i think the lame puns make it feel even more like conversation with a friend, he kind of leans into the hackiness, it's almost like you can tell he says them ironically.
Yeah I find him calling everything Gay funny. Not cause I think it’s edgy, I think it’s because I find it so clearly ridiculous in an ironic way. Feels like OP is more offended by it to see it as irony
Yeah ngl I was enjoying the video until the loui ck part and that part at the end like when ur making a comedy video you shouldn’t suddenly pause and get all somber just to pick up the funny man voice again in 15 seconds he’s doing exactly what he criticized the other comedians of. I agree with the other guy I think he’s just offended and trying to make a critical point based off all that. Everything he said before was right and him calling stuff gay only supports that it’s not lazy that’s his personal. Like you said it feel like your talking to a broski at a bar but guess what that’s how broskis at bars talk.
@@joewarhammer 18:51 As a woman, this "line in the sand" against Louis C.K. seems preformative, ridiculous. and misguided. Clearly, anyone who's THAT outraged must not have a clear understanding of all the elements at play that kept CK out of work WAY too long. If he DID a crime, he's done the time- let it go. He's learned his lesson, So glad he's back.
The thing I love about Shane's performance style is that he constantly seems like he's checking in with the audience to make sure they are having as much fun as he is, and he'll actually comment on it in the moment. It's so different than most comedians who just power through whatever prepared stuff they have. Shane comes off feeling more like a buddy you're hanging out with who wants to make sure you're laughing just as hard as he is, and that's super endearing.
I watched his SNL monologue live with a handful of people that had never seen him. A took them a second to get him, but they were cracking up, especially at his borderline awkward interactions with the audience
Totally agree, he really connects with the audience. Joe List is another guy that excels at doing this, he has jokes that don’t really hit even in his specials, but he calls out the silence and gets the laugh and it makes the bit even better when he gets a little fake frustrated.
It gives him a warmness that is so endearing! Especially when it's in stark contrast to most ever other comic that wants to play 'cool' to keep their _authority_ as a person deserving of the mic and stage.
@@michaelnelson300He didn’t, and both the video creator and OP of this comment are just assuming it was a pun, when it clearly wasn’t. “That’s rough” is an extremely common phrase in American English.
Exactly, the objective is to get a laugh. And when you can tell someone is trying it ruins the magic. I’d say the closest comedian to Gillis is bill burr, both on and off the stage he feels like the same guy. And what’s so fun about it is the improv feel that they give off. Whether bill is shitting on someone in a funny way or Gillis is talking about how much of a he was a loser in his early years
Duuuude, your wrong, the fact that Gillis said dogs with night goggles and a robot were the ones that took Osama out was the joke. “The literal paw patrol” was a tag line. Plus the joke was insanely hilarious.
@@cpdbutler 18:51 As a woman, this "line in the sand" against Louis C.K. seems preformative, ridiculous. and misguided. Clearly, anyone who's THAT outraged must not have a clear understanding of all the elements at play that kept CK out of work WAY too long. If he DID a crime, he's done the time- let it go. He's learned his lesson, So glad he's back.
@@icu3869 misguided? why? you just don't agree. he did shitty stuff, and he tried to lie about it. my opinion of him has changed since finding out about that. him losing work because of it, or for how long, is irrelevant to that. "as a woman" lol
Luis C.K. was never charged with any misconduct. There were no legal preceedings and only a one-sided story ever came out about it until Luis' special when he addressed it. Luis is by far the best stand up of our generation. Shane may be able to surpass him, but for now Luis is King
A one sided story from 5 different women. *womp womp* The guy is one of the greatest comics ever but a simple google search can help you get your facts straight broski
@@sirespThat’s not what “one-sided story” means. You can have five one-sided stories. That’s not a contradiction. One-sided just means two people were involved in something and you’ve only heard the account of one of those two people. That can happen five times. Womp womp yourself.
@@siresp And every single of of those women said it was consensual - he asked permission first and even asked again to be sure. He did everything by the book, exactly how we've been repeatedly told we're supposed to do it. The 'power imbalance' thing is a post-hoc absurdity that makes no sense, because this adds another requirement - that you can only ever sleep with someone who has the same 'power' as you do, because people with less 'power' have no agency or free will, which is ridiculous.
@@paulw5039 Exactly. “Power” differentials exist everywhere, all the time. The important point is whether a consenting adult agrees to the request or is forced into it against their will. If a grown adult decides to do something for a more “powerful” person in the hopes that it will net them something in return, that is a perfectly valid decision that they are making as a grown adult of sound mind. The fact that people may find it distasteful to make the request in the first place does not in itself make the request, or the fulfillment of the request, illegal or immoral.
Right? Here I was thinking I was enjoying a great video, about a great guy, expertly created and edited by a great man, and then it turns out it was a lady this whole time. It's like Bruce Gender all over again.
@@noahsewell9615 you said that, not me. However, Louis and Weinstein committed nearly the same crime, on differing scales. Guy above me explains it best. If you can’t wrap your head around his comment you’re a creep
The "lazy" stuff is really stuff he put in there for the Dawgs. The MSSP crowd is out here like "no you did not put that stupid ass pun from the pod in there!" Remembering the guys that kept you floating when the world was trying to sink you isn't lazy IMO even if objectively in a vacuum it may seem like it.
My impression of Shane is the ultimate bro. He comes off as the guy you would want to have some drinks with because he makes the crew laugh. He's the dude in the locker room cracking up the team before the coach rips you to shreds. His chemistry with Matt (who I kinda think has genius level IQ) is admirable for male friendships. He makes me laugh my ass off. I'm really happy he's successful.
If I'm not mistaken, I've heard Gillis on a podcast say that the ' I can see everyone not enjoying it' was part of the bit. For reference, he was talking about the news articles written about him and how they claimed he even knew he was bombing, and used that moment for reference.
yeah matt had a solo podcast after the snl ep and said that him saying that people were unhappy was his schtick. It's kind of obvious when you've watched enough of him.
Saw Shanes live before the special was released and I was surprised to realize that it was obviously the same act, but exactly, to a tea… which means nothing was unintentional, it was made to seem like it was but truly so tight of an act, movement, punchlines, cadence, everything.
It’s really unfortunate that you don’t want to talk about Louis. I can understand why you feel that way towards him, and I’m sure you’ve actually read what happened, but I genuinely find his apology to be honest. He didn’t have ill intent, and what he did was not even close to being so reprehensible that you shouldn’t be able to enjoy or talk about his work. I love your videos, and it’s incredibly unfortunate that you most likely won’t be talking about Louis anytime soon, especially since he’s undoubtedly my favorite.
Asking for sexual favors when the power dynamic is such that the 2 women were asking Louis for help trying to produce a script is not a great look but at least he asked for permission. However, that is not where it ended, he then threatened to end their careers if they ever talked about what happened, that is the behavior of an abuser. Maybe I am remembering incorrectly but that is my recollection of the incident.
Louis lost millions because he dared ask consent to coworkers and masturbated on the phone. He is a freak, but an abuser he is not. Dont go with the weird lies that happened after the accusation and go read the accusation yourself -.- Louis deserved to be criticized for what he did. It wasn't good, but he is no monster and paid his due in my book. Let the man be a great comic.
@@a2thewhy05 Yes, those he asked for concent first. They said yes. They might have felt pressure, but he wasn't just whipping his dick out. He was never blocking the door. Go read the accusations, they said themselves all of that. They said they giggle while it happened and LATER thought it was fucked up. In the moment they didnt felt in danger.
@@w_stew8912 they weren't in a position where they could freely say no and know there would be no repercussions. The power imbalance makes their consent questionable.
@@SnowCrashed1 at the time he wasn't that powerful at all. He was a comedy writer with more experience than them, but he wasn't the Louis that had an insanely popular show on fx and was doing the garden regularly.
But but "ABUSE" lol Good God. This BS putting him even remotely near the level of Weinstein is insane. Absolute knobs. He messed up... a little. Barely. I'm more annoyed Louis equated orange man with mustache man, which is just as insane. But the man is talented and only slightly crappy--like all of us(crappy, not talented).
@@MonstyliciousWell Trump isn’t genocidal like Hitler was but Trump is already an attempted (and failed) authoritarian. The comparison isn’t crazy. Maybe Mussolini is a more fair comparison though.
You know he was literally president for 4 years right? During a period of unprecedented peace and prosperity... Right? Like this isn't "in theory" ... This happened. He was already president. Stop watching CNN, go outside, and start thinking for yourself. Stop parroting talking points of millionaire politicians and media talking heads who are getting rich on you just mindlessly repeating whatever they're saying
All throughout highschool and well into adulthood, I noticed people becoming obsessed things weren't that great just because they're popular. Shane Gillis is one of those things
Shane saying things like "i don't know about this next joke" or saying "look i don't have any material that can be on tv" it's all written. sorry if im ruining the sauce for some of you but Shane being able to make things feel so improvised proves how good of a writer he is, like when he's asking the crowd to suggest different army's then saying ways they'd be more intimidating if they were gay. all of its written i guarantee you any army you could think of yelling out shane would of had a joke written about them, and oh whats that you yelled out one he missed? He had a joke for that situation to. Shanes a great writer thats how he makes this stuff feel like it does on stage. he's written the jokes in the way that shows us how his brain thinks. its not just Shane's talent, or shanes delivery that makes him great its Shanes writing.
@@_Xds_ just spent all day at blue whale comedy festival it's 3 AM and I just ate at waffle House with Casey Rocket. Im literally a stand up comedian so yeah I guess you could say I'm an expert.
Shane is undeniably funny. His stand up, his podcasts, his youtube skits and his tv show. His "that's gay" catch phrase, though it is politically incorrect and harsh on a minority, his crowds are mainly men and they have all grown up with that word scaring them and threatening their status in their peer groups. it is loaded with discomfort, and discomfort is where comedians play.
Seems weird to give such a forced explanation about why you're talking about one of the greatest living comedians who owned what he did which wasn't nearly as bad as it was painted to be at the time. He seems like an example of how to take the criticism and find a pathway to redemption.
@@Walrus286well I’d say he definitely shoulda thought how much control and pressure he had / could give off as the “boss” but he acknowledged that and that’s where it should’ve ended for me like it was just a clear mistake and miscommunication problem to apologize for if that
Thanks for this. I'm a comedian, not all that big of a Shane Stan, but you're describing what I want to do. Having fun telling a joke, that's why it works.
This dive into Gillis' style is great and all, but can we talk about this man`s immaculate taste in music? I mean Ethiopiques Vol 4 AND section.80 in the SAME VIDEO?
What abuse, how did Louie ck. Even get in trouble for asking for consent and not even touching the girls. There was no stories of any kind of consequences for saying no
This just isn't true! His manager threatened two of the women's careers for talking about it, and one of them had just got a big break working on The Chris Rock Show where he had the power to fire her. How did all of you get so sure about something you never bothered to look into? Just, unquestioning devotion to your hero, believing whatever he or his friends said? I used to love Louie too, then I learned the facts and realized, he let power and fame mess him up, and he hurt people.
@@liferadous Goodman and wolov had their big break at aspen comedy festival, it was after that they went to his hotel and he asked to masturbate in front of them and they said yes. They said they worried if they talked about it too openly it could get back to his manager who had the power to damage their careers, not that he ever made any. Both of them said no actual threat was ever made. The Chris rock show employee was anonymous, she also gave consent. Never said she was threatened. Women who said that he asked them and they said no… or said “you have a daughter and a wife! No im Not ok with you jerking off in front of me!” There not even an allegation of there being any consequences for saying no. One told the producers Cortney cox and “Dewey Riley” about what happened Who were rightfully on her side …. Why don’t you tell me how that one played out since you are so well read on the subject. I know the article you basing your argument off and you even got that wrong. Read more that one article before you tell people they need to look deeper. I understand that being a person with the stature and power of Louis ck Should not even request that kind of thing from someone working below him on the same production. It’s a mistake that he paid consequences for, it affected his career not theirs., it’s not a crime. Plus he learned his lesson and started jerking off in front of established female comedians that laughed and roasted his ass while he did it
Gillis, Norman, Soder, Oakerson, and Von are leaders and pioneers in a new era of comedy: bro comedy. They make everyone feel like they're one of the bros just hanging out. It's quite literally inclusive comedy. What a time we're in.
I was born in 87, Dave is my goat. But Shane is 100% leader of the new school. Anyone that just knows Shane from stand up please youtube mssp. Matt and shane bounce off eachother so well its hilarious
The way Shane performs is NOT perfect, but that's part of the appeal. The natural, genuine nature of his speech and delivery is refreshing. It definitely is like hanging out with a friend in a way instead of seeing someone play a character, which I really enjoy. Very well done. Subbed.
He's definitely influenced by norm to some extent. He also does that thing norm did where he pretends to be a really simple dumb guy when he's secretly much more intelligent. I also love that norm reached out when he was being canceled and fired from snl with a private heartfelt message of support and encouragement.
What I love about Shane is he uses this persona of "dumb guy" to create a certain amount of tension between tackling a topic in good faith and having a stupid, oversimplified take that gets a laugh. Any time he's vastly oversimplifying something, it's with the promise that he's not mocking the thing itself, but his own naivete about it. Sometimes he'll reel you in with a stupid take, let you sit with that for a bit, and then surprise you by flipping it on its head so the stupid take IS the butt of the joke. I think that's why him pointing things out and saying "it would be funny" works so well. Like there's a subtle subjectivity to everything that invites you in by saying "it's ok to laugh if you don't agree, I know it's dumb, you can laugh at me." But also under all of that, he's disguising a really clever eye for observation. When he's summarizing something, like an event or a video or whatever, it's always laser accurate. Much hackier comedians love to talk about things or places or people where they treat their own shitty uninformed observations as truth, as the informational foundation of the joke, and the punchline is predicated on that without any awareness for the absurdity of their premise, and anyone in the audience familiar with that thing will be like "well that's not correct," making the punchlines eyeroll-worthy at best. It's only funny to people who also don't know anything about it. But even in his own folksy way, Shane has a really keen eye that comes through when he's setting up the foundation for a joke. Like I will forever love his story about the George Washington's slave quarters. While he's recounting the place itself, he's describing it completely accurately, and the joke is entirely about his emotional journey, taking you from horrified to downright nationalistic, then back to horrified. His innocence as he navigates the museum IS the joke, and he takes you along for that ride with him, inviting you to be naive with him with the promise that he will end up being the butt of the joke.
Shane Gillis is a deconstructed comedian. In an age where nothing is real, ideas on X, people on Instagram, or articles on media outlets; all we want is a real, genuine guy saying funny shit
That's a lot of words to say he's a average funny dude that found his niche in being relatable to his audience by being himself. Which is why hes the fuckn man!
I think Shane’s main way to stay funny and keep being funny is not letting the fame get to his head unlike other comedians have just keep hanging out with the boys and things will take care of themselves
The inside joke thing is so true, being Australian i knew the kangaroo video so i laughed knowing what i was laughing about but the monkey bars video i had never seen and i laughed anyway because of how he told it i felt like id seen it lol
Not that their comic styles are the same, but Shane Gillis fills that Louis CK void for me in the mainstream. Just a self-deprecating schlub in a t shirt and jeans who delivers his jokes like he's sat next to you at a bar just riffing. It comes off so natural.
Louis asked grown women if they would consent to him having a shuffle - the adult women, who had already agreed to go back to Louis' room, all said yes. The adult women hoped this would advance their career - something Louis never said or implied. Since Louis was known for doing this since the turn of the century, when he had very, very little 'Star Power' it would be unfair to suggest Louis was abusing his position. He is simply an adult man who had a kink, who always asked for consent - and only asked adult women.
This just isn't true. Only two women agreed to meet him in his hotel room, together, believing it was for professional purposes. Two women were approached at their workplaces, where he was powerful. (If you go to your subordinate at work and ask if you can jack off in front of them, you will be fired, with good reason.) One got ambushed over the phone. Those are just the five originally brought up in the New York Times expose. NONE said they agreed because they thought it was a quid pro quo for their careers. More have come out since and shared in the documentary. You are repeating LIES manufactured as part of an expensive PR firm's spin package for a millionaire who does not care about you. You're unjustly slandering these women who got violated by their hero and spent years being too scared to say anything. I used to like Louie, too. I changed my mind based on new evidence. Are you a person who pays attention to facts and evidence? Because you're not acting like one right now.
@@liferadous Violated by their hero - there you go comparing women to children. He asked - they consented. If women want equality, then they should live by the same rules as men. Not a single man would complain if a woman asked if she could rub one out in front of them. Stop taking away their agency. Stop treating them like infants.
My favorite comedians are anthony jeselnik, louis ck, shane gillis. These guys calm and really great at their styles. I love chapelle but I do not like his style but still he is a legend of the game.
This is one of the best comedy analysis videos I’ve seen in a while. I’ve definitely been turned off by stand off since the death of King Norm. Feels like stand up has been a horrifying jumble of simply unfunny people, self-congratulatory douchebags, and pseudo-intellectuals who think they can revolutionize the concept. Shane is certainly a breath of fresh air and this video does a great job of explaining his comedy. Really hope he does another Netflix special.
Also, in your Shane to Louis part where he says "he derails his SNL monologue when the jokes aren't landing." I had the same impression, but if you listen to the following mssp, he says he knew the crowd and it was a good way to win the audience. He doesn't come off calculated, which is good, but he knows what he's doing.
I enjoy how you articulate and gove shape to ideas that floatnhalf-formed through my head. The specificity helps so much I also appreciate you taking the time to make quality stuff instead of flooding timeline!
He's a natural. He tells jokes as if he were telling them to his buddies, not an audience of strangers. He also looks in a way that's funny and kinda endearing (he himself likened his appearance to a person with Down syndrome).
So was Bill Cosby, incredibly skilled and influential, but you don't see people replaying his shit all the time, because they don't wanna look at his stupid face after what he's done. (And no, what Louie did isn't as bad as Cosby. Most shitty things people do aren't as bad as Cosby. That does not make it okay or no big deal.)
Shane Gillis's act works because he makes it feel like a conversation between friends. From the outset, he tells a joke that makes it seem like a conversation between friends, and he does this by speaking as if it's a conversation between friends. This makes this audience feel like it's a conversation between friends, and creates a wonderful "conversation between friends" vibe where instead of a standup routine, it's a conversation between friends. The second thing he does is continue to tell jokes in a way that makes it seem like a conversation between friends. Furthermore,
This whole video is a really fun and insightful analysis. Instant sub, I am definitely going to need to hear more of this mans insights on the comedy world. 15:57 killed me
@@0Kenniko Sure, but it goes against the popular opinion of the community. If you consider some ppl who have been cancelled to be redeemed or unfairly treated, Louie is at the top of that list to most people.
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hello shane reading the comments
He can’t read
I hope he watches this alll the way to the end
Come to Canada
I mean Brazil
What up Dawg!
Him talking down on Ck made Shane leave actually
Shane is one of the only comedians that can make just calling something gay actually funny
It's the only part of his act that feels really lazy and childish. He's so much better than doing what 10 year olds do.
CumTown energy
@fraggle200 well that's the point of it I suppose
@@fraggle200that’s what it’s supposed to be. Just because you don’t get it doesn’t mean it isn’t funny
@@mysticdustz7115 i'd get that if it was in just 1 special but it's a recurring thing. It's boring now.
i think the lame puns make it feel even more like conversation with a friend, he kind of leans into the hackiness, it's almost like you can tell he says them ironically.
Yeah I find him calling everything Gay funny. Not cause I think it’s edgy, I think it’s because I find it so clearly ridiculous in an ironic way. Feels like OP is more offended by it to see it as irony
Yeah ngl I was enjoying the video until the loui ck part and that part at the end like when ur making a comedy video you shouldn’t suddenly pause and get all somber just to pick up the funny man voice again in 15 seconds he’s doing exactly what he criticized the other comedians of. I agree with the other guy I think he’s just offended and trying to make a critical point based off all that. Everything he said before was right and him calling stuff gay only supports that it’s not lazy that’s his personal. Like you said it feel like your talking to a broski at a bar but guess what that’s how broskis at bars talk.
@@joewarhammer 18:51 As a woman, this "line in the sand" against Louis C.K. seems preformative, ridiculous. and misguided. Clearly, anyone who's THAT outraged must not have a clear understanding of all the elements at play that kept CK out of work WAY too long. If he DID a crime, he's done the time- let it go. He's learned his lesson, So glad he's back.
dude are you autistic
The thing I love about Shane's performance style is that he constantly seems like he's checking in with the audience to make sure they are having as much fun as he is, and he'll actually comment on it in the moment. It's so different than most comedians who just power through whatever prepared stuff they have. Shane comes off feeling more like a buddy you're hanging out with who wants to make sure you're laughing just as hard as he is, and that's super endearing.
🎉absolutely 🎉😂😊
I watched his SNL monologue live with a handful of people that had never seen him. A took them a second to get him, but they were cracking up, especially at his borderline awkward interactions with the audience
Totally agree, he really connects with the audience. Joe List is another guy that excels at doing this, he has jokes that don’t really hit even in his specials, but he calls out the silence and gets the laugh and it makes the bit even better when he gets a little fake frustrated.
It gives him a warmness that is so endearing! Especially when it's in stark contrast to most ever other comic that wants to play 'cool' to keep their _authority_ as a person deserving of the mic and stage.
Amen! Preach!
if you didn't laugh at “that's ruff” or his reaction to it,
you don't have a soul.
I’ve seen it a couple times and I still don’t know if he did it on purpose or not
@@michaelnelson300He didn’t, and both the video creator and OP of this comment are just assuming it was a pun, when it clearly wasn’t. “That’s rough” is an extremely common phrase in American English.
did you notice how he ends this video on one
29:54
Shane, if you stop cutting corners and hold yourself to a higher standard, some dude in his bedroom will consider you a great comedian.
Best comment on the video
Exactly, the objective is to get a laugh. And when you can tell someone is trying it ruins the magic.
I’d say the closest comedian to Gillis is bill burr, both on and off the stage he feels like the same guy. And what’s so fun about it is the improv feel that they give off. Whether bill is shitting on someone in a funny way or Gillis is talking about how much of a he was a loser in his early years
A lot of people already do myself included
Exactly, this guy is the definition of an armchair comedian
Analysing comedy has become mainstream and its pathetic
We all have that one friend that's made us laugh more than any comic. Gillis has found a way to turn that type of humor into stand-up form.
thats always the best humor
Excatly what I thought! Hes just a relly likable dude.
Damn I never looked at it like that but I couldn't agree with you more.
Duuuude, your wrong, the fact that Gillis said dogs with night goggles and a robot were the ones that took Osama out was the joke. “The literal paw patrol” was a tag line.
Plus the joke was insanely hilarious.
Ya this guy is off his rocker.
You’re*
The paw patrol bit is my favorite of his jokes 😂😂😂❤❤
Yeah what this guy was hating on Gillis for is what makes him hilarious.
summary of this video:
its like hes just some guy telling jokes at a bar, rather than some super-polished comedian (x100)
Plus some brownie points for s#itting on louis
@@rishimish8917He's gotta maintain his UK Social Score.
@@rishimish8917 or it's just his honest opinion of CK. many people dislike sexual harassment fyi
@@cpdbutler 18:51 As a woman, this "line in the sand" against Louis C.K. seems preformative, ridiculous. and misguided. Clearly, anyone who's THAT outraged must not have a clear understanding of all the elements at play that kept CK out of work WAY too long. If he DID a crime, he's done the time- let it go. He's learned his lesson, So glad he's back.
@@icu3869 misguided? why? you just don't agree. he did shitty stuff, and he tried to lie about it. my opinion of him has changed since finding out about that. him losing work because of it, or for how long, is irrelevant to that. "as a woman" lol
I understand Louis CK is one of your heroes, but that’s your “line in the sand”? To quote Shane Gillis, “Don’t be gay”
Loved the Ringo impression
Feigning contrition so that you can pretend to be taking some kind of heroic moral stand, over something that didn't even happen, is gay.
That made me mad. I stopped watching after he said that.
@@Kathy_1991same LMAO
33 min long video on Shane Gillis
Shane Gillis: Louis CK is my inspiration
“Louis CK is where I draw the line”
all hail King Louie
Louis CK is an all time great. No wonder Shane is so funny.
Luis C.K. was never charged with any misconduct. There were no legal preceedings and only a one-sided story ever came out about it until Luis' special when he addressed it.
Luis is by far the best stand up of our generation. Shane may be able to surpass him, but for now Luis is King
A one sided story from 5 different women. *womp womp* The guy is one of the greatest comics ever but a simple google search can help you get your facts straight broski
@@sirespThat’s not what “one-sided story” means. You can have five one-sided stories. That’s not a contradiction. One-sided just means two people were involved in something and you’ve only heard the account of one of those two people. That can happen five times. Womp womp yourself.
@@siresp And every single of of those women said it was consensual - he asked permission first and even asked again to be sure. He did everything by the book, exactly how we've been repeatedly told we're supposed to do it. The 'power imbalance' thing is a post-hoc absurdity that makes no sense, because this adds another requirement - that you can only ever sleep with someone who has the same 'power' as you do, because people with less 'power' have no agency or free will, which is ridiculous.
Someone’s upset
@@paulw5039 Exactly. “Power” differentials exist everywhere, all the time. The important point is whether a consenting adult agrees to the request or is forced into it against their will. If a grown adult decides to do something for a more “powerful” person in the hopes that it will net them something in return, that is a perfectly valid decision that they are making as a grown adult of sound mind. The fact that people may find it distasteful to make the request in the first place does not in itself make the request, or the fulfillment of the request, illegal or immoral.
The Louis C.K. disclaimer derailed the vibe of the entire video.
Exactly
Spot on
100%
Right? Here I was thinking I was enjoying a great video, about a great guy, expertly created and edited by a great man, and then it turns out it was a lady this whole time. It's like Bruce Gender all over again.
Fr and all the shit about the puns....this dudes a wanker
Dude. Chill out on Louie. He has a kink, he asked for permission, the ladies agreed. It happened years ago and he paid a price. Louis CK is fine.
Harvey Weinstein girls agreed too
I don’t think you understand the situation
Edit: we got some groipers in this comment chain
You don't see the cavernous difference between louis ck and harvey weinstein?@unitedleagueofgamers3633
@unitedleagueofgamers3633 yes because Louise and Harvey are definitely on the same level
Abuse of a heavily imbalanced power dynamic is still very strange behavior man
@@noahsewell9615 you said that, not me. However, Louis and Weinstein committed nearly the same crime, on differing scales.
Guy above me explains it best. If you can’t wrap your head around his comment you’re a creep
Anyone who fast forwards through Louis CK is a dingus
This is the comment I was gonna wrote. What a loser
Anyone who fast forwards through with their dingus is Louis CK
@joseraimi this is an amazing comment
@@joseraimiclever
@joseraimi niceeeee. But he's right. Like yeah he fucked up. He got a pretty good punishment I'd say
The "lazy" stuff is really stuff he put in there for the Dawgs.
The MSSP crowd is out here like "no you did not put that stupid ass pun from the pod in there!"
Remembering the guys that kept you floating when the world was trying to sink you isn't lazy IMO even if objectively in a vacuum it may seem like it.
This guy is obviously not a dawg and the fact that he thinks Shane should modify his stand up to fit his own taste in comedy proves it even further
Great point
Breaks my heart see a fan of comedy "canceling" CK.
Fully,
He’s not a fan of comedy. He is just a garbage leech with zero original thought. He is a sjw more then a fan of comedy
Amen
I struggle to throw him into the pile of real bastards but he's definitely lost a lot of respect for the way he handled the situation.
@@Arnogorter He never broke the law and I'm not looking for new friends. Louis Ck is a comedy genius and he makes me lough, that's his only purpose.
My impression of Shane is the ultimate bro. He comes off as the guy you would want to have some drinks with because he makes the crew laugh. He's the dude in the locker room cracking up the team before the coach rips you to shreds. His chemistry with Matt (who I kinda think has genius level IQ) is admirable for male friendships. He makes me laugh my ass off. I'm really happy he's successful.
Great video! I walked in here, I said wow, what a great video
@@zack2thafuture my opponent is gay!
Wow! Great analysis❤
But Louis Ck is not that bad of a guy imo ... no need for that "disclaimer"
I saved this because i thought it was a new youtube special he was releasing. I was confused by the intro
me too, so dissapointed right now.
Why would he release a special on TH-cam at the level he’s at now
Yup same
- The RTards Shane Constantly Jokes About
yeah this sucks.
shane gillis singlehandedly saving bud light from oblivion
If I'm not mistaken, I've heard Gillis on a podcast say that the ' I can see everyone not enjoying it' was part of the bit.
For reference, he was talking about the news articles written about him and how they claimed he even knew he was bombing, and used that moment for reference.
yeah matt had a solo podcast after the snl ep and said that him saying that people were unhappy was his schtick. It's kind of obvious when you've watched enough of him.
Saw Shanes live before the special was released and I was surprised to realize that it was obviously the same act, but exactly, to a tea… which means nothing was unintentional, it was made to seem like it was but truly so tight of an act, movement, punchlines, cadence, everything.
Louis is king
It’s really unfortunate that you don’t want to talk about Louis. I can understand why you feel that way towards him, and I’m sure you’ve actually read what happened, but I genuinely find his apology to be honest. He didn’t have ill intent, and what he did was not even close to being so reprehensible that you shouldn’t be able to enjoy or talk about his work. I love your videos, and it’s incredibly unfortunate that you most likely won’t be talking about Louis anytime soon, especially since he’s undoubtedly my favorite.
Yes. He’s one of the rock solid comedians
Was a pretty good video until the Louise CK section. Virtue Signalling.
Didn’t get to this part yet. What do I need to skip? Louis #1
SEVEN MINUTES jfc
Asking for sexual favors when the power dynamic is such that the 2 women were asking Louis for help trying to produce a script is not a great look but at least he asked for permission. However, that is not where it ended, he then threatened to end their careers if they ever talked about what happened, that is the behavior of an abuser. Maybe I am remembering incorrectly but that is my recollection of the incident.
He’s one of the bros. That’s the best way I can describe it. It’s not a character on stage, he’s just one of the bros
Louis lost millions because he dared ask consent to coworkers and masturbated on the phone. He is a freak, but an abuser he is not. Dont go with the weird lies that happened after the accusation and go read the accusation yourself -.-
Louis deserved to be criticized for what he did. It wasn't good, but he is no monster and paid his due in my book. Let the man be a great comic.
Wasn't on the phone . It was in front of them in his room
@@a2thewhy05 Yes, those he asked for concent first. They said yes. They might have felt pressure, but he wasn't just whipping his dick out. He was never blocking the door. Go read the accusations, they said themselves all of that. They said they giggle while it happened and LATER thought it was fucked up. In the moment they didnt felt in danger.
@@a2thewhy05he still asked for permission. It’s a kink. A weird kink but he paid his dues for it.
@@w_stew8912 they weren't in a position where they could freely say no and know there would be no repercussions. The power imbalance makes their consent questionable.
@@SnowCrashed1 at the time he wasn't that powerful at all. He was a comedy writer with more experience than them, but he wasn't the Louis that had an insanely popular show on fx and was doing the garden regularly.
The puns are so hilarious. Nothing wrong with a little momentary low effort humor
Ending a video on a same line that you criticized earlier, is ruff.
I like the simplicity of calling something gay. Maybe I won’t in 10 years. But that shit is funny.
Your line in the sand is Louis CK? 🙄
But but "ABUSE" lol
Good God. This BS putting him even remotely near the level of Weinstein is insane. Absolute knobs.
He messed up... a little. Barely. I'm more annoyed Louis equated orange man with mustache man, which is just as insane. But the man is talented and only slightly crappy--like all of us(crappy, not talented).
@@Monstylicioustfw you get permission to do something and then women change their mind after the fact
@@MonstyliciousWell Trump isn’t genocidal like Hitler was but Trump is already an attempted (and failed) authoritarian. The comparison isn’t crazy. Maybe Mussolini is a more fair comparison though.
@@motorhead48067when did he attempt to be an authoritarian leader?
You know he was literally president for 4 years right? During a period of unprecedented peace and prosperity... Right? Like this isn't "in theory" ... This happened. He was already president.
Stop watching CNN, go outside, and start thinking for yourself. Stop parroting talking points of millionaire politicians and media talking heads who are getting rich on you just mindlessly repeating whatever they're saying
All throughout highschool and well into adulthood, I noticed people becoming obsessed things weren't that great just because they're popular. Shane Gillis is one of those things
No he is better that’s why
Shane saying things like "i don't know about this next joke" or saying "look i don't have any material that can be on tv" it's all written. sorry if im ruining the sauce for some of you but Shane being able to make things feel so improvised proves how good of a writer he is, like when he's asking the crowd to suggest different army's then saying ways they'd be more intimidating if they were gay. all of its written i guarantee you any army you could think of yelling out shane would of had a joke written about them, and oh whats that you yelled out one he missed? He had a joke for that situation to. Shanes a great writer thats how he makes this stuff feel like it does on stage. he's written the jokes in the way that shows us how his brain thinks. its not just Shane's talent, or shanes delivery that makes him great its Shanes writing.
And ur the expert and know for certain whether or not it was improvised beacuse ?? 😂 🤡
@@_Xds_ just spent all day at blue whale comedy festival it's 3 AM and I just ate at waffle House with Casey Rocket. Im literally a stand up comedian so yeah I guess you could say I'm an expert.
This comedy breakdown was so brilliant it made me love Shane and miss Norm even more.....bravo!
This gay around 29:00.
Shane is undeniably funny. His stand up, his podcasts, his youtube skits and his tv show. His "that's gay" catch phrase, though it is politically incorrect and harsh on a minority, his crowds are mainly men and they have all grown up with that word scaring them and threatening their status in their peer groups. it is loaded with discomfort, and discomfort is where comedians play.
30:10 "that's ruff" is very funny idc what anyone says
His stand up is legit just like the pod. That’s why it works so well.
Seems weird to give such a forced explanation about why you're talking about one of the greatest living comedians who owned what he did which wasn't nearly as bad as it was painted to be at the time. He seems like an example of how to take the criticism and find a pathway to redemption.
King Louie 2024
He did absolutely nothing wrong. He asked, and other consenting adults said yes.
@@Walrus286well I’d say he definitely shoulda thought how much control and pressure he had / could give off as the “boss” but he acknowledged that and that’s where it should’ve ended for me like it was just a clear mistake and miscommunication problem to apologize for if that
bruh comon u know gillis surrounds himself with rebulican racist anti woke assholes
Also he literally did nothing wrong.
Thanks for this. I'm a comedian, not all that big of a Shane Stan, but you're describing what I want to do. Having fun telling a joke, that's why it works.
“If you’re a simpleton, fast forward this part as if were talking about the dark lord Voldemort”
That really threw off the whole vid for me, such an odd moment with the preemptive apology as if he’s actually committing a serious offense
This dive into Gillis' style is great and all, but can we talk about this man`s immaculate taste in music? I mean Ethiopiques Vol 4 AND section.80 in the SAME VIDEO?
I couldn’t believe it when I heard Tezeta 😹
What abuse, how did Louie ck. Even get in trouble for asking for consent and not even touching the girls. There was no stories of any kind of consequences for saying no
This just isn't true! His manager threatened two of the women's careers for talking about it, and one of them had just got a big break working on The Chris Rock Show where he had the power to fire her. How did all of you get so sure about something you never bothered to look into? Just, unquestioning devotion to your hero, believing whatever he or his friends said? I used to love Louie too, then I learned the facts and realized, he let power and fame mess him up, and he hurt people.
@@liferadous Goodman and wolov had their big break at aspen comedy festival, it was after that they went to his hotel and he asked to masturbate in front of them and they said yes. They said they worried if they talked about it too openly it could get back to his manager who had the power to damage their careers, not that he ever made any. Both of them said no actual threat was ever made. The Chris rock show employee was anonymous, she also gave consent. Never said she was threatened. Women who said that he asked them and they said no… or said “you have a daughter and a wife! No im
Not ok with you jerking off in front of me!” There not even an allegation of there being any consequences for saying no. One told the producers Cortney cox and “Dewey Riley” about what happened Who were rightfully on her side …. Why don’t you tell me how that one played out since you are so well read on the subject. I know the article you basing your argument off and you even got that wrong. Read more that one article before you tell people they need to look deeper. I understand that being a person with the stature and power of Louis ck Should not even request that kind of thing from someone working below him on the same production. It’s a mistake that he paid consequences for, it affected his career not theirs., it’s not a crime. Plus he learned his lesson and started jerking off in front of established female comedians that laughed and roasted his ass while he did it
He’s a naturally hilarious dude, he can just talk about anything and it’s funny.
This video is really gay
Instructions unclear. Vid is now in my anus.
comedy for autists
Hella
Hmm
Gay 🤤
I saw Gillis at the Comedy Cellar in NY in 2021 and I knew he was different. Just a few years later he's on top of the industry.
hearing folks from across the pond reference the Rogan-sphere is a real treat because i feel like a bit of a snob snubbing them all the time. cheers.
Gillis had a style that just makes him likable, feels like I could hang with him and it wouldn’t be awkward.
I too think it's time to forgive Louis
No
@@thelordkk512I can see it clearly now.. all ppl with anime pfp are cunts.. ez
Most people already have.
@@thelordkk512 Judge not lest ye cast he fist stone.
there's nothing to forgive. he didn't do anything wrong.
I feel like Shane is literally a dude who just enjoys having fun, I don’t think there’s that much thought behind it beside the bits themselves
Gillis, Norman, Soder, Oakerson, and Von are leaders and pioneers in a new era of comedy: bro comedy. They make everyone feel like they're one of the bros just hanging out. It's quite literally inclusive comedy. What a time we're in.
Don't always agree with everything you say, but I have to respect the craftmanship of the video, really appreciate you trying to diversify your style.
I was born in 87, Dave is my goat. But Shane is 100% leader of the new school. Anyone that just knows Shane from stand up please youtube mssp. Matt and shane bounce off eachother so well its hilarious
This level of analysis for some dude making jokes is crazy
The way Shane performs is NOT perfect, but that's part of the appeal. The natural, genuine nature of his speech and delivery is refreshing. It definitely is like hanging out with a friend in a way instead of seeing someone play a character, which I really enjoy. Very well done. Subbed.
Louis is goated
Effort on this video is unprecedented. Smart takes showing a deep understanding of the details of standup comedy
thats ruff was awesome stop hating my guy 😭
Shane is the best comic IN MY OPINION. I listen to mssp while I'm at work and I have to stop myself from howling sometimes
norm said "that's funny, right?" a lot. he reminds me of norm, my favorite comedian. i think he's going to get to norms level.
He's definitely influenced by norm to some extent. He also does that thing norm did where he pretends to be a really simple dumb guy when he's secretly much more intelligent. I also love that norm reached out when he was being canceled and fired from snl with a private heartfelt message of support and encouragement.
bro has great taste in music, his appreciation of high level artistry cleary does translate
Music choices are on point. Tribes best instrumentals and mulatu astatke at the end
Thank you
What I love about Shane is he uses this persona of "dumb guy" to create a certain amount of tension between tackling a topic in good faith and having a stupid, oversimplified take that gets a laugh. Any time he's vastly oversimplifying something, it's with the promise that he's not mocking the thing itself, but his own naivete about it. Sometimes he'll reel you in with a stupid take, let you sit with that for a bit, and then surprise you by flipping it on its head so the stupid take IS the butt of the joke. I think that's why him pointing things out and saying "it would be funny" works so well. Like there's a subtle subjectivity to everything that invites you in by saying "it's ok to laugh if you don't agree, I know it's dumb, you can laugh at me."
But also under all of that, he's disguising a really clever eye for observation. When he's summarizing something, like an event or a video or whatever, it's always laser accurate. Much hackier comedians love to talk about things or places or people where they treat their own shitty uninformed observations as truth, as the informational foundation of the joke, and the punchline is predicated on that without any awareness for the absurdity of their premise, and anyone in the audience familiar with that thing will be like "well that's not correct," making the punchlines eyeroll-worthy at best. It's only funny to people who also don't know anything about it. But even in his own folksy way, Shane has a really keen eye that comes through when he's setting up the foundation for a joke. Like I will forever love his story about the George Washington's slave quarters. While he's recounting the place itself, he's describing it completely accurately, and the joke is entirely about his emotional journey, taking you from horrified to downright nationalistic, then back to horrified. His innocence as he navigates the museum IS the joke, and he takes you along for that ride with him, inviting you to be naive with him with the promise that he will end up being the butt of the joke.
Hi Shane, we love you!
Shane Gillis is a deconstructed comedian. In an age where nothing is real, ideas on X, people on Instagram, or articles on media outlets; all we want is a real, genuine guy saying funny shit
Facts, good way to put it.
That's a lot of words to say he's a average funny dude that found his niche in being relatable to his audience by being himself. Which is why hes the fuckn man!
I think Shane’s main way to stay funny and keep being funny is not letting the fame get to his head unlike other comedians have just keep hanging out with the boys and things will take care of themselves
The inside joke thing is so true, being Australian i knew the kangaroo video so i laughed knowing what i was laughing about but the monkey bars video i had never seen and i laughed anyway because of how he told it i felt like id seen it lol
Not that their comic styles are the same, but Shane Gillis fills that Louis CK void for me in the mainstream. Just a self-deprecating schlub in a t shirt and jeans who delivers his jokes like he's sat next to you at a bar just riffing. It comes off so natural.
Louis asked grown women if they would consent to him having a shuffle - the adult women, who had already agreed to go back to Louis' room, all said yes.
The adult women hoped this would advance their career - something Louis never said or implied.
Since Louis was known for doing this since the turn of the century, when he had very, very little 'Star Power' it would be unfair to suggest Louis was abusing his position.
He is simply an adult man who had a kink, who always asked for consent - and only asked adult women.
This just isn't true. Only two women agreed to meet him in his hotel room, together, believing it was for professional purposes. Two women were approached at their workplaces, where he was powerful. (If you go to your subordinate at work and ask if you can jack off in front of them, you will be fired, with good reason.) One got ambushed over the phone.
Those are just the five originally brought up in the New York Times expose. NONE said they agreed because they thought it was a quid pro quo for their careers. More have come out since and shared in the documentary. You are repeating LIES manufactured as part of an expensive PR firm's spin package for a millionaire who does not care about you. You're unjustly slandering these women who got violated by their hero and spent years being too scared to say anything.
I used to like Louie, too. I changed my mind based on new evidence. Are you a person who pays attention to facts and evidence? Because you're not acting like one right now.
@@liferadous Violated by their hero - there you go comparing women to children.
He asked - they consented.
If women want equality, then they should live by the same rules as men. Not a single man would complain if a woman asked if she could rub one out in front of them.
Stop taking away their agency.
Stop treating them like infants.
@@liferadous I often go to hotel bedrooms for professional purposes.
My favorite comedians are anthony jeselnik, louis ck, shane gillis. These guys calm and really great at their styles. I love chapelle but I do not like his style but still he is a legend of the game.
Fantastic video but using the Sing About Me (I'm Dying of Thirst) instrumental as casual background music is absolutely insane man.
This is one of the best comedy analysis videos I’ve seen in a while. I’ve definitely been turned off by stand off since the death of King Norm. Feels like stand up has been a horrifying jumble of simply unfunny people, self-congratulatory douchebags, and pseudo-intellectuals who think they can revolutionize the concept. Shane is certainly a breath of fresh air and this video does a great job of explaining his comedy. Really hope he does another Netflix special.
I heard Bob Dylan and thought my Spotify opened 😂
I had this in my "Watch Later" for a month, because I thought it was just a Shane Gillis special.
I need to hit that bell.
What a beautiful way to end it.
I walked in there and said “wowww what a beautiful way to end it”
Also, in your Shane to Louis part where he says "he derails his SNL monologue when the jokes aren't landing." I had the same impression, but if you listen to the following mssp, he says he knew the crowd and it was a good way to win the audience. He doesn't come off calculated, which is good, but he knows what he's doing.
I enjoy how you articulate and gove shape to ideas that floatnhalf-formed through my head. The specificity helps so much
I also appreciate you taking the time to make quality stuff instead of flooding timeline!
I genuinely think he’s just naturally funny and actually laughing at his own jokes. I think these qualities are much less conscious than you may think
Hi shane, can't wait til you talk about this on MSSP :)
He's a natural. He tells jokes as if he were telling them to his buddies, not an audience of strangers.
He also looks in a way that's funny and kinda endearing (he himself likened his appearance to a person with Down syndrome).
Louis CK is absolutely one of the greatest comedians of all time
So was Bill Cosby, incredibly skilled and influential, but you don't see people replaying his shit all the time, because they don't wanna look at his stupid face after what he's done. (And no, what Louie did isn't as bad as Cosby. Most shitty things people do aren't as bad as Cosby. That does not make it okay or no big deal.)
@@liferadous Yea... Nowhere near the same.
I can just imagine Shane watching this saying “so that’s why I’m funny”
Quality over quantity ❤
Tires, The sketch comedy specials from him and McKeever, the stand-up? He may not be the comedy hero we deserve but he is the one we need.
King Louie went through the wringer and paid his dues, he's still a genius comic and we all need to respect that and move on
Thanks for including the "skip to" part. Louis is top shelf n did nothing wrong
This was phenomenal please do an analysis of Patrice O’Neal ‼️
Shane Gillis's act works because he makes it feel like a conversation between friends. From the outset, he tells a joke that makes it seem like a conversation between friends, and he does this by speaking as if it's a conversation between friends. This makes this audience feel like it's a conversation between friends, and creates a wonderful "conversation between friends" vibe where instead of a standup routine, it's a conversation between friends. The second thing he does is continue to tell jokes in a way that makes it seem like a conversation between friends. Furthermore,
Louis talking down to hecklers is hilarious, idk what you're going on about here. He's the GOAT.
Great analysis as always , this channel is underappreciated gold.
11:51 yo is that Jeff Epstein?😂
Thought i was the only one who saw it
This whole video is a really fun and insightful analysis. Instant sub, I am definitely going to need to hear more of this mans insights on the comedy world. 15:57 killed me
Ok 26:41 is wrong. I love Shane but he will literally call someone a pussy then kick them out.
When
Dude dog warrior is my FAVORITE Gillis joke. It’s perfect. How simple it is makes it perfect
the dance you do to signal your distain for C.K is hilarious.
Good analysis of Shane. He’s trying to be humble and like
-able on stage. It’s endearing.
I think you’re gonna need to unpack and layout exactly why you think Louis C.K. is so bad at some point.
Sexual assault charges not enough for you or?..
@@0Kenniko Sure, but it goes against the popular opinion of the community. If you consider some ppl who have been cancelled to be redeemed or unfairly treated, Louie is at the top of that list to most people.
@r4v4g3r Yeah man, Louis is an incredible comedian. Shane would agree and has with Matt McCusker on the pod.
@@0Kenniko oh shut up
If you paid attention, he really did lay out his reasons why he dislikes Louie and his comedy.
Shane gillis fans try not to get mad at the slightest criticism challenge: Impossible