I'm not sure what you mean, but here is Yang Zhengduo (Yang Cheng Fu's son) performing the 13. th-cam.com/video/Xoj2gRCYAZY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8_SgS_dE9k9Fu1db
@@RickBarrettTCA I get what he means. He is saying that there are no "original 13 postures" in the actual system of Taiji quan. Knowledgable people have good reason to agree with him. In the lore surrounding the early popularization of Taijiquan, the "13 original postures" was just an oublique allusion to the theory of 5 steps (wubu) and the 8 gates (bafa). 5+8=13. It was still a time of secrets and withholding information. So the basic framework of Taijiquan theory was referenced, without being addressed directly. It's just coded language. So if you already know how taijiquan is supposed to work, then you understand what "13 postures" is supposed to refer to. If you don't know what they are referring to, then you are an outsider that doesn't need to know. Most people who know basic Taijiquan theory can recognize this, and consider the concept of there being a literal short "original" form of Taijiquan with just 13 postures to be an erroneous understanding of theory and history. The smallest, earliest version of the Taijiquan main set I've ever come across had no less than 60 named sequences. Presenting a literal "original 13 postures" old set feels like an appeal to "lost" or hidden knowledge that was never there in the first place. I don't want to invalidate what is being shown here. With the correct context, I think it still makes sense. But I am not a fan of the framing either. The story that Yang Fukui did literally inherit this short form from his Granduncle I can still rationalize. What was shown here just looks like the first 13 moves -- i.e. section 01 -- from the Yang style long set. Just with old fashioned flavor! it looks a lot like Wu style, but with more expression and room to breathe. Wu style tends to be done painfully small. So I definitely found what I saw to be refreshingly clean and sober looking. What I saw here was basically more or less exactly what I expected old Yang style to look like. You just never know these things exist until you stumble across them. If you showed this to me, and asked me to guess which school of Tai Chi it looked like it belonged to, old fashioned Yang style or old fashioned Wu style is what I would have guessed. Regardless of the school, most of the "essential" techniques in the Taijiquan system occur in the first section of the long form. Everything after that is either a variation with a name change, a direct repetition, or a move that helps flesh out the system, but is otherwise non-essential. So having an abbreviated set of "just the essentials" and calling it "the original system" is a bit of a stretch, but the 1st section is more or less the nucleus of the style, so it kinda makes sense in an overbearingly grandiose sort of way. All the same, "13 original postures" is a cursed phrase, born of half-truth and stinking of same double-speak that Wudang Tai Chi was born of. Half truths are only good for misleading. Call the set what it is, Yang Chengfu Old Style short set. That's plenty interesting in of itself. Just don't call it original, and don't call it 13. Those are usually red herrings and there are too many red flags and pitfalls with that notion and phrasing.
Keep your eyes on the active movement very nice to share this. Thank you
Very good performance. Full and with intention ! ❤
Thank you for posting this. I miss this man so much. Such a treasure, both.
Very nice! Thanks for sharing 🙏🏻
Thanks. His form quietly cranks up a lot of power in a few short movements.
This man has a beautiful and powerful central axis. Hung between heaven and earth. 👍
So true.
He taught my Tui Na classes at Pacific College of Oriental Medicine in NYC.
Master Yang is a rare treasure as a martial artist and a healer.
I've always found the original 13 to be of great use. Thank you so much for this beautiful demonstration.
Excellent thank you
You are very welcome
Nice video. I have an important question, the 13 postures is a ridge sequence from Yang Zhenduo right?
Yes
Kung Jian Bu postures seem to be very linear without the usual width of step - is this usual in this form? :)
Yes. It is long and narrow.
Dude is good
Long form was never meant to be shortened
Long and Short form but also Big and Small frame are often not understand by beginner and sometimes advanced students.
Maybe. Maybe not. I am not privy to the original intentions.
刁、定、更雙重 ！
This is not it. Bafawubu.
I'm not sure what you mean, but here is Yang Zhengduo (Yang Cheng Fu's son) performing the 13.
th-cam.com/video/Xoj2gRCYAZY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=8_SgS_dE9k9Fu1db
@@RickBarrettTCA I get what he means. He is saying that there are no "original 13 postures" in the actual system of Taiji quan. Knowledgable people have good reason to agree with him.
In the lore surrounding the early popularization of Taijiquan, the "13 original postures" was just an oublique allusion to the theory of 5 steps (wubu) and the 8 gates (bafa). 5+8=13. It was still a time of secrets and withholding information. So the basic framework of Taijiquan theory was referenced, without being addressed directly. It's just coded language. So if you already know how taijiquan is supposed to work, then you understand what "13 postures" is supposed to refer to. If you don't know what they are referring to, then you are an outsider that doesn't need to know.
Most people who know basic Taijiquan theory can recognize this, and consider the concept of there being a literal short "original" form of Taijiquan with just 13 postures to be an erroneous understanding of theory and history. The smallest, earliest version of the Taijiquan main set I've ever come across had no less than 60 named sequences.
Presenting a literal "original 13 postures" old set feels like an appeal to "lost" or hidden knowledge that was never there in the first place. I don't want to invalidate what is being shown here. With the correct context, I think it still makes sense. But I am not a fan of the framing either.
The story that Yang Fukui did literally inherit this short form from his Granduncle I can still rationalize. What was shown here just looks like the first 13 moves -- i.e. section 01 -- from the Yang style long set. Just with old fashioned flavor! it looks a lot like Wu style, but with more expression and room to breathe. Wu style tends to be done painfully small. So I definitely found what I saw to be refreshingly clean and sober looking.
What I saw here was basically more or less exactly what I expected old Yang style to look like. You just never know these things exist until you stumble across them. If you showed this to me, and asked me to guess which school of Tai Chi it looked like it belonged to, old fashioned Yang style or old fashioned Wu style is what I would have guessed.
Regardless of the school, most of the "essential" techniques in the Taijiquan system occur in the first section of the long form. Everything after that is either a variation with a name change, a direct repetition, or a move that helps flesh out the system, but is otherwise non-essential. So having an abbreviated set of "just the essentials" and calling it "the original system" is a bit of a stretch, but the 1st section is more or less the nucleus of the style, so it kinda makes sense in an overbearingly grandiose sort of way.
All the same, "13 original postures" is a cursed phrase, born of half-truth and stinking of same double-speak that Wudang Tai Chi was born of. Half truths are only good for misleading.
Call the set what it is, Yang Chengfu Old Style short set. That's plenty interesting in of itself. Just don't call it original, and don't call it 13. Those are usually red herrings and there are too many red flags and pitfalls with that notion and phrasing.