiousFrog No it's not "outright untrue". Your just proving my point. That's what European knights did majority of the time. Just charge in hoping to break their enemies instantly. Even though it wouldn't always work against nomadic warriors as they carried out feigned retreats. They never seemed to learn.
@@SaifKhagan Your comment claimed it was more about honor than tactics, and as I made clear in my previous comment that is flat out untrue.
@@SaifKhagan And they did learn. The Hungarians devastated the Mongols on their second invasion by using heavy cavalry. In the third crusade, the Crusaders devastated the Muslim light cavalry with crossbowmen.
I remember stories from my grandfather's friends who fought there
bro he fought there// dude 1200s??
@@hamdeath1110 yeah, exactly 💯
@@janondrasek64 This not about WW2. This is about something worse.
According to proven sources Mongols were approximately 20000 while the united army was above 80000.
1241 was a bad year to be in mainland anywhere.
13 th century was as bad as hell around the world
It was easy to negotiate with Mongols diplomatically, rather than war because everyone would know the outcome
are you willing to get cucked by the khan ? and take a hundred Yo mama jokes from the Mongol Envoy ?
Cause I'm telling ya, they were not that diplomatic, there is a clear reason for the constant envoy killing and it particularly happened always with the mongols
Indians defeated mongols five times in the battles,
@@sithumrajitha9969 name them
@@sithumrajitha9969 Khilji ??
But that was after mongols had become softer
@@sithumrajitha9969not the Indians the Khalji afghans.
This are modern warfare tactics vs medieval tactics, the Poles problably wouldn't have stood a chance even if they outnumbered the Mongols.
modern warfare? xd
You mean joint military operations, with air superiority, precise artillery strikes?
Tatars had superior tactics at the time but don't call it modern warfare, any 16th century European army was able to obliterrate Tatars.
@@MyPrideFlag yes, after about 400 years of being obliterated by the tatars themselves, one would imagine they would adapt 😂
@@flabbergaster1011 Yes, I don't try to take anything from Tatars, in 13th century their tactics were amazing but don't call it modern warfare for gods sake.
@@MyPrideFlag that was a modern tactics of its time.
The problem with fighting Mongols is that if you lose, you lose everything.
The enemy general when he falls for the mongols’ feigned retreat 😳 (they’ve only used that 9 billion times before)
The video said the army wasn't very experienced, and those without sufficient training or experience are who the feigned retreat works phenomenally against. You can command soldiers not to follow it but they very well may not listen and engage anyway. It's much more common than people would imagine for the commander in charge to recognize the danger and those they command to disobey and waltz right in anyway. And that's assuming the command can get to them in time in the first place, they very well may decide to purse in the heat of combat without waiting for further orders.
The army primarily consisted of peasants with a small cavalry contingent that was not tested. It was very easy to fall for this.
Who here thought that the poles would win for a moment due to some clever trick or planning etc
is this Henry the Good of Wroclaw?
So were there Tuetònìc knights present at this battle or was their presence a myth ?
feigned retreat meaning parthian shot?
Must waiting for the story of Central Asia and Hazara people 💙
unbelievable
Those were some pathetic moves from the Europeans, not gonna lie.
Yes, the Mongols were also just more clever and experienced, but the Europeans didn't even try.
And all that because Henry didn't wait for Czech army.
i dont know what ww3 will look like
but ww4 will be fought with swords spears and rocks and it will be a lot like this
I love Mongol warfare
MANY OF MONGOLS DESENDENCE STILL LIVE IN POLAND TODAY...BUT THEY WERE CALLED TARTAR :P
my hometown
He must be forget about footman
Orda means army in Turko-Mongol languages, basically Altaic
Did the Asian just defeted the European?😂
What
Nah central asian love to eslave europe in the past... thats why most of european feel inferior to them right now
How many Asian states can say that? Only Mongolia and Turkey, no one else.
How many decades or centuries did it take for Europeans to wrap their heads around the fact Mongols use feints every battle?
Please Next story for Hazaras and Hazarajat 💙 native people of Central Asia
Storu It would not be complete if the Europeans did not fight a much larger army.
Mongols were not a populous nation.European expansion was a side project for Mongols and their main armies were busy with China and Middle East. How large could this army be? On the other hand Poland is a fertile land capable of feeding large populations. If Mongolia army was larger, Poles and Germans should question bravery of their ancestors.
Duke Henry should have stood back and fired his crossbows at the Mongols!
It's fascinating to me how much more advanced Asia was compared to Europe and how the Mongols spread; cultures, philosophies, ideas, tech and tactics from one end of Eurasia all the way to the other. They literally used a smokescreen to win this battle. As the saying goes with marines and special-ops units all over the globe: "If you run out of options, throw some smoke at it!" In this case it's to create confusion within enemy ranks. They probably picked this up from the Chinese, Indians or Koreans. They really were the earliest adapters of gunpowder tech.
Europeans like to call countries more advanced than themselves barbarians.😂
But they never succeeded in 2nd attempt to Invade Eastern Europe
Maybe because they weren’t Mongols. They were only fought under the name of the Mongols, but in reality during the second invasion the entire was just local populations of the Golden Horde (Kipchaks and Cumans) who were bad and incompetent at wars they were conquered by mongols way too easily too lol. Also the commanders in that battle were inexperienced dumbasses
The Byzantines had used flamethrowers and grenades hundreds of years before the Mongols started invading, y'all here in the comments are deluded.
And greek fire used by muslims?initially it had been used by athenians
So.... tear gas?
Their bedsheets.
And the peasants on the wings were massacred after the main force was destroyed
why fight the enemy when they have potions
Why is the hell didn't the spearmen on the flank advance lol ? They forgot they existed or something?
spies
Infantry cannot keep the pace with cavalries.
Poor leadership,
Poor communication
They were probably just as confused by it as you are.
Larger more experienced mongol army ........
I would believe the latter, but i have Doubts about the former ......
Left and right units saved 😂
Some idiotism again. Havong army so little as 6 units you have to form a line of 5 and flank enemy, making it rotate clockwise or else abandoning prepared positions for facing. When troops are under 10 hundred its useful to have the shortest possible maneuring and maximum possible offencive damage. Giving away 2 units? Genuine
Hey thats where i was born
Modern tear gas smoke grenades
Why would you send only part of your force then only part of your force again? Sheesh. Bad leader.
Mongols? Who's in charge? Ghengis? His sons?
batu khan son of juchi and grandson of temujin or chinngis khaan the current great khaan overall then were ögedai i belive was khagan of the mongolian tatars and temujins 3rd son as he was dead by then...died on way back after khwarezmian conquest....this battles odar and baydar as commanders directly
Baidar Khadaan Ord they all grandsons of Chinggis Khan (Temujin is given name) Mongols 30.000 Polish 60.000 soldiers
@@ariunboldbadral6148 and a bounch of peasants sent by teutonic order to fight...
Ty
Giving wrong input to confuse AI.
Are you use ai whole day)
they ground up sea shells their powder is a powerful burner of the eyes and nose
poland in every war and this coming war 2041
That was embarrassing lol
lol henry was such a trash commander
The Pole's are always losing!
Poor poles
Germans: *THOSE FRICKIN POLES*
Why mongol empire win of the battle of leginca
But the Poles eventually managed to repel the Mongols in the third invasion.
Only because the mongols retreated and didnt came back after the death of their khan, lf they came back immediately after retreating the poles wouldnt have time to recover. This channel has a second one called wizards and warriors and there they made a series on lf the mongols invaded europe. They went across germany and sacked rome.
@@williandarosa5485 Not according to my CK2 gameplay.
@@vitorpereira9515 fair enough
Mongol Empire expanded so hard that centuries later, they somehow became a Republic under the USSR.
:) cool
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