fr, its 50/50 that you gonna die, or you gonna somehow tank the hit and still live 💀, also both horror and littlehorror are the only characters to still go over negative stamina (can still attack)
@@dimondcreeper0 lmao 💀, but ngl... i hope they nerf or re-balance the cleaver, its way too strong and its so braindead... im starting to hate that weapon already because: 1. i cannot stand still or i risk taking 15 stam dmg (its so annoying that its a guarantee loss), last time i played fresh sans, i almost died with 20 stam left, that's how busted is that weapon bro... (i only won because of the disco attack) 2. auto-aim attack..., like who asked for that bruh 💀, its a cool attack don't get me wrong but like cmon... :/, it does not need that lmao, make it aimable instead and remove the auto-aim towards sans, and maybe give it a cooldown at the start to nerf a bit the rushing (i had a guy literally half way into the map and the match just barely started and he already was near me 💀) 3. braindead M1 spam - combine it with bravery you are dead, then comes sever and you get even MORE braindead M1 spam... 4. characters that cannot deal with cleaver will 100% lose, and its kinda true :/, HP characters have a death sentence againts cleavers, and i feel bad for HP based characters 💀 and that bug will probably get fixed some day lol (so i guess use it while it still exists 💀, i do not condone bug abusing tho, but you do you) i feel like its a cool weapon, but its way too strong rn, hopefully they re-balance it and make it way less braindead, then the weapon is better.
I'll rework horror here. I'll keep his core mechanics like no stamina drain but also a invisible health bar. And inf stamina And a hunger mechanic that's my rules I'll rework it rn. Horrortale sans. : 144 Wins. There are things I might remove from his moveset to swap out with better ones but there are ones I'll keep. Here are the changes. I'll just say it. Horror doesn't need much of changes. But here are my changes. Horror would have a cleaver instead of a axe. (Because in canon he only has a cleaver.) And his throw axe could become like revenge's throw bone move where you need to pick up your cleaver to able to use your weapon related moves. ----------------------‐----‐----------‐---------------------- Now I have a nerf for current cleaver. It's the sever move. Aka the move that makes you able to cut your arm off. Here is my nerf to that. You won't be able to regrow aka the move that you use to regrow your arm because I don't think the regrow move makes sense. So here is my idea for cleaver. You won't be able to regrow your arm but Also your m1 will be slower compared to current 1 arm mode. That's it.
so horror is supposed to only have an cleaver?, what about the axe?? throwable cleaver would be funny (i wonder where he has all those axes from when he yeets them) the cleaver is going to get nerfed again hopefully, they need to make it less braindead and give it a hefty nerf lol, because it is very annoying to fight againts rn (literally bone 2.0 before it got nuked) just rush a weak sans and he wont win at all as the cleaver kills them very fast, especially hp characters, those stand no chance 💀 M1 spam needs a nerf (especially with bravery) its so braindead its not even funny lmao (just m1 spam and ez win) mutilate needs some kind of a nerf and remove the auto-aim attack, make it aimable instead (by youself, not the weapon giving you unfair aimbot) by auto-aim, i mean like, it automatically dashes into sans when you're close enough to him (without even looking sometimes), its also hard to predict it as its literally instant (and it does 15 dmg if you stand still...) butcher is fine, nothing wrong about it, its like headdog from horror's axe, but without the dash sever could use a nerf too but i haven't used it yet, but i've seen from other people how they used it, its super braindead M1 spam but 10x on crack (combine with bravery, hp characters get wiped in secounds) overall the cleaver could be fun but the weapon needs a re-balance, it is currently busted and braindead, just make it less braindead and the weapon becomes better
Ngl cleaver is that one weapon that while it does need a nerf also is kinda balanced in such a way that makes it inconsistent to use that’s why I don’t really care if cleaver get nerfed because it won’t be that bad.. (right?) like the only thing I would want them to Touch is sever and butcher other then that Idrc about cleaver
the cleaver is going to get nerfed at some point (hopefully) they made it way too op on release, and it still needs a hefty nerf for sure, and its just a braindead weapon that you only spam mutilate and m1 and its a guarantee win for the cleaver user, and there are some characters that can't do much againts it 💀 (despite having a debuff per cleaver in the round, aka the more cleavers the more dmg they take, like backbone has, but it loses resistance instead) its literally bone 2.0 but 10x more busted (as if bone wasn't annoying enought lmao), hopefully they rebalance it, it needs to be less braindead and actually a good weapon that doesn't need braindead tactics :/ it shreds hp characters like its nothing, it can shred stamina based characters also, but it depends on what character - if its a weak character yea gl surviving that, but if its an op character, it might have a chance of winning, but you can still get shreded to pieces, also you can't really stand still to regain stamina back because you will just get shreded (its dumb lol) also tell me what they should touch on sever and butcher, cuz sever has a loooong cooldown before you can use it, and you become a machine slayer, as for butcher is just a slash attack but its a balanced attack (maybe im wrong idk) M1 attack = they made m1 a spam attack, should get a nerf honestly, the spam is ridiculous, and make it less braindead (with bravery is the definition of spam) Mutilate = an auto-aim based attack, it might be the most annoying ability ever, it let's you dash into sans twice, and its so easy to run away with it too (depends on the sans), they should nerf this somehow, make it 1 use only, and maybe increase cooldown a bit (or make it so if you miss with it, it gets a even longer cooldown and you can not do it twice idk) this one definelly needs some kind of a nerf - and remove the auto-aim 💀, make it aimable by youself instead, then mutilate is better, but still needs a nerf lmao butcher = ehhh, i think this might be the only balanced ability ngl, that one i have no problem againts it, its like headdog from horror's axe, but without the dash attack, and i like it sever = lol, i haven't use it at all, but from what i've seen from it, it makes you into a SPAM GOD, the M1 gets a huge speed attack boost, and you literally become a shredding machine (especially with bravery), idk if this one needs a nerf, but i guess?, you kinda cannot escape from it (depends on the sans) but overall... the cleaver can be fun, but they made it too broken, and it needs to get re-balanced lol, and hopefully they make it less braindead (like how bone was before they finally nuked it from the game), and then the weapon will be better
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Horror is so hard to tell exactly how much stamina you have left considering it's just the slightly paler red bar underneath the hunger meter
fr, its 50/50 that you gonna die, or you gonna somehow tank the hit and still live 💀, also both horror and littlehorror are the only characters to still go over negative stamina (can still attack)
They were really axeing for it! The cleaver definitely needs a rework it's too op.
they sure did axe for it 😂, and naaa, it needs a re-balance, it just gotten a rework lmao (some stuff need to be nerfed fr and changed)
no no guys cleaver users falling through the floor is a balancing feature trust
lol fr, i've actually seen people dying to little sans and bad time sans phasing through the floor 😂, greatest feature ever fr fr
I’ve won multiple rounds on characters I have less experience on purely due to the cleavers glitching out the map it’s great
@@dimondcreeper0 lmao 💀, but ngl... i hope they nerf or re-balance the cleaver, its way too strong and its so braindead... im starting to hate that weapon already because:
1. i cannot stand still or i risk taking 15 stam dmg (its so annoying that its a guarantee loss), last time i played fresh sans, i almost died with 20 stam left, that's how busted is that weapon bro... (i only won because of the disco attack)
2. auto-aim attack..., like who asked for that bruh 💀, its a cool attack don't get me wrong but like cmon... :/, it does not need that lmao, make it aimable instead and remove the auto-aim towards sans, and maybe give it a cooldown at the start to nerf a bit the rushing (i had a guy literally half way into the map and the match just barely started and he already was near me 💀)
3. braindead M1 spam - combine it with bravery you are dead, then comes sever and you get even MORE braindead M1 spam...
4. characters that cannot deal with cleaver will 100% lose, and its kinda true :/, HP characters have a death sentence againts cleavers, and i feel bad for HP based characters 💀
and that bug will probably get fixed some day lol (so i guess use it while it still exists 💀, i do not condone bug abusing tho, but you do you)
i feel like its a cool weapon, but its way too strong rn, hopefully they re-balance it and make it way less braindead, then the weapon is better.
@ there’s no way they don’t change it due to the current backlash so I’m not too worried, just hoping they balance it before fixing that bug
@@dimondcreeper0 fr
Play on outer and horror if you want punish cleaver users (this what i learn from this update)
there are some OP characters that do counter cleaver
I'll rework horror here.
I'll keep his core mechanics like no stamina drain but also a invisible health bar. And inf stamina
And a hunger mechanic that's my rules I'll rework it rn.
Horrortale sans. : 144 Wins.
There are things I might remove from his moveset to swap out with better ones but there are ones I'll keep.
Here are the changes. I'll just say it. Horror doesn't need much of changes. But here are my changes.
Horror would have a cleaver instead of a axe. (Because in canon he only has a cleaver.)
And his throw axe could become like revenge's throw bone move where you need to pick up your cleaver to able to use your weapon related moves.
----------------------‐----‐----------‐----------------------
Now I have a nerf for current cleaver.
It's the sever move. Aka the move that makes you able to cut your arm off.
Here is my nerf to that. You won't be able to regrow aka the move that you use to regrow your arm because I don't think the regrow move makes sense.
So here is my idea for cleaver.
You won't be able to regrow your arm but Also your m1 will be slower compared to current 1 arm mode.
That's it.
so horror is supposed to only have an cleaver?, what about the axe??
throwable cleaver would be funny (i wonder where he has all those axes from when he yeets them)
the cleaver is going to get nerfed again hopefully, they need to make it less braindead and give it a hefty nerf lol, because it is very annoying to fight againts rn (literally bone 2.0 before it got nuked) just rush a weak sans and he wont win at all as the cleaver kills them very fast, especially hp characters, those stand no chance 💀
M1 spam needs a nerf (especially with bravery) its so braindead its not even funny lmao (just m1 spam and ez win)
mutilate needs some kind of a nerf and remove the auto-aim attack, make it aimable instead (by youself, not the weapon giving you unfair aimbot) by auto-aim, i mean like, it automatically dashes into sans when you're close enough to him (without even looking sometimes), its also hard to predict it as its literally instant (and it does 15 dmg if you stand still...)
butcher is fine, nothing wrong about it, its like headdog from horror's axe, but without the dash
sever could use a nerf too but i haven't used it yet, but i've seen from other people how they used it, its super braindead M1 spam but 10x on crack (combine with bravery, hp characters get wiped in secounds)
overall the cleaver could be fun but the weapon needs a re-balance, it is currently busted and braindead, just make it less braindead and the weapon becomes better
@CombineForce about the axe, in canon horror never used any weapon tho he held a cleaver once so I think that's his weapon of choice.
@CombineForce you should read the horrortale comics. They are fun.
@@SansINess53 ohhh ok
@@SansINess53 i dont really read books or comics lmao (im lazy), in 500 years maybe
Ngl cleaver is that one weapon that while it does need a nerf also is kinda balanced in such a way that makes it inconsistent to use that’s why I don’t really care if cleaver get nerfed because it won’t be that bad.. (right?) like the only thing I would want them to Touch is sever and butcher other then that Idrc about cleaver
the cleaver is going to get nerfed at some point (hopefully) they made it way too op on release, and it still needs a hefty nerf for sure, and its just a braindead weapon that you only spam mutilate and m1 and its a guarantee win for the cleaver user, and there are some characters that can't do much againts it 💀 (despite having a debuff per cleaver in the round, aka the more cleavers the more dmg they take, like backbone has, but it loses resistance instead) its literally bone 2.0 but 10x more busted (as if bone wasn't annoying enought lmao), hopefully they rebalance it, it needs to be less braindead and actually a good weapon that doesn't need braindead tactics :/
it shreds hp characters like its nothing, it can shred stamina based characters also, but it depends on what character - if its a weak character yea gl surviving that, but if its an op character, it might have a chance of winning, but you can still get shreded to pieces, also you can't really stand still to regain stamina back because you will just get shreded (its dumb lol)
also tell me what they should touch on sever and butcher, cuz sever has a loooong cooldown before you can use it, and you become a machine slayer, as for butcher is just a slash attack but its a balanced attack (maybe im wrong idk)
M1 attack = they made m1 a spam attack, should get a nerf honestly, the spam is ridiculous, and make it less braindead (with bravery is the definition of spam)
Mutilate = an auto-aim based attack, it might be the most annoying ability ever, it let's you dash into sans twice, and its so easy to run away with it too (depends on the sans), they should nerf this somehow, make it 1 use only, and maybe increase cooldown a bit (or make it so if you miss with it, it gets a even longer cooldown and you can not do it twice idk) this one definelly needs some kind of a nerf - and remove the auto-aim 💀, make it aimable by youself instead, then mutilate is better, but still needs a nerf lmao
butcher = ehhh, i think this might be the only balanced ability ngl, that one i have no problem againts it, its like headdog from horror's axe, but without the dash attack, and i like it
sever = lol, i haven't use it at all, but from what i've seen from it, it makes you into a SPAM GOD, the M1 gets a huge speed attack boost, and you literally become a shredding machine (especially with bravery), idk if this one needs a nerf, but i guess?, you kinda cannot escape from it (depends on the sans)
but overall... the cleaver can be fun, but they made it too broken, and it needs to get re-balanced lol, and hopefully they make it less braindead (like how bone was before they finally nuked it from the game), and then the weapon will be better
is maxing horror worth it?
yes, once you max him, he'll be stronger (and still busted despite being hard nerfed lol)
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